This video made me fall in love with this camper. We found one a year older so slightly different. But it has EVERYTHING we need for what we wanted to pay!
This caravan is insane. Looks amazingly spacious for a 25. Killer walk through. That microwave is hilarious 😂 . At one point I thought u r about 3" tall. Cheers 🍻
We bought a 2018 25FKS new and going on 5 camping seasons we amazingly haven't had any problem's with the trailer. It tows easy has a great layout and is near perfect for a couple. The only down side we found is the lack of storage space, I did remove the outside fridge which I considered unneeded, and that gives a little extra. But for its size its a great trailer.
Finally a kitchen with counter space! We love to cook and this is the first trailer we've seen that has enough counter space with a great floor plan! Only downside is not being able to get to the bathroom with the slide in, but I could live with that! Thanks for the tour, we enjoy your videos!
We totally hear you. We have a done a few of these front kitchens and they really do hit the mark on counter space. Glad you like our reviews and we hope they help you find the right RV for you. Thanks for watching
I have this model and love it. My wife loves how it is like a mini-apartment with separate rooms. The slide/bathroom issue can be a little annoying but nothing a push of a button can't remedy. We have no problem finding places to park and open the slide while traveling. We'll stop for lunch, to shop, or just take a break and walk the dog. We run the slide out and use the bathroom sometimes, or pick up lunch and eat in the trailer. My wife gets up early and closes the bedroom door so I can sleep in a little. I don't hear anything until I'm ready to get up.
Does size matter? ... Yes it does. Sometimes small is better, sometimes big, and other times it's got to be medium 😁 Thank you for your unique, snob-free, buyer's perspective reviews ... I greatly appreciate it!
Nice floor plan and cabinets. But as you demonstrated in the kitchen it's too tall for us short people. But then it only has a queen size bed for the giants that will use this. LOL
I’ve watched quite a few of your videos over the past couple years. You guys are getting so good at these reviews. Great job! Thanks for putting these together.
Thank you so much. It is nice to know you have been watching us learn and get better at what we love doing. We appreciate you coming back and hope we can keep you educated and entertained into the future. So nice to have you along. Thanks for watching.
I have watched this video so many times. You helped me decide which camper to buy. We got a 2019, so it's not exactly the same kitchen. But, very good camper. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
You guys are really good! I’ve been camping 20 years and you’ve seen things I didn’t think of! I’ll be watching you and I’ll gladly buy you a coffee! I’m searching for a couples camper can’t wait to see what the 2022s have to offer. I’m leaning toward Cougar, Rockwood, grand design. 3/4 ton truck towable. Thank you both for your hard work.
Awww, you are so kind and we thank you. These are all great choices and we will keep looking. We are interested to see what 2022 has to offer as well. It was a challenging year for the RV industry so we think we may see decor changes but not a lot of other big changes. It will give us time to catch up haha. So many to see, so many to show you. We are super excited to get back out there on the road learning and seeing new things. Thanks for your support and hanging out with us.
Glad you liked our review and we are so glad to hear you like your new Flagstaff. We hope you are out having some fun this summer. Thanks for watching.
We have a 2016 version of this trailer. Love it!! Just right for hubby, our Labrador ,and me. Currently looking at a newer version Thanks for the tour.
This is a great trailer. Nice to hear you have liked your's. Let us know what you go with for the new one and what things you like best about it. Thanks for watching.
We hear you as I am only 5' tall but that certainly would not keep us from going with this trailer. It doesn't matter which one you choose there is bound to be something that doesn't fit. We always have a stool and fill cabinets accordingly and continue to have fun. There are waaay taller trailers out there than this so we didn't think it was too bad. But if this one is not for you keep looking we have lots of reviews with different levels of cabinets. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Love the kitchen with the extra windows, will need a step unit to reach storage, slide for extra space & how the bathroom has it’s own seperate entrance from the hallway, & the extra storage under the bed …
Dear Denise and Kory, I wanted you two to be the first to know on You Tube that I am in the process of purchasing a trailer. My choice is kind of surprising to me, but was inspired, in part, by one of your older videos. It is a Grand Design XLS 17MKE and I don’t even care for Murphy beds! I would love to continue to communicate with you guys because I have so many questions going forward? As you know I am one of your avid subscribers/fangirl 😍😂😍 Thanks, ilona + joshua 🦮
OMG! We are soooo excited for you! This is fantastic news. You guys must be jumping up and down. Do you have it yet? We were just at a dealership and were trying to review it but they were selling so quickly we couldn't get our camera on one. We can see why too. That kitchen is so great and we really do like the 2021 style and the size is perfect and you know I like the Murphy beds. Please keep us up to date on things. We want to hear all about it. Do you have a plan for your first trip? Please don't hesitate to ask questions we'd love to help in any way. You can also reach us at doessizematter99@gmail.com and we have a FB page Does Size Matter RV. We are super thankful that you spend your time with us on our channel and we love to talk more. Big Congratulations to you!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE that kitchen 😍!!! I would probably make the dining bench my bed, but, for $43,990 it's too overpriced for not being able to use the tiny bedroom and tiny bathroom. I most likely never would sleep in that tiny, rear and uncomfortable bedroom, it's just too small.
Nice TT, and always, appreciate your education, overview & humor. Hope you two are doing well in BC. I bet you are missing your Beaver that is in the USA.
Glad you liked it and yes we are doing well here in BC and missing the Beaver terribly but stick with us we have something new coming to share with you. Coming soon. Thanks for watching.
I love your videos! I just discovered them a week or so ago, as I have just embarked on an RV search a month ago or so. I have been looking at 5th wheels, particularly Rockwood Ultra Lites, but am binge watching your videos as I work in my office here on my farm in Washington, and this one came up! Very informative, and I love how you two present all of your observations, favorable and unfavorable. I might consider a regular trailer like this; I'm with you...I love the window in front of the kitchen sink! I am wondering how tall you are...I think you identified your height in another video, but I don't recall. I am wondering if I, at six feet tall, could even comfortably work with that microwave! Looks very high! One of the things I wonder about in these videos is the accessibility of the trailer, including the underbelly, to mice. I look at those slide outs, and try to evaluate if critters could enter through the rack and pinion mechanism in the frame. Another observation I have made with the few Rockwoods I've seen, and this trailer has it too: some of the kitchen sinks appear to have an actual, proper outside drain vent, - albeit outside wall mounted, rather than roof mounted as in a typical house - rather than the in-cabinet mechanical "Studor vent" used by the vast majority of RV's. I like this, because the mechanical vents can eventually wear out. In this video, you identified that feature as a light at the forward curbside corner of the trailer (that semi-circular plastic piece, above the storage compartment at 10:12). Looking inside the storage compartment, the kitchen sink's vent pipe - which terminates at that outside opening - is apparent. Keep on with your videos, and thank you so much for your help in navigating us potential buyers through the assortment of stuff available!
So cool to have you along and we are glad to hear that you are getting value out of our videos, that's why we make them. We love that we get to show you these RVs in a completely unbiased way so we can say what we like and what we don't. Wants, needs and priorities are different for everyone and we want to help folks see the whole picture for themselves. It's exciting to hear that you are shopping and there are so many choices for you. I am 5' tall so I think you would be able to handle the microwave no problem. Critters can always get to something! Damn it! One of the ideas of a fully enclosed underbelly is to stop that but we have had critters climb up our electrical cord 😩 I have not heard of folks having them come in through the slide mechanism. If they did they would (or should) only have access to the space between the enclosed underbelly and the floor system but there is still lots of stuff in there for them to cause problems with. So the best protection is not to park in tall grassy areas, try to keep attachments off of the ground and use deterrents at points of entry. We went back and looked at the video you mention and we agree with you about the vent/light. We will make a comment to clear it up for other viewers. Thanks for that. Let us know if we can help you in your search. We are super excited as we are developing a tool to help folks buy the right RV for them and we hope to start testing it out in the next few months and it might just be perfect for you. Hopefully you are keeping warm over there in Washington, the skies are dark, the leaves are almost gone and the temps are dropping here in BC. Winter is on its way!
Like your reviews and this f'plan a lot; wish you'd do the RW 2507S (and twin), too. Also, Keep in mind: the floorplan may be the same, but, the flooring and cabinet colors MAY BE different (probably, other minor touches, as well); consider them "fraternal" twins. Y'all Be Safe!
Glad you liked it. We will add the RW 2507s and the FLS 25BDS to our list for you. The two brands are exactly the same in build quality, materials, floorplans, cabinetry and flooring. There are 2 decor packages for cushions, accents and bedding for each the RW and FLS and they are extremely close to each other. Where you may be able to have 3 decor packages in another brand you basically get 4 here because these 2 brands are exactly the same in every other way. More like identical twins wearing different cloths haha Stay Tuned we do have the FLS 26FKBS coming out soon. Thanks for watching.
The reason that Forest River manufactures the same models under different names is so that dealers close to each other have the appearance of selling different products. They are actually required to carry opposite "brands" if they're within a certain distance of one another. I bought this model in the states for $25k. I don't know how much that is in Canadian dollars, but I doubt It's $43k.
It is true that Rockwood and Flagstaff are essentially the same product so that dealerships don't appear to be selling competitive products. As for whether it is an actual requirement we would believe that to be true but do not have any facts to support it. If you do please send it to doessizematter99@gmail.com so that we can verify it. Thanks for sharing and for watching.
@@DoesSizeMatter When I purchased my 2020 Flagstaff 25fks, I mentioned to the salesman that we had just looked at an identical Rockwood at a nearby dealership. He explained to us that dealers within X number of miles of each other, had to carry opposite brands. I forget how many miles X is, but he was very specific with a number. Forest River is the maker of both Rockwood and Flagstaff, so I believe the policy is theirs, so they can maximize sells without customers bargaining dealers against each other. I'm not sure how well this strategy works. It was obvious to me that the Rockwood and Flagsraff were the exact same travel trailer.
@@tangoindiamike9189 Yes these are Forest River's decisions and there are slight differences in decor or colours but yes they are the same trailers. Next time we are talking with the rep we will ask him what the distance difference is. We do believe your sales person was giving you a straight answer (which is not always the case with info from sales people) We also wanted to explain how price differences are calculated. As of today's exchange rate this trailer would be about $34K US, approx $9K difference compared to the one you bought. There is a whole bunch of other fees to consider though. One of the biggest is Options, which can add up to thousands of dollars. Another is shipping, a dealership in BC pays far more to get a product onto their lot then say a dealership in Michigan that is much closer to Elkhart. There is also Duty to consider and then the exchange number which is calculated on the exchange rate at the time the dealer receives the unit not at the time they sell it. So the only way to fairly compare the prices on 2 trailers is if the dealerships are in close proximity to one another, in the same country and by comparing the spec sheets so that all of the options can be calculated in, and you must compare MSRP to sale prices as well. You have to compare apples to apples. Now the $43K price tag on this one was for sure the MSRP and dealerships always have room to negotiate off of that (which is probably one of the things that happened to help you get such a great price). So when you take all of these things into consideration it is completely realistic that the $9K difference adds up. This is not a situation where a dealership is trying to overprice the unit for their own gain. Hope this helps to explain pricing a bit better and we are super thrilled that you got such a great price on your's and you love it so much. It really is a great trailer.
@@DoesSizeMatter Yeah, I think MSRP was about $34k. Sale price was about $25k, but after taxes and other fees, my out the door price was about $27,800 out the door. This included a weight distribution hitch with sway control, and they installed a brake controller in my truck. I know that prices are up right now, and Canadian dollars are more than U.S. dollars, and as you said, there are the import/export taxes, etc. We are certainly enjoying our Flagstaff 25FKS...at this very moment, we are on a lakefront site, enjoying the view and wonderful weather.
@@tangoindiamike9189 Yay! we are so glad to hear you are relaxing and having some fun. That is what your trailer is for. I am looking out at the sunny lake right now too but I still have a lot of editing and chores to do so not quite as much fun as you are having. Enjoy yourselves.
I really love this trailer but I wish it had a closet near the door. The windows are amazing 🤩 I don’t need that much kitchen in fact I love the sinks that are at the door angled. I’ve had that in a past camper and loved it because I’m fat and don’t like being jammed against the stove when doing anything at the sink
We like it too but yes a closet by the door would be a good thing. We think there is a similar floor plan that has one but if this is too much kitchen you need something different. There are so many choices. We just have to keep looking.
Glad you liked it. We loved this kitchen and are thankful we don't use a microwave that often and we would get to keep all the lower cabinetry so we guess its the pros and cons right! Thanks for watching
Glad you like it. This is a nice trailer but of course not ours so I can't say more about the microwave. What I do know is that our microwave in the Beaver is super high as well and I have to use a stool to reach it, which I don't like because it can be dangerous with hot things, but for us we don't use it much anyhow so we would rather keep the lower cabinetry for frequently used items rather then give up the space to a less used microwave. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Glad you liked it and ya they are the same as the Geo Pro. One of these days we hope to be able to film one of these tables set up. thanks for watching.
All of the length and weight info is found in the number section which you can find easily in the description by clicking the blue time stamp titled 'the numbers' or you can scroll through to the title clip 'the Numbers'. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@DoesSizeMatter Thank you!! I was afraid I was over looking something, and I was. I really enjoy watching your videos. Thanks again for your quick response!
Glad we could help you out. As we mention in the beginning we also leave those time stamps for you so you can pick whatever you want to watch and go back and forth easily. That way you have complete control over your viewing experience. Thanks for watching.
It would be nice to label the gray tanks and outlet drains and clean water tanks so there’s no confusing. Sometimes simple things go a long way, just saying
Some manufacturers do put stickers on to say grey or black etc... but we notice that they are just stickers which easily come off and if an owner gets a good walk through when they buy and watches some good YT videos they will understand their system and how to use it but if you think you will forget you could always label them yourself. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Actually it isn't on the label inside, if we need the numbers in the exact moment we do take a pic of the info inside the door and google the serial number which eventually leads you to the size but your statement is misleading to viewers.
@@DoesSizeMatter when you opened the refer, there are 2 labels. And yes ma'am any refer in NORTH AMERICA has the size within the model number. For example: 1: TYPE 21TFA IS A 21 cu.ft. Top Freezer appliance 2: GSL25JFXN LB IS A 25 CU.FT. refer If the label has been removed That's a different story. I am just trying to let you know, sometimes people replace refers and the original equipment might be different... Or do you disagree with this point, As a buyer of pre-owned vehicles?
@@patrickholcomb9628 The number you are referring to would be the number that we use to google search the size with. We see what you mean that it could refer to the size but it is not obvious that that is what it means and could be mistaken as something else or another number could be mistaken as the fridge size so we would recommend getting more info then that. We do agree that folks do change fridges out and what you find on a used model could be different than what is expected especially if the fridge type has been changed from a 2 way to an all electric.
I hear you we don't use an outdoor kitchen either and would prefer it to be storage but lots of folks love them. I bet you could get this trailer without it if you want, probably save you a bit of money too. Thanks for watching.
I think I’ll have trouble finding something in 2022 where all the cabinets in the camper are one finish. I hate the wood/white thing one or the other please.
size does matter but if you gonna refer to stuff comparing sizes to you... how big are you how much room is between stuff we get no idea on how much room it is if we dont' have a baseline measurement for all i know you could be 6' tall and 250lbs
Sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn't, depends on you. We are sharing from our perspective and in general it is obvious what my size is but I am 5' tall. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Led brake lights should be full length bars instead of the circle ⭕️ led, can’t see it with the ladder and other stuff obstructing it’s view to other drivers
Well we are not sure what the legal requirements are for lights but we do know that Flagstaff is meeting them. The lights will show fine with ladder placement as long as the owner does not attach anything to the ladder and there is nothing else blocking them. If you prefer full length bars other manufacturers do use them and you may prefer to look at another brand. Hope that helps thanks for watching
Glad you liked it. Microwave placement is always a challenge but also important for those who use it a lot. We do not so we could probably make do but yes it was high. thanks for watching.
All of the weights are found in 'the numbers' section near the end and should give you all of the information you are looking for. Thanks for watching.
To each his/her own we always say. What one person thinks is great is absolutely not right for someone else. None of those things would be things we would want or would align with our wants, needs and priorities list but that is what we love about RVs once you get your list nailed down there is a right one out there for everyone. thanks for watching.
Those details are found in the Numbers section of the video which you can find by scrolling through to the title 'the Numbers' or there is a time stamp in the video description that will take you right to it with one click. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
This is a very attractive trailer, However... looking at the floor plan on the manufacturer's website, it definitely appears that the bathroom and bedroom are not accessible with the slide pulled in. That's a yikes for me! We're anxiously waiting to pick up our new-to-us gently used 2006 Flagstaff 23FBS next week. Way less fancy than this one, with a way different floor plan and presumably all the bugs worked out! Thanks for the greatly informative videos!
We tend to agree with you that it most likely won't be accessible which is bummer. The 23FBS is a nice floor plan too. If we can get our hands on one we would like to review it too. We can see why you would choose it. We for sure advocate for buying used as long as it has been taken care of for the exact reason you mention. Glad you getting one. We'd love to hear how it goes. Nice to have you along with us. Thanks for watching.
@@DoesSizeMatter Thanks so much! My favorite thing about the (old) 23FBS is the inside storage! Not much right in the kitchen, but around and under the bed, over the sofa (slide), a nice pantry, and a big hanging closet in the bathroom. The newer models appear to have a much different layout.
@@aksez2u Oh wow, this is so exciting. What do you plan to do first? and where are you going? You are giving me the excitement jitters! I wish we could get going somewhere. Tell me all about it. If you like you can send us a pic to doessizematter99@gmail.com We'd love to see it.
We aren't sure which access panels you are talking about could you please clarify. We have never heard of any complaints or injuries due to magnets not holding up in the wind but if you have more information we may be able to clarify it for you. Thanks for watching
It's hard to know with this information. Each model of truck can have varying details around the engine and transmission size so you would have to know what the tow capacity for the specific vehicle is you are wanting to tow with is not just the general model. As well this trailer has a great cargo carrying capacity so how much buffer space you will have will depend on how heavy you load the trailer. A larger vehicle will have much more buffer space so you could load the trailer close to it's max CCC but if the vehicle does not have much buffer space to begin with you will really need to avoid using that CCC. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching
Actually, electrical is one of the more expensive parts of RV manufacturing and if you are willing to pay more you can get more outlets in different levels of trailers. Hope that helpls.
Good question and the answer is nothing. The 2506S is under the Rockwood name and the 25FKS is under the Flagstaff name and they are built by the same people and are the same. We believe the reasons that companies do this is about spreading out the licenses to sell the same products to different dealerships that are in closer proximity to one another yet making them seem like they are not in direct competition. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
As we have already mentioned to you in multiple other comments. We separate the info with title clips so that you can go directly to the numbers if that is the info that is most important to you and yes you are welcome for it. We are happy to provide the info you are looking for. Thanks for watching all of these videos we really appreciate it.
Ya it's a tough decision for us because we don't use the microwave all that often and we hate to give up reachable storage space in the kitchen but they are pretty high up. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and watching.
Ya most folks do like to know that number and it is all there in the numbers section of the video. Check it out, we're sure it will help you out. Thanks for watching
We hear your point on this. First we don't really love the idea of having 2 separate drains that you have to set up a Y to or drain separately and yes having them under the slide is also inconvenient but you do have to consider that these are small trailers and there is only so much space to put things. If you are dumping at a sani station your slides would be in and when setting up at a park we would suggest getting your hoses set up before opening the slide and then you only have to go under occasionally for black drain. Hope that helps. thanks for watching
We see where you could be confused as the AC looks like it is not centered because it is close to the fridge but if you look at the whole ceiling it is pretty close. Even if it was not centered it would have to do with best placement to accommodate for lighting, venting etc... There is nothing to indicate that the trailer has bee poorly built. Again, clearly you do not like this trailer and you should look at something different instead of spending your time on this one. It's ok to move on to something you like better. There are so many options for you.
@@DoesSizeMatter I envy you. The general construction of things in the world isn't built for tall people. I'd prefer not banging my head on everything and not being asked all the time to "hey, can you get that for me?" I still do it anyway, but a 6'2" body can only fold so much. My 39 y.o. sister is 5'4".
We try to do both and usually say if it is the MSRP. On this particular one I think it was the MSRP but you can check them out in more detail as we always put a link to them in the video description. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
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Some features I liked but for pete sake, what's going on with the microwave and kitchen cabinets? Stupidly high/ out of reach for many potential customers. Good grief guys, how about having people under 6' look at your designs before you go into production on some of this?
It is a bit hard for us to reach upper cabinets in most rigs. This one was no worse than a 5th wheel but we are always concerned about high microwaves. We have a stool for all of these types of things as there is only so much space in any RV. We really love when there is lots of lower storage space. Thanks for watching
All I can think is the presenter is either 4’ tall or everything is gigantically high! I’m guessing the company likes using a small person to make the trailer look bigger…. WOW 12 foot ceilings! Ha ha ha
Haha I am 5' tall to give you the perspective you are looking for and our reviews are completely unbiased and the manufacturer or dealership had nothing to do with our review. Hope that helps you out. Thanks for watching
Well you are entitled to your opinion and that's ok but we thought it was pretty good. For a trailer of this length with only one slide it was pretty functional in our opinion. Thanks for watching.
High microwaves are tough for us too but considering how often we use one it really isn't a big deal to us. We would rather keep the lower space for counter and cabinetry. It is all about personal wants, needs and priorities and there is only so much space in an RV kitchen, actually this one did pretty well we thought. Thanks for watching
In this particular floor plan having a made up bed is a feature for those who do not want to make up a bed every night so there is no need or want for the bed to be a fold up. If you are looking for a unit that does not have a made up bed this not the floor plan for you but we do have plenty of other manufacturers and floor plans that you can see reviews of. Remember other folks have different wants, needs and priorities then you do so just because something is different then what you are looking for doesn't make it wrong or bad in general just not for you. Hope that helps
😂 Fair enough! What are the pain in the butt places that would be a problem for you? We are always interested in what buyers think. Thanks for watching.
Same ugly brown cabinets. When are they going to get rid of those panel wood 🪵 colors. 1960 is over with. Those over head lights are old. Where are the leds upgrade lights. Come on people get with the program. Too many old figure’s same old stuff.
Brown cabinets are not our favourite either but Flagstaff has been making decor changes, check out our more recent Rockwood/Flagstaff videos for other decor options. The lights are all LED but clearly you don't like this particular trailer so we really do suggest you check out one of the many many others we have reviewed to find the one that works for you. If you dislike one this much you should not spend your time on it when there are so many others to choose from. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
