30 second review: -About as big as an xbox -Runs hot -You pay a premium for compromising on normal case features -Limited compatibility -Fuck hex screws -Get a normal case
Actually: -About as big as an xbox -Possibility to use better hardware than most people have in standard cases and keep temps somewhat acceptable -Now seriously, anyone saying console is better than PC, simply go into the corner and die quietly
But worth mentioning. I got some self cutting grub screws (cross head, of course) for fan mounts with a case, really nasty and needed a lot of pressure to mount. Later upgraded to some Noctua fans, and noticed they'd included some screws too. The difference was remarkable; almost effortless to cut into the plastic both on the Noctua and on the originals ( the original fan I tried already had tracks, so I tried two of the case's screws and two of Noctua's and the latter were much easier). Good quality screws make building a rig a much more pleasant experience.
And be annoyed at a screw that doesn't grind itself up through use. And is specifically built to torque out. Hex, Torx, or Robertson. Everything else is bullshit.
Keep saving and you'll be able to update your GTX 1080 from potato edition to hash brown, but if you are looking to save money you could always get the mashed potato 1080
Ultimate Dream Setup: Corsair 16 Watt Potato Supply GeForce 2 Potato Asus P2B Potato Compatible Edition Socket 21 intel 286 EXTREME Potato Power Edition Corsair Potato Series 4 Orange Juice CPU Cooler Toshiba ULTRA Widescreen 10" 25Hz Monitor 1985 Apple Mac Mouse Commodore 64 Keyboard w/ modern Potato Adapter Original DOOM and Half Life 2 AND the original Windows XP Pinball Windows 3.1 IBM Aptiva Cool Yellow Case (1995) Total Price: £894,927,208 ($1.2 Billion) My idea of a bargain.
Yea it could be huge in Canada, but the population of the US is twice as much as Canada's. Therefore it is more likely that there are more US viewers. So they will advertise to their larger audience.
Imperial is more difficult to understand, and is therefore superior. Its the same way we run our politics. If you just babble like an idiot, you can even become a presidential candidate!
Firstly, that is an unnecessary correction. Secondly, he didn't specify whether the PSU should be running. Thirdly, an unpowered PSU can be just as deadly as a powered one. The very first thing you should have been taught about servicing or building computers is *never fuck with a PSU.* If it is broken, chuck it out; never play with the internals, as even an unpowered PSU can store enough charge to kill or severely injure you.
4:40-Actually really high quality 304 and 316 stainless steel is not magnetic or is very weakly magnetic. So in reference to the screws, it's not necessarily low "Steel" content that means they are non magnetic, they actually could instead be 100% super high quality steel. My point is, the "Iron" content makes it magnetic not the "Steel" content as you said. And even still a small amount of additive metals to the iron can change the metals crystal structure and change it's magnetic properties quite drastically. (Though to be honest those screws might just some type of nickle alloy...) Still good video, thanks :)
Exactly what I meant when I said above: "And even still a small amount of additive metals to the iron can change the metals crystal structure and change it's magnetic properties quite drastically."
Its mostly a issue for cheap crappy philips screws that are about as hard as cheese. What i hate about them is with how much force you need to push down on it in order to not have it slip, while hex or torx need next to zero force.
in canada we have a screw with a square hole in it, it falls in easy and doesnt fall out by acident, it also never strips the screw; i dont think they are used anywhere else but i am always told they are the best type.
Have you heard of JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screws? They look like philips but are *much* better. You can look up videos here comparing them and the philips just suck. I think some guy said that philips screws were made to torque out easily for cheap wooden furniture in the 1930s. JIS is *so* much better, they don't torque out and my guess is you don't need to apply so much force on them like the philips.
yeah as someone who builds shit for a living, philips screws are pretty much the worst design of screw possible. They're designed so that the driver will pop out once you reach a certain torque, which (in theory) is supposed to prevent you from tightening them too tight. But in reality, it's possible to tighten them so hard that you can't loosen them without the driver popping out and stripping. Comptuer hardware is actually kind of the odd one out in that it's standardized to philips. Allen and Torx are just plain better and are used on pretty much everything in professional settings. Also thre reason the screws in this case aren't magnetic is because they're probably 316 stainless steel.
I couldn't hear you about the Hex screws, because there was too much Fahrenheit and inches and foots and ounces and yards and other random stuff in the way.
Not really. I mean, you shouldn't try, but in reality power supplies are slightly more user-serviceable than manufacturers do (and obviously must) make it out to be. Of course, most you can do inside one is replace the fan, but in theory the capacitors inside modern PSUs should have discharge resistors wired around them, so that they don't hold their charge for too long. And regardless of what you do, always ground yourself (e.g. by plugging the PSU into a wall socket with the switch turned off) and don't try to sense the temperature of the components inside a running PSU using your hand :P
That complaint about the bolts made me cringe so hard. Those bolts are actually 100% steel, stainless steel to be exact. Stainless steel usually mostly consists of austenite, which is diamagnetic ("not magnetisable"). "Normal steel" in contrast consists mostly of ferrite, which is ferromagnetic ("magnetisable"). for the non-engineers: both are 100% steels, both are mostly made of iron and carbon, one is magnetic, the other isn't... So basically you're complaining about having high quality bolts that won't rust...
thank you for explaining that before i did. i got slightly triggered at the stupidity as well. however to be fair screws that are magnetic is certainly convenient. hard decision there. (maybe some form of Nickel alloy would be the best choice for being magnetic and having excellent longevity)
"this is a PC case, not a boat :p" -LinusTechTips, 2016 And what does that have to do with anything? If Linus wants to criticise a tech company, or even an entire continent, on a popular youtube channel then he should make sure he knows what he's talking about.
Just a quick comment on the sponsor. I own the two SunJack Lightsticks in the sponsor ad at the beginning of the video. I *adore* them. They give HUGE amounts of light, have useful modes, and can even work as a battery bank. The sockets are under a screw-down gasketed cap, with a nylon retainer strip. They're well designed and well executed. I purchased both of them for my personal use and got no promotional discounts or spiffs for my opinion.
I actually like smaller cases since they don't take as much space as normal Atx cases and are generally nicer looking. And since we all can agree that most cases are >60% air inside why wouldn't you squeeze that waste volume out? Of course you stop squeezing when temps start rising.
LTT!!! THANK YOU for including open style coolers in this!!! I have been looking for how blower vs open coolers do in extreme sff cases for a very long time!! It was awesome to see! You legitimately dont understand how excited I am to see this!
Linus! WTF? Phillips drive screws are the hallmark of unsophisticated low tech construction. They strip easily and require considerable thrust to avoid stripping and the thrust requirement increases to the degree that it is stuck. Sometimes you just can get into a position to provide the necessary thrust to avoid stripping a phillips drive screw. The screws aren't magnetic because they are quality stainless steel. Stripped or broken off fasteners can ruin an entire component potentially thus it's not good to chastise manufacturers who are thoughtful enough to take steps to avoid the issue. Hex and Torx heads look attractive and sophisticated, require very little thrust and are much harder to strip (especially SS ones). There's no reason or excuse for a quality component to have Phillips drive screws and you asking manufacturers to use them and not understanding that stainless screws aren't magnetic or that Phillips drive screws are a poor choice not only makes you appear foolish but leads to poor quality components for everyone given your ability to influence the industry.
It’s stainless steel lol a Philips head screwdriver ain’t going to strip it especially since your not going to be removing frequently, which is what causes them strip down a bit quicker
Seams nice and all, but I already got my self a Node 202 early this year and I'm all proud and happy with my rig. Right now i'm looking into modding some stuff on it.
Looking back on this video, I'm so glad I backed it. It's an awesome case. My intention was to be able to take a gaming desktop on flights as a carry-on. Still surprised I haven't had trouble with TSA yet...
EMPiiRE Metric is arguably better. Imperial is based on metric actually. Metric has a real life definition and the measurements are done down to pico, which is quite precise. The imperial system is very reliant on demical points. Metric only needs decimal points for added accuracy, but imperial requires the decimal point for many measurements.The imperial system has one more flaw; ambiguous conversion methods. There are no nice round numbers and no one can remember them all.
Rofl, yep always gotta disclaim the crap out of these kinds of videos... The amount of failed projects I've covered... good god That said - dat case...
anonYMUS Then change it, it's not that hard. These temps could kill your card in no time. Just unscrew all the screws, clean the old thermal paste with some alcohol and change the thermal paste. Did that to my HD7970 and brought the temps down by about 7-8°C under load. And don't be so lighthearted about it... even if it's just a 3870, I wouldn't want to kill it. Maybe you can put it into a multimedia PC if you get a new one, like I did with my old 4870.
The hex screw is used to prevent people from DIY repairs and force them to pay the supplier to replace the whole item. Simplifies the warranty and increases profits via "after sales support". My simple rule is, if it has a hex screw, don't buy it. In carpentry a hex screw is called a torque screw and is typically used for long screws that need a better fit when using a drill with a hex bit to screw them in. There's no reason (or excuse) to use hex screws on metal to metal contacts unless they're designed to never be loosened (like on railway tracks).
LoL us in the Europe say the same about you in a US screw system. Just from the looks of them screws they might be Stainless steel look to see if there is any coding on them "A2 or A4 are the most common coding used on S/Steel screws nuts and bolts the case looks good might think about it as a carry PC
there are two main types of Stainless Steels Austenitic and Ferritic. Ferritic are magnetic (400 grades S/Steels ie 409/1.4512) Austenitic are classed as non magnetic BUT are very slightly magnetic only detectable by special equipment (300 grades S/Steel ie 316/1.4401) there are lots of other things that can make S/Steels magnetic but that too long to go through here
An unlocked cpu would be better, quite eaay to go between an overclocked, overvolted state and a non overclock, undervolted state or even over/underclock with reduced voltage..
I would like to see as much as possible a video with all cases (or assembled systems), next to each other for size comparison and summary capabilities.
Hooodini check out the node 202 case if you like small form factor. it's slightly bigger but relatively the same thing for only $80 ($120 if you get the one with a power supply included). still pretty awesome price for mini itx.
We've been running prototypes with i7/Xeon E3 paired up with GTX 970 / R9-270X without problems so far. It's just that going over 150W TDP on GPU and 90W TDP (which Linus just did) on CPU might mean throttling and bottlenecks in such case.
what is the point of shoving all of this high end hardware into a shitty small case to cook it for no reason, when you can show it off with a mid-tower with a sidepanel window with leds and keep it way cooler and more presentable. After all, it is a computer not a potato console that doesn't need airflow
Europe here. We'll start using Philips screws as soon as you guys convert to metric. BTW high quality stainless steel screws are often non-magnetic. I'd prefer more strength and better corrosive behavieour over magnetism for the one time you touch that thing. cheers.
+sepehr certain people get a positive physical reaction to certain sounds. Others get relaxed by the same sounds. That is the tldr of ASMR. the community is of course people that make videos catering to ASMR and those that watch those videos
I was just joking. But seriously Phillips head screws were designed on purpose to make the screwdrivers slip to help prevent over torquing but nowadays everyone uses torque setting screwdrivers yet i still often slip on philips heads. This is not a problem with hexs.
Makes me want to throw out the window my brother "jet engine noisy" PS4 and build a beast living room console smasher/entertainment machine! :D The idea and looks of this chassis are awesome imo
"Ting provides service in the United States using Sprint's CDMA, EV-DO 3G, 4G WiMAX, and 4G LTE nationwide network as well as GSM service via the T-Mobile network."
I pay £13 a month ($17 usd) for unlimited internet (I have used 18 gigs in the last 2 weeks), 200 texts and 200 minutes with 3 mobile. Ting still seems overpriced to me.
I pay £11 ($15) a month with 3, get 3000 texts, 300 minutes, unlimited internet. I need it though, I used about 30gbs on wifi last month, and 50gbs on mobile data. Why, how I love 3 contracts that aren't sold any more.
Too bad it's US only, which is sad/annoying as Linus is in Canada last time I heard. We get ass-raped up here for mobile. I'm at $70/mo with only 256MB of data. Fucking Bell.
I get the small form factors for laptops, you have to hold the damn thing. but I don't get this.... why does it matter how small your box-to-plug-peripherals into is???
Something tells me this case will not be cheap! It is amazing though and I really, really want it. Already have a mini-ITX system minus the PSU and AIO CPU Cooler. Will definitely be saving up for this case and rig upgrades!!!!
Use some vasalene in the middle of the hex on the screws. Helps for installing small fasteners, as the 'goop' sticks the fastener to the bit driver instead of using magnetism (as the fasteners are probably 17-4 stainless steel - expensive stuff)
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Half year after I figured out this is a polish case. Awesome! :)
Hex screws are actually pretty awesome (never stripped one when using the right size bit, while phillips basically invites head stripping) but they are definitely way easier to use if magnetic
