Smash Bros. Melee Competitive Mechanics EXPLAINED ft. SSBM Tutorials 

Ayy. Love your videos. I've noticed that you stopped using trivia. Why's that?

hey look, it's that melee guy

vDeadbolt Maybe because it felt forced more often than not.

Yaeven it wasn’t forced at all it was just a cool thing that was part of some clips to add context

Why was Kira gone for a long time?!

SON WAKE UP YOUR LATE FOR SCHOOL

This comment deserves an infinite amount of likes

Just don’t expect anything on ultimate cause like they did with Pokémon sun and moon for competitive Pokémon they would probably have to wait for ultimate to finish in order to know where x character ended up in the competitive scene

I just really like the analysis that they did on pikachu, jiggs and fox and would like more of that

They are on the way, we have just had some roadblocks in trying to efficiently produce the Pokemon videos so we can allocate resources for the Smash videos. The Smash videos are harder to make because we need good people to help record the footage and we need to reach out to more people for information on characters for each game.

@@FalseSwipeGaming Is it bad that I read your comment with your voice in my head?

@Hunter Price If by "the movement", you're referring to Wave Dashing, then absolutely not. While I can appreciate the benefits of Wave Dashing, it's incredibly unintuitive as a mechanic (aerial evasive option = grounded movement option) and thus I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally implement Wave Dashing.

@Hunter Price The main appeal of Wave Dashing is the ability to move quickly while retaining your grounded options, no? Doesn't Smash Ultimate already let you do that? I understand that there are other benefits to Wave Dashing like attacking while sliding backward, but my point is that there are much more intuitive ways of letting the player reap the same benefits of Wave Dashing. These options don't necessarily have to be easy to perform, but their inputs should make sense and not come across as jank.

wave dashing isn't hard to do tho lol. If anything perfect pivoting is MUCH harder wheras a wavedash gives you much more leeway in execution

@@Alienrun It's not about how difficult a technique is. It's about how intuitive the mechanic is. Wave Dashing is very unintuitive as I've previously outlined, and thus should not be intentionally implemented.

@@Hobie02425 I don't doubt that it becomes second nature, and I'm well aware that it revolutionized competitive Melee. It still doesn't change my stance.

Chaud314231 Only Turnips

16:07 "Fox and Falco's down b is a reflector move."

@@FluidOregon I hate using the term "whoosh" but it's appropriate here

It must be a bug or smh

lol at these trolls shine is an offensive move you're thinking of power-shielding

Pretty bad. I bet he has never won any tournament

I think he was top 25 in SoCal at sone point

Hey he was ranked on the melee top 100 so he's been among the 100 best people in the world at his prime.

@@cgyh68748 you're pretty stupid

He was pretty good before his hands started hurting. He had a lot of potential to get even better

Heresy

It is Sunday stupid

@@magicbread8111 "2 years ago"

@@rnnenzo horray you found the joke

I mean, yea? That's what fox in those videos was literally based off of lol

@@Jarekthegamingdragon HIYAH

@@Jarekthegamingdragon HYPA SPEEDO

With all due respect, Melee is far from a perfect game. However, the games flaws lead to it's shining points and they are also partly the reason there is still a Melee community.

Melee is the closest thing to perfect we’ll get

I play a good amount of Melee. It's not even close to perfect BUT the great things about it make it so addictive and fun that it's easy to ignore all the flaws.

Melee imo is the most creative fighting game out there. What I mean by 'creative' is that in most fighting games, the physics are straightforward, and the combos are pulled off with the same string of buttons. In Melee, you can create your own combos; you can move around the stage in so many ways; and you can even influence the success of another person's combos. There's so much FREEDOM in this game, from the physics to the punish game, that other fighting games lack.

Yeeeeeup

"In Smash- [*bo-doop*] 64..."

*ahem* 18 years now, nearing our 2nd decade

Abandoned would be an improvement. Nintendo has Evo 2012 and UCF issues, and Valve literally just nuked the entire TF2 economy this week with bugged crates lmao

Always find so many people who play melee and tf2. Love em both

Except TF2 on a casual and competitive level are played identically because there are no real hidden mechanics.

@@D1ab0lical that is very much not true. Competitive tf2 rulesets are very different from casual play.

Hey man. Just saw this, and curious, how's it going? You still playing?

Rip

I ask myself that every day.

happens is the longhorn weekly going on now

Who?

lmao nintendo did not mean to make a game this absurdly complex

@@asianpablo1574 OK

?

Many people have agreed Armada's recent tier list is the new official one

@@Young-bx2pf yeah but there's no numbers it feels incomplete

@@Young-bx2pf A lot of the community does not agree Puff is #1 as she still loses to fox and marth MU wise. That's just Armadas bias after losing to hbox for so many years.

I was gonna say. Infinites are bad in any fighting game, no matter how hard they are to do or how bad the character that can do them is. Not that I'm any good, but if I was I wouldn't play in a tournament that allowed it.

I mean, he went from second best to worst outright.

Masterball778 such a sad story

Vicctre Tamaj I think the saddest one is falcon (fall from top and high to bottom)

Chain grab, chain grab, Meta Knight, chain grab, trip, chain grab.

@@Jungy_Mungerson oh no

Kira question, do you have any plans on coming back to SSBM Tutorials? Very interested in this game you are working on

Haha wombo combo!!!!' XDD

*BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP*

Strider Gambit X what is the joke?

fox voice clips funny sound affect funny ahahaha

haha shine 1 viable character am i funny now

By mechanics, you mean cute little gimmicks that break the game in fifty different ways? Sure, whatever you say...

@@Strixer-gk2kz No, I mean mechanics, and they don't break the game they make it better. And it's more than just wavedashes. Things like even basic ass jump momentum (the mechanic of running to jump further, it's in most decent platformers) that the new games can't even be bothered to program. Nintendo fanboys complaining about Melee always look dumb and never know what they're talking about lol.

@@DjaliGoatShow Hey guy, I'm just happy ledge trumping is a thing and that some moves are not exploitable to all hell. Hopefully, when Nintendo re-releases Super Smash Bros. 2 in some way, they'll make the necessary balance adjustments or at the very least make everybody broken.

@@DjaliGoatShow Guy, you can give me a million and a half reasons why Melee is "better" competitively and I wouldn't care. Though I love the game, I despise playing it competitively. The disparity between good players and really good players is WAY too vast. Say you're playing Melee for the first time and want to be competitive but don't know anything about it. Most likely, you'll go in and out of the game being taught what the game teaches you. So you play at the tourney, and your opponent starts doing all of this bullshit that you've never seen before, you lose and you're left wondering what the hell just happened. So the next day you look online(and you HAVE to look online because the manual and the in-game tutorials don't tell you anything)and you learn about advanced techniques, wave dashing, wave landing, L-cancel, crouch cancel, etc. My main problem is that you can't just have your fundamentals down and expect to win, you HAVE to learn all this crap if you even want to stand a chance at high-level play. Then there's the matter of your character, you spend many hours working to unlock everybody, only to learn that you didn't have to as seven of the best characters(one of which being number one)are available to you at the start with only three more needing to be unlocked. Regardless, you unlock everyone, pick a main and you train, only to learn that your character...just sucks, and it's not because you're bad at the game or anything, at no fault of your own your character sucks. Other characters have more options, better attacks, more cancels, SPIKES and a bunch of other things. So now you forget everything you've worked up to with that character, even though you REALLY want to use that character, you have to drop him because you can't win otherwise. In a world of space animals, ninjas, stretchy armed blue-haired swordsmen, princesses, balloon pokemon and infinite chain grabbing couples, no accommodations should be made. Then there are all the glitches, invisible ceiling, freezing, clipping through stages, phantom hits. And that's competitive Melee in a nutshell, nowhere near the tediousness of competitive Brawl, but extremely tedious nonetheless. Ultimate has a huge roster with more coming later, better balance across characters and everyone is on an even playing field with no surprise gimmicks involved(not to mention better graphics, more music, and more game modes).

@@Strixer-gk2kz yes you are right but I think I know a compromise, melee is a great game with bugs being turned into complex mechanics giving people who want a game to work on a game......but it also has stupid bugs and glitches like phantom and the invisible ceiling glitch and having L canceling be unnecessarily gratuitous but it's still played to spite these problems.