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SMASHED my PB with a Cheap 'Speed Run' RC Car! WLtoys 124019

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How close am I to the 100 MPH RC Car Club? Here's part two of the journey, I hope to do a few more changes and get back out there. Also, the WLtoys 144001 Speed Build will be coming back to the channel as soon as I replace the ESC! #jager13 #wltoys
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@OwenBuckingham11 3 года назад

Try an FPV drone battery, they are usually around 70-100C easily, and 1300-1500mah, so it will be lighter and way more powerful

@VaLULrant 3 года назад

Or just any 3s that's not trash. 100C is literally the worst 3s I own all my "performance" ones are 150C.

@HuckThis1971 3 года назад

Being in the aerospace industry, the front or leading edge is VERY important for aerodynamics! 😉 Look into going with lmp (le Mans prototype) style body.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes agree.... I'm still waiting on some 'stuff' from good old China... so I made do with about 75% of my planned 'Aero'. The next run will have a few extras added. I want to keep it open wheel...and 3s.

@HuckThis1971 3 года назад

@@toolbaggers Porsche's new 919 Hybrid Evo Le Mans Car is Faster than an F1! 🤔 Open wheel cars have massive drag at high speeds. Much easier to snap on a more aerodynamic body than messing around with suspension and other structural components. He's aiming for 100mph, not back to the future flaming disappearances!

@ubedthchannels8400 3 года назад

I've seen this car on one of the Indonesian RU-vid channels during a race. This car is really fast 👍👍👍

@awangasfia6565 3 года назад

@Javier Meador 🤣🤣

@Suesserto 3 года назад

@@awangasfia6565 I’ve seen that insta account hack comment like a million times and it’s starting to get annoying

@allanritchie1539 2 месяца назад

That was impressive 85 mph, can't wait to see you get the magic number shortly.😊😊😊😊😊

@rcmakingtracks18 3 года назад

Congrats on the PB 85mph. Great job buddy. Keep em coming. Thanks for sharing. John

@wh112978 3 года назад

The thing is so fast! I have the exact same ESC going in mine, but I'm going to use a 10.5 T rocket motor. You seem to have found the perfect size Wheel and Tire, I think I'm going to go with those.

@venture7o7 Год назад

How do you like the 10.5 T rocket motor?

@wh112978 Год назад

@@venture7o7 it was toooo much for that little car! Lol never found out how fast it was because it would just sling the axles out. I have put the setup into a traxxas boat, but that was a disaster that ended with me swimming in a cold lake! Haven't found a good vehicle for that motor yet, but I haven't given up yet. I'm thinking about a drift car or something that can handle the wheel speed.

@clickbaitfishing7787 3 года назад

If you have a spoiler on the back it will lift the front either add front spoiler or decrease the angle of rear to a minimum . If your aiming for top end reduce the drag the spoiler creates. You could even find some slim foam sheet to put under the chassis to reduce the air flowing under the vehicle

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, the last configuration had a much more aggressive spoiler., so I've changed to this one (removed some material to reduce the downforce slightly). You do still need to keep the rear end pushed down for traction. I've also made some mods under the chassis that I'll share at a later date.

@RCplamodel 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing this very informative video! 👍👍

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

No probs dude

@smashrc8481 3 года назад

"I don't want to show what is underneath it at the moment" *immediately tells us everything*

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

haha... underneath meaning what I've done actually underneath the chassis. Not under the body :)

@andyroo8uk685 3 года назад

hes talking about what hes added to the chassis i see kind of wjat hes done haha

@justinjones5281 3 года назад

He has a foam pad underneath to force the air over the car. Essentially you need the least amount of space between the ground and the chassis. An easier way is to just put a foam splitter on the front but if the car gets a draft or turns slightly the sides get exposed and your airborne

@hareshpersaud6732 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC where did u buy the 3s lipo battery?

@gunvsgun3707 2 года назад

I am 14 yrs old I have just boughtt the exact same car and I also want to make it as fast as your car and also I think it will be a fun project 😄can't wait

@TomleyRC 2 года назад

Awesome! Good luck 🤞🏻

@gunvsgun3707 2 года назад

@@TomleyRC do u have any tips for me?

@gunvsgun3707 2 года назад

@@TomleyRC I just wana make it a bit faster 76mph same as yours nothing to much really and it's my first ever car I'm modifying hopefully it will go well 🤞🤞🤞😂

@kickingforchrist 3 года назад

Luv that sound of an RC blasting by!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Me too 😎

@stormycannon8904 2 года назад

I think wltoys is growing on me really like that they keep trying for a better machine, seems like it’s going to be on my line of Rc .

@christopherbautista6998 3 года назад

Wow!Congrats on your new pb!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks dude

@semperatis 3 года назад

I'd certainly think about going to a 45-50 C discharge battery Phil,that may just give you the extra punch that you need.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Got a 5000mah 50c that I've managed to fit... just need the weather now!

@semperatis 3 года назад

This should be interesting to see Phil.

@michaelcrutchfield6773 2 года назад

I've watched this video over a year ago and just picked up one of these at a flea market in the states today....its a riot 😳

@rcpete7055 3 года назад

I like the mods 💪🇬🇧 It looks awesome clear 👍 I like seeing the gubbins😎

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, has a cool look to it... I have sone plans for the paint this time

@JesseBMotors 3 года назад

Congrats on the Pb 👍🏁

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks dude... i was pretty pleased with that

@Macgyver46 3 года назад

Ok I have honestly tried to figure it out. What does PB stand for?

@Nackenzi 3 года назад

@@Macgyver46 personal best

@27mmb27 3 года назад

The ovonic 3s 2200 fits into the 144001 and its 50c so should fit

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers dude... will actually look at getting that for the 144... I've got a 5000 50c for this now

@frasersteen 3 года назад

There should be some quad racing batteries in the right size. HobbyRC or UnmannedTech are both great. Quad racers are severely bottlenecked by the lipos and run current and voltage telemetry in the on screen display. They KNOW what works or they just can't keep up with the pack. There's plenty of battery testing done on the quad packs too so it's pretty objective.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers dude... will look in to it. I've manage to do a few mods and can now get a 5000mah 50c under there... the peak Amps on that is well above what my motor needs.

@frasersteen 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Who needs Cs when you've got capacity? Always worth looking at the other RC disciplines for inspiration I find. Car peeps are all mechanics, plane peeps are all aero engineers and quad peeps are electronic engineers. Heli people are just insane.

@DriftomaniacsRC 3 года назад

Well done on the new PB, I've been playing around with the timing and as you advance it, it seems to come alive at the very top end, just when you think it's maxed out if seems to come alive. That's what I've found. Only getting into the 'power band' at the higher revs. Also the low turn rocket motors can take out the esc when on 2-3s...more to follow

@robsrcinsanity1220 3 года назад

Completely shared in your excitement! Great job! I'm pushing for 100mph with a 1/10th scale kyosho hellcat so I completely understand the emotions! Keep pushing, I'm pulling for you! 👍🍻

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers Rob... getting there! I’m sure by the Summer I’ll be in to the 100 club

@robsrcinsanity1220 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC Here’s to 100! 🍻

@robertowens7771 3 месяца назад

Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!! That mother is moving

@WheelsRC 3 года назад

That's looking fast mate. And mostly under control.😁

@sustorres765 3 года назад

Great episode dude, nice little burn up congrats on the PB! 🤩👌

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks dude

@johncampbell4747 3 года назад

Blinkin flip! Thats bloody rapid

@gords1001 3 года назад

I'd guess the speed controller may be overheating and throttling back to save itself, once it cools off a bit, it lets rip again. Don't forget, not only did you remove the fan, but you're making an attempt to still the air inside the body to stop parachuting. My old Yokomo mr4-bc used the exact same method to hold the body shell to the chassis. The 10T single I had in there used to destroy esc's and there were no actively cooled esc's at the time (roughly 15 years ago).

@MCsCreations 3 года назад

Pretty impressive little car, dude! 😃 Fantastic job moding it!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers dude

@bodgeandbashrc3468 3 года назад

Awesome speed gains! That things a wee beastie, good job 👍

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, getting there!

@dennishill2343 10 месяцев назад

I've ordered a 124019 and hopefully it will be here by Saturday, mostly based on your videos, till then, I've been watching you tube videos to learn and get some ideas, but I have an unrelated question for you. So in the speed runs on you tube why do they keep the rear spoiler, because of motor weight you don't need weight in the back plus torque would tend to lift the front end, it seems like you would get rid of the rear spoiler, lower the front end and find a body that blocks the air from getting under the car causing it to take off, widen those car body posts to spread the downforce. Sorry about the late question, new to RC. Like your videos

@cerberusscalenrccars8889 3 года назад

This keeps getting better and better every time!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes... getting there!

@stephenhogston7394 3 года назад

Great video buddy, my spectrum firma 120amp arrived today so going to start the build tomorrow, then wait for ec5 to ec3 adapters for it I'll post some pictures on Facebook

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Awesome stuff :)

@rcworxshop 3 года назад

FAIR PLAY!! man you got that thing shifting 👍🏻👍🏻

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, getting there!

@mrrcgta8178 3 года назад

Love this. Great idea on a budget Speed Run car. i'm currently building a (budget)1/8th trike for a speed run. Same ESC but 5.5 motor.

@luissimoes8106 3 года назад

Phil, great work in the sub chassi frame ( it's notable how steady it goes); mate, the mesh is amazingly smooth 👌 Still, if I'm not mistaken that motor can draw about 115 amps so I think definitely the batteries aren't the proper ones (you got about 105 amps available), and I think the ESC is heating because of that; I mean it's 120 capable...very "tie" for the 115 of the motor and it's just impossible for it to delivery 115 amps to the motor due to batteries 🤔 Regarding the speed variation there's a chance of being a pack release, though they use not to be so "long"...🤔 Can't wait for the next ... battery pack 😆👌👌👌

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yes, it is right on the limit. New Lipo to try and then a better ESC

@anmwolfrc159 3 года назад

For that scale of wlroys ur moss are rally feast bro

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, really good speed!

@ruflasto1 3 года назад

Nice PB..She is moving now bro..love it.

@strexttp 3 года назад

It is very speed !! Excellent !! ✌️😊

@jspence3798 3 года назад

The up n down performance is that quicrun Phil. I’ve two and my mate has one and they’ve never given consistent output. I gave up using them and went to a 120a sct but that’s a bigger esc obvs.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers dude.... this could be the reply I was looking for. I have another option, so will first try and different lipo (5000 mah 50c) and then switch the ESC

@jspence3798 3 года назад

If you try that esc in a heavier car the effect comes on much more obviously. The 60a has no problems strangely 😂

@oscar-go5py 3 года назад

Can you try a rhino battery there dirt cheap and they come with 3s and 4s 50c

@aljensen7779 3 года назад

Well done, Phil. 85mph!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thank Al.... hopefully more to come!

@jameswilliamson8125 2 года назад

Love your videos wish I could mail you my Amp crush I made it super fast on the cheap.Thanks for all you do

@gbraadnl 3 года назад

Fun cars; gave some bigger wheels to the 124018 i got for crazy offroading, but now foam tires and brushless for my 19 and do a speedrun ;-)

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Love how affordable these are to run at this speed. Awesome stuff!

@j.j.rcrawler8051 3 года назад

Good. Video 💪💪💪

@davidturner2365 3 года назад

That is cool

@mehimrc1314 3 года назад

I see you may have a plate underneath weighting the car down,just a random assumption of course haha. Nice to see 85mph hit uk soil on still crap damp roads. I see good things in the up coming months. Watch for the Raptor

@mehimrc1314 3 года назад

@@toolbaggers I must of missed the plastic part being seen. Sorry BRO

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, plastic rather than metal... version 2 should be better

@geantuckfield6520 3 года назад

Yea a good 2 pole motor and 120c battery

@nickrobertson2450 3 года назад

I have notice the same behaviour on the HW 10BL120. Had one in a TT02B that would intermittently stop doing the burst & only run on half power. Never got to the bottom of it. Put it down to poor quality control & stuck it in the spares box for a later date.

@Del350K4 3 года назад

Well done, Phil - this is great!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

One of my most enjoyable projects. I have a really fast motor and ESC for it... but it's fun trying different stuff out

@Del350K4 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC I could tell you must have been enjoying yourself as you stayed out there long after losing all feeling in your hands! But yes, it´s more fun to reach for success bit by bit than to order a load of parts, bolt them all on and reach the magic "ton" on the first attempt.

@joski9030 3 года назад

Jesus that’s quick !

@EugeneRCDrezgalovo48rus 3 года назад

Very nice 👍👍👍

@bongofury3176 3 года назад

Looks pretty planted. Am enjoying your 'just having fun' style. My PB is 75mph with a modded SC10...

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

75 is s decent speed! I think once you start getting too serious, it take some of the fun out of it.

@bongofury3176 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC So true - the fun is everything. I had a vision of 100mph RC on land, sea and air...managed it in the air with big warbirds, managed it on the water with a large scratch built V Hull (scarey !) but gave up on land at 75mph. Moved on to crawling, drifting and quads. I've ben RC crawling in the Derbyshire Peaks since the first HSP 1/8th crawler came out (6 years ago?). Have fun

@MauzyrockRC 3 года назад

YES! don’t give it all up on the first date ;)

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Exactly... so much more to come from this!

@RichB07 3 года назад

That is so awesome !!!

@carloshnunez 3 года назад

Good job it is hard to see it on the camera maybe if you paint it red or yellow will be more visible at that speed

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, needs some day glow 😅

@modelnutty6503 3 года назад

you did it! 140 MPH !! (but only if you live in China)

@modelnutty6503 3 года назад

PS: make a "nose cone" that bolts where the front bumper would go, for a little down force up front and to "hide" 2/3 of the front shocks. shocks and plate are flat vertical frontal surface area. if you go wide with it you could do same for a lot of the area of the front tires.. Indy and F1 run like that same reasons.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Hahahaha... that’s what the box would say!

@modelnutty6503 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC also, maybe just look to slapping a 1/12 scale GTP type body onto it instead, they're probably about right for the wheelbase and track.

@venture7o7 Год назад

Would you still recommend this build in 2023? I also have a 124019 and just ordered the wheels you recommended, and considering getting the rest of the items from links you provided.

@robertredzich7292 3 года назад

When I get the time I've got two of these to tinker with. Meanwhile I'm going to speed school with you and a few others. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Sounds good 😎

@benjimandover8072 3 года назад

It's the esc....you need to install some capacity packs for that extra blast...😁👍👍👍

@krisstoney6892 3 года назад

Phat Bodies Atak body kit looks so nice on this one and the schumacher foams, I have 2 of those bodies and the rims for WL Toys 144001. Your red 144001 inspired me to get them. Was after a Traxxas rustler spoiler so cheap did you cut the hole with a drill Tomley? Great video mate.

@speedrunner8356 3 года назад

Nice build lock the rear shocks to stop her lifting

@choke666 3 года назад

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, WANTING TO KEEP SOME SECRETS TO YOURSELF?!!!? THE NERVE I SAY!! AWESOME CAR, I THINK I FINALLY GOTTA GET 1 !!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Hahahaha

@islandrc-duke1972 3 года назад

Awesome speed runs,cool video,awesome RC

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Thanks dude

@islandrc-duke1972 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC 👍✌😃

@madmack4987 3 года назад

Now with those upgrades can you still us the original transmitter and receivers

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

No ... you need a new one

@loganlexow 3 года назад

OMG all these speed runs with that rig are making me giddy 🤣!

@RCOverKill 3 года назад

I laid my escs on thier side facing out, they fit great.

@kodak_jack 3 года назад

For everybody doing speed runs on these, I can’t understand how the diff gears are holding up because they’re crappy pot metal. Give it a look and see how they’re holding up, will you?

@dominicpsn 3 года назад

Ah, the classic Schrödinger's Diff

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I strip mine down, grease and shim if needed

@davidtruelove5022 3 года назад

@@dominicpsn what does that mean?

@dominicpsn 3 года назад

@@davidtruelove5022 silly reference to Schrödinger's Cat, the Diff is both fine and destroyed but you can't tell unless you open it 😂

@getoutmecar2940 3 года назад

I love the body clear

@lightningdad13 3 года назад

that many high speed passes plus a crash and no fire is absolutely crazy impressive. just found your channel. awesome job 🏎💨💯

@camrowdrone6497 3 года назад

85 mph,almost there 👊🏻👍🏻

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah... getting closer!

@fuzion1094 3 года назад

I have the same esc, its lipo cutoff is too sensitive. It reduces the power when the voltage fluctuates, try turning down or turning off the cutoff voltage.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I’ll give that a try. 😎👌

@davidtruelove5022 3 года назад

Yep. ESC cut off. Try 2S

@ikhsanvibep1521 3 года назад

Wow, i have same reaction like u in beginning of the video...

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Haha

@06madmartin 3 года назад

Maybe the fan is needed to cool her off maybe its throttling back but I'm guessing lol

@RCModSquad 3 года назад

So far so good. Good luck mate! 🍀🍀

@Cannabis_Connoisseur 3 года назад

Are you trying to do this 100mph goal on stuff you already have or on the cheap?? Seems like you'd throw a 7000kv+ castle system in it and a 1500mah 4s protek 120c battery that cost around 50 usd. Could find it all used for around 200 maybe less with a little luck.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

I mentioned in the first video... I like to learn along the way. I have a Castle system sat on the shelf... but want to try a few things first to get the best out of it 😎👌

@skipperstan 3 года назад

I know the secret! You are running it on Jelly Babies! Great video as always Tomley, that little car really shifts!

@jamesarneson7769 3 года назад

Holly shet that car is FAST!

@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC 3 года назад

Sweet man!! 👍👍👊🏁

@DepressedDad316 3 года назад

I can't wait to order mine at the end of the month

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

You'll enjoy it mate

@DepressedDad316 3 года назад

I'm sure I will it be my second rc 😂

@ericmcilyar5817 3 года назад

Just bought some zeee batteries 2200mah 120c graphen. Small and powerful, maybe a option. P.S. just ordered 2 rustler wings. Lol.

@SharkysGarageRCandMore 3 года назад

This might be the 100mph answer 120c.... Nice. Where did you get them from ??

@ericmcilyar5817 3 года назад

@@SharkysGarageRCandMore Ebay

@danielemulazzi1615 3 года назад

Woww...un missile... bel video... ciao Tomley

@theguyinthecomments9543 3 года назад

😲 that's like putting a Ferrari engine in a ford.. I love it

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Haha very true!

@luisgonzaga2297 3 года назад

Hey, haven’t watched you for a while since we had online school, im back😅

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Welcome back dude

@lukedeshano8416 3 года назад

I love your channel man!!! Keep it up!!! And when you figure out what that power fluctuation problem please let us know because my 144001 has been doing the same and I haven't been able to figure it out.

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Cheers Luke

@jeffthomas7383 3 года назад

Nice! Just bought a Rustler wing 😂 Hammer with Rustler wing looks Awesome!

@geantuckfield6520 3 года назад

Get a esc with boost and timing for that 4.5t. You well get over 100

@coquirc4537 3 года назад

Well i wasn't going to pull the trigger on this car because im still working on my very first 144001, actually thats my first car in 25 years😳. Buuuut @me him rc refered me over here to watch your Corally Radix 6 review. Well i pulled the trigger so now i have the working progress 144001, 124019 in the mail, and the 104001 on pre order. Have my hands full now right! Love the Radix 6, once i play with the 3 above for a bit im going to pull the trigger on Radix 6. Pulling in this week i also have the Hobbywing EZRUN Max10 60a with the 3652 400kv motor. Not sure what im putting that in yet. Anyways great job on your vids! Definetly will be watching more reviews here! Rock on!

@MatthewSimm 3 года назад

Glad your happy with that body, I just ordered one, I just got my 4.5t v10 g3 hobbywing in which I plan to over power to 4s 😳😳🤣🤣

@athomewiththeandersons231 3 года назад

That's fast can't wait until you hit 100

@balsamicvin9935 3 года назад

I think you need some mgm escs and a 3500 kv tp motor running on 15 s. This thing will then fly.

@balsamicvin9935 3 года назад

I know this wont fit, this is just a joke! 😂😂

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

hahahahaha, I'd need a trailer!

@RandomloserDK 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC 🤔Worlds fastest rc trailer...

@traibeaudet3089 3 года назад

Try the flux 3.5 turn motor that will get you probably passed 100

@jeffv2074 Год назад

Impressive

@edly1810 3 года назад

Holy molly 85? Thts very fast... Yha a bit weird huh... Tht burst in sudden..

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, good speed... I think the ESC may be the problem

@009ADVENTURES 3 года назад

closer to it now bud 👍

@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide 3 года назад

Excellent mate, getting closer and yep rock solid, cant see my maverick strada getting close, even on the 4s lipo

@rccartv898 3 года назад

Good video😃😃💯💯👍👍

@rcpete7055 3 года назад

Cannot buy the spoiler anywhere? Without paying ridiculous postage from 🇺🇸.. Do u have a link please Phil 🙏

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

www.applianceelectronics.co.uk/viewproduct/17513/traxxas-rustler-4x4-wing-black-trx6721 😎

@rctaz990 3 года назад

Awesome

@avarmauk 2 года назад

Would adding skirts to increase the ground effect help?

@pb-bx1ll 3 года назад

Congrats on pb!!

@westcoastrider3008 3 года назад

Higher c rating, more dump more bump!

@TomleyRC 3 года назад

Yeah, got a 5000mah 50c to try next

@westcoastrider3008 3 года назад

@@TomleyRC the 5000 mah will wiegh more, might counter the bump. Think like a drone, highest c rate in the smallest mah rating. You might only get one or two full speed passes, but that's ok on the quest for 100mph. 1000-1500mah, I put a 65c 2000 in wltoys 120724 (the green one lol) so fast its crazy, 12 turn 60amp, 5 mins of hard play befor it dies