Smilodon populator, could he kill a horse? 

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Could have made a cast of the model and made a gelatin replica.

I think that's because most sources available to the general public theorize that they preyed on MUCH larger prey like Giant Ground Sloths and Mastodons (I just watched a video that said exactly that right before this one.) and because museums very rarely display the skulls in a fully open position. There does not appear to be room between the upper and lower teeth to bite anything larger than a lemon from most images commonly available.

They probably scavenged bullied others off kills. But then why have such massive teeth? With the prey struggling and moving you would think the teeth would break.

it definitely could do that if the sabers of a smilodon fatalis are capable of going through a dire wolf skull, and fatalis's canines werent as thick as populators

Oh that’s in the works! The most terrible cat there ever was, cat x bear x bull shark. #notforcuttingcookies

@@smerjeevski 😎 nice

@@smerjeevski A shark bearcat. xD

That would be terrifying to witness, imagine modern safari-style documentary and it shows the Xeno butchering animals 😱😱

@@mishkosimonovski23 I know right

Thank you! The skull came from prehistoric store.com

@@smerjeevski awesome chanel once again 👌

@@smerjeevski is this skull a replica of the one found uruguay around 2 years ago that was 392 mm in length, or is this a completely different specimen, just curious And also, what was the mandible length of this 15.5 inch skull

Yes

No,tigers rarely ever kill an adult bulll gaur.

@@nhenha5000 In a study conducted by Karanth & Sunquist in 1995 observing 83 Tiger kills in Nagarahole NP, the second most common prey of Tigers were Gaurs.

@@nhenha5000 And among all the Gaurs killed by Tigers, 41% of all Gaurs were adult male bulls.

You are not understanding the argument. It's not a question of brute force, it's simply that it doesn't appear, in the vast majority of displays and photos of Smilodon skulls, that there is enough space between the upper and lower jaws to bite large prey animals... even on the throat. It's probably because they rarely show the replica jaws at full extension.

No, it was not

@kahanuermeyas-tulu4056 you sure about that?

By the throat yes of course

Possibly did both. Look at African lions, they squeeze the throat or they'll cover the nose and mouth to suffocate. If the prey was moving and running around then it would be too dangerous to try and sink those teeth. It would have to wait until it had the animal stable to bite it. So it's likely they used that walrus type headbutt to stab the pray in the neck, to bleed it out a bit or damage the airway. The size of the pray was also a big factor. All cats have their own way of killing, they'd have figured out what works. What's crazy is knowing that these cats weren't biting the big pray at all to bring them down...at least not until couldn't move and was about to collapse. Lions get on top and bite the legs and throat and these cats can't do that. They'd have to wear the animal down and push it over with their massive shoulders. Still, these teeth and T-Rex arms still have me scratching my head.

he said prehistoric store, its the 2nd largest specimen of a populator found so far

Try Skulls Unlimited they claim to have S. populator for $325 that's seems rather low in cost but make sure it's actually from a cast of that species as I have seen sellers mistake S. populator casts with S. fatalis as the later cast are very plentiful and once they change hands it often confused to species. Find out the origin of the cast manufacturer and what scientific institute the cast originated to verify actual accuracy. A reputable dealer should know an accurate history of the cast manufacture and scientific origin. Ask questions.

not really, smilodon even though it was shorter in body length its bones were thicker than the american lions bones or any other cats bones, they were proportionally even more thick than the humerus and femur of brown bears

@@21LAZgoo True but the American line was also the size of a brown bear

@@tyrannotherium7873 what is an american line Oh nvm It did weigh as much as some brown bears, although pound for pound it wasn’t as strong as them And it depends a lot on which type of brown bear youre saying, some brown bears are around 500-600 pounds like the inland ones which the american lion at max is heavier than, and others like the kodiak bears which can weigh up to 1500 which is more than any cat that has ever existed including populator

@@21LAZgoo I meant to say American lion

@@21LAZgoo Eight trucks was not even 500 to 600 it was even more than that

I thought this exact same hypothesis, only because of the relatively small jawbone and it would leave the cat in a bad spot if it got stuck with its teeth caught in the prey. But there are species of saber tooth where the jaw bone fully protects the teeth in the closed mouth position, so thst cat would have to open fully to kill prey.

it would be a good comparison, american lions had bigger skulls

@@21LAZgoo yeah they were huge mate

@@tayabhanif6574 yup american lions were massive especially the largest ones, a cat that weighs as much as 2 brian shaws is pretty crazy

@@21LAZgoo they were practically double the size of the modern lions

@@tayabhanif6574 true, 830 pounds is pretty much twice the size of a modern lion

I thought the other way around

@@lukeiamnotyourfatheranymore no Not really it would make sense really because since it had like knives on it or in this case sabers on its teeth it’s a quicker death

Yes, Hippidion & Equus

I would not be surprised in the least saber cats evolved specifically to kill horses and/or animals that are in the horse's niche like a camel type animal. I know that South America had some weird looking animal that looked like a camel with a trunk.... basically, it had a reasonably long neck like a horse so if you specialized in killing horses, transitioning to this animal would be pretty simple to do as a specialized predator.

Dietary isotope studies from intertropical Brazil determined Smilodon hunted wild horse (Equus neogeus) alongside camelids and xenarthrans. Further south in Chilean Patagonia, similar evidence points towards sabrecat having hunted Hippidion (with additional feeding on Mylodon, Macrauchenia and rhea).

I did not know there were horses around in South America

Is it also possible that they could’ve hunted camien

Exactly, Machirodont canines, even in the casts, retain a sharpness along the edges. Panthera has the same ridges but on much smaller and more conical canines. In Populator the canine is thicker than those of the Siberian tiger. Plus the immense length. In some instances the biting could have been continuous and prolonged but in the case of a neck bite on prey, the teeth are fully capable of slash/ripping right through.

@@smerjeevski you should do a softer, more penetrable version of that horse cast, to see the procedure in action, thatd be really cool