SMITE: How Deathwalker BROKE Solo Lane | Mystical Mail + Vanguard Build

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In SMITE's recent gauntlet, Deathwalker basically revolutionized the current solo lane build meta by introducing Mark of the Vanguard + Mystical Mail as a staple build. This video explains why Mystical Mail suddenly came back, why it's so strong and how the items work.
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@somaoni8806 7 лет назад

Come on, who the hell cares about how Deathwalker broke Solo with Mystical Mail, I want to hear about the Ah Puch solo!

@xiii0722 7 лет назад

Haha

@Jormyyy 7 лет назад

christian oneill I NEED TO KNOW HOW THAT WENT I MISSED IT

@Jormyyy 7 лет назад

christian oneill aaaaand I just read the description lol

@danhou1278 7 лет назад

I've actually seen it quite often by the hand of iCreedX he is from PAP1S on ranked and it goes pretty well

@ArcaneFiasta 7 лет назад

It want pretty well the ah puch only dies once and he wa beating the nike in solo lane but they sill lost.

@joanymcdweeb8411 7 лет назад

Who cares about Mystical Mail, we wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch?

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

PSA: You building JUST Mystical Mail in solo is NOT the same thing as combining it with Vanguard and has a super horrible power curve in comparison. There's a reason pros didn't rush Mystical Mail before. I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT ABOUT USING MYSTICAL MAIL, THIS IS ABOUT COMBINING MARK OF THE VANGUARD AND MYSTICAL MAIL! The mind behind this was 99% certainly RivalJackal or DeathWalker himself. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp for some 🐒s. Update: What I expected to happen eventually is already happening in the SPL right now: In the 2nd Obey vs NRG match, maniaKK on Herc (vs Dimi's Osiris) started Mark of the Vanguard instead of Bluestone Pendant and then went into Mystical Mail right after boots. Update 2: Also my bad for the item placement, forgot a little step there and didn't notice when skimming through the vid.

@LunkLanguage 7 лет назад

I've built and seen this built many times in diamond, it's incredibly important to note it's only good when ahead

@HighHatOG 7 лет назад

Ronald Ray Gun that's because if you know you're gonna be Frontlining and in people's faces the whole time, mystical mail is a great pick up.

@LunkLanguage 7 лет назад

yes definitely puts in alot of work in the harassment department

@HighHatOG 7 лет назад

Ronald Ray Gun i love it on Bellona especially. i play extremely aggressive and i think it works really well. i haven't built it on Osiris before tho, do you think it works well with him too?

@LunkLanguage 7 лет назад

High Hat assumably it could but it really depends on your confidence in the laning phase and if you can justify building it over other safer options

@HighHatOG 7 лет назад

Ronald Ray Gun osiris, ravan, bellona, and erlang I am pretty confident. I'm not a solo main by far but I still find the lane very fun. If I face a really good / experienced solo laner they can usually beat me but I am a teamfight monster and that is really where I excel, not in lane.

@Friendly_T_Girl 7 лет назад

That feeling when mystical mail and mark of the vanguard have been staples in your build for quite the time but you hate ranked so no one cares :c

@rudygaray4326 7 лет назад

Alex Meggoe You mean Try hards and trolls along with DC's And players who pick roles that their absolutely shit at

@xiii0722 7 лет назад

same .... :o

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Even if you built it in ranked, noone would care. For things to become meta, the have to be proven to work successfully on Pro level, meaning in the SPL, Gauntlet or at least Challenger Cup.

@orrinkennedy7549 7 лет назад

They have been staple for me since season 2. So you're not the only one.

@theenergystation1295 7 лет назад

I know that feel man

@totallynotcameron8259 7 лет назад

Duke! you forgot to mention that Mystic procs are magical damage which will completely ignore the physical defence built by solo laners!

@Zefo_No 7 лет назад

It's actually a really weird interaction because, as a warrior, your opponent can't counter build it but, you yourself can't increase its potency because you can't get magical penetration.

@somaoni8806 7 лет назад

Totally Not Cameron wait... really? That's amazing I should do that when I play as most of my solo liners, not including Bluestone WuKong.

@luisa3447 7 лет назад

Zefo No not unless you're a guardian solo laner

@Zefo_No 7 лет назад

well yeah, as a guardian you get void stone and do a lot more damage. The point is that it's a warrior vs warrior meta all of a sudden right now and mystical works pretty weird in that situation.

@darianbeilby6867 7 лет назад

vanguard counters it to an extent but its still really effective

@INFERN0FIRE 7 лет назад

As a vamana player, I love seeing mystical mail in solo in my enemies build. It makes Vamana's ult so much better! ;)

@GypsyHarlow 7 лет назад

Infernofire or... or... hear me out, we just walk away from you. Played against too many Vamanas, can tell you this, still out clear, and out rotate.

@michoppen 7 лет назад

lol, if you've been out clearing Vamanas past lvl 6, you've been playing against some sh*t Vamanas.

@ashra8281 5 лет назад

@@michoppen have you not been playing against a herc? Bellona? Or just any bully? Because he kinda sucks

@michoppen 5 лет назад

Bellona can be a rough matchup, but Herc isn't bad. Vamana still outclears most lane opponents and it's hard to fight into a full wave as a god with bad clear.

@michoppen 5 лет назад

Also, context is important. This video and my post are both from about a year ago, and a lot has changed since then.

@MilkshakeArcanine 7 лет назад

Been building this on Chaac since like season 2. Seen it plenty as well from other players. Just because he used it in SPL doesnt mean he revolutionized it, he just shown a spotlight on an already popular build.

@michoppen 7 лет назад

I've been a fan of it since season one, but what changed is that due to a new specific build order it's better than it's been since its last nerf. It's been pretty rough to make successful for a while now, the fact that he's able to make it consistently successful, is what's "revolutionary".

@MrJSarcasm 7 лет назад

I used this build back when SWK was a solo lane king

@Zefo_No 7 лет назад

Bring back Sun Wo King!

@Keres8096 7 лет назад

Jake Hilton PLEASE HES SO IRRELEVANT NOW, I'd like to see higher heals and more agressive slow on his two, I think both are reasonable.

@nathanielhildebrand9481 7 лет назад

can't wait for 4.8 :))))))))))))))))))))))

@GreenMunkeeD 7 лет назад

Crit on his 1? What? :D

@scalpingsnake 7 лет назад

dunno if you want to but could you do a video on how the gamemodes (and maps) differ. like conquest compared to joust what gods/comps are viable. It would be a good topic for beginners and maybe even more advanced players will learn something.

@darianbeilby6867 7 лет назад

i can get behind this

@nocgenius5255 7 лет назад

scalpingsnake no, beginners should learn conq, and even more advanced players condtantly need to learn the game

@coopnhtown 7 лет назад

Hacienth Thomas your comment seems contradicting. You learn from watching players better than you (for the most part) and then some from experimenting for yourself and watching videos. It would be terrible if there was no videos or streams explaining these type of things. the community would be filled with clueless people. Unlike traditional sports, most people don't have a coach so they have to learn from somewhere.

@diegosaenz4505 7 лет назад

scalpingsnake Umm azureblaze has a couple of videos in ranked joust recommended team comp and builds. Duke a theory crafter and loves conquest just like most dualist prefer their content to be on duel.

@thatoneweirdbish6364 7 лет назад

5:04 That Play tho, holy moly!

@Vychorion 7 лет назад

damn...really good build indeed...gonna try it next time i fill as solo

@Zefo_No 7 лет назад

Good luck, Solo has been first pick for a while now.

@Mr-ubs 7 лет назад

Zefo No Noooooo that's my main role and I refuse it be overran by newbies wanting more to try out this risky but good build

@Vychorion 7 лет назад

My main roll is Fill so i play whatever is left...not so strange all my guardian are highly mastered

@Seven-bl1xk 7 лет назад

Marcus McKinney It's a good thing. These young bloods don't understand Solo that well so we get to have fun with them

@NovaNinja22 7 лет назад

hey I just wanted to drop a thank you. Your channel brings all the pro theory and makes it easy for average people to understand. I subscribed for videos just like these and you haven't made one yet that I didn't learn from. Keep up the good work :)

@luft9365 7 лет назад

That Cernnunos... totally not me :D GG

@DexiduousRose 4 года назад

OK, shut up then.

@TTV.MoraiZuko 7 лет назад

ayyy I'm the Hun Batz and Merc in the vid! :D nice video as always btw Duke!

@Raphoovvv 7 лет назад

BruhImGud aren't you in the smite scrim community from rexsi. I swear that I've seen your name before.

@TTV.MoraiZuko 7 лет назад

Yeah I'm in Rexsi's scrim community, the name in it is ErenSk

@gabrielcorbo6663 7 лет назад

With the masters LAN I'm sure there are a lot of topics to discuss but one that I think may be very interesting is the interaction between executioner and titan's bane and just how inefective is having both in a hunter build and if lategame they are still worth even with this interaction

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Video on that coming soon, the questions seems to come up a lot atm!

@Anthony-dn1sq 7 лет назад

2:24 that Janus lol

@gon55-1 7 лет назад

hey duke, that janus at 2:26 though hahaha

@kahntrast 7 лет назад

Mystical Mail used to be a staple second item for solo laners in Season 2. If you didn't build it, you'd lose lane. It got nerfed when Hi-Rez did the whole HP/Defense split in items, and wasn't really picked up again.

@ShapeshifterOS 7 лет назад

Omg this build kicks so much ass!!! Even fought off Ganesha and Arachne at the same time! First time using this with Executioner and Frostbound Hammer, came out top in damage and tanking in all categories. Rofl!!!

@TheNtz88 7 лет назад

want to point out that with bellona's rise to power along with mystical mail, the best counter should be osiris since he has mitigating dmg in the passive and is one of the few gods who can trade with bellona early without losing wave, hopefully maniakk will pull one nasty osiris vs deathwalker

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Osiris is already seeing a LOT of play as it stands.

@nathanielhildebrand9481 7 лет назад

The only large oversight in this video is how important to the build it is that Mystical Mail deals Magical damage. In solo lane against the "previous" meta, when rushing a physical breastplate item, be it Nemean, Valor, or even Spectral, there is no hp gain during and after that item is built; once Mystical is finished, that magical damage is going to be a massive boon when trading into your opponent who, at best, has t1 pestilence finished at that point. This is one of the key reasons why it's so strong at bullying out your opponent, and if that aura was physical damage, i think everyone would agree that it wouldn't have come to dominate the solo lane meta

@quan.iittooo 7 лет назад

@DukeSloth, Currently Watching the Obey Vs Rival , Twig on serqet got watchers after boots, What are your thoughts on this??

@AliDableh 7 лет назад

Who cares about Mystical Mail, we wanna see Deathwalker's build in solo, also his Ah Puch

@inrisd3704 7 лет назад

Solo's job is to bully and through bullying, give the enemy less options. If you do the math, mystical mail is great. It's got really high offensive potential and effective health. Everyone should get Forge for Smite and look up the equations for effective damage and health. Once you actually sit down and look at builds, you realise some crazy shit.

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Forge has EHP now? FeelsGoodMan, time to check that out again

@inrisd3704 7 лет назад

It doesn't unfortunately. I just have the equations in the notes on my phone. Sorry I phrased it poorly.

@ballcadeias1933 7 лет назад

I like how these items are always on Bellona's head and this looks like as if these items fight against that solo laners

@haven4304 7 лет назад

I honestly thought that Deathwalker was a new item that was not included in the patch notes and got patched in

@familyfinatial1257 6 лет назад

Same

@greyhat7993 7 лет назад

Mystical Mail meta is easier to counter than you might think. Buy magical protection to counter the aura damage (which is magical). If enemy solo is a warrior, the only item for physicals that grants magic pen is Hastened Fatalis (which most warrior solos won't build anyways). Or, if enemy magics buy Void Stone, Spear of the Magus, or have any other protection reduction. Also, Mark of the Vanguard itself counters Mystical Mail. Reducing the tick damage by 5 along with mitigation from magical protection would minimize the impact. Characters with % damage mitigation (Bacchus, Cabrakan, Osiris, etc.) or simply bonus protections (Bellona, Tyr, Fafnir) combined with these other points render Mystical Mail much less viable than expected.

@greyhat7993 7 лет назад

Tom Danner I didn't say buy magical protection first just to counter MM...as a frontliner, you're building it anyway. Just saying that having those protections at some point (along with damage reduction) will do that on its own.

@angelichorror2832 7 лет назад

Me personally my new solo starter is tier 2 stone of gaia. it gives so much health and its cheap. Your basically unkillable early game. Plus you save money on potions for wards. I have not used a starter item in solo in a very long time

@brokeassgaming1408 7 лет назад

I had this idea for my support build and my solo weeks ago but by the time I could afford vanguard with potions I would need boots . The idea came from seeing the mid double starter . If only vanguard was 100 gold less

@just_2swift 7 лет назад

last time I was this early pro overwatch players weren't racist.

@Madman3721 7 лет назад

just_2swift your comment and profile picture goes so well together

@just_2swift 7 лет назад

Madman3721 that's true lol love Marvin

@phunk115 7 лет назад

străine hello from Romania(first word means stranger BTW ,god damn auto-correct) thanks for the info really helped me out just subbed xD

@jwberry23 7 лет назад

Deathwalkers Ah Puch

@amanbhardwaj5542 7 лет назад

I am here after seeing Deathwalker Ares in solo lane against variety Bellona and he won. He burned bellona and chained her to death, really he lives to his name.

@ArginArgin 7 лет назад

6:50 dodges a teammate's portal lol and 9:02

@danc6167 7 лет назад

is there going to be a vid on AP solo? I've always loved playing him in solo and bullying out obnoxious Tyrs and Herculeses

@FlameHashiraAries 7 лет назад

thanks for explaining why

@Cryphnx 7 лет назад

"Who cares about Mystical Mail, we wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch?"

@zoelagoblina3138 7 лет назад

deathwalkers cabraken warriors stash today was cool too

@zoelagoblina3138 7 лет назад

Warlocks Sash*

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Yeah that was super interesting, especially his t2 breastplate start (that he didn't finish)

@coopnhtown 7 лет назад

Theodore Roosevelt One of my most played gods and most built god is cabrakan. warlocks is amazing on him. he melts with 60 stacks or more. insane.

@basicallymoises1200 7 лет назад

wow that's funny yet so true i build tank hou yi with lonos( later mantle) mark of the vanguard amd mystical mel, shifters sheild, brestplate and well went 21 and 4 like it's crazy

@japangator 7 лет назад

I feel that Guardians in the Solo Lane might render this build route a bit ineffective just because it forces the enemy to build magical defense

@themasterzilla 7 лет назад

wrong i was legit the only one who us3 mystical mail since s3

@Joon2903 7 лет назад

I was stomping on a Ama as a Ama and went 3-1. She went the deathwalker build while i went bluestone, spirit robes and frosthammer etc. Once she finished mystical mail, she bullied me so hard.

@marcblack960 7 лет назад

you said that most ability-based solo laners went for breastplate of valor 3rd item. You then forgot to mention that mystical mail's aura damage is magical, and therefor counters physical defence

@cakeslapping8657 7 лет назад

Do you think this way of building MotV and mystical mail would be effective for guardians in solo lane too, or nah?

@UndeadOctogon 7 лет назад

Is that a SCARCE DOUBLE UPLOAD?!??!?1?

@punkneverdie5590 7 лет назад

I think ability based gods can still be efficient, problem is you have to find a quick CDR item and then build Mystical. But yeah, MoV in Solo will screw Bluestone-dependant characters, that's for sure.

@vlekk. 7 лет назад

8:00 Ok!

@platypuspenguin 7 лет назад

Duke sloth is my dad and can't get his description right

@rop5685 7 лет назад

When i play Ymir i always start with mark of the vanguard and go for a bruiser build

@Knightslaya 7 лет назад

Meanwhile *picks solobek* "Laughs at Warriors in solo lane" :)

@james-2360 7 лет назад

thanks for the advice 👍 lol love the cern getting destroyed guess he's not so godlike after all.

@KT-ti9bk 7 лет назад

Smite meta is shit. 90% of the community will see this video and say that anyone who doesn't build this is bad. The game offers many counters via items.. but most gamers can't think for themselves. It's destroying the game.

@pgrane16 7 лет назад

What's the name of the background music? i think it's from Donkey Kong bu i don't remember it exactly

@aaronmoise8261 7 лет назад

I've seen this build often in plat 1 and diamond and also here and there ah puch solo

@aaronmoise8261 7 лет назад

a chacc on my team had this build and had 87 000+ player damage it was insane

@xragxgg8099 7 лет назад

If you take out vanguard this is dmbrandon's herc build

@michaelschindler4478 7 лет назад

my friend has used this build on Odin since season 2 and it's O fucking P and now odin has been buffed since then ( we never played season 3 ) i wonder how it stands up now.

@vasqaze8458 7 лет назад

Do what u want , I solo with Hades *leans back , takes a sip from MT Dew and crunches a Dorito . Then blinks in , 2-3 and spams VET as u back after having just used ur teleport to get to lane.*

@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 7 лет назад

Vas Qaze the busted god that they just buffed? Haha you must be the greatest

@vasqaze8458 7 лет назад

Tom Danner How is he busted ? He needs to be played right , and that ain't EZ . His buff was not just a switch of protections from passive to active for ult and some more scaling for 1 (which no one levels much early anyways). Hades , if played right with maximum positioning for minion setups and with his team knowing how to use a Hades for heals , can do ANY role (other than ADC). Hades , being amongst the hardest gods to play from behind , needs that good clear for farm. And his ult is easily avoided by Gods with mobility.

@TuNightMain 7 лет назад

But.. if you don't look at Mark of the Vanguard that is basically what dmbrandon has build for the last few months. idk why this would be seen as a deathwalker build..

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Yeah and if you don't look at Mark of the Vanguard it's also a terrible power curve compared to including MotV, sooo this is clearly Deathwalker's / AlphaJackal's build. There's a reason none of the pros went straight for Mystical Mail and the numbers are all explained in this very video.

@wow7472 7 лет назад

Alright how are you guys gonna ignore the Janus at 2:24 lmao

@11deanski33 7 лет назад

who cares about mystical mail! I wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch man!

@theo567getu 7 лет назад

watched this whole video in a smite conguest queue

@dylanrehman9339 7 лет назад

Holy bellona gameplay *barf*

@leroyroberts7564 7 лет назад

if you have sunder does that get rid of the passive on mystical mail too?

@august-5085 7 лет назад

i see ya outplaying that cernunnos. i notice you.

@poopsqwigle 7 лет назад

I have always been building mark, but mystical would come much later.

@isaacx2718 7 лет назад

can you please tell me what is a good build, ama, bellona, swk and/or nike.

@Jimars 7 лет назад

tbh i don't think we needed the gauntlet to let us know that Mystical Mail is good. The stats are nice and the passive is quite useful

@gozwedebattista2266 7 лет назад

What do you build instead of mark of the vanguard in late game?

@warriorprincessgaming617 7 лет назад

could this build work for nike?

@somaoni8806 7 лет назад

Warrior Princess Gaming I could see that working, but I can't have fun with her anymore since they just keep nerfing her, the passive is fine, by WHY did they have to touch her clear?

@warriorprincessgaming617 7 лет назад

very true but i still like her tho lol

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Yeah, she's not ideal for it, but it could work.

@cuteerebos2155 7 лет назад

Nice video

@israelmendez47 7 лет назад

Let's go team rival

@itsjustjos 7 лет назад

Can you do a video on Lono's Mask and if it is any good

@Gimmly7 7 лет назад

And cdr is not important at all with this build? Or when do u build cdr?

@TheCBusha 7 лет назад

How To Counter: Mages in Solo with Burst. Then less likely mystical would be not as effective. Just an idea.

@scotiabushcraft9570 7 лет назад

What do you do when you are behind and getting bullied in solo?

@thertsman8233 7 лет назад

i mean, it's pretty much what all solo's were doing in season 1, i dont see how this is revolutionary.

@henriquesousa3022 7 лет назад

Its not the best option, But Chaac can build Death Tool

@Zefo_No 7 лет назад

Yeah. Since he needs to auto 5 times to get his passive up, it's totally viable.

@burny6666 7 лет назад

And Item which is completely underused with Chaac is Runeforge Hammer. The passive from this item works really well with Chaac's 3. That 15% more damage combined with the healing from his 3 allows Chaac to outrade any warrior in solo lane.

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Honestly, I'd probably just rush Vanguard on Chaac. He has so much early damage anyways, he can easily get away with it.

@Nate689 7 лет назад

Who cares about Mystical Mail, we wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch!! (Fer eel doh!)

@offic.dzanjo3048 7 лет назад

i get mark first item on vamana ... cuz you don't fully clear till lvl 5-6 anyway

@nickhanson2781 7 лет назад

What happened to "NEVER BUILD BREASTPLATE EARLY"?

@liamknight9848 7 лет назад

Can you do an interface guide?

@ayikart 7 лет назад

People have to see someone use these kind of builds to take it serious i have been doing these things from the start.

@ExoticTurtle3 7 лет назад

I have been out of the meta for awhile but I am getting back in adore solo laning, so can anyone tell me if this strat is still viable? Thank you!

@OhMyJenpai 7 лет назад

Who cares about Mystical Mail? we wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch!!

@Yokaimu 7 лет назад

The real question is what was the rest of his build 🤔

@Drawfill 7 лет назад

Is mystical mail damage magical, physical or true damage? Pretty sure its magical damage but I could be wrong.

@ghostrecon1419 7 лет назад

jean-sébastien dubé magical damage

@wienix11 7 лет назад

Who cares about Mystical Mail, we wanna see Deathwalker's Ah Puch

@bakublader1999 7 лет назад

Is it really breaking solo lane though? Mystical mail + defensive starter item has been relevant so often throughout smite's lifecycle that i don't think it is that revolutionary. Solo lane meta will always come back to mystical mail, eventually. It is just that time period again.

@Mariosunbornchild 7 лет назад

someone broke solo long before this and has a better way of doing it, wouldn't the item be better for early game, which then would give power over late game. you clear faster really die and can rotate Alot more than the other solo later due to clearing faster making your team harder to fight in lanes and harder to contest objectives

@artorias8939 7 лет назад

I thought Ravana always got death's toll

@jtemple1617 7 лет назад

hey duke CAN YOU GET THIS DAMN BOOT OFF THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN!!!!!

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Well shit, I fucked up with that one, didn't I? :D My bad, missed a step while bulk editing the items

@jtemple1617 7 лет назад

DukeSloth I was just trying to watch the gameplay in the background it was very disorienting man

@PeteDHeat 7 лет назад

This is not a new thing... lol I've seen it before and I've used it. He just basically put it out there when the spotlight was on him.

@rbposeidon6812 7 лет назад

When is masters lan

@anim3z4u 7 лет назад

This is BS.😂 We regular players been building this on our warriors and guardians for the longest time but when a pro does it an official item everyone should use. I always give my diamond Amataersu mystical mail since it goes well with her passive.

@Ace-kk4dm 7 лет назад

can someone answer why I now see bellona in almost every game now?

@Ace-kk4dm 7 лет назад

She is my main and for months I hardly saw anyone play her till now.

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Because this item combo works really well for her, pretty sure I explained that in the vid.

@Ace-kk4dm 7 лет назад

DukeSloth you did but in all my games they never build it they always go for the recommend build.

@Ace-kk4dm 7 лет назад

DukeSloth by the way thanks for replying I didn't expect that.

@umerali6858 7 лет назад

Mark plus mystical just go burst against those or keep a distance I think those are ways to stop it just an opinion

@timproc9355 7 лет назад

it's situational...

@umerali6858 7 лет назад

Tim Proc explain what do you mean situational

@timproc9355 7 лет назад

meaning he only uses the build when appropriate

@MsMaplestoryXD 7 лет назад

Been using Mystical Mail since, well forever. Never really found it "bad", but now its popular caz some guy in ranked used it? #noloveforthelittlepeople :(

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

Some PRO used it, not some guy in ranked. Many things stay under the radar until a pro uses it, because pros establish what works on the highest level and then it becomes meta and trickles down. Using Mystical Mail alone also isn't the same thing. Mystical Mail alone has a horrible power / defense curve until it's completed. Mark of the Vanguard was the workaround that was needed to make it effective enough to compete with current high meta options. Also, noone forces you to follow that meta, ever. But it is what you will primarily see in your games.

@ssfbuha3762 7 лет назад

Under the radar ? I bet a soo many good solo players know about it , it was in the meta before he used it . If you don`t play ranked in higher lvls you can`t know that

@shenron4 7 лет назад

This is nothing new, back in season 2 mystical mail was a strong choice for solo lane, especially for poor clear gods

@DukeSloth 7 лет назад

+Prometheus So? Runeforged Hammer used to be meta once and if it came back now, it would still be something new. Mystical Mail in season 2 had different stats, therefore a different price efficiency and other items had different price tags as well. Additionally, mystical mail wasn't built with MotV back then.