SMOOTHED DeHackEd mod for Doom: Chaingunner sound & fire rate fixed

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Smooth monster animation add-on for Doom www.doomworld.... modified to give the chaingunner the proper sound (not that of the shotgun like in vanilla game) and the same rate of fire as the player.
The player's chaingun animation is smooth due to Smooth weapons DeHackEd mod www.doomworld....

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@RevenantFTS97 3 года назад

I always had the thought what made the Chaingunner (and why not the Spiderdemon) feels so intimaditing and powerful is that his weapon sounds like the shotgun, instead of the pistol (even though it should be that way). This video has confirmed that thought

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 3 года назад

The Spiderdemon's weapon is actually a six-barrel Gatling shotgun, it fires like the sergeant but rapidly.

@lod4246 2 года назад

@@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul So it would work on a mastermind, but not as much on the chaingunner because he literally drops the thing. buy hey, that's just preference

@raptordan166 2 года назад

@@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul Even then, they lose that intimidation factor that makes their weapons feel so dangerous and punchy. They sound even goofier with pistol sounds when the pitch is random.

@DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

SNDINFO is here to save the day, luckily c: (At least if you play on Z/GZ/LZDoom or Skulltag/Zandronum)

@nickblake8767 2 года назад

@@lod4246 actually the chaingunner works about the same way, firing 3 hitscans at a time (like the sergeant)

@chestedarmor5578 3 года назад

I prefer the original version. Sounded much more intimidating, and helped you knowing if the bullets come out or go inside you.

@maledictusakatsuki495 3 года назад

Yes

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

You can customize it so the chaingunner has his own sound. I use the Doom 3 chaingun, it sounds great on his boosted fire rate.

@sovereignone1900 3 года назад

Also, nice DeHack. I never realized that the fire rate of the chaingunner was, well, so off but it makes sense now considering how fucking fast these bastards mow you down.

@rilluma 3 года назад

what you mean? in vanilla chaingunner has lower firing rate and damage output than the player. the shotgun sfx makes it sound like faster.. but it actually is not.

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

@@rilluma That's his point. The sound illusion is good to mask the lower RoF of the vanilla chaingunner, and with this patch, they are insanely efficient at shredding Doomguy, so no wonder the fire rate was lowered before Doom 2 was released.

@jordanfreman4954 2 года назад

@@DinnerForkTongue fire rate lowered before doom 2 release?

@DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

@@jordanfreman4954 Just an educated guess. It would've been much easier for Carmack to keep the same tic rate as the player's chaingun for the chaingunner's attack routine, only playtesting would've displayed the problems with that.

@willywillington9252 7 месяцев назад

@@DinnerForkTongue I believe the chaingunner's lower RoF is actually because after every second shot it checks if it can still see its target, which takes 1 game tick. that (allegedly) causes every other shot to fire 1 tick later than it's supposed to. I could be wrong on this though

@DinnerForkTongue 4 года назад

You just made the Heavy Weapon Dude so much worse. I love you. EDIT: can't download anymore 😟

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 4 года назад

I love you too, I feel so good when someone cares! Updated link in the video description. You will need Crispy Doom or Doom Retro sourceport to run this. For vanilla ports, download this chaingunner tweak www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=1989

@sebastiankulche 3 года назад

Why worse? I think is much better. The shotgun sound sounds very off to me.

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

@@sebastiankulche Worse as in nastier. Chaingunners with this mod are EXTREMELY dangerous and top priority even above arch-viles.

@sebastiankulche 3 года назад

@@DinnerForkTongue Oh, i though that just it changes the sound effect.

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

@@sebastiankulche Nope. This bumps up their fire rate from 450-ish RPM straight up to 525, _just_ like the player's chaingun.

@V2GAMINGBRUH Год назад

finnaly, the chaingunner doesnt make the sound of 1k shotguners when shooting

@Scorpios9472 2 года назад

this is why I preferred the PSX/Doom64 sfx for the Chaingun over this paperclip.

@DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

I use the Doom 3 chaingun sound for them. It's just the right amount of booming and vicious to mark them as the menace that they are.

@Scorpios9472 2 года назад

@@DinnerForkTongue honestly never thought of using it, but it goes so well

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

@@Scorpios9472 The sounds from the Quake 4 machine gun turret and the RTCW MP40 also go hard.

@WarpedSavior 3 года назад

Thank you so much for the mod!!! I really do love this one😻

@gamerider4976 3 года назад

This video got randomly recommended to me

@MGMan37 3 года назад

I prefer the original sound, it makes his gun seem much more menacing, which it should be.

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

You can open the wad file, edit the .deh file with notepad, and delete the "codepointer" part that refers the chaingunner's sound to the zombieman's fire. Then it'll sound like the chaingun again.

@K-kof2000 3 года назад

@@DinnerForkTongue Dude I'm new to this, could you tell me how I can add these changes to my map the right way? ;-;

@pepe6666 Год назад

this had to be done. all this time and someone finally made it. you kill him and literally take the same gun as him. so what you shoot should sound just like what he was shooting

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

Maybe zombo chaingunner doesn't know how to operate it as cleanly as Doomguy. (yes, it's a stretch) But really, chaingunners with this RPM are nice and deadly if you leave them alone at all.

@rodrigoalves-cg6xv 4 месяца назад

It's a videogame. It's not supposed to be realistic. Who cares if the sound is different?

@heathen_6_6_6 Год назад

Saw Doomer using Sodom logo. Immediately subscribed.

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul Год назад

Thank you, if you're interested, I forked Crispy Doom and made my tribute to Sodom based on it. I called my sourceport So Doom www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/109752-so-doom-700-august-26-2023-quadruple-resolution-so-polished-fork-of-crispy-doom/

@Nihilistic-Mystic 3 года назад

DeHackEd is my favorite because of this kind of stuff.

@sovereignone1900 3 года назад

This section totally fucking looks like Map04 of Memento Mori, though, I don't remember a chaingunner being down there thought it was a hellknight.

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 3 года назад

This is Memento Mori MAP04: The Stand, right. I don't remember exactly what I did to bring the chaingunner there, maybe I slew the hell knight, spared a chaingunner and had him follow me downstairs.

@ninjacat230 4 месяца назад

I was expecting to have to make this myself

@bigbruhtheorphan9070 3 года назад

i like the smooth animation, personnaly i prefer the vanilla sound but its nice to have, BUT WHY MAKE HIM EVEN DEADLIER BY MAKING HIM HAVE A STRAIGHT UP CHAINGUN

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 3 года назад

For the sake of consistency and fair play :)

@bigbruhtheorphan9070 3 года назад

haha lol

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

Some people like the extra challenge. Me, for instance. I just can't in good conscience play with vanilla slow chaingunners anymore.

@bigbruhtheorphan9070 3 года назад

@@DinnerForkTongue tho it breaks the balance of the game, especially in wads like plutonia and plutonia 2

@DinnerForkTongue 3 года назад

@@bigbruhtheorphan9070 I've played both wads with this add-on, Plutonia 1 multiple times and replaying 2 now. It really doesn't make that much difference if you prioritize the chaingunners as you should.

@Trevor6714 3 года назад

It did bother me that the sfx for chain gun guy was a shotgun blast

@MegaWillBound4015 Год назад

Me too, the spidermastermind made a lot more sense

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

Same for me. That nuisance was why I learned to make SNDINFO mods, though they only work for and derivatives like GZDoom.

@BrownKnigh 2 года назад

0:03 rip

@rayzermaniac5218 2 года назад

God that was awful. Now I know why they gave him the shotgun sound effects.

@DinnerForkTongue 2 года назад

It's a double effect: makes him sound more powerful and masks the rate of fire. Me, I just use SNDINFO mods. The Doom 3 chaingun is perfect for these guys, esp with the boosted fire rate.

@arbyz142 2 года назад

It's like doom 64 chaingun

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

More or less. D64's chaingun is faster by like 75RPM due to the tic rate.

@almipopp5152 3 года назад

I admire the effort but the way you can’t tell who’s weapon is firing is kind of awful

@MondySpartan 2 года назад

It’s probably why id gave the Shotgun sounds to them.

@DinnerForkTongue Год назад

Wait what? Either the chaingunner is shooting, or you are. Can't you tell when you yourself are shooting?

@FacuV-sf2qf 2 года назад

The POP gun

@K-kof2000 3 года назад

Hi, sorry for my ignorance but I couldn't find the weapon sprites on these links... Could you help me, please? 😅

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 3 года назад

Do you want to extract sprites from the WAD?

@K-kof2000 3 года назад

@@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul I don't know if I did something wrong, but the available wads only contain monster sprites, I hoped there would be weapon sprites too.

@sodoomaniacdesynficatedsoul 3 года назад

@@K-kof2000 Smooth weapons are in the separate wad www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/84859-black-ops-smooth-weapons-dehacked-mod/