SMS Derfflinger - Guide 106 (Extended)

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The Derfflinger class, battlecruisers of the Imperial German Navy, are today's subject.
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@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

Another reason Derfflinger was so beloved refers to his namesake, fieldmarshal Derfflinger, who fought in the 30 years war and afterwards he organized the Brandenburgian army in a very modern shape away from mercinaries-Landsknechts .... he created the first standing army in this era with social security for the lads. The main point in his career is, he was one of rare generals in history who made it up from the ranks. So everybody could identify with him.

@thecatalyst6212 3 года назад

why do they name wars after how long they lasted

@hajoos.8360 3 года назад

@@thecatalyst6212 People describe the fact how long such a burden as war lasted. If do you read Forester or other writers with their fictional British sea-heroes or more adjusted to the truth, talented pirates, like, in reality, Sidney-Smith or Cochrane (both were the best military seamen in history), you'll read, that all those heroes whether died or were fatigue about war, especially the Napoleonic Wars lasted more than 20 years. Think about, one of my grandfathers served in 2 WWs, after it, he was a broken man. Living in times of war was never funny. There is always war, but most times, as in our case, not in the own backyard.

@NashmanNash 3 года назад

@@thecatalyst6212 Pff...Nobody is calling the war between the Netherlands and the Scilly Islands the"more than 300 years war"...Or the russo-japanese part of WWII the"technically it never ended war"^^

@thomasbenck9525 2 года назад

@@thecatalyst6212 There is one war that was named after Jenkin's ear.

@zhouenlai2569 Год назад

@@thecatalyst6212 The 30 years war is a collective term. It´s made up of 4 seperate wars with seperate names, which German historians are familiar with (Böhmisch-Pfälzischer Krieg, Niedersächsisch-Dänischer Krieg, Schwedischer Krieg, Französisch-Schwedischer Krieg). It´s also not unique (100 years war, 7 years war, six day war etc.).

@onecertainordinarymagician 5 лет назад

"But in keeping with a recurring theme amongst German ships where one of the class seems to absorb all the luck at the expense of the others" I laughed my head off there XD

@hajoos.8360 4 года назад

Your single point of view on Derfflinger is based on the failed interpretation of British politicians about the high seas fleet. The Germans built their 40% (of british fleets) fleet to become a valuable partner of the Brits to secure British homelands, too, when the Brits were active in overseas waters. The High-Seas-Fleet was never built to compete with the Brits, as the Brits interpreted it in arrogance. In real terms the bottled high-seas-fleet was totally useless. To compete the Brits the Germans would have needed a long-range battle-cruiser-fleet to intercept the trading routes. This fatal mistake in British politics caused the decline of Europe as a major power and the handover of the empire to the US in WWII.

@edwardteach3000 3 года назад

@@hajoos.8360 uh, I call bullshit.

@NashmanNash 3 года назад

@@hajoos.8360 Wow...how anyone can write down such bullshit surprises me :D

@hajoos.8360 3 года назад

@@NashmanNash make it better. You did not enlightened us, you covered us only with bullshit. Where are your arguments, intellectual giant?

@NashmanNash 3 года назад

@@hajoos.8360 Maybe,just maybe...Because Tirpitz and Wilhelm II said that the fleet is supposed to compete with the british and break their naval superiority? Long range Battlecruiser fleet...Wrong...against trade routes you just need long range cruisers..Things that didn´t exactly exist in the age of coal burners..And certainly not for germany thanks to the lack of colonies and supporting harbors. And how does building a fleet so large that is supposed to"help" the british,if the british already have a fleet that´s perfectly capable of doing it´s task in all possible scenarios.. You post your sources,i post mine...except the common sense,something you obviously lack. The only somewhat correct statement from you is that this entire naval arms race lead to the US becoming the major Power in the end,because they could afford to outbuild both the UK and germany on the long run

@christosvoskresye 5 лет назад

And, of course, the SMS Derfflinger narrowly avoided direct contact with the HMS Notappearinginthisfilm.

@MyLateralThawts 4 года назад

In the highly unlikely possibility the RN would ever accept public input into naming their ships (see Boaty McBoatface) I sincerely hope someone nominates Notappearinginthisfilm as a prime contender.

@hevendor958 4 года назад

or what about HMS Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

@waffelreitter7231 3 года назад

@@hevendor958 Ahhh the welsh laguage is a wonderful bout of Autism is it not?

@the_undead 2 года назад

@@waffelreitter7231 First off no Second off no Third off that looks more like keyboard smashing than anything else

@waffelreitter7231 2 года назад

@@the_undead"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch" is a village in Whales Here it is pronounced in this video near the end: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fKuHXhUu6_Y.html

@Ponja__ 5 лет назад

Am I the only one that finds WW1 German capital ships so beautiful? Like, even compared to their contemporaries, they stand out

@TraditionalAnglican 4 года назад

Dashamburger - The British said the same thing about the German ships during the Channel Dash...

@toddwebb7521 3 года назад

Definitely like the high seas fleet battlecruisers a lot. Not sure if I have the same level of love for the slow battleships

@NashmanNash 3 года назад

@@toddwebb7521 Seydlitz is a little ugly with her 3 stepped hull...Moltke looks better in my eyes..even though i don´t find any of the pre Derfflinger Battlecruisers really attractive...

@jonathanjones3623 Год назад

From a functionality or Aesthetics perspective? Certainly the Germans seem to do better than the Americans and the British forces on an individual characteristical basis I think it owes itself to the fact that Germany was such a latecomer it was able to utilize the most up-to-date techniques their mentality was newer and fresher at the time. you have to remember the United States was established in 1776 the British Empire was founded probably not that long after the United Kingdom was established in active Union 1701 1707 whenever that was. But you have a lot of legacy ideas mentality in both institutions that may be the Germans just didn't have and so their vessels do look a little bit more efficient they do look a lot more attractive because younger Minds want to have this impressive impact they do look the part roots and suits clean and cut though as far as individual Capital ships go for the British German warships simply took too long to build for the United States they were simply too expensive by comparison. so who won World War I who won World War II maybe the Germans should have adopted a different mentality with volume production at least as far as warships go it's my understanding that when you fight a war you go to war with the Navy you have and then ships that get built during the war are just icing on the cake it's the same thing in the aerial Arena or the ground Arena you go to war with the Army the guns you have you go to war with the planes and engines that you have and then cross your fingers and pray

@hajoos.8360 Год назад

@@jonathanjones3623 The main reason for the beauty of German ships is the curvature of the hull. German ships implement a female shape, which donates the hull a certain stability. Unfortunately politics had more influence in Germany than in other nations. Nobody checked in the forefront the wrong calculated fuel consumption of the Hipper-class. The lack of maritime tradition promoted German flag-officers in spite of their failures. Instead being shot on his quarterdeck rear-admiral Kummetz was promoted to vice-admiral. The geo-political construction of the High Seas fleet was an entire failure. Sea power means an ability to be present on the entire planet & not only in the North Sea or the Baltics to fight some British or Russian pirates.

@arkadeepkundu4729 3 года назад

Brits: What is that? Germany: *Unser Neuer Schlachtkreuzer!* Brits: So it sails around at high speed flinging large calibre artillery shells at things? Germany _(proudly)_ Ja, we call it *Der Fflinger*

@schiefer1103 2 года назад

Aua mein Gehirn

@michaelkovacic2608 2 года назад

Krintsch 😅

@colbeausabre8842 2 года назад

Arkadeep Kundu Oh, mannnnn - is that bad

@jkilla9934 2 года назад

Großartig

@na3044 Год назад

That joke is bad and you should feel bad.

@miniadler 5 лет назад

hands down the most sexiest ships of the german imperial fleet

@longlakeshore 5 лет назад

Definitely. And HMS Tiger was the sexiest WWI British battlecruiser.

@fernandomarques5166 5 лет назад

Real beauty

@davidmaxwell1026 5 лет назад

Yeah real nice lines. be good if any of these ships like Derfflinger, Dreadnought, Bayern, Lion and Iron Duke survived today as museums. not much to ask.

@fernandomarques5166 5 лет назад

@@davidmaxwell1026 Biggest crime against history and museum ships in my opnion is the non-preservacion of the USS Enterprise.

@steeltrap3800 5 лет назад

@@fernandomarques5166 I think HMS Warspite would also be a contender for that title. I suspect we can agree they both ought to have been preserved.

@andrewclayton4181 3 года назад

It mentions at the end the delay between the raising and the scrapping of Derfflinger. This resulted in the ship carrying the world record for length of time floating in a capsized state. During WWII it's upturned hull was used to mount ack-ack guns.

@studentjohn35 Год назад

The USN were resistant to the whole idea of battlecruisers right up until 1915. Once it became obvious to anyone that the battlecruiser fleets were in most actions, while all battleships remained in port, the USN became interested in battlecruisers. Derfflinger was the the favorite design studied by American officers. How a slightly improved Derfflinger evolved into to the committee's seven funnels draft design is a clue to what was wrong with the whole USN design bureau for a few years, there.

@markdavis2475 3 года назад

Derfflinger was moored, upside down, next to the hulk of Iron Duke. During the war a small team lived on the hull in wooden huts, they carried out maintenance to ensure there was sufficient compressed air inside to keep her afloat. Early in WW2 a German plane bombed the Iron Duke. The salvage effort that kept her afloat highlighted the poor state of salvage equipment in the navy and led to huge improvements that went on to save many damaged vessels during the war. The book "Epics of Salvage" by David Masters is a good read about this.

@josynaemikohler6572 5 лет назад

Interestingly, the loss of the two aft turrets of Derfflinger was also blamed on misshandling of safety meassurements: When the Y turret was hit, and burned, the crew opened a door attempting to flee into the X turret, which caused both turrets being burned out instead of only one, and the loss of both turret's crews with only 1 survivor. Also, HMS Lion was safed by the affords of the mortally wounded Major Francis Harvey, ordering to flood the Q turret magazine, otherwise Lion would have exploded like her halfsister Queen Mary. Somewhat similiar, Seydlitz was saved at the battle of Dggerbank from a similiar fate, where one of the crews managed to flood the magazine, despite the valves being already glowing red. (He survived, but suffered severe burns and lung damage).

@UnintentionalSubmarine 5 лет назад

That was Seydlitz at Dogger Bank however.

@bigblue6917 5 лет назад

Makes you wonder about the standards of training for British and German crews.

@riebenzahl-524 5 лет назад

@@bigblue6917 "there seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" Admiral Beatty at Jutland after two of his battlecruisers exploded. But it wasn't the ships but ignoring safety regulations, they kept the doors open between turret and the depote for the cordite to load faster. A lesson the germans learned from the battle at the Doggerbank in whcih they almost los Seydlitz due to the same issue

@jamesricker3997 5 лет назад

The Americans learned that lesson before the war with a near disastrous accident on the pre-dreadnought USE Texas

@hajoos.8360 5 лет назад

The guy who saved Seydlitz at the Doggerbank was pumpmaster Wlihelm Heidkamp. Kriegsmarine named the destroyer Z21 after him. This destroyer was sunk at Narvik.

@Bufoferrata 5 лет назад

At last! The Iron Dog has her day! Great video. Very informative and those model pics are a fantastic addition. Thanks so much!

@nickschmitz841 4 года назад

My great uncle served on SMS Derfflinger. Thank you for the video, it was quite informative.

@eplekake3870 5 лет назад

Thanks for the presentation. One of the reasons for wing turrets on the earlier Battlecruisers was that it was assumed that they would be involved in stern chases, and this gun arrangement would allow for increased forward and aft fire.

@admiraltiberius1989 5 лет назад

One of my absolute favorite ships ever. Love how it looks and that nickname too. Thank you for doing the video. It's top quality as always.

@iamnadexey 5 лет назад

What do you call a German baseball pitcher? Derfflinger

@bigblue6917 5 лет назад

How long you been saving that joke. 😄

@jeffreyskoritowski4114 5 лет назад

Don't quit your day job.

@rictusmetallicus 5 лет назад

I'm german. Can you explain this joke to me?

@iamnadexey 5 лет назад

@@rictusmetallicus If you "fling" something, then you throw it, so I anglicized "derfflinger" to be like "der flinger"

@diabeticalien3584 5 лет назад

Lmao

@GKo-iu6ei Год назад

Der Matrose Minute 11.36 ist mein Großvater Heinrich Köhler, er war Heizer auf der Derfflinger. Viele Geschichten wurden in unserer Familie um dieses Schiff erzählt...Danke für dieses Video. Mein Großvater starb 1960 als ich 5 Jahre alt war.

@hattrick8684 2 года назад

Never gets old. This is probably the 10th time watching this video, just got done watching Von Der Tann’s video probably the 10th time as well. Saturday morning coffee with drach is a great way to start the weekend after a long week.

@BobSmith-dk8nw 4 года назад

And about 50 years ago I spent many hours commanding this ship - and the rest of the High Seas Fleet playing Avalon Hill's - Jutland - about the same amount of time that had passed at that time, since the real battle of Jutland. .

@douglasstrother6584 4 года назад

I spent a lot of time with Avalon Hill games, including Jutland.

@BobSmith-dk8nw 4 года назад

@@douglasstrother6584 Yeah. I lent my copy of Jutland to this guy who never returned it. So I looked it up recently on e-bay and bought another copy off of there. It was nice to have that again but ... it didn't have that "New Game Smell" I remember from those old games. .

@jehb8945 3 года назад

The small detail that impressed me about this ship was the flush deck no step down for a rear quarter deck and the secondary guns were mounted in the superstructure so I always considered this ship the prototype for German warships of world war II namely the scharnorists and most importantly the bismarcks. Derflinger and her sisters definitely cut above their weight lutzow took a stupid amount of damage to sink and Derflinger survived direct hits from 15-in shells. Even though these ships served the enemy of world war I deserve respect because they were well designed and they were tough.

@RonJohn63 5 лет назад

2:05 That cruiser seems pretty low in the water for a ship in a high seas fleet.

@nibotkram7743 5 лет назад

It belonged to the low seas fleet

@RonJohn63 5 лет назад

@@nibotkram7743 aka the Baltic Sea Fleet?

@charliekk3377 5 лет назад

Uboat cruiser lol

@hajoos.8360 4 года назад

The Baltic Sea is less salted in comparison to every other maritime part of the planet. Learn your lessons, midshipman. If not, you will never get a comission as a lieutenant.

@paulgreen6980 3 года назад

@@hajoos.8360 All ships carry ballast it is used to keep the ship at an optimum depth in any water and load!

@scotthill8787 5 лет назад

Interesting stuff, as always. Thanks, Drachinifel.

@markwinward500 5 лет назад

Please consider reviewing the pre-dreadnaught Japanese battleship Mikasa, Admiral Togo’s Russo-Japanese War flagship and the only surviving example of a British-built battleship.

@deetroittony 5 лет назад

Good morning from Detroit. Love...love...love the iron dog!!!

@shadowfire246 5 лет назад

I'm glad they gave the bells back to Germany we tend to forget about the brave men who died for something they believed in.

@catriona_drummond 4 года назад

They were conscripts. Noone cared what they believed in. They were expected to die for their country whether they believed in it's cause or not.

@shadowfire246 4 года назад

@@catriona_drummond this may be true to some extent but disrespecting the dead tends to have foul consequences. Just a heads up.

@catriona_drummond 4 года назад

@@shadowfire246 Are you threateneing me? Or do you have mystic delusions about karma? The dead are dead. I can say about then wahtever I want, they are dead. Also I am not disrespecting them when I say they died in vain for a crazy elite. And if they dissented they were shot. Poor guys. German sailors were the first to finally rebel against the insanity of continuing the lost war in 1918. And that was an act of true bravery.

@shadowfire246 4 года назад

@@catriona_drummond🤭🙄🙄

4 года назад

@@catriona_drummond Oh no, it's another of those edgy marxist 15 year olds who've just leared the word 'elite' and now think they have all society figured out.

@nathansrandomstuff7680 Год назад

Building a 1:2400 model of derflingger as I’m watching this, great video as usual.

@Locochris1956 4 года назад

Derflinger was hit by 21 shells at Jutland, hit 10 was from Revenge a 15 inch APC pierced 10+ inch armoured plate on X turret only instance during the war where a British shell peirced German heavy armour this hit caused numerous charges to ignite and killed (likely 69 of the 75 in the turret as 6 escaped) it was hit by smaller shells as well, the heavy shells were thought to have come from Barham or Valiant (5) Indomiutable (3) Revenge (3) hits 9/10/11 Colossus (5) Collingwood (1) Royal Oak (2) both these passed through funnels without exploding, Bellerophon (1) Lion (1) the last hit At the end of the battle Derfliger had 3350 tons of water aboard of which 1120 was in the X and Y magazines 157 total killed and 26 wounded. repairs were not completed until 15th October, I am sure I read somewhere that Von Hase the gunnery officer says he was shocked by the accuracy of the Valiants shooting.Derflinger fired 298 12 inch APC and 87 base fused HE with an estimated 16 hits she also fired 1 torpedo at the British battle line without a hit.

@blorblor5438 2 года назад

I have two grenade fragments in my possession that my great-grandfather, who served on S53 during the Skagerak Battle, got as a memorial gift from a comrade who took part on the derfflinger. I wonder if it would be possible to somwhow determine from which guns those came...

@Locochris1956 2 года назад

@@blorblor5438 Hello there, I would think this difficult to determine but it would be wonderful to know all the same, good luck with determining the source

@SynchroScore 2 года назад

Well, never thought I'd see a ship placed in a floating drydock upside-down.

@benjaminwaterhouse4879 5 лет назад

lovely, thanks for the video.

@TheNecromancer6666 4 года назад

Look at this beauty.... Back when warships were properly beautiful....

@VincentMMoore0 2 года назад

Great channel! I just subscribed after a friend linked me to your video here.

@alexanderi1105 3 года назад

My favourite Ww1 era battlecruiser, it looms so sleek compared to its predecessors and even the British ones

@ssejr01 5 лет назад

I love all these vids

@sarjim4381 5 лет назад

Very informative video. WWI German vessels aren't my forte so I always learn something from your High Seas fleet presentations. That is a beautiful model of the Derflinger. Having built a few naval models in my life, the quality of paintwork, detailing, and rigging on this one is really outstanding. Are there any more pictures or videos of Speedbird's models I can feast my eyes on?

@Drachinifel 5 лет назад

Quite a few of his models are on the warship models channel on the Discord server, and I have permission to feature others in upcoming reviews :)

@sarjim4381 5 лет назад

@@Drachinifel It will be neat to see more of them. I was lucky to be able to build models without paint and glue slopping over the edges, so I appreciate someone with the talent to do it right.

@jarigustafsson7620 5 лет назад

Beautiful model.

@McRocket Год назад

Wonderful model. ☮

@lawrencelewis8105 5 лет назад

Fascinating! I have a 1/250th model of the Derfflinger sitting right behind me. But, I thought the Seydlitz was called "The Iron Dog."

@lawrencelewis8105 5 лет назад

@Jurassic Aviator I've seen pictures of the Seydlitz making it back to port with her forward decks almost awash. As an ex-navy man I can only say, those guys were sailors!

@lawrencelewis8105 5 лет назад

@Jurassic Aviator I understand that there were no watertight doors between the transverse bulkheads- you had to go up above the waterline and then back down into the next compartment. That makes for excellent watertight integrity.

@wordsisnukes 3 года назад

I don't play WoWs anymore, but I still watch Drach!

@michaelsullivan6127 5 лет назад

Q & A --- Would it be possible to see an episode on the Gearing and Fletcher classes of WWII USN DDs? As a former USN navigation/ECM tech, I'd be very interested in your take on the FRAM-2 conversions and DASH drones from the 50s, as well. Thanks, and keep up the good work. I thoroughly enjoy your commentary. As an aside, your comments on the proliferation of light and medium AA on WWII US warships is best taken with a large grain of salt. The addition of over 100 light and medium AA guns on BBs, and a proportional number on smaller hulls, worked, didn't it? One might say that the US Navy learned a hard lesson at Pearl Harbor, and from the sinking of the Repulse and Prince of Wales. Put enough steel in the air, and incoming aircraft have a difficult time pressing their attacks.

@Drachinifel 5 лет назад

Both destroyers are on the longer list. :) As for AA, I do completely agree it was justified, but the sheer number of guns amuses me so it's also fun to make humour from it. :)

@michaelsullivan6127 5 лет назад

I look forward to seeing the episodes on the DDs. The Gearings and Fletchers performed yeoman service in the Pacific during the war, and many survived long after other classes went to the knackers. I was in NAVSPECWARGRU-2 from '67-70, and was assigned to a converted Rudderow-class DE (to APD -- high-speed transport) and an Adams-class DDG for my two extended deployments. Several of deployment teams were sent on the older-style WWII DDs, which were pretty rough duty compared to the Adams-class.

@johncook3125 5 лет назад

Good video. Thanks

@klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

Now, big question, is this a video we're allowed to see? Looking forward to the 'new' drydock on Sunday ;-)

@Ah01 2 года назад

Always wondered why isn`t sms Derfflinger (even in retrospective) mentioned and the first ”fast battleship” in the world? Obviously it`s capability to absorb the punishment was at least equal to most WW1-era battleships, and the armour thickness similar to the original layout of Queen Elizabeth - class, which are often referred to as the first. And Derfflinger was commissioned some three months before the first QE. Tremendous ship. Fast, tough, lethal and unbeaten to the end. And with no doubt, one of the most stylish looking.

@tylerlawrence1997 2 года назад

I really like this ship.

@F40PH-2CAT 3 года назад

And that's when I said "Derfflinger? I hardly Knewher!"

@Dreska_ 5 лет назад

13:00 that photo is incredible! Maybe its fairly normal, but I've never seen a photo like that with buildings on top of the underside of a ship

@lawrencelewis8105 5 лет назад

That was done several times on the scuttled German fleet that were raised and scrapped. The hulls were kept afloat by large air compressors pumping air into the hulls.

@adamb9569 3 года назад

Has to be the greatest name for a ship

@isdrevenge8764 2 года назад

I live in Hartlepool and have walked past the spots that were hit during the bombardment. I can imagine waking up at 7 in the morning, opening your bedroom windows and seeing bright yellow flashes out at sea.

@psour33 5 лет назад

She was a great ship ! The old iron dog :)

@thebudgieadmiral5140 5 лет назад

Hey Drach, would you deem the capture of Royal by the German airship L 23 worthy of a special video? If not her, then maybe SMS Seeadler? I saw someone had suggested her already and, having done a bit of reading it seems like she was surprisingly successful despite being a sailing ship in the age of steam.

@FRAGIORGIO1 3 года назад

Very good presentation of these battlecruisers. I would only observe that Seydlitz is to be pronoounced as "Zyd lits"

@WALTERBROADDUS 5 лет назад

Handsome looking ship.

@crapphone7744 2 года назад

The Dirt Flinger is one of my favorite ships in the old Avalon Hill Jutland game. For some reason it has proved deadly in every engagement I've commanded it in.😋

@Krieg-ch8ot 4 года назад

Probably my favorite ship class of the high seas fleet very nice looking ships and a hell of a combat record. Something about her design somewhat reminds me of the Kriegsmarine's ships I know it's the same nation and all but there was a big design difference between the two Navy's Derflinger kinda seems to bridge the gap

@alanmcclenaghan7548 3 года назад

Best ship name ever!

@dimdimbramantyo7666 5 лет назад

Derfflinger: "Seydlitz, focus your fire on Queen Mary" Seydlitz: "I am locking her, hure !" Queen Mary: **Cursing in british**

@jackharrison1478 5 лет назад

Queen Mary: eh Barreh, we're fooked

@Macintoshiba 5 лет назад

What rotten luck!

@falloutghoul1 5 лет назад

*Explodes in British*

@paulhudson8321 4 года назад

You should do a video on the raising of all the capital ships at scapa flow. Read a great book on the topic of how they raised those ships which most capsized and were refloated still upside down. The book is Jutland to junkyard.

@nnoddy8161 5 лет назад

Awesome.

@beaterbikechannel2538 Год назад

Germany really found its feet with the all centreline superfiring turret dreadnoughts.

@lawrencehaguewood5857 5 лет назад

Of course the third general is not quite remembered for a battle cruiser these days.

@danielwalker6653 4 года назад

In world of warships Hindenburg is a tier 10 german heavy cruiser (paper design). Never knew there was an actual warship named after Hindenburg.

@RadioactiveSherbet 5 лет назад

That background sound at 6:20 scared the crap out of me. I'm at work atm.

@bearsamoyed 5 лет назад

Same

@toddmoss1689 5 лет назад

Excellent informative video! Derfflinger is my favorite Imperial German Navy class of ships and I also thank Speedbird for sharing their excellent model. Given how Lutzow’s loss primarily resulted from exposing the large bow torpedo tube compartment to uncontrollable flooding, I’m left wondering if such an arrangement on capital ships was worth the vulnerability to flooding in such a critical space. Did capital ships with bow torpedo tubes ever launch successful torpedo attacks from the bow?

@alganhar1 5 лет назад

Rodney, against the Bismark, though it is unknown to my knowledge whether the torpedo actually hit. As far as I am aware though that is the *only* time a Capital ship used underwater torpedo tubes in action. Like you, I wonder why they were retained.....

@toddmoss1689 5 лет назад

alganhar1 and Rodney was most likely firing at a DIW Bismarck with little chance of evasion. I understand the World War 1 G7 to have a 9,300 meter range at 27 knots, but I think I’d rather let my destroyers and light cruisers deliver the torps.

@alganhar1 5 лет назад

@@toddmoss1689 Agreed!

@falloutghoul1 5 лет назад

@@alganhar1 Didn't Rodney suffer a near-hit to the bow tubes?

@Locochris1956 4 года назад

@@alganhar1 Derflinger fired at the British battle fleet and quite a few other battle ships fired off torpedos so not as unusual as you might think

@TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 лет назад

Beautiful ships. But whats with the big white circles painted on top of there turrets?

@swaghauler8334 5 лет назад

@@T_Hoog AKA "bullseyes?" :)

@sse_weston4138 5 лет назад

Q&A: Although this would be conjecture overall, what do you believe happened to the IJN Unebi of 1886? (Repost of comment since last one got lost in the shuffle lol)

@spookyshadowhawk6776 5 лет назад

The French built ship that almost reached Japan before it disappeared? If so, I've wondered about that myself. The Japanese switched to British ship's after that one disappeared.

@rohmarts 5 лет назад

I wonder how many ships were given awesome nicknames by the enemy.

@McRocket 3 года назад

Thank you for this. These are what I think battlecruisers should be. Fast, powerful and able to take almost as much of a pounding as a battleship. True, battle fleet scouts that can duke it out with battleships for short periods of time (if needed). I think the German's really got the battlecruiser concept right. Whereas I don't think the British or the Japanese ever, really did (though the G3 would have been spectacular, IMO). And the Americans got them hideously wrong (the Alaska's had virtually, no underwater protection and the less said about the Lexington's - 43,000 tons, 16" guns and a 7 inch belt?!? - the better).

@jjsmith4829 3 года назад

very handsome ship

@christopher5723 5 лет назад

Can you do the 1881 HMS Polyphemus. Which besides being an example of an intriguing design dead end, the torpedo ram, is perhaps the inspiration for HMS Thunderchild of "War of the Worlds" which I believe you have admitted an affection for in some of your previous videos.

@Zakalwe-01 4 года назад

Nice modern lines. Looks like a 60s Sheffield council estate...

@alexandermangani3346 3 года назад

I wonder if you could do a video about HMS Frisky, a Royal Navy seagoing tug that became the subject of Farley Mowat’s book, “The Grey Seas Under”. She was an exceptional vessel and sailed as the SS Foundation Franklin for many years out of the Canadian Maritimes as a maritime salvage vessel. Her story is one that needs to be retold.

@ironstarofmordian7098 5 лет назад

Those were some mighty fine ladies!

@klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

What is 6:21? Not a bird and not the sound of a computer program I know. Is your house haunted or something? :D

@avnrulz8587 5 лет назад

Squeaky chair?

@CorporalDeath67 5 лет назад

Sounds like he's playing Star Trek: Fleet Command on Andriod. Thats they exact sound it makes when their is an announcement.

@klobiforpresident2254 5 лет назад

@@CorporalDeath67 Unacceptable. I demand he slave away 24/7 paying 110% attention solely to this content he provides for us free of charge! Or, alternatively, that he maybe mute his phone. :D

@evanklein4569 5 лет назад

Would it be possible to start mentioning the ship yards that built the ships? I’m not sure how hard that information is to come by but my cousin works at Bath Iron works and they are all very proud of every ship they produce and follow it through it’s service life. I think it would be really cool to know what ship yard created each ship.

@Walpolemike14 5 лет назад

Hey Drach, love the videos. Would you ever consider doing a USS Greer incident video, or maybe even a USS Maddox Tonkin Gulf video (without the politics, just the facts as you usually do, or maybe the sinking of U550 off Nantucket video. Just a couple suggestions for specials. Thanks! -- Mike McL

@cramcrud 5 лет назад

As well as more firepower as well

@davidpetrie8261 4 года назад

cant wait till they make a movie about Jutland

@geoffburrill9850 4 года назад

Best looking German warship of this era.

@jamesbugbee6812 2 года назад

Ah, a Kaiser class BB slipped into the vid 💜.

@matthewmoore5698 Год назад

I alway thought it was something like the thrower I’m enlightened

@avnrulz8587 5 лет назад

7:38 'Hindemberg'. LOL

@westcoaststacker569 5 лет назад

Thank You again, being West Coast American etc... I know a lot less about the Battles and fleets of that era. Great presentation once again!

@bnipmnaa 4 года назад

Nobody cares where you're from.

@Bufoferrata 5 лет назад

Are the IJN Takao class on the list?

@youngbloodk 4 года назад

I think the Derfflinger is the best looking German warship, except for maybe the WW2 Scharnhorst. Especially like the aspect at around 5:30 in the video.

@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 6 месяцев назад

If there was one ship that could rival HMS Warspite in stuberness it was SMS Derfflinger, she is sooo on my shopping list to get in World of Warships

@Cancun771 4 года назад

Pronunciation is DErfflinger

@Rauschgenerator 3 года назад

"Seydlitz"'s pronounciation would be best described as "Side-litz".

@EneriGiilaan 5 лет назад

7:30 Hindemburg ;)

@AFV85 2 года назад

There's a new model of it coming out soon it looks like it's going to be very detailed! S.m.s Derflinger both 1917/1918 variants with the shorter mast on the 1918

@jackdale9831 3 года назад

Have you done a video about the WWI German commerce-raider "Wolfe? It was successful over all, I feel, because it had a reconnaissance float-plane "Wulfchen", which could scan the horizon for "targets" or "warships" hunting-it. The few times it found Allied ships "gunning" for its "Mother", I wonder if it had enough fuel to fly-away in another direction to draw the warships away. And WHAT a Surprise to targets/warships alike,--appearing in one direction in mid-ocean, when a tender/other ship would HAVE to be nearby, just to re-fuel it, --it no larger than an observation land plane.

@wolffweber7019 4 года назад

And there comes The Iron Dog...

@JJosephS1 5 лет назад

Could you please do one of you reviews of the Pennsy BB-38?

@garsidegardens3366 4 года назад

Can you do a vid on HMS ROBERTS and the Heavy Gunned Monitor ships???? PLEASE thanks love the vids keep en coming. ENJOY

@Lowlander-ci7is 4 года назад

I sank this ship in Steam and Iron, tough ship 😎

@colbeausabre8842 2 года назад

Think it's significant that the Germs named their ships after generals while British named them after admirals. That would be like the USN naming a ship after Eisenhower.

@RM-we7px 2 года назад

Iron Duke?

@johnfisher9692 5 лет назад

As always an informative video. I've noticed the best way to tell a German BC from a German BB is to count the number of propeller shafts. German BC's always had 4 while the BB's had 3 shafts. I've read one of the weak points of the Germam BC's was thay turned slowly and lost a lot of speed doing so. How true was this?

@535phobos 5 лет назад

They apparently needed some time to get into the turn, but turned pretty well. Loss of speed seemed to be around 50-65%, which seems for me to be normal for ships this size. The battleships were similar. I dont know if the British turned faster.

@Locochris1956 4 года назад

It may be because the metacentre height was very high in German fleet ships this is the height of roll above the centre of gravity, german ships were not built to go across oceans but the Baltic and North Sea, crews were based in barracks and the freeboard in these ships was low all this made the ship a stable gun platform but a tendency to roll right over in a fast turn, the Nassaus were spectacularly bad in thus regard.

@johnfisher9692 4 года назад

@@Locochris1956 Thank you for the information. I have noticed that while many people fall over themself crowing about the 'strengths' of German designs they conveniently ignore the grave weaknesses of those said ships or the advantages their limited duration voyage design gave them.

@benwilson6145 3 года назад

@@Locochris1956 Not sure where you got your definition of Metacentric Height from? Never seen that one before.A large metacetric height would make the ship very stiff, leading to a very quick roll period, maybe not the best for gunnery? Also a large metacentric height would not allow the ship to roll over in a turn. a large GM. large righting lever?

@Locochris1956 3 года назад

@@benwilson6145 Well the Nassaus are clearly low due to the armament being on one plane and so they were very stiff, smaller wave forms in the North sea and baltic even then were a` problem and after Nassau nearly rolled over due to being too stiff whilst on trials it/they had to be fitted with bilge keels as a matter of urgency, UK ships had to be built to operate in all the worlds oceans some of which have differing conditions and were limited to 90 foot beam as opposed to the 100 feet of the German ships again making the German ships stiffer. a short stiff roll period should reduce the variation caused by the roll between slight elevations when it came to gunnery.

@sergarlantyrell7847 4 года назад

What an embarrassing way for Lutzow to go down, sailing backwards with her ass hanging out of the water. XD

@mariebcfhs9491 Год назад

Zis is Der-fflinger, it flings 30,5cm shells at the enemy.

@NikeaTiber 6 месяцев назад

I always wondered what a derf actually is. Thanks.

@Drachinifel 5 лет назад

Pinned post for Q&A :)

@stewartellinson8846 5 лет назад

Not a Q or an A but you mention often in various videos the (shall we say) poor french communication that led to the attack at Mers-el-Kebir; might a video about Operation Catapult be something to consider?

@Sodbusterrod 5 лет назад

You may want to check the pronunciation of Seydlitz.

@merafirewing6591 4 года назад

Could you do a review on the HMS Duke of Kent, the 175 gun ship-of-the-line?

@kieranoldroyd4748 5 лет назад

Might be a stupid question but why are there horizontal lines along the side of the ships in pre dreadnoughts and dreadnoughts

@Sir_David_Beatty 5 лет назад

I'm thinking you mean the Anti-Torpedo nets.

@vespelian5769 5 лет назад

Anti-torpedo nets. The Germans continued to be partial to them well into the war.

@TheOmegagoldfish 5 лет назад

@@vespelian5769 Did they work?

@JohnE9999 5 лет назад

@@TheOmegagoldfish The nets could only be used when the ship they were mounted on was stationary, i.e. at anchor. The entrances to anchorages are usually heavily patrolled, and were covered by anti-submarine nets back in the day. I haven't heard of ship mounted nets even getting a chance to try and stop a hostile torpedo. The nets were removed from ships because it eventually realized that they were far more likely to be loosened by battle damage and foul the ship's propellers, than they were to ever stop a torpedo.

@model-man7802 5 лет назад

@@TheOmegagoldfish we used them at Pearl Harbor after 1941.

@rossswenson532 5 лет назад

Hello I would be interested in a damage control comparison between the axis & allies. Many allied ships were horribly damaged yet survived to fight another day. Were these advantages because of design or training?

@Sodbusterrod 5 лет назад

In terms of survivability the German fleet had the advantage. Gary Staff analyzed comparable German and British battle cruisers and the Germans had 50% mores armor than British. Secondly, German ships were better designed to withstand battle damage. They had coal bunkers providing an additional layer of protection to the vitals of their ships that the British did not. The British emphasized firepower and speed in their designs. They could throw hundreds of pounds more of explosives per salvo because of their bigger guns, and their guns had greater range. In terms of training the Germans were better shots scoring a higher percentage of hits than the British. They were better equipped and trained in night fighting as well. If post battle repair time is an indicator of damage, the Germans suffered greater damage than the British. It took the Germans longer to get all their ships back in service than the British. The fact that the High Seas Fleet could make it home with such damage is a testimony to their survivability.

@rossswenson532 5 лет назад

@@Sodbusterrod Thank you for your answer. It gave me a little better understanding. I don't quite know why I'm fascinated by this history so much.

@Riazor1370 5 лет назад

Deflinger and Seydlizt had sustained the monstrous 15 inch shells punishment from British 5th super dread squadron in Jutland, and furthermore contributed inflicting damage to HMS Warspite. What a lucky ships.

@Sodbusterrod 5 лет назад

Luck? Opportunity met preparation.

@Riazor1370 5 лет назад

@@Sodbusterrod not so unlucky like Lutzow which sank by just couple 12 inch hit from Invincible.

@Sodbusterrod 5 лет назад

A couple of points. The Lützow took some of the heaviest damage of the battle- she was hit 24 times by large caliber shells. I was surprised the narrator said she was sunk in an exchange of gunfire mentioning only one ship. Any other source lists many more hits. There’s a saying that luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Derfflinger and Seydlitz were 2 well built ships and prepared crews that got their opportunity. It wasn’t so much luck that got them through as the preparation of the German Navy.

@Digmen1 3 года назад

Hi, you should change the title of the video to The Derflinger Class - not SMS Derfflinger Great video thanks

@MrArcher7 5 лет назад

Seems that the Bismarck class had their roots in this class.

@riebenzahl-524 5 лет назад

More or less, but it influenced the the SMS Bayern class battleships, which had 38 cm guns the first time, overall design didn't change so much, but components got more modern: aiming computer, better optics, radar......oh an most of it all: diesel engine as this was firlsty used in such capitle ships since the Deutschland class "pocket battleships" (extended range and speed)

@bkjeong4302 5 лет назад

The Bismarcks were basically upsized, much faster Bayerns with more advanced fire control and radar. Which is partly why their armour design was terrible by WWII standards.

@mattbowden4996 3 года назад

@@bkjeong4302 That's a common myth, but it's not true as even a superficial glance at the plans of the two ships would show. The Bismarcks were based on the Scharnhorsts and the Scharnhorsts did not have very much to do with the Imperial German Dreadnoughts at all.