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SmythBusters: Synthetic Stocks are Better Than Wood
In the world of firearms, the debate between using synthetic stocks and wood stocks is a touchy subject, filled with varying opinions and preferences. This article delves into the nuances of this debate, exploring the advantages and disadvantages of each material to help shooters make an informed decision.
Introduction
The choice between synthetic and wood stocks for rifles and shotguns is more than just a matter of aesthetics; it impacts the functionality, durability, and performance of the firearm. While some shooters swear by the traditional feel and look of wood, others prefer the modern, durable nature of synthetic stocks. But what really sets them apart?
The Case for Wood Stocks
Wood has been the material of choice for firearm stocks for centuries, prized for its natural beauty and the traditional appearance it lends to firearms. High-quality woods like walnut are often used, offering a unique look thanks to their grains and finishes.
Advantages of Wood Stocks:
- **Aesthetics**: Wood stocks offer a classic, elegant look that many shooters find appealing.
- **Tradition**: For many, wood stocks carry historical significance and a sense of continuity with the past.
- **Customization**: Wood stocks can be carved, checkered, or inlaid, allowing for a high degree of personalization.
However, wood stocks are not without their drawbacks. They are susceptible to environmental factors such as humidity and temperature, which can cause the wood to warp or swell, potentially affecting the firearm's accuracy. Additionally, wood stocks require more maintenance to keep them in good condition and are generally more expensive than their synthetic counterparts.
The Rise of Synthetic Stocks
Synthetic stocks, made from materials like fiberglass, carbon fiber, and polymers, have gained popularity due to their durability and performance in various environmental conditions.
Advantages of Synthetic Stocks:
- **Durability**: Synthetic stocks are resistant to water, temperature changes, and physical impacts, making them ideal for rough use.
- **Consistency**: Unlike wood, synthetic materials do not warp or swell, offering consistent performance.
- **Maintenance**: Synthetic stocks require less upkeep compared to wood, making them more convenient for frequent use.
While synthetic stocks offer practical benefits, they lack the warmth and individual character of wood stocks. Some shooters find them less aesthetically pleasing, and the feel of synthetic materials does not always match the comfort and grip provided by wood.
Customization and Performance
Both wood and synthetic stocks can be customized for enhanced performance. Techniques such as glass bedding and the installation of aluminum pillars can improve the accuracy of wood stocks, making them comparable to synthetic ones in terms of performance.
Conclusion
The choice between synthetic and wood stocks boils down to personal preference, intended use, and budget. While synthetic stocks offer practical advantages in terms of durability and maintenance, wood stocks hold a special place in the hearts of many shooters for their beauty and tradition. Ultimately, the best stock is the one that meets the shooter's needs, preferences, and conditions under which the firearm will be used.

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@jme92685
@jme92685 3 месяца назад
For looks, wood. Not debatable. For weather resistance, synthetic. Also not debatable.
@xPumaFangx
@xPumaFangx 3 месяца назад
You can do the same thing with wood as you can do with synthetic. It just costs more. It is the point of the video. Really it comes to cost.
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 3 месяца назад
Rain does not damage wood that has been varnished. Plastic can break in extreme cold.
@somerandomassguyontheinter2869
@somerandomassguyontheinter2869 3 месяца назад
i don’t know. some guns just look better with synthetic stocks, especially AR platforms and some other more modern stuff.
@kennithmorella2693
@kennithmorella2693 3 месяца назад
WOODEN STOCKS ARE BEAUTIFUL TO THE EYES 👀 AND HANDS 🙌. I’m 68 years old 60 of them with a long gun or handgun with wooden stocks that are alive and well to this day. Proud To pass them on to my sons and granddaughter. 🇺🇸
@pablodelsegundo9502
@pablodelsegundo9502 3 месяца назад
I have to agree. I'm no snob and have nothing against polymer stocks, but I will always gravitate toward wooden ones first.
@unionrdr
@unionrdr 3 месяца назад
I'll be 68 on Easter Sunday. Same here. I grew up with wood-n-steel guns. The heavier wood stocked ones can be more stable when aiming too. But I have a Remington 725VTR .25M I had masked and dipped in Edge camo. Good for up to mid-size game to 100yds. A bit lighter, but still accurate. On the other end of the spectrum, I have an M1A/M14 that weighs in at 9.9lbs. Heavy, but stable shooter.
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 3 месяца назад
Can you imagine handing your grandson a rifle made of plastic and aluminum?
@australianmade2659
@australianmade2659 3 месяца назад
I’m no 48. I only have wooden guns. I had one synthetic and sold it as it was soulless. All have iron sites only.
@chrislawson8568
@chrislawson8568 3 месяца назад
If we could ever smear the stuff Caleb uses on his hair on a stock we'd be in great shape. Good video as always fellas 🤣
@gofastjet
@gofastjet 3 месяца назад
Hoppes #9 hair gel
@chrislawson8568
@chrislawson8568 3 месяца назад
@@gofastjet That's also my favorite cologne !!
@Darthdoodoo
@Darthdoodoo 3 месяца назад
He uses true oil mixed with 20% clp and 5% ballistol 😂😂😂
@controlledchaos8851
@controlledchaos8851 3 месяца назад
Yooo 😂😂😂😂
@davidsallee8584
@davidsallee8584 3 месяца назад
Oh well at least he has hair 🙂🙂
@Alianderfarm
@Alianderfarm 3 месяца назад
I ordered a rifle with Presidential grade wood. When I picked it up at an FFL store every employee said they never saw a rifle with such a beautiful wood grain. I didn’t realize how big a mistake I made until I started carrying it into the woods. I found myself more concerned about not scratching the rifle instead of hunting as I should. Before the season was out I placed an order for a synthetic stock rifle. Very happy.
@cm0cm
@cm0cm 3 месяца назад
Put a ding in it. Its gonna happen eventually, might as well get it over with!
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 месяца назад
FWIW, there is a solution for the problem of having too pretty of a stock. 1) Buy a drop-in synthetic stock to put on the rifle with the pretty stock for hunting, which allows you to keep that gorgeous stock for the rest of the time. 2) Do what I did and buy yourself a product called a "Gun Chap" made by the now-defunct company Kane. Some of these are still out there, but there's also the currently manufactured Boca Shield that is very similar. The Gun Chap is made of vinyl (usually with a camo pattern) that wraps around the whole stock, protecting it nicely. My 1984-manufactured Marlin 39A has worn a Gun Chap since shortly after I received it for my 16th birthday, and the stock still looks brand new.
@5jjt
@5jjt 3 месяца назад
Put some camo tape on the wood stock. What's the point of owning a stock "too beautiful to carry?"
@uwesca6263
@uwesca6263 3 месяца назад
You could run it for the season and then refurbish it at the end. Polishing a wooden stock aint that hard.
@lelenbates3367
@lelenbates3367 3 месяца назад
I have fallen down a rock hillside with my Weatherby when the hillside gave way under my feet and it just added character.
@edhalson3154
@edhalson3154 3 месяца назад
Interesting discussion gentlemen. Actually, from listening to you present your theories, I think for the following is the answer you just passed on. 1 Wood can look better for those who like that look. 2. Synthetic is more durable in harsh conditions or from rough handling 3. Both wood and synthetic NEED to be bedded correctly and stiffened for accuracy 4. It is all in the bedding and making the stock stable - regardless of material. 5. Beauty, and practicality, are in the eye of the owner! So....neither is better or worse. Now, lets discuss the best cartridge on the market! (I'm now running for my bunker!)
@propagandalf123
@propagandalf123 3 месяца назад
I beg to differ. Wood is objectively better, it's just more costly both in money but also time and effort to maintain correctly. And for the best cartridge (did you mean caliber? because for the cartridge that depends on caliber and target): I'll give my favourite calibers: Pistol: 9mm Parabellum/Luger Intermediate cartridge: 7,92x33 Full caliber: 7,92x57 IS Long range: .338 Lapua Magnum (as you probably can tell, I like German WW2 guns)
@rodofiron100
@rodofiron100 3 месяца назад
I will almost always chose wood over synthetic, just because I like how extra weight helps me with accuracy
@yodasecondave
@yodasecondave 3 месяца назад
I also prefer the extra heft of wood for recoil reasons.
@sstrongman1667
@sstrongman1667 3 месяца назад
You could always add weight to a stock easily.
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 3 месяца назад
Yep people can argue about that forever . Actually I have and use both. I think they both have their place but I have to admit my admiration for a beautiful done wood stock. Appreciate the video.
@thomaslomeo2736
@thomaslomeo2736 3 месяца назад
Absolutely absolutely great to see you guys back
@chadillac95
@chadillac95 3 месяца назад
2:36 "hunting white tail in Louisiana" Caleb, you realize HOW HUMID it is in Louisiana, right?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
You know when white tail season is?
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 3 месяца назад
Chad I had the same thought… is there part of Louisiana that doesn’t have swamps?
@lelandgaunt9985
@lelandgaunt9985 3 месяца назад
@@chipsterb4946 Plenty
@smsgtbulldog
@smsgtbulldog 3 месяца назад
I live in southern Louisiana and have converted some of my wooden stocks to synthetic with aluminum bedding blocks. Been happy with the results thus far!!!
@CalebSavant
@CalebSavant 3 месяца назад
is it?
@jfruser
@jfruser 3 месяца назад
Yep, the boys nailed it. And I turned my son's .243Win Ruger Compact American Rifle into a reliable tack driver with a Boyd's laminate stock. Very nice and flashy.
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 3 месяца назад
But it's heavier, that's one of the reasons I went with a synthetic stock, weight.
@peterreily1490
@peterreily1490 3 месяца назад
This comment, specifically the rifle is the only one I’d say yeah go laminate, which I guess is the Gino ally kind of wood. But the ruger American gen 1 stocks had trash synthetic that always bent.
@chadillac95
@chadillac95 3 месяца назад
Except that laminate is so heavy!
@jfruser
@jfruser 3 месяца назад
Everything y'all say is true. The Gen 1 synthetic stock was more a limp noodle in stock costume.
@jimak4947
@jimak4947 3 месяца назад
I live in Alaska. I learned early that blued wood stock rifles quickly turned into rusty rifles with warped stocks. Even stainless steel suffers up here, especially around salt water. Cerakote helps. So does Rustoleum.
@rickyramirez3483
@rickyramirez3483 3 месяца назад
Great conversation, guys!
@tehunter6569
@tehunter6569 3 месяца назад
Blued steel and walnut. Done.
@pchntm
@pchntm 3 месяца назад
Hi, always enjoy these episodes. I was watching an older one from two years ago and I think you guys have a bit of an audio issue in this video. There is more tin in the voice range than it should. Fyi, thank you again!
@chrisowen5497
@chrisowen5497 3 месяца назад
I use both synthetic and wood, but always choose wood if it is an available option. Seal the wood properly as well as bed it, and you won’t have a problem. With synthetic, don’t go cheap. Cheap synthetic is crap! I don’t have any experience with chassis stocks, but who knows what the future holds. Great video!
@lubrew5862
@lubrew5862 3 месяца назад
The wood will still move with changes in temperature and moisture in the air. I have yet to see a gun with treatment that will prevent any moisture from entering the wood. Plus the wood has to be properly dried before and during creating the stock. If done properly will there be very minimal wood movement. Yes, but there will always be some movement
@chrisowen5497
@chrisowen5497 3 месяца назад
I admittedly don’t do much hunting in super wet weather, but I have a T/C Compass that I purchased for super cheap that I use for that purpose. It is 30-06 with a crappy stock, and a better replacement trigger spring. It works great for that purpose. If it is damp/drizzling, I don’t usually worry much about my wood stocked rifles, except a quick wipe down when I get back. When I first get it, I remove the wood stock and seal the inside, before they are used for hunting. I also have a Rem 700 in a hogue stock, like the one Caleb showed. It is very sturdy and grippy. They also make them with pillar bedding, but I haven’t tried one of those. I guess I just love the wood and know how to take care of it.
@robertosantiago6028
@robertosantiago6028 3 месяца назад
Good to see "Esteban"...😂 ...back...please keep the dynamic duo!...👍
@brucechynoweth
@brucechynoweth 3 месяца назад
Time to Stock up !!
@Win52D
@Win52D 3 месяца назад
Both have their place and I have both but IMHO synthetic stocks while practical are ugly as sin. I prefer wood stocks on all my firearms if I can get them.
@richardfabbri1989
@richardfabbri1989 3 месяца назад
Wood is beautiful but synthetic is more practical 😊
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 3 месяца назад
Wood is actually more practical. It’s all around us in abundance and has been used successfully for centuries….
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 3 месяца назад
@@Simon-talksclearly you have never rucked 30 miles with wood. Synthetic is far more practical by modern standards
@Simon-talks
@Simon-talks 3 месяца назад
@@Sig_P229 You're right, we rucked 57 miles in the Army, with 150 lbs of gear on and repelled out of helicopters with it.
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 3 месяца назад
@@Simon-talks with M240s? If so would you have wanted a lighter M16 instead? Common sense, right?
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 3 месяца назад
@@Simon-talks also I am a Marine and former Army Officer. So where exactly did you ruck 57 miles at once with 150 lbs of gear?
@user-eg3ew8mq3g
@user-eg3ew8mq3g 2 месяца назад
excellent video guys as usually. how about one on chassis with the pros & cons including the benefits of installing weights and the latest butt rubber inserts by MDT. Do rubber butt inserts & weights help. I say yes especially when target shooting as it stabilizes the rifle and deadens some of the vibrations.
@antonioadinolfi4052
@antonioadinolfi4052 3 месяца назад
Great video. I really like these mythbuster videos.
@lelenbates3367
@lelenbates3367 3 месяца назад
I have an early 90's Weatherby Vanguard that has beautiful walnut stock that is fully beaded with a steel shank that used to shot a one inch 3-shot group with 150 federal soft points at the 200 yard range consistently from the bench. It's chambered in 7 Rem Mag and the after 2,000+ rounds or so the accuracy is not as good as it once was so I am thinking of having it re barrelled with a 1:8 twist and fluted barrel and that is about $600, I really love this rifle, but that is a lot of money for just a barrel so I started looking at new rifles and narrowed it down to a Tikka or CVA Cascade XT (Bergara). The Bergara's are heavy so I am thinking Tikka. Yesterday I went to a local store and looked at the Tikka X3 rifles and I saw a rifle in 7 Rem Mag with a stainless fluted 24.3" barrel and asked to look at it and it had an odd colored synthetic stock. It felt great in the hand the the stock felt better than the other synthetic stocks and it was less than 7 lbs. It turns out that that weird colored synthetic stock is actually wood, it is a Tikka X3 Hunter. The wood is quite plain and ugly compared to my Weatherby with it's figured walnut with rose wood tip, but it just feel right in my hand.
@TuttleScott
@TuttleScott 3 месяца назад
wood stocks do look better but it hurts when they get dinged up too. I've got a big gouge in one of my favorite plinkers and I cant ignore it.
@undeadbrosm41a39
@undeadbrosm41a39 3 месяца назад
My Weatherby Mk5 has an awesome wood stock, but I take my Vanguard S2 synthetic in the woods more often.
@snakeman48
@snakeman48 3 месяца назад
I still have my Nylon 66. I will until I die. I like laminated wood stocks, or any stock with a aluminum bedding block installed. Like the green one Caleb showed.
@davidellenbaum1229
@davidellenbaum1229 3 месяца назад
beauty of wood
@lindeleasley
@lindeleasley 3 месяца назад
My Savage Axis 6.5 CM had a synthetic stock that was flimsy like tinfoil. I replaced the stock with a walnut Boyds AT-One, and haven't looked back. I had the pillars installed and it's far more accurate now than it was when new.
@evilscience3164
@evilscience3164 3 месяца назад
My older Remington 700 VS in .308 is a sub MOA rifle with handloads. It has an aluminum bedding block. Having said that I own a Boyds walnut stock on my CMP M1 that is fantastic, it fits almost like a bedded stock.
@maurogarcia6512
@maurogarcia6512 3 месяца назад
What is the brand name of the Synthetic Stock with the full Aluminum block from front to back? It is the one closest to the camera.
@JW-fq1pp
@JW-fq1pp 3 месяца назад
I saw some used rifles with Boyd's stocks at my local Cabela's recently. They seemed a little on the heavy side. As an aside, I did recently acquire an old Stevens 22 bolt action that had a painted stock. When I stripped the paint off I found that it had some extensive repairs done, looked like it had been run over. The repairs are strong and the stock is straight, but it was ugly. I dug out the bondo (yes, bondo) and replaced it with wood filler that gives a better match to the wood stock. Still considering if I want to go back in and try to replace all the filler with some inlaid veneers.
@B2k4E
@B2k4E 3 месяца назад
One thing to consider in regard to wood stocks is the grade of wood used. A lot of older firearms have furniture made from trees that were hundreds of years old, while newer production firearms may have wood from tree farms that are only 20-40 years old. I have a new production SA M1A that the wood just feels soft and dents easily, but the wood on my old surplus rifles (like my M1 Garand) feels much more solid and doesn’t dent nearly as easily.
@microsoft790
@microsoft790 3 месяца назад
I think the type of wood matters a lot. I chose mesquite instead of typical woods because of its hardness and interlocked grain. It's over twice as hard as walnut and the imperfections in the wood seem to strengthen it instead of creating weak spots
@rayc.1396
@rayc.1396 3 месяца назад
I have used both, then and now. I glass bed my wood stocks and put a little glass in may synthetics to keep them where they are on the first shot.
@AirForceAce3571
@AirForceAce3571 3 месяца назад
Having hunted with both, I’m in the camp of synthetics. Not only are they resistant to damage and to moisture/weather (I hunt in the north east US in cold and snowy/rainy conditions), but synthetic stock rifles tend to be more affordable as well as lighter weight. If you have to trudge and carry your rifle a long distance and/or over rough terrain (as I did elk hunting in Montana last year!), synthetic is superior. Walnut still comes out on top for aesthetics and nostalgia but isn’t as functional. For me, I want lighter, more weather resistant, and more affordable so synthetics take it for me. But both can and do get the job done, so all comes down to what’s most important to each person
@ultrahighgain412
@ultrahighgain412 3 месяца назад
I agree with you for the same reasons. I absolutely love the look and feel of a beautiful walnut stock, but for the kind of hunting I do, synthetic is better. I also live in the northeast.
@JohnSmith-dh4gw
@JohnSmith-dh4gw 3 месяца назад
In 1982 my Ruger 77 was trashed an airline. My brother was in a student in a gunsmithing school at the time and
@josephdipko2547
@josephdipko2547 3 месяца назад
I'd prefer wood, always have ...if stock is cheap, definitely take the wood over synthetic. Cheaply made ones fold like Tupperware, as I'm sure these gentlemen know. Another good video though
@richadent968
@richadent968 3 месяца назад
What about laminated stocks? I think the may be the best.
@theaccountwhichshantbename1250
@theaccountwhichshantbename1250 2 месяца назад
If your weather is that chaotic your scope is gonna be too fogged up for the stock to matter 3:56
@tankfighter2767
@tankfighter2767 3 месяца назад
My newest hunting rofles are an m98 sporter and a howa, the 98 has a custom wood stock, the howa synthetic. They're are both sharp, but I'd be less hesitant to use the howa in the snow though
@H.R.6688
@H.R.6688 3 месяца назад
I think both are good at different things, but, as to quote the late and great Billy mays, "I love beautiful wood, don't you?"
@bp814
@bp814 3 месяца назад
Those laminated stocks are very humidity resistant due to the epoxy layering in the process. One doesn't have to worry about warping and they are exceptionally strong. I couldn't argue with anything they said. So ditto. Thanks guys.
@lubrew5862
@lubrew5862 3 месяца назад
There will always be movement in the wood. At least every stock I have seen. The process the manufacturer would have to go through to make the movement virtually none existent isn’t used by any gun company I have known of. Will that movement be enough to affect the accuracy to the point where the vast majority of hunters/shooters will notice? No, most people are not nearly that accurate. The reason I keep using the disclaimer that I know of? Is because there may be some high end boutique custom maker I have never heard of did or seen their process.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 3 месяца назад
Wood is great but requires a lot of upkeep. Synthetic doesn't rot, dry out, swell up, or wrap or crack as easily as wood in field conditions
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Yeah, my grandfathers rifles are just rotting and warped so bad the barrels are bent. That is sarcasm. What you wrote is false.
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 3 месяца назад
I'm a cabinet maker by trade & with all my hand tools, I prefer wood , I just like the way it feels in my hand. With firearms, it all depends on the guns looks/purpose..
@heatherrigby7371
@heatherrigby7371 2 месяца назад
Is the thermal expansion of aluminum not much greater than that of steel? Please can you explain why large temperature swings in an the environment would not torque an inaccuracy into a steel / aluminum combination? I am usually pretty confident that I am usually incorrect while asking these questions but I just want to understand it better, respectfully. Thanks Don
@gamerlegacy
@gamerlegacy 3 месяца назад
Honestly if you're not shooting any super long ranges or working between extreme weather changes I think either option is perfectly fine. I have both, like both. If I was going to do an ELR build I'd use synthetic, but my main deer rifle has a wood stock.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 месяца назад
All but two of my long guns wear a walnut stock,with the exceptions being the birch stock on my Remington 870 and my AR-15 clones that (of course) has the traditional black polymer. That adds up to ten out of eleven long guns with traditional wood stocks...not one is even laminate.
@dudespin
@dudespin 3 месяца назад
Early in my gun collection I was all about the modern synthetic plastics but 20 some years later my preference turned to older guns with wooden furniture rifles and pistols. In pistols most guns are now Glock like very few pistols are sold with wooden furniture maybe just some older guns in the used gun market.
@bradmaas6875
@bradmaas6875 3 месяца назад
Is a wood stock that's been modified with aluminum and fiber glass, still a wooden stock?
@Fister_of_Muppets
@Fister_of_Muppets 3 месяца назад
I've recently gotten into chassis stocks, and frankly that's where it's really at for accuracy. But for the hybrid hunting/accuracy rifle, a Bergara B14 has a synthetic stock that's overmolded around an aluminum chassis with full length aluminum pillars. Might not be as pretty as wood but it is much more functional out of the box.
@c-zonenurkot9399
@c-zonenurkot9399 3 месяца назад
If a change is required to properly fit a gun then a single option there , the wooden stock. Stock which made by synthetic material is moulded so impossible to make any change in it.
@carboss
@carboss 3 месяца назад
Good breakdown. What I heard is it is possible to make a wood stock as good as a synthetic, but it's gonna take some work.
@curteaton
@curteaton 3 месяца назад
I heard your wood will suffer from shrinkage when it's cold. I'm a child.
@carboss
@carboss 3 месяца назад
​@curteaton, that is why i strap on the synthetic.
@michaelgomez3044
@michaelgomez3044 3 месяца назад
I wish they still made gun chaps for wooden stocks. A company called Kane made them. I only have one, but it does work on both of my rifles.
@mikehilliard3229
@mikehilliard3229 3 месяца назад
40+ year old walnut stock with an oil finish scratchs bumbs and bruises. Still groups moa. I love the character and memories it give me! With that said Never met a gun I didn't like!
@Jeff11776
@Jeff11776 3 месяца назад
Just have to love good walnut. Early on like you two said synthetic not so good. Have a blessed day.
@donschneider7252
@donschneider7252 3 месяца назад
I prefer wood stocks depending on the design. I find some of the synthetic to be a bit slippery when shooting with gloves in sub zero weather. Depends on finish and design of course and caliber/ magnum. Personal preference...
@snakebite210
@snakebite210 3 месяца назад
Is poi shift a thing when humidity fluctuates?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Everything is at distance.
@dennismorin3295
@dennismorin3295 3 месяца назад
Laminate is the way to go for looks and durability😎
@reefread1234
@reefread1234 3 месяца назад
Has any one tried the magpul stocks for savage rifles?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
They work great
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 3 месяца назад
I’ve never had my walnut stock warp or change. It is a high gloss stock though, I don’t think moisture can penetrate it.
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 3 месяца назад
Even if it wasn’t high gloss, do you really think that someone would take the time to craft and machine hardwood into a polished piece of art without finish to protect it?
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 3 месяца назад
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 I think one that is just oil rubbed could still absorb moisture as wood is porous. The high gloss ones are completely sealed with an epoxy
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 3 месяца назад
@@JohnDoe-ud2cc “oil rubbed” isn’t motor oil, it’s a penetrating finish like boiled linseed oil. A high gloss isn’t normal achieved by epoxy, it’s by polyurethane
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 3 месяца назад
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 I refinish my share of stocks. I know it’s not motor oil and cheap stocks are refinished in poly mine is done in epoxy
@sixoffive
@sixoffive 3 месяца назад
Is there a synthetic stock that looks like a natural wood stock?
@aowi7280
@aowi7280 3 месяца назад
Did Mattel make the stocks for the M-16s in the 60'S?
@derekbootle8316
@derekbootle8316 3 месяца назад
As with everything....depends.
@jonahkolell
@jonahkolell 3 месяца назад
The audio sounds bugged
@unionrdr
@unionrdr 3 месяца назад
I prefer the look and feel of wood stocks. I collect vintage air rifles, besides a few downright antique powder burners. Synthetic stocks can crack and break, whereas wood stocks will just ding or scratch if properly made. Like the old Crosman air/Co2 rifles that were good old-fashioned wood-n-steel shoot better than the new plastic ones. And the internals can be upgraded or modded to more modern power levels. I enjoy doing that sort of thing.
@chrisfournier6144
@chrisfournier6144 3 месяца назад
Understand how wood moves with change in humidity and you can see that wood movement is a microscopic issue. Now durability inn inclement conditions? That’s down to finish. I have wood, synthetic and aluminum chassis guns. I like them all for their purpose.
@proaquatics4005
@proaquatics4005 3 месяца назад
For extreme target shooting or rough terrain hunting I’d go with synthetic but for deer, turkey, or light target shooting either is fine I think
@morphthedude
@morphthedude 2 месяца назад
Video idea: Can you mount a 0 moa cantilever backwards?
@Condor1970
@Condor1970 3 месяца назад
Which is better? For the answer, the only question you have to ask yourself is, "Better for what?"
@joehughes6337
@joehughes6337 3 месяца назад
Laminate?
@awsomedude9111
@awsomedude9111 3 месяца назад
I wanted to find a wood AR15 stock in Carbine/rifle buffer length. Most I found were using fake synthetic pressed wood. I’m not sure if Caleb’s voice recording is echoing from being recorded twice. No biggie, using iPhone speakers.
@BearlyOutdoors
@BearlyOutdoors 3 месяца назад
What is a chasie?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Geek term for what the action and barrel sit in. Think of a high dollar competition style rifle.
@franktower9006
@franktower9006 3 месяца назад
Define better. Better looking? Better feeling? Easier to maintain? Holding up better?
@boblynch2802
@boblynch2802 3 месяца назад
I think this lesson was learned in Vietnam with the M-14s. The wood for whatever reason did not hold well to the tropical environment. Would like to know more details though.
@B2k4E
@B2k4E 3 месяца назад
If I remember correctly, the upper handguards of the first M14’s were made of wood, and the fitment of the upper HG does play a part in the zero and accuracy of the rifle. Since it’s a fairly thin piece of wood compared to the stock it had a tendency to warp and crack due to conditions in SE Asia. They ended up going to a fiberglass reinforced polymer material for the upper handguard that remedied that issue.
@0sm1um76
@0sm1um76 3 месяца назад
I know this lesson was also learned in Vietnam with the early M40 bolt action rifles with wooden stocks. I think they used the standard off the shelf Remington 700 stock available at the time but quickly switched to synthetic.
@Cr0wmagnum
@Cr0wmagnum 3 месяца назад
I'm definitely in the laminated category. Wood is good and plastic is fantastic.
@rbm6184
@rbm6184 3 месяца назад
Thin plastic stocks have a lot of movement to them. Movement affects accuracy. Wood stocks reduce the movement of a barreled action. Laminated wood stocks do not warp from water. The wood drying, CNC machining, and finishing today have all but eliminated movement. A gun stock gives a solid base to anchor the barreled action. It should assist and dampen the vibration when the trigger is pulled and it assists in reducing the movement of the barreled action. If the stock is hollow or flexible it allows the barreled action to move creating additional barrel whip, face slap, recoil, all making it difficult to remain on target and greatly affects accuracy. When shown side by side you can see the difference between rigid and solid versus hollow and flexible and not all of the movement is around the barreled action. The thinner weaker plastic stock grip can flex greatly causing barrel whip even if the barreled action is secured. If you are not as concerned with accuracy then a plastic stock is accurate enough but if you are concerned with precision then a wood stock is better. To some folks there is a big difference between a 1.37 inch group at 100 yards and a .67 inch group at 100 yards.
@ETHRON1
@ETHRON1 3 месяца назад
It's a matter of "Personal Preference"... Wood is esthetically pleasing to look at and is harder and heavier than most polymer stocks... Synthetic/polymer stocks are durable, weather resistant and lighter (in most cases) and is cheaper than wood...they also can be molded to be more ergonomic as well.
@samsnephew3209
@samsnephew3209 3 месяца назад
Unless you consider resale value, collection value , appearance, recoil tolerance. . .
@davidt1269
@davidt1269 3 месяца назад
MDT Timbr is the perfect balance of the two in my opinion.
@marshalllapenta7656
@marshalllapenta7656 3 месяца назад
Question? What about a Bakelite stock? Or a fiberglass stock?
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Those are synthetic materials
@kodiakkeith
@kodiakkeith 3 месяца назад
I spent most of my life in Kodiak where it rains, snows and sleets 300 days a year (or something like that) and hunted all over Alaska. I never had a single issue with wood stocks and supposed loss of accuracy. Plastic/nylon stocks are just cheap for manufacturers to stamp out and so they've created a phony "problem" to make consumers pay the same amount for a cheaper product. If you want a plastic stock, fine, but don't think it solves any kind of problem. You're just increasing the profit margin for the manufacturer. With that said, a wood stock does need to be properly bedded and depending on use may need to be lacquered every five or ten years. It takes about an hour to run some fine grit sandpaper over the wood and give it a thin coat of linseed or tung oil, and that maintenance as I said, is only required with a heavily used rifle after years of use.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Agreed. Most people don’t have a clue what heavy use is. Maybe their rifles get out 3-4 times per year, to a public bench range.
@Darthdoodoo
@Darthdoodoo 3 месяца назад
Im still waiting for glock to make an ar style upper that goes in the regular glock frames that makes it a legit pcc type thing. Like the s&w m&p carbine that has the same grip as the pistol except they should make it modular so u can just carry an upper and a pistol and be covered
@chadperry4021
@chadperry4021 3 месяца назад
I’ve had both prefer wood. Lately I’ve been wanting to work more with fiberglass and carbon fiber. maybe a good video idea
@user-de1lg4sz4l
@user-de1lg4sz4l 3 месяца назад
Can you all clearly and concisely articulate the difference between a "chassis" and a "stock," please? I've been unable to find a way to define objective differences (distinctions aren't the same as differences).
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 3 месяца назад
The problem with most aluminum is it is actually worse than wood for expansion/contraction. I would get a synthetic but not one like that aluminum covered with synthetic you showed. If I sealed the wood up myself (as I have done before) then a wood stock seems just fine and definitely looks so much better.
@sonicrose8430
@sonicrose8430 3 месяца назад
As someone from the Clay shooting world. Any true sportsmen knows the value of a beautiful wood and steel shotgun There’s an interesting “traditionalism” in the Clay Shooting world I’ve noticed over the years. Anywhere you look on the course you’ll see simple Over-Under shotguns with stunningly beautiful Wood stocks and metal receivers and NO ONE who is a dedicated Clay shooter uses a synthetic gun with tactical style plastic furniture. (I know just calling an over under Clay gun design “simple” is insane but you know what I mean the simplicity of the O/U design itself not the details)
@bp814
@bp814 3 месяца назад
One other type is the carbon fiber which are awesome! Super lightweight and fun to shoot in the 6.5 and 308 variety. I have a Howa 20" in 6.5 and weighs 6lbs 1oz with a 4x16 scope! Feels like a Daisy 880 or possibly lighter.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 3 месяца назад
Falls under synthetic professor
@normanmallory2055
@normanmallory2055 3 месяца назад
For my 56 years out there in the sports of hunting and sport shooting , I’ve been a wood stock man ! 25 years ago I bought a synthetic stock for one of my rifles ( due to weight issues ) I liked it for function but every time I picked it up , it just didn’t feel or have the right feel 😂 For mountain hunting, say Dall sheep , a synthetic stock is the one I would go to for a mountain rifle !
@markdubois3614
@markdubois3614 3 месяца назад
Wood with that bowling ball finish looks amazing and takes any kind of weather.
@JewTubeSux
@JewTubeSux 3 месяца назад
I love my McMillan fiberglass stock on my M40A1...
@tankmeister8131
@tankmeister8131 3 месяца назад
Wood stocks have that special feel and they absorb shock better. Synthetic get more slippery when wet, but I still love the nylon 66.
@terrylabiche7772
@terrylabiche7772 3 месяца назад
Chris Griesbach in thr33 hills alberta , built a laminate that holds perfect zero after disassembly/assembly better that my McMillan stuff 🤓
@guidichris
@guidichris 3 месяца назад
I wouldn't watch the video if the answer was obvious. What defines better?
@DesertRat.45
@DesertRat.45 3 месяца назад
Its choices.
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 3 месяца назад
Wood swells and warps depending on humidity and temperature, laminated wood is resistant to this to a degree.
@rapterattack
@rapterattack 3 месяца назад
For looks I'd say wooden stock with blued finish. For hunting I'd go synthetic stock with stainless steel (it's wet and humid where I go).
@MerpSquirrel
@MerpSquirrel 2 месяца назад
Wood is like the wood interior an paneling on old cars. You dont actually want it to structure but as trim it would be nice. Like the Woox stuff.
@joshuabessire9169
@joshuabessire9169 3 месяца назад
I prefer Snoopy to Woodstock.
@r.t.rakubio5088
@r.t.rakubio5088 3 месяца назад
I Love wood stocks but for the areas I live in I have a lot of synthetic lately they just seem to hold up.
@shauno7582
@shauno7582 3 месяца назад
Caleb’s hair hasn’t moved since they started this channel 😂
@brownells
@brownells 3 месяца назад
Synthetic.. jk jk
@shauno7582
@shauno7582 3 месяца назад
@@brownells 😂😂 gold 👏🏼
@user-iq9uu9mh7k
@user-iq9uu9mh7k 3 месяца назад
This why i cut my stocks in half and have synthetic on one side and wood on the other.
@sweetbarry
@sweetbarry 3 месяца назад
Tikka supplies an Arctic rifle for the Canadian Rangers that has a wood laminate stock. The synthetics could potentially crack from impact in the extreme cold.
@woodrowcall3158
@woodrowcall3158 3 месяца назад
What is the laminate held together with?
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