I just wanted it to be about love. The recent men hating women,women hating men,made everything so toxic. That things being about love is dying 😂. I don't care who save who but I really miss the concept of " love overcomes everything"
Yes, she says that a man won't save her, yet she dreams of being the leader she knows she can be, and the one her father (a man) told her should could become if she was all those things. I mean, maybe she would have never figured it out herself without daddy telling her what she can be. Remember, they are aiming at your children here. They are counting on young couples with young children taking them to see this moving without ever having to see or understand the original story.
Snow White's strength came from her kindness. She was poor and lonely but she kept her spirit up singing and enjoying life, she had that kind of strength not many people have. Her being soft and nice was why she was so loved by everyone, even the animals. She manages to win over the huntsman, the dwarfs and everyone around. Humility is not a weakness, it can be a virtue. This actress could have learned from that.
@@donaldb.9995 Thank you, don't worry, I got it. It was just helpful to me. As a non native english speaker I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for your comment so I appreciate it.
Snow White was already a strong women. She got away from her stepmother and she found kindness, love from 7 great friends that valued her. She was incredibly thankful so She took care of their house for them while they were working. Strong women can be incredibly thankful and generous too! She went through hell at home still manage to find live in her heart for others. That right there says everything.
Not just strong, a leader too. That's the irony of this whole thing, Snow White is actually a pretty modern story, except for the kiss in the end. It's too iconic scene to change, but can be fixed easily by giving them a little more history than just one meeting. If their first scene shows an already mature (secret) relationship, then the kiss is fine. Oh, and the queen is also a strong female character. Most of the plot is driven by the female characters, the males have mostly passive roles.
@@sidnotvicious8442 Kissing the corpse of a girl he barely knows? I think there are issues with that. It's not super bad, but it would easy to fix. It's probably worse that they just fall in love and get married without knowing anything about each other, just because one is pretty and the other is a prince. Again, it's an easy fix, just give a few hints that they've known each other for a bit longer.
@@andrasbiro3007 If there was some girl lying there comatose, and the only way to bring them around was to have a prince kiss her gently on the lips, I think her loved ones would handle that.
@@TheDoctor394 Yes, but nobody knew at the time. It's a bit of a weakness of the movie actually. Not just ethically, but logically too. A glass coffin is not exactly usual, it only makes sense because the plot needs the prince to kiss her long after she was declared dead.
Agreed. It promises to be a train wreck. Hopefully, Disney will lose $100 million or more and take the hint. I'm not sure they will though. Seems like with their losses lately they just double down.
Modern women.. Always complaining about living a life of endless unearned advantages.. And their solution is always to give them more unearned advantages..
Female narcissists have to paint themselves as victims otherwise people pay more attention to victims than them. Male narcissists don't do the whole victimhood thing because it doesn't work for men - society sees nothing more pathetic than a male victim. "Man up" all the feminists would say. Male narcissists will go the other way and lie about how great they have it so they become enviable. What's scary about the culture now is most of these women aren't born with narcissistic personality disorders. It's not in their DNA, it's just encouraged. They're being trained to be narcissists.
The problem is she focused on the negative. Every interview she says how awful the old movie was, not considering people who likes the old movie. She should focus on the positive thing in the new movie without roasting old one. Plus in the Old movie the prince saving her is just a detail, she managed to escape the hunter killing her, she manager to survive on her own, she managed to live with the Seven dwarfs and make them admire her, she also helped them and worked in order to be accepted there. That sounds pretty badass and independent woman to me, while still being feminine.
Really she didn’t even escape the huntsman, the huntsman spared her because she was a kind soul. When she found the dwarves’ cottage she says to the animals that led her there she can offer to cook and clean for them in exchange for shelter and she made good on her offer. Out of all the dwarves Grumpy was the last one to warm up to her but he was the one leading the chase after the queen, even when they knew what the queen was capable of. They even tried to kick Snow out because they feared the queen’s wrath, but thanks to Snow’s caring and kind personality they overcame their fear. Finally one detail I find gets overlooked is that for most of her life Snow was treated as a housemaid, even her stepmother the queen. Yet she remained the cheerful, romantic girl she is throughout the movie.
Seriously, if you have seen the movie and have two brain cells you realize it isn't all about Prince Charming, he does the magic kiss thing at the end and happily ever after, but the interest of the movie lies in Snow White and the dwarves and the stepmother. That the story is framed by her love interest is important as a framework but it doesn't determine the characters and what's interesting and compelling about them. It's just story illiteracy to think that way.
As a mother who raised 2 kids all by herself since they were toddlers....I must say there is nothing wrong with a Prince Charming and I’m sick of being told how we are only strong women if we do things on our own. I’m glad we have more choices in life than previous years, but we don’t have to be alone karate chopping people to be someone.
Ewho said u have to raise them alone? Wherreh exactly u hear that ? But if ppl want to raise them alone, and think about it as strong, that is their choice
You mean what Disney does to everything it touches? Seriously though, this is the perfect way to describe it. They take something people already loved as is and tear it down out of spite, relying on nostalgia to draw people in, and shouting at anyone who complains.
Your assessment of Zegler is spot on! "Not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past." Brilliant! How could Disney be so eager to destroy it's beloved history? The problem with feeding a politically correct, 'Woke,' 'Monster,' is that eventually, the monster will eat you too!
Judge her all you want but when Snow White is running in the forest and all the scary faces appeared, that scared me as a kid, the whole scene where the Queen transforms herself is also scary. And the last scene when the dwarfs are chasing her and she falls to her death and the vultures look at each other and fly to eat her, my 5 year old self was shaking!
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude thanks for your permission, I shall continue to do so. Almost everything and anything unknown scares people when they're children, it is quite redundant in saying that as an adult. If that is still her takeaway from the movie NOW, then once again, it says so much about her. I was scared of the first ghost in chains scene in Mickey's Christmas Caroll as a kid, that certainly wouldn't be worth mentioning as an adult.
Hearing the actress openly state she refused to watch the original movie for years, demanding extra pay for dressing up, and calling the prince a stalker says everything we need to know about her and the movie she's in.
Most people would kill to get paid a few millions dollars to stand around in a dress. Yet she tries to paint it as some arduous ordeal she had to endure, so "deserves" even more money. Entitled, spoiled child.
You've so nailed it: these movies are more focused on pointing out the details of the original movies that according to the current trend can be seen as outdated than actually offering something better. In the end, all they offer is something that ends up being just self-righteous.
To me, Snow White has never been the "fairest of them all" purely based on how she looks -- her heart of gold, positivity and child-like naivete are the reasons why everyone (even animals) loves her. That's not something that the evil step mother can ever replicate, let alone overtake. Rachel Zegler does not possess any of the abovementioned qualities, and it shows -- even if she acts brilliantly. Heck, I would even say Gal Gadot feels more Snow White, and Rachel more evil step mother, age difference aside. I'm sad that another fond childhood memory is going to be butchered.
Perhaps if Ms. Zegler rewatched the original, she'd notice that Snow White manages to maintain her kind, trusting nature and dignity despite the abuse she suffers at the hand of her stepmother, overcome her immense fears about being abandoned in the middle of the woods and calm herself down when her (perfectly valid) emotions get the best of her, and then not only befriend a group of men who are very different from her, but establish herself as the respected and valued authority figure among them, encouraging them to be better versions of themselves and bringing genuine joy into their lives. She doesn't demean or belittle the people around her in order to make herself appear strong; she IS strong, in a quiet, gentle way, without the audience or other characters ever having to be directly told that she is.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
Snow White is a priceless piece of art that revolutionized the way animation was done. It's entirely hand drawn and colored, frame by frame. Shitting on it is like shitting on Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane. Any actor worth their salt would know better, but also if Disney is going in this direction, any actor worth their salt would know not take this trainwreck of a part. Disney has completely lost their roots, and I'm waiting for them to give this same treatment to Mickey Mouse himself at this point. Like turn Minney into some kind of boss babe. It's a shameless money grab that's unappealing, uncreative, and preachy to anyone outside of the Hollywood bubble. People watch entertainment to escape reality, not to have it shoved in their faces.
Remember the Mickey Mouse movie where he, Donald and Goofy were playing the Three Musketeers and Minnie and Daisy had the damsel in distress roles? With Minnie almost exacerbating the bubbly, lovey-dovey princess trope? Bet it wouldn't fly today.
Oh, they don't care. They've been trying for years now to bury Disney himself and all he's done because it's not good for "modern" Disney, just like Marvel is doing with Stan Lee. If they could snap their fingers and change the company name just like Twitter did, they absolutely would.
Walt Disney? Pah, what did *he* know. privileged white man that he was? Come to think of it, if Disney's so deeply and utterly ashamed of everything that came before the era of fem-extremism, why don't they stop making money off these horrible, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, ableist, anti-birthing-person flicks, take them off the shelves and stop having them available on their streaming platform?
The thing is, the old Snow White was a girl boss already. She basically took over a house of 7 men, flipped it, bossed them around a bit, made new rules (washing hands etc.) yet was still sweet and feminine.
So, a girl boss is somebody who does all your chores (and those of your six buddies) but gets you to wash your hands in a "sweetly and feminine" way. I think you might have a wonderful future in Florida politics right now.
@@Julia-lk8jn What?? Did she do ALL the chores and make all the things the dwarves made? I highly doubt that. But I also note that you have nothing to say about her making new rules and ordering the men around. So your comment is completely one sided. In fact I think you might have a future living in San Francisco in a tent with your other political leftist cronies right now.
@@Julia-lk8jndo you like the original Disney animated Snow White movie? I think it was the first oficial animated Disney movie that was not strictly a musical and it put Disney on map and its still great.
The male characters in the original Snow White portrayed the sort of traits that we would all want for men of today. The Huntsman, commanding by the Queen to kill Snow White, instead let her live. The dwarves took her in and kept her as safe as they could. The Prince revived her from certain death with a kiss of love. Disney today sucks.
The original Snow White was a Strong female character. She was kind, thoughtful, industrious, idealistic but practical. She was a character of a person you would want to meet in real life. She doesn't deserve mockery and neither does her prince who rescued her from a coma. The dwarfs were hard working, good hearted and open minded. They learned lessons and grew into better versions of themselves. The movie was celebrated because the characters were wonderful.
In the original, a woman is the heroine, a woman is also the villain. The two human male characters adore her, even the one who was supposed to kill her, and the dwarves exist to serve her, protect her, and tell her how awesome she is. You would think they would love that, and they still found something wrong with it. You go girls.
Indeed. The Evil Queen is already a leader totally in touch with her own power. Did anyone notice? I guess we needed an Snow White: Evil Queen in Training film.
Her face is just so condescending as he asks her the question. She's under the impression that bravado and arrogance are the same thing as strength of character and true conviction. She doesn't care about this character, or this film, only pushing an agenda she thinks makes her look like a #girlboss. In reality she comes across as an insecure child playing dress up and throwing a temper tantrum because people aren't wowed by her. She also seems the type of mean girl who would bully someone like Snow White for being "trad" all the while proclaiming that she's standing up and speaking for all women to live the life they choose.
Yep. And by 2037 all of her films will be forgotten and the 100 year old Snow White will still be a classic. The only Rachel people will remember is Rachel from Friends.
Instead of re-examining her attitude, Rachel is already preparing her media narrative as a survivor of cyber bullying and will go on talk shows that allow her to explore her victimhood.
Snow White’s strength comes through with her resiliency in the face of unimaginable hardship/abuse. If they wanted to create a modern version which focused on her as a strong character who resists the forces of evil they could have written a story about the Evil Queen spending her whole life trying get rid of Snow’s kindness. I feel like so many people would resonate with society/abusive households trying to change them. Seeing an inspiring character hold on could give many people in bad situations hope.
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run. I fix this for you: This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented left-green-woke suicidal run. They ALL do this. Annheuser-Busch(Budlight),Target, Disney,Ford, Blizzard etc. Its not just the movie-genre its ALL of them.
"It's dated when it comes to things like women in power"....while the original movie was about women in power...the evil queen and Snow later becoming queen. The prince wasn't even the focus of the original and he had very few scenes, was barely in the movie. What are they freaking talking about? 😂😂
@@LillyMichaelson637the fact the prince is supposed to arrive and save the girl is the "disgusting idea" leave aside the fact the dwarfs killed the evil Queen and they changed the really ending
I am 69 years old. I saw Snow White in 1962. I have just watched it for the second time, after all the intervening years. It is a wonderful movie. It is a historical treasure. What Disney is doing to it is a cultural war crime.
@@thomashancock7441 If they could get their way, they may well want to make it vanish and solely stream the new replacement media to their vapid masses. But they can't. It's still cultural vandalism even if it doesn't quite get to the 'cultural war crime' level.
I have stated what they're doing looks like watching Germans walking out of French museums stealing art, statues and other treasures. Just ransacked like common pillaging
Snow White in the 1937 movie IS a strong female character. She's a young girl who needs protection from an evil queen, but rather being all "woe is me, everyone save me!" And then lounging around being waited on hand and foot, she actually wants to earn her keep and help better the lives of the people who are saving her. She uses her knowledge and abilities to help those who do things for her that she can't do by herself. That's real strength, not just being able to effortlessly overcome all challenges with ease without any help. To be fair though, for a young kid, her running through the forest is a terrifying scene.
Amazing how her desire to EARN her keep is now seen as her being taken advantage of since the dwarves didn’t first try to help her process her trauma. Well, some people process by being empowered to do the things they’re good at instead of being told no no, don’t do anything meaningful to contribute and feel a sense of value when your value is entirely in you breathing.
Who cares if she said “woe is me everyone save me“ she’s 14 she can’t do everything and we all need help sometimes but she was able to support and be grateful for those seven dwarves that did save her life and did take her and that’s what makes her a great character she’s pure.
The transformation scene is also terrifying, and I also would fast-forward it on my vhs player. But that just makes it effective and the animators deserves all the respect for it, not disdain because you as a viewer are a p*ssy.
Exactly, that's it. People nowadays don't seem to know a lot of Grimm's fairy tales - Snow White is one of their spunkier heroines. In many tales, a girl will simply lie down to be killed, sacrificed or mutilated (fairy tales are not actually kiddie stories, did you know?), just because she's such a sweet and innocent girl. When Snow White realizes the huntsman is going to kill her, she fights tooth and nail for her life - first she softens him up by crying, then she runs off into the wilderness, then she seeks shelter and finds a safe place to stay where she can put her skills to use and recover from living in a hostile home. That's a pretty good array of skills for a teenager, whether in a fairy tale or in real life.
Well.. a) Because love means you need someone else, and that's a big no-no for modern feminists b) Because strong family ties is bad for authoritarian governements => Someone might not rebel to save himself, but he/she might do it to save their child or parent. In short, the more miserable and alone you are, the better docile consumer you become.
@@goofygrandlouis6296what’s also bad for authoritarian governments are people who defy tradition in general for both ideals of individualism and common wealth.
Girls aren’t allowed to fall in love anymore, become a mother, a wife, a homemaker, a creator of the next generation. They all have to grow up to become self absorbed childless girl boss spinsters. Well according to Disney that is.
This is a girl who grew up in an upper middle class family going to expensive private schools, and then immediately upon graduating high school started getting big roles in high budget movies. I have no idea how, her dad must have had connections or something. The point is this is a young person who’s never experienced the real world in any capacity after living an incredibly sheltered life and coming into a ton of wealth at an extremely young age. I think her perspective on life is pretty fucked as a result. I mean how could you expect someone in such a privileged situation to have any real wisdom at all.
I just watched your new video on this topic and came back to watch this one. God damn, you’re such a good writer! Some of the lines in this video are just so impeccably strong and on point. You’ve earned yourself a subscriber.
Disney is doing a damn good job of tanking ALL of their movies before their releases. Keep it up, Disney! The great Hollywood reset is inevitable at this point, right? Please?
This is the Great Reset. This is the Neo-Marxist takeover of this aspect of our culture. This is not going to stop. The trans-agenda trained people working there have been brainwashed into this for forty years and now they have power. This is just the beginning of the destruction. Think: it is everywhere - Target, Bud Lite, Nike, Victoria Secret, the M-She-U, in the schools, in our institutions. The Alphabet People Flag Parades are VICTORY Parades. Settle in for much, much more of this cultural devastation. Cheers!
Zegler thinks that the movie having men helping a young lady threatened by her stepmother that tries to kill her is a problem. Like, literally all the men in the movie are on Snow White's side. The hunter even sacrificed his life and dignity in order to save Snow White, because the queen stated that if he failed there would be punishment. And the dwarfs literally tried to fight the evil queen, risking their lives to avenge Snow White's "death". This proofs how perverted is the mind of a feminist.
Fr Hollywood seems so anti-men now that it makes even a tomboy like me disappointed. I was laughed at for saying that there are still good men because my dad did his best to save me from my abusive mom. My bf of 5 years now was also the first to make me feel unconditional love, allowing me to do whatever I wanted without judgement. I could be all hormonal during my period and say I want to "kill" him to his face (ofc I don't mean it), and he wouldn't budge.
Imagine being a 90 pound woman and thinking you are strong and independent. It took a bunch of 170-230lb men to build your house, you aren't even strong enough to pick up a 2x4x8.
The fact Zegler keeps referring to the original as a "cartoon" shows she is dripping with disdain for it. Walt took a huge leap of faith and the movie was truly groundbreaking for its time. She is trying to put Snow White on the level of a Popeye or Bugs Bunny short and that is just wrong. She's earned a permanent spot on the D-list.
lets be honest does anyone even know who she is and what films she's been in. she's already a D-list actor and gal gadot is a B tier actor at best. neither can act to save their lives
Just like a shallow minded woke simpleton. . . she thinks that just because cartoons are done in animation, then all animations must therefore be cartoons.
My thoughts exactly. It really irks me how she’s attempting to degrade what is considered a timeless animated movie by slapping a “cartoon” tag on it. In general, I don’t trust or socialize with people that don’t have the brain cells to appreciate and differentiate one format from the other.
The original film was made in 1937 but the story takes place in the 1500s. Why does Disney not see how out of place it is to put a story of women's empowerment into a film that took place in the 1500's? Maybe we can do a story on Abraham Lincoln as well and have Boot assassinated him with a high powered rifle instead.Why does all of Disney's films seem to not understand context?
You make some good points, and the upcoming "strong female character" Snow White does sound completely awful. But even OG Snow White isn't timeless. It's just excellent and for that reason, much more enduring than other works. But let's not forget the 1937 film was itself a "modernized" reworking of much older source material, changed in ways that the producers thought 1937 audiences would approve of (e.g. the Queen was SW's biological mother; she's downgraded to step-mother, which is more palette-able; Grimm's Queen was cannibalistic; "wake her with a kiss" never happened in the Grimm OG, it was invented entirely.) So bits of 1937 SW do feel a bit dated, and that's OK, it's still a masterpiece we can enjoy.
German girl here! In preschool in Halloween (named different here) I always went as Snow White, with the yellow-blue dress my mum made herself. It is a beautiful, mid-European Fairytale and she's insulting our culture. So sad man, so sad ... everyone wants a better world and keeping on fighting fire with fire...
Ah yes, the extremely popular and realistic feminine hero character that has absolutely no flaws, overcomes absolutely no challenges and the only thing she ever had to do was believe in herself.
I can’t believe that a Disney film would tank its film by pushing THE MESSAGE and alienating any fan base that it could’ve built to pander to people who won’t watch it
“it's no longer 1937 [...], she's not gonna be dreaming about true love” Welp. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Never thought I'd hear anyone _openly_ say that love is an outdated concept that has no place in modern world, but here we have it.
Well, if you think about it, the idea of true love suddenly appearing the save you is silly and naive. Most people have to work at it to make it work. But no harm in wishing for love.
@bui3415 it's naive? Why don't people realize these are fantasy stories? True and perfect love at first sight is a fantasy that makes a nice story. That's why fairy tales go back thousands of years. I really want to understand when and why people decided they were supposed to be some kind of instruction manual for living life and therefore decided that they must be harmful. Stories are meant to be enjoyed. And the way they remove love interests from the majority of modern princess stories is not very enjoyable nor does it seem especially wise. Like remember girls, career aspirations are more important than loving relationships. That sounds healthy
My generation (30+ millennials) are already regretting the push of career over family. So many people I know worked instead of settling down to have kids, and are now discovering it is hard building relationships and having children at this stage.
You said it my friend. I ended up having to stop talking to a girl once due to her saying "there's no such thing as love, you have to look at a relationship like a business partnership, how much will you bring to the house, what jobs have you worked," I was shook not even gonna lie, luckily for me I grew up with a sensible sister and I myself found my wife and yes Love is an actual thing
Short, simple, strongly-worded, and completely accurate. Great work as always, Mr. Drinker. I thank you in advance for if you decide to suffer through this movie so we can get a fun review video for it. :)
snow white wasn't written in 1930 for a timeless audience it was written down by Wilhelm and Jacob Grimm in 1812 it went through multiple revisions in tone, like the evil stepmother was the biological mother in the first version but in 200 years nobody thought about making this clusterfuck in change of the story
"It's not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past" is such an inspired quote I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a legit literary quote in future.
Also just noticing the profile pic, if youre a performing artist like me, keep fighting the good fight and bringin the real stuff directly to the people. I wont let culture die im going to keep growing it ✊
A message to all those “strong female characters”. In movies. And real life. If you need to tell someone you’re a “strong female character”? You’re not one.
So true a REAL WOMAN doesn't need to prove anything to appease this modern way of thinking, it must be so confusing for them to be part of the new world order that they don't need a man etc there's nothing wrong with dreaming a prince will ride up on his noble steed and sweep you off your feet especially for young girls , just seems the agenda these days is not allow children to be children
She herself says it's "87 years old." Ok, 87 yrs old and still remembered. Good enough to be remade 87 yrs later into another version of it that will be forgotten the same year it comes out. Guess I'm not seeing the logic other then they still get their inflated paychecks.
In the original, Snow WAS a very strong character. She persevered despite horrific loss, found help, inspired others, and even TURNED a man who was sent to kill her. The evil queen was a perfect example of the dangers of narcissism and the corruption of power. The love story was simple but very effective, the characters (all of them) had some form of arc, even if some were a bit more shallow than others. And all of it accomplished with cel animation and in 83 minutes. There is a reason that it is credited as the foundation of Disney. Like almost all remakes, this one will fall far short and, hopefully, will be quickly consigned to the dustbin of history.
AND, that cell animation has more individual layers than anyone has done, including Disney, before OR since. It's a masterwork of Animation. It deserves respect for that ALONE. It took THOUSANDS of original, hand-drawn cells, from individual artists, to make Snow White... what a way to treat your Magnum Opus, Disney...
There are plenty of "girl boss" characters that audiences love, but the ones we hate act as if shitting on the men around them is what gives them strength. Imagine a movie trying to get you to like a male character who thinks dumping on all the women around him is what makes him cool...
I gotta say, the original Snow White looks stunning even now, almost 90 years later. Beautiful colors, beautiful backgrounds, just beautiful all the way around. There’s a feeling of heft and weight to the animation which I believe contributes to its timelessness.
it is truly sad that this level of hand drawn animation will never come back (there's several reasons for that but the most important one is that it's not a craft being taught anymore).
you gotta watch those disney docs form that era! so incredible what they did for the time and budget in like 1939. Its insane how impressive a huma feat it is and was. People have no idea what a risk that was, it nearly doomed Disney. They went out on a limb. It was very very very expensive, many worked without pay for overtime obviously thats animation. when people saw it theaters it was like seeing aliens. Imagine showing taht level of colour in cartoon to people who'd only seen steamboat willie if tehy were lucky. then they see all that. Its a marvelous pice of human achievement and it says a lot about us as humans imo. it was like animation's moon landing. before we did they said it was undoable.
@@carljohan9265Im really glad that unique animation is starting to come back recent years, whether it be new tmnt, spider verse franchise, the bad guys, mitchells vs machines, the last wish puss in boots over these same looking disney cgi barf fests
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
100 years from now, the original Snow White movie will still be viewed as one of the greatest pieces of animation ever made. The live action movie will be lucky to be a footnote.
WTF is wrong with her dreaming about love?! I'm a woman, btw. I'm so tired of the narrative that women have to be "strong and independent" and can't fall in love. Women can be strong and still fall in love. They can still be strong and yet rely on a man sometimes. I hate this new narrative being pushed.
Yes, we'll said. I've often thought how pandering it is to tell women they are wrong to want to indulge in old fashioned romance tropes. It's funny too that nobody sees that the rescue fantasy goes both ways typically. Usually the male character is struggling to find a truly good women. They are men of high social standing who are fed up with the inauthenticity of their surroundings and a lack of purpose. Typically it's about finding someone who will help them to be fair and just and keep them grounded. The idea being, without purpose and guidance, they know they would become cruel and resentful. It's really a two way hero fantasy. Both are "damsels in distress" until they rescue each other. Cheesy, but timeless...
The women screaming about how love is weakness and how all women have to be strong and independent...are the ones that will be found half-eaten by their 42 cats.
It encourages harmful ideas like heteronormativity and raising a family - or god forbid - motherhood. We dont want little girls getting crazy ideas like that.
"...It's an 85-year old movie..." Yes dear it is. It's an 85-year old movie that literally changed the face of modern film and shook up the studio system forever.
I can't believe this stupid brat was allowed to be in a movie. Without Snow White, regardless what you think of it, NOTHING would have come afterwards. It's THE movie which changed the industry.
I’m fairly certain it was a desperate move as well from the, at the time, “toddler” studio since they were having money issues or something like that at the moment. The beautiful and horrifying thing about desperation is that sometimes the most wonderful things happen when you’re left with no choice but to either rage against the dying light or go softly into that silent night.
The original film is an artistic masterpiece. You could watch the entire movie on mute and still be completely absorbed by the breathtaking animation. And likewise you could listen to it with your eyes closed and have your soul touched by the music. What a legacy.
At what point is this Ship of Theseus no longer Snow White? She doesn't need a prince so "Someday My Prince Will Come" and climax of true love's kiss is out. Snow White doesn't have skin white as Snow. There are seven random individuals, not 7 dwarves. She's a boss girl, not a nurturing mother role. What's left?
Like one wise RU-vidr said: "you are not stupid because you are a woman. You are stupid because you are stupid". Those words are easily applicable to Rachel Zegler.
Don't you miss the days when a cool, liberated frontwoman could sing a song titled 'stupid girl' and trust the audience and media to be sufficiently mature and discriminating to know how it was meant, and would never dream of having to even 'clarify', let alone hand-wring or apologize?
The irony is that Disney’s new age heroines are beginning to act and sound like the villains of the story itself. And they seriously expect us to believe Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks?
Lol, but I have to say Lily Collins is a class act by all appearances and seems to be worthy of representing a Disney Princess. Emma Watson “Hermione” gave some misguided feminist soapbox speeches, but still seems grounded and likable. Rachel, on the other hand? Wowww, holy sh*t. Dumping on the original movie like it’s r@cist or something?? What a spoiled generation!
Many women today have become brainwashed into believing that the true definition of “feminism” and advocating for women’s rights is degrading and hating on men. And this chick is only further pushing that narrative.
Well, the Barbie film actually turned out pretty good (and not so man hating, after all, considering subtleties of script, allegory, etc) But I don't think, anything, can save this film...
There’s something especially appalling about someone wanting to invalidate previous generation’s accomplishments, while at the same time, use those accomplishments for their own benefit. A real shameless lack of honor.
Well, it's actually a great analogy for modern-day feminism ! They want the perks of "male leadership"... But without the hard-work and duties that go with it. Notice that female writers often times write "Mary-Sue's", who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Quite telling !
Great breakdown, i like how you summarize it at the end, and you are exactly right. They have nothing of their own to offer, so they'll try to drag down a successful franchise to satisfy an audience with the attention span of a shoet commercial. The worst part is they wouldn't enjoy it no matter how it was remade all they care about is making sure you dont enjoy it
Of course she calls it stalking because she thinks social media/phones/tinder has existed since the dawn of time. They had no other way of staying in touch. I doubt she even knows how to send a letter.
Last year, I literally had to teach a summer intern how to send a letter. She was fresh out of high school and had never in her life sent anything through the mail. She couldn't even figure out how to fold the paper to fit in the envelope without being shown how. That's a failure to learn geometry to any useful degree, not merely being unfamiliar with "analog" technology. I've never been so saddened by the experiential gap between my generation an the ones coming up behind me - before or since.
The narcissism and hubris of youth is shining through her words. Too young to understand how wrong she is, but also old enough to have learned all the things the world wanted her to learn up until now. She has yet to challenge any of her preconceived notions and her cocktail of ignorance is strong and will last for many years. Once it wears off, she will look back on these days in horror.
There already is a strong female character in the original story... The evil Queen! She doesn't want love, she just wants to be the leader she knows she can be. And she certainly isn't rescued by a prince. She is just trying to get rid of the little upstart. 😂
Can't believe this isn't a bigger talking point, it literally directly counters Rachel's notions that the film's "dated" for lacking strong female characters! The fact that it took a literal intervention from the sky to stop her speaks to her power in and of itself. It's a far more effective testament of power than whatever 'modern' ideas of boring infallibility and unlikeable characterisations most modern Hollywood writers seem to be cultishly churning out these days.
Yes. The most chilling part of the film is where she kicks the bucket at a skeleton that one can only presume belonged to the previous king, going, "Thirsty?".
“It’s not a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past” was so immaculately said. It had chiasmus, vivid imagery, and a sharp message packed into just one sentence.
Revolution is only possible when you've convinced enough people that the old ways that got them where they are, are actually the problem. The communists in Vietnam and China expressly destroyed and rewrote their own history, otherwise they would never have succeeded. Thankfully enough survived where it wasn't all lost, but much of it was.
When Oscar Wilde had said that the one thing worse than being talked about was not being talked about, he could have been anticipating the demise of culture. Because all this talk and no good art is the story of our digital times. It’s proving more exhausting than the mighty hand-drawn effort in the making of the original Snow White. Never than today has entertaining and being entertained proved so exhausting. And the art suffers. The culture executives seem to be up to high dough in coming across as morally perfect and perfectly progressive all at once. Art suffers like this.
1:40 - And the story itself is hundreds of years old and it didn't fall into obscurity for a reason. Because it is timeless unlike this modern retelling which will be quickly forgotten. If the writers have a problem with the original story, why not to make their own original story? I know why. It is way easier to pitch a movie to studios if it's based on something popular.
She'll accuse him of assault for waking her up from her coma, claiming she didn't consent to being alive. And it will ruin his life, he'll move into a one bedroom efficiency with his dog, eventually self delete, and she'll be a boss queen.
"This isn't a passing of the torch; it's a torching of the past" is one of MauLer's best quotes ever. It's not a funny quote, but it just so accurately sums up the state of modern entertainment that it belongs in the history books that will written about this era of storytelling.
It's a Marxist/Maoist concept, and it's happening not just in entertainment. It is more widespread as you see AB InBev (Bud Lite) and other corporations stepping in it as they purposely tear down their past to make way for their "brave new world".
Disney literally said it plans on not making any new physical releases and controls the main source where you can watch the movie without a physical copy. If they wanted, they could make it disappear as easily as they did with Song of the South.
Says the original snow white is extremely dated when it comes to women in power yet the villain is an all powerful queen who does magic. Didn't realize the queen was actually a man
Snow White's strength came from losing her father and being forced to be in an abusive situation and still have the emotional strength to be kind and dream of a better life, and in the Seven Dwarves she finds a found family instead of the family she was born with, and that is a timeless message. The message of Snow White was *never* 'I need a man to save me". in fact, Prince Charming is barely even in the movie at all! So for Rachel to have that takeaway completely misses the mark about what the original movie was actually about. This Snow White remake is giving me the exact same vibes as that terrible Camilo Cabello Cinderella movie where the "I don't need anyone I'm perfecf" attitude of the main lead just makes for an unempathetic narcissistic asshole instead of a character who is actually emotionally strong.
