Snowrunner How good are Mack & Kenworth Phase 10 truck review 

Even the azov 73210 fits the long bed crane.

@@reddevil1540 Azov 73210 can only have the long bed though, it can't have the crane or a trailer with it.

pinned it for others to know...I do forgot about those combos...it's insane how many combos this truck can have but I don't know how good it would be hauling heavy high sadle trailer with fuel tank on frame.

​@@SD1ONEHey SD, I've already tested that out with the large military high saddle with just the stock Mack packed and it didn't fair well. Even low had wheel freeze ups. Honestly, I think it needs about 15-20k more torque for it to be a contender and not just another P12 that'll be forgotten ina couple weeks.

@@GrySgtBubba yeah...wish they went with less addons and more power because as of now it cant utilise all those addons properly anyway

I just unlocked it today it’s my go to truck now

Bro we know, you must of not of read SD1ONE's comment

@@caseyboyer7395 my guy thinks that i scroll through the entire comment section before saying something

@@Angelthewolf the comment Is pinned

@@caseyboyer7395 it wasn‘t at the time i wrote mine

Thanks brother, Eagerly waiting for your reviews on them too

Nathan and SD1ONE- 2 Snowrunner ultimate legends. YOu must do some colaboration in the future ! :D :3

@@kexcz8276 Already did a collab in History of Snowrunner video.

@@SD1ONE it was done with Nathan? 🤔 Then I either didnt recognize him, or I forgot 😅😆

Although I writen his name as host at start and end credits but most people don't pay attention to that text unless it's in the face which I don't wanted....I also suggested Nathan to introduce himself at start of video but he said it would be weird to introduce him which is kinda understandable but at same time I think it kind of suppressed the recognition he would get as host.

same to you bro.

@@SD1ONE thanks!

No more problems than other vehicles in heavy terrain when pulling large rig trailers. Throw it in Low+, make sure AWD is on. That said, it’s top speed in 5th gear seems governed to say the least…

@@MusicForTheBroken I did exactly the same, it helps a little but still doesn't solve the problem. My stupidity, however, is that I used the Real Life Mod, which strongly changes the physics to a more difficult one, the weight of loads to a greater one, but also changes the performance of truck engines and gearbox ratios. And unfortunately, it has not yet been updated to the latest vehicles in the game to be able to handle heavier loads.

One pattern I noticed is that trucks which dont originally has AWD has their front axles higher originally so those upgeaded AWD axles retains old collision model...but thats just my theory and it doesnt apply to every truck...for ex: some trucks like paystar 5070 which comes default with AWD also has higher collision model than actual axles

That is where you are wrong. The Kenworth has its issues but it is still one of the best trucks whereas the P12 (and the other Pacific trucks for that matter) are all garbage. The Azov 5 is also not very good due to its fuel problems.

My only issue with the Kenworth is it seems to lack torque even with a 15L I still use it though.

They can add that but game has no cargo that's suitable for dumb bed...still I don't know maybe they introduce something.

@@SD1ONE Phase 2 Yukon, the special Cat trailer that hauls boulders, you could haul gravel with the dump body, as matter of fact, the 770G has not used since Phase 2.

@@DrRacer78 yeah, They didn't even repeat that trailer after that in any other mission also the trailer was pre-loaded so It can't be considered a cargo...addon works differently than trailers still lets see what they do.

mentioned in pinned comment

yes...I pinned a comment mentioning that and other things

I mean they do spoiled us to go over rocks and stuff without issue and now we can't go back to realistic axles.

@@SD1ONE I would agree with you except for one problem. We can't clear the rocks out of the road. If we could actually clear the rocks from the road, and have them stay cleared permanently, I would be more than happy to have realistic axle collisions. But having realistic axle collisions with the sheer amount of rocks and logs they put on the roads (combined with the EXTREMELY sensitive suspension damage mechanic) would just make the game frustrating rather than challenging. It would also be a good opportunity to introduce new addons and vehicle types to the game. Bull dozers, plows, etc, that can be used to clear road debris or push deep snow off the road. If you want to do realism in one area, you have to do it in all areas. You can't have realism on one aspect and not in another.

haven't tried new crane yet...I'll mention it later in phase 10 review when I complete it.

@@SD1ONE load yourself With patience, you gonna need It if you use the kenworth With something.... I just want to turn Up a rolled zikz, and It cannot even move the zikz from where It was, pulling With the Kenny With a crane, it's ridiculous it's like trying to move a KOLOB With a DON71, It really dissapointed me

Ahem ahem... it actually has MORE power than Kolobs.

@@vladvulcan not in practice's. the truck is struggling.

@@frosty848 the numbers, man, the numbers. Also the number of wheels. Sure, an axle gets more power, when the torque is distributed to each one, but having more axles helps with weight spreading. That's why Azov 7 is better than Kenworth with that crane, despite having slightly less torque and far smaller wheels. Plus, Azov sports heavy 200 kg wheels (10*200 = 2000 kg of unsprung weight) against superheavy Kenworth wheels =6*600 kg = 3600 kg of unsprung weight. That also counts, the engine is struggling to move such huge wheels. Which doesn't explain how the Kolobs don't struggle with having exactly same wheels, but 8 of them.

derry in PTS had realistic collision model but it was crating a lot of issues so they changed it later....I think they'll do that with mack too if enough people complain although its not as bad as it was in derry originally

Been used in AB, BC , NWT and Artic.. 953/963 were designed for N Africa and ME, but, couldn't be sold into China or Russia.

You have strange tastes and preferences, are you a masochist? There is no more ridiculous and useless car in this game. High fuel consumption, small wheels and poor maneuverability. In the game, the roles of heavy vehicles are not spelled out at all, there is no balance, in fact, these heavyweights are not needed. One all-terrain vehicle is enough and the whole game can be completed.

I think if they improve its hitbox then It'll stuck less and save fuel...so win win.

Yeah, So far I also haven't find Long logs in this season....I find most of the tasks and stuff but not a single long logs mission is found yet.

Season 10 doesn't have any long log anything. Which, honestly is quite surprising as B.C. has alot of logging irl.

​@@SD1ONEBecause there is none at all sadly.

@@GrySgtBubba Yep that's odd.

So they gave us two trucks that can do long logs +crane, but not a single long log mission? that sucks

Exactly

Hi SD1ONE

only thing I want is custom oilfield bed that it has in real life..

@@SD1ONE It's cool that studio officials are confirming that custom addons will be coming eventually, but I want them to add more in general. It's a bit of a bitter pill anymore when they release a new DLC truck (paid or not) that looks amazing and is great to use, and then it has all the same generic addons as everything else. I'm not asking them to give every single truck their own, unique addons, but at least do the Mudrunner thing where Russian and American ones look different. It gets boring seeing the same truck bodies on EVERYTHING.

The sad part is that most people don't mind generic addons and that's why devs avoid them mostly.

I made a bit of a screwup, Mack cannot get MHS II, its best is MHS I which is 2 on both dirt and mud. Considering this, the base tires might be better although that is debatable

Correction: Mack tires have 2.8 dirt rating. MC-V8 13.0L has 232k torque.

​@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyerI prefer OHS II.

@@vladvulcan I have never considered using an OHS tire but looking at the stats, they might very well be worth it.

@@vladvulcan Damn, you are right, I somehow missed those. Too many numbers I guess lmao Doesnt matter a whole lot, but I wanted and failed to be accurate :(

That depends on how you see truck weights...I consider wheel weight too because you can't detach the wheels from the truck and with wheels kolob 747 is still slightly heavier....I avoided mentioning weight because it would only angry the people in comment section who measure weight without wheels... In the end it depends on person to person.

@@SD1ONE Oh, of course, I forgot about wheel weight! Yes, in that case, Kolob is slightly heavier due to having 8 wheels instead of 6. Also, when I tried Kenworth in Season 10 and when I saw it's offroad and pull capabilities, do you consider comparing this monster with Twinsteer or Mastodon?

That dead axle is a hard pass for me. It just gets caught up far too much.

@@KurNorock You just have to pay attention where you're going. That combined with its absurd power to weight ratio with the top engine just makes it wonderful to use.

I really like it, the 1430 seems better in mud with the ohd tires compared to the 49x with the uod tires even tho the 1430 lacks diff lock, but the 49x looks better to me and and is good to be a little more of a challenge

tow platform uses the normal winch

not at time of publishing this video....also promised unique addon for mack is still missing

Because it struggles most of time and also new region is hilly area...so it consumes a lot of fuel but thankfully fuel tank is like 500L+ and also has additional fuel in roof rack...so it's not an issue

So the truck is average+ tier. Nothing too crazy but addons keep it in the race

This is why I HATE the very concept of "balance" in a game. It ruins everything. I don't want balance. I want the tricks to perform as they do in real life. Period.

Which video you're talking about part one or part 2...part 2 is 2022 one.

@@SD1ONE the top 10 best scout mods i think

I installed no such mods... settings are at high not even ultra...But In some Consoles games There're 2 presets...one is high graphics but low resolution like 1080p other is high resolution but low settings like at 4k

Antarctic is heavy vehicle just like Kenworth and 49X axle design is similar to Mack although it has dead axle

@@SD1ONE The thing is, I exclusively play co-op and literally nobody uses either of those vehicles. Why would you if you have other options? The Antarctic is unstable, unpleasant to drive (being articulated,) and doesn't have many addons, and you could use something like the 605 if you want a similar level of extreme-terrain mobility but with better functionality. The 49X is a mediocre semi-tractor; there are plenty of other vehicles that can fit a saddle and don't have a dead axle. Also, the vehicle class literally doesn't matter; you never have to use a specific class of vehicle for any task. Additionally, there are quite a few vehicles that are arguably mis-classified: for example, the Step 310, Freightliner 114, and Paystar 5070 are all statistically comparable to the vehicles in the HD class, as is the MH9500 when fully upgraded. Seriously, look up the truck selection spreadsheet from the subreddit and you can see that all of those trucks are very similar in size, weight, power, and capabilities. This is a bit of a tangent, but this topic might be something you'd be interested in doing a video on. Anyways, with all that in mind, my thoughts would be to compare the Kenworth (even though it's only 3-axle) to the other large, but capable trucks: the Derry Special, either/both Zikz 6s, the Azov 6/7 maybe, but *not*, say, the Kolobs or Twinsteer, due to being much more limited in terms of addons. The Mack I think is more comparable to, say, the Azov 5 and Paystar 5600. The idea is to compare a vehicle to others that you'd pick as alternatives for the same task.

@@AtomizerX Whether someone use them or not is not the point...The reason people don't use them is either because of lack of addons and better tires but new vehicles have better tires and better addons. For example: Kenworth is like Antarctic or CAT 745C mixed with P12 but with more addons...so comparision is to give people idea that they would be like driving say Antarctic but with more addons...On other hand Paystar 5600, etc are different trucks than kenworth...they're not as bulky, not has as big tires but they do have power...It just won't make sense to compare them...Also I have to think about video lenght too...I can't compare them with all available vehicles as that would make video too long....the objective is to give people idea like how these trucks would feel to drive.

I do

​​@@AtomizerXeah, the truck selection spreadsheet is so cool

In whole narrow singles tires category, OHS II are best...I would recommend you to watch Nathan Province mud running tips video where he showed all tire types and also mentioned which one are best for what.

@@SD1ONE Cool, so I've been using the wrong tires for 3 years now) Thank you very much, I'll take a look at the video!

Yes, this is how this works. Search "tire behavior in mud" on Snowrunner subreddit.

It looks like P12 to me...the 6x6 axle structure and frame length kind of matches...Paystar is 10x10 though.

Yes, he pinned a comment stating that you simp

mack willl struggle in rocks and stuff

@@SD1ONE yes, way too much. I tried with the offroad gearbox, but it's even worse...

​@@Don_Maguse highrange then

@@vladvulcan I checked, it doesn't help. Even the White Western Star 4964 does a better time and burns 20 liters less fuel (I play in hard mode)... I'm disappointed, maybe it can manage without a load, but this game is about carrying loads and this truck has huge problems with it especially uphill, but light mud is also a problem.

@@Don_Mag well, duh, how can you even compare? WWS is much less powerful. You need to compare Mack to the ANK, it has a similar consumption and even more power. WWS: 155k torque at the cost of 6.5 consumption; Defense M917: 232k torque for 10.0 consumption. ANK: 210k torque for 10.0 consumption.

Yes but It doesn't help when other trucks with inferior tires can easily go over the obstacles which Mack struggles on.

@@SD1ONE thats wen you move in consequence

I don't know if concept of rpm even exist in game....it looks like tricks with engine sound

nah paystar ts is still better fuel tanker...Its fast and super powerful, has its own role

@@SD1ONE You should make a comparison video

Now you can imagine how underpowered Kenworth would be...still 69" MHS II mud tires are no joke and can get it moving through muddy areas as long as it's not a steep climb.

And deliberately underpowered, this Canadian truck has more speed and torque in real life. I love using the P12 but I really wish the devs would give it the engine it deserves.

kenny sounds even better imo

I can contact them through email like any other person but it's upto them to respond or not but I think they'll solve that issue if more people noticed it.

OHS II can match or even best some mudtires..

MHS I and all DMHS suck.

Dont know...I havent had this issue in this phase...i do have issues in some section of maine region I think but that's it.

Engine is good but the collision model can make it struggle because it can get stuck on even medium size rocks even in plain non-hilly area.

@@SD1ONE I just hope they fix it on a patch or something

232k top

I guess I tried going uphill empty doing a bridge repair

yeah, Its more of a plain area truck...Phase 10 is not suitable map to release this truck.

I expected at least wheelspin, but it behaves as if handbrake is on. Useless. Like the sound though.

@@johnbrianneary8844 They'll fix it I think, Usually the first release of almost every season has bugs and stuff that get fixed later by update...last season was like that too.

​@@SD1ONEit's okay for the region

OHS II are like one of best singles tires period...They can beat most mudtires except wide singles...

because MHS I and DMHS suck

It was paved road...In offroad hill...It'll struggle.

@SD1ONE such a waste of a good looking truck

I can get my P12 moving uphill but some hills need a winch, but this is in Michigan and there are a lot of other maps. I experimented with tyres in Michigan.

@metalheartmugglebody.8328 try other map lol , michigan is like tutorial , nothing get stuck there , but the point is when you look at p12 , have good tires and one of the very powerful engine in game and it barely move itself 🫣

I’m looking forward to other maps but at the moment I’m still in Michigan and have been backwards and forwards to Alaska. The P12 does okay so far in Alaska, it’s not quick but it has served me well so far.

yeah, OHS II honestly are very good and mack tires does have same mud rating as those if I remember correctly.

I don't get it ... on paper MHS I are almost the same as OHS II with slightly better mud rating. Same weight and width ... MHS I should be better in mud.

@@grefin79 I tried them twice and same results, I guess theres something more to tires than those values...could be wrong...I dont know coding stuff

​@@grefin79way worse dirt rating tho. And there's dirt underneath the mud.

@@vladvulcan That's right, they have a much better dirt rating. But if the first two tires in the test was completely stuck in the mud. I guess that means the tires didn't touch the bottom. If they were in contact with solid ground, they would not get stuck. Unless the OHS II sink in the mud a bit more, but as I wrote, the same width and weight ... too complicated or just random behavior? :)

TNT vibe

Man..You're right...I get confused because I remember at release 5600TS wasn't allowed to have trailer with 3 slot bed but later they added it..

Yeah...I think they'll fix them as unique addons are also missing