Snowrunner Zikz 612H is back for Rematch after improvements 

As of Now these changes are added in PTS but since It's the final PTS, so the chances of any major changes are slim, Still If there're any major changes at final release, I'll mention them in this pinned comment. - All improvements from Zikz 612H Mastodon from PTS are carried over to final Phase 10 release.

My biggest problem with the 612H is, that I often got extreme suspension damage even from small rocks.

I feel that the Snowrunner only fails in the little details, like the addons, which in the Snowrunner are universal regardless of the origin of the vehicle. Mudrunner seems to have received more affection in this regard. The good thing is that this is a very simple thing to solve for the devs and I hope from the bottom of my heart that they can create unique addons for the vehicle's nationality (Russian vehicles have Russian addons, Americans have Americans, etc).

They also added the "Ramped Towing Platform" for the 612H

Thank you for this review on the Mastodon with improvements it's still currently my favorite vehicle and makes me feel so much better about it seeing they did improve it.

Let's not forget the absolute NIGHTMARE we all went through just getting the 605r 😂 I finally got it yesterday after years of giving up

Despite I do not like 612 as much as 605 (its overhang, sound, ...), I must agree that the number of addons, and now also the possibility of LOGS, makes it really good choice. I would although welcome one new meta update, and that would be 605 getting at least also the long logs, because I feel like it would suit it really, really well

I was wondering when you would do the update comparison!! Niiiiiiiiiiiiice 😮😮😮

Yep. Spintires/Mudrrunner have a special place in our hearts. That game was developed with a special touch on reality, I stoped snowrunner to go back to play mud runner despite it's lack of gameplay, the real feel of the game is magical

I played MR when it came, and I loved it. Got SR when it came and I wanted these nostalgia trucks, and now that they are here. Im happy, almost bought the 612 as I saw it, but it doesnt have its fuel tank. I want the MR fuel tank on it...

I like how the person said “that’s why it’s the goat the goat!”😂 10:40

I've really been enjoying my time with it, I'm actually daisy chaining my 612 and 605 together on some expeditions

Finally, more logging options. Very good, I felt like it was decent before but now its an excellent truck. Also, whats the map you use for testing? It looks very good and cool I wanna try it.

Great video. Wow. And new..!!

I think it would be cool if we could see the most popular semi truck mods available for all platforms

little details are important, i hope devs be more attentive

Is still play Mudrunner especially for trucks like E-7310 and E-7429 wich sadly hasn't found it's way into Snowrunner yet. But thanks for the comparision of new 612H, will maybe help me a lot in Sr with choosing what truck to take

I was on a logging crew am we used end dump trucks an i had the same cat truck that thin is so under power an the way it handles. Plus you can switch from 2 4 or open six wheel drive. Was still good in the deep mud during the rain but limited

great job👍👍

These two are like Tayga 6436 and 6455B now. I will always choose 605R if crane or chained tires aren't needed at the moment. Also 605R has less annoying engine sound, has more durable tires, more stable and doesn't have front overhang. It's just overall more comfortable vehicle to drive.

These videos and their editing only keep getting better

Zikz not king you are the true king of snowrunner

I just added medium log trailer and trailer support for Zik masta. little tweaks I know from modding. Same for Darry Special.

Once again, a great video mate, but I dont think it takes the King title cause of the adons. In fact I preffered the Mudrunner version, as its primary use was a heavy extranction vehicle, This truck was made to be OP and it should be, God i remember in MR he pulled me out of the shit that no other truck could.

About addons for mAz 612H - I've been digging the files out a bit and actually they had done a very sloppy job. I don't know if it is fixed in PTS, but if you check closely all the addons, their width is reused from 605. The frame of 612H is wider, but textures of, for example, short log frame or repair cabin bases (or even saddle) is narrower... It's a shame that they do not retain uniqueness of original trucks' addons.

Awesome also quick question what music did you use in the phase 7 video the last part

E-7310:THE KING RETURN,BRO D-537:why Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy Another truck:oh noes(no)why

The tires are also heavier now on the 612H which seems to make a huge difference in grip.

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couldn't agree more.

I'm happy for the slight improvements of the 612H for sure, but I'll still stick to mods though. IF they brought MR style unique addons...then I'd actually use the vanilla. But the generic addons prevent me from taking several of the Russian trucks seriously. So i use modded trucks to at least beef up their capabilities, maybe add a few more addons like a 3-slot bed+crane as several definitely have the room for, or some custom addons that actually provide uniqueness to the truck. Ina way, i like that majority of the trucks share addons, that way I easily try out trucks extensively, but to that, it also hurts the realism of trucks being designed for specific tasks or general purposes...

Great stuff, 4 me is The Best comparasion 🎉😊 Since is a pay dlc ( zikz 605r is too a pay dlc but in a form of map /season) they should add more atention, more quality, and not better or The Best truck, but more more balanced truck, i don't want a go for all truck, IT would become boring at The end, but a very powerfull truck suited for 2 or 3 Jobs... Like in real life... 🎉 Devs should bring that foldable long logs adon from mudruner or spintires... This truck have plenty Room for some special, big adon.. Something uniq adon... Or add a powerfull rescue crane 🎉 But even an update is still good 😅😊

I use the 612H, Azov, Pacific P16, Reznati, and sometimes the Yar or Khan Marshall

New season came I didnt see the changes of tyres in patchnotes. Is it canceled?

Did you know? Rng3r worked on the modeling part of Mastodon truck and for the first time, a work of him was officially included in a game.

Is the new improved zikz612h available to use in other maps or only in the pts.

My Biggest complaint is the large over hang that gets stuck in a lot of places which can be really annoying 😢

But was there any change in the power, or just the wheels ? And also, i guess they left the 605r's wheels with a width of the old (original) mudrunner tires, so i fits their traction, and be TALL for hauling low to the ground trailers!

Developer point of view, quote from wiki: "SnowRunner is based on the same physics engine developed by Pavel Zagrebelnyy, as MudRunner. During development of SnowRunner, Zagrebelnyy was mainly involved as a consultant, rather than deciding on the gameplay." Development team of SN dit great job, they missed details, I hope they've this in pipeline release til 12th DLC. From this that I saw they adding more to engine across dlc releases. It's good business practice. Add some value that you can sell, with some minor overall improvements. Could be nice to have this at start but.. Modern software, games etc ale awful costly, and they need to chose what is more important for them.

i really wish saber sacrificed the time it takes to make one season just to makes changes like in the "Things mudrunner did better then snowrunner" video. i feel like it would really help the game out personally im happy a classic from mudrunner was brought back

With the wheel lock situation on the 612H, the advanced special gearbox is kinda broken. If you install the fine-tune gearbox the 612H drives and acts as it should. 100 times better, no more wheel lock and the high gear actually works. 🤘😬🤘

Does it's now unflippable like the 605R or still tippy? What's the stats of the wheel? It can support so many add-ons it's so nice!! Here's our new best Long logs hauler!!!

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I hear the 612 should be using the fine tuned option instead of advanced special. I have yet to test this. I wonder if you have?

I just started playing again after 2 years. I only got to update 3, but had up to update 4. So I ended up buying the 612h(4 bucks) to help me get the 605 lol. Almost opened tunnel! I love the game. But. I would not mind a new (insert title) Runner.

What about the Kenworth 963? I would like a review about it.

SD1ONE don’t you usually watermark your videos? Like in the corner?

Yes finally i have reason to stay on mudrunners

Active suspension is needed! And no trailers with logs hurts… common. I’m still goin yo use SE version :)

Who knows maybe we gonna have new king when Kenworth 963 comes out

Have the changes to the 612H been applied already? Or when season 10 comes out?

It's a bit better of an off-roader, but the issue is still that nose and the low suspension. Until that is addressed, even though it can handle more addons, it will get hung up on almost all terrain that the 605 can lumber over. Leaving the 605 clearly in the lead, for me.

Did they fix the weird gear ratios for the Mastodons advanced special gearbox?

I am currently completing Amur. And there 612 is no longer behaving as confidently as 605. 605 is much more agile and passable in relation to Cupid. Alas, 612 just gets stuck in a lot of places. :(

Can you do awd vs diff lock?

Have you tried the modded versions of the 605R yet because those raise the bar even further than the vanilla model by a long shot

do you think you could do a rematch of the tayga vs the ank, but this time, you use the ank civil version

Can you review kenworth 963 ?

Think the reason their hesitant to make the 612 op is because its a 5 dollar purchase in contrast to doing a whole operation spanning multiple maps in the hardest region hands down. Not to say the 612 is bad or anything as it still has great performance but it is still overshadowed by the 605.

There is/was a mod version(Maz 543) of this before, right? I would like such a competition Zikz 612H vs Zikz 605R vs K3K7-286(KZKT-7428) Although I know that it is one of the mods, the fight would not be fair play.

Pour moi c'est le Z2 G6 UNICORN qui est le meilleur véhicule avec sa capacité de rouler sous l'eau sans que sont moteur se noye, une grande puissance du moteur même si il ne va pas très vite, même si c'est un mod console (je ne le sais pas si il a ce mod sur PC ou d'autre plateforme).

Zikz 612H has a chained tires which is another pro point.

Because of it's additional length, there's more ad on's available than there is for the 605. Because of it additional width. It's wider than the 73210. Being a profesional OTR with a couple of million miles using a fifth wheel. The wideness of the Mastadon has caused me to change from the 73210 which I've utilized for over 1,000 hours. I play the entire game and all of it's region's using only a Yar and now two Mastadon. One with a low and one with a high fifth wheel. And though it's a bit slower using only a 3 speed. Nothing ever fall's off, which make the trip faster, when I don't have to put stuff back off; Thus for me, it's faster. Pulling a trailer with a fifth wheel, is considerably more stable than draging a trailer. The additonal from axle a trailer need's when being dragged. Cause stability issue's. Compared to when the only axles are on the back of the truck and the back of the trailer. The front of the trailer is forced to twist only when the back of the truck twist. Not independently as it does having it's own front axle. Not to mention, there's NO issue if and when one has to back up.

Спасибо за интересное видео! я всё думаю покупать этот мод (в стим) или непокупать, но мне кажеться (или я ошибаюсь?) что кран 0:49 станет доступен только купив этот мод? бо сколько не скачивал (в меню игры) модов с ним, он так у меня и непоявился (( а так мне по внешнему виду (и по модулям) нравиться мод HURRICANE PACK особенно аэродромная пожарная машина АА-60 на шасси этого грузовика (в реальности удалось с АА-60 познакомится близко, много нервов (у начальства) потратил на текущую трансмиссию )

It seems to me that there is a new king in the snowrunner! - Kenworth 963 What do you think?

The Engine sound in MR was soooo much better...

Well yes,for now on the Pts the 612h is the king but its a paid dlc and you can have the 605r with the year 1pass but those things dosen't really matter for the king name

Wdym after the changes? He was already King since he came out because of the addons

Old spintires and mudrunner player here. What happen in snowrunner? Feel so bad...

If we would only look at the performance of trucks (and not what addons they can use etc.) then the K-7M would probably be the king without having to fear any competetion, as pure performance wise not even the 605R can match the K-7M

I still think they should always be painted in red... the hoz and the hammer.

From the first race you did the 612H has a HUGE overhang so that’s why it didn’t win (Both 612H’s)

The 612H is supposed to be an improvement over the 605R. So why is it still worse??

For me its Tatra 813 with its wacky suspension.

They still need to fix high gear in the 612

Instead of tire coding, they should just add its original two times wider and a little bit shorter wheels from mudrunner, then this coding will have a point! And also, were there other trucks in this game ? XD

The Mastodon's large nose and lower ground clearance is such a burden. Been using both trucks in Amur and the 612 cannot handle the ice as well as the 605 can. I feel like the 605 is damn near invincible whereas I send the 612 out with trepidation sometimes.

King is still king .

I still love the old king

I jumped in on Snowrunner 2 years ago. I think its an awesome foundation that lacks proper gameplay and mission structure. Its been a big shame to also watch a lot of videos comparing it to the previous titles and how much snowrunner strips back from that great foundation from its predecessors. So much more function and attention to detail, more consistent physics, and vehicles parts were more authentic. From what I hear its because the original people who made the foundation are no longer working on the game. So theres no passion and its just people using it as a platform to make low effort content to monetize off of. Not to say that there isnt any value in the content they've made for it. Just that it could be so so so much better in both directions, In making better gameplay, and better authenticity, more in line with its predecessors.

No matter what the 612 will always be the king to me

The question now will be..... Wich one will be the king, when the big red kenworth is released???

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605r is the best truck

I don't like trucks with the long overhang design. They look absolutely awesome but practical mostly for cities and not offroad because I find myself getting stuck in ditches or mud I didn't even knew existed at some places 😂😂😂

Is just me or it got uglier? E-7310 was handsome and wide AF. Zikz 612H is narrower and taller, like it has been put into a press from the side. Especially noticeable here 8:05 when scenes change.

Next time instead of vehicles they must focus on different truck addons and trailer configs. Its way to bland without mods. Also more logging stuff needs to happen.

ZIKZ mod for SR is so much better than paid DLC

The problem is that it is too easily accessible.

Just add a minicrane in 605, that's all he needs.

Not for anything, if the devs didn't have to cater to the console constraints, SR would be SO much better as a PC only game... the trucks could be so much better than what we get, mainly because of the whole console constraint problem.

le prefere c est de loin le 612H , plus de options, le 605R est limité a un seul jeux de pneus!

Why my comment dissapeared?

constantly same typo, its saddle not sadle

Zikz 612h compared to E-7310 from mudrunner looks like after summer holiday in these rotten west countries 😅

Just buff it beyond ridiclousness, give it to us already. Best course of action would be imo is to not make it a DLC, refund everyone, and put the truck somewhere in basegame Russia, perhaps give it its own small and painful map. And ofcourse, make the truck crazy powerful. And maybe make it look actually good? Those wheels are pitiful.

Voron AE is king

I bought a dlc car now I feel like I cheated and it ruined the game for me.

pay2win truck

Overral i still think zizk 605R is still king beacuse he is free and other pluses that is 605 R better