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I love this. I don't really listen to techno, I'm more into industrial and ambient, but I still found SO much of this to be insanely helpful. Your approach to music itself, being thoughtful about the relationship between the parts - this is lo-fi so let the hats anchor it - it's really universally applicable in any kind of electronic music.
Really love this format where you study the sound of an artist in depth over multiple videos. Good channel man. Really interested in more industrial stuff! The producer deep dive looks interesting as well!
Once again, a great style to cover. There arent enough people breaking down the more underground styles of techno. Keep content like this coming. Thank you
The best tutorials around... Way you explain things is just great! Just watching new tutorials everywhere to find something new but here i'm learning A LOT instead. Thanks
It's such a good set of plugins. From a basic effects stance you have all bases covered. They are super high quality with a great "Sound Toy's signature sound" to them. You allso have some more uncommon effects like tape delay, the double filter and some others what can bring some more unique sounds to your music. The thing I love most about them, every single one of their plugins, even their more standard effects have at least one or two really unusual peramiters to play with that you'll struggle to find anywhere else on the same effect type, at least not as a single button or knob if you can find something else that does it at all. They really do make for some novel results.
I come from a graphical background, and I defo see/hear the correlation between contrasts visually and audible. Like u make me aware of how the fresh hats are in contrast with the dark fuzz of the beat and how it lifts it up and even accentuates.
Glad you feel the same! I think once you go deep enough into any discipline and understand the concepts, suddenly you see those concepts manifested in everything, in all disciplines, it's wild 😊
@@OscarUnderdog I tried my best to understand iLok and it works with plugins until I decided to give soundtoys products a miss. Please do a precise video on how to install and activate iLok connected products.
As an older 'electro-goth', i feel like so much of the older industrial works (from Elsplendor Geometrico to Imminent Starvation) could also benefit from your style of dissection. Great to see how "the saussage is made"
Broooooo I've been waiting for this kind of content !!! Thank youuu. Also, I saw SNTS live in Geneva and in Berlin st Synoid. Was unreal !!!! Going to see him at Voltage Festival 2021 after so many months without real partying
You are literally the best RU-vid out here making techno tutorials. Literally just thinking about signing up to underdog BC I bet I can learn so much from such an easy videoformat with well explained parts. I just don't do as on the screen but I understand how and why as well! Keep up the awesome work!
@@stjezabels5335 Basically, put a saturator/overdrive/distortion/whatever in your effect chain earlier in your effect chain, and put a compressor later in your effect chain
Great! My favorite genre ever since the 90s! How I miss those days' crazy underground parties at weird locations... I always called this 'gallophouse', for lack of a better word. I love your channel and what you're doing for today's dance-community with your tutorials. Brilliant.
Hands down best teacher of those topics on youtube I have run into and I have seen quite alot ever since I took up producing. All the best and will looking forward on more techno lessons : )
Damn man!!!!! I’m so happy to see you make this video. I love industrial but within the past few months… I’ve discovered EBM and now I’m loving this new genre. *Please start tutorials on EBM music.* I’m sure it’ll do good. Your tutorial vids are king!
Hey man I'm glad I found your page. Thanks for your classes I'm thinking about joining one of your sessions im finishing up another class right now but I will definitely be checking you out getting into Ableton like never before thanks a million for the insight!!!
the origin of this kind of drums is not SNTS but people from the HARDTECHNO scene. Sven wittekind Boris S Sutura Arkus P Viperxxl Waldhaus Weichentechnikk and more
Yeah.. Early days of Chris Liebling DJ Rush, Tok Tok, Felix Kröscher and even Monika Kruse. You all have to check out Hörspielmusik from Pierre and Marky (Nagen und Saugen)
Good tricks. I don't use decapitor, but I use the D16 group's Devastor, basically it's harmonic saturation (going to Distortion). I heard people say about samples, if they are broken, break them more ... 8-bit reduction is good for that too (Decimort).
Right! I use their Redoptor, and also the input gain on decimort leads to heavy distortion too. Have been on the fence about Devastor - you recommend it?
Oh snap, I have always called them UpHatz too! Thought I was being silly, but now I know others think the same. One difference here though is I call Rolling HH "Groove Hatz"
I had to rewind but still couldn't tell if you were saying "honky frequency". There is a vast, t hilarious, world of fun to be had with that term. I might have to name a track after it. That said, I enjoy your videos as it gives me insight and knowledge from a perspective from someone who approaches production from a vastly different angle than I do.
Another Industrial thing that would be awesome to demystify is the Greek Industrial techno scene, mainly SAWF and ANFS. Their pumping buzzy tracks just fill in a really specific niche for me.
I tried this kind of kick but with extra dynamic, not so squashed, and this sounds way more powerful compared at the same perceived volume that a super compressed thing. Kicks just got bigger impact and have a real punch that contrast with the rumble. Just a matter of taste tho, but always good to share to people that feel curious and want to try at least one to compare. Take time to get the right dynamic, but this really sounds good in both way. And even on hard music, I like to get dynamic things even tho I need to turn volume up when djing. Anyway, good tips here, looking your vids for few days, interesting point of view and advices!
Awesome video man, good tips and tricks. Will give me a headstart on creating this on my analog rytm. If you would want i could show you my progress in a few days or weeks when I'm satisfied with the groove :) Thanks a lot 🔥
This reminds me a bit on hard groove techno (without the HH, rides and cymbals). Could you maybe do a video about that in the future, please? Thank you. 😁
It's great to see videos about industrial music! Would suggest you study some of Tactical Sekt's songs, like Faded Prophecy. They are usually very rich in melodies and bass lines but can't figure them out. For example, in Faded Prophecy the drums and bassline start at 0:16 but can't really figure out how is the bassline shaped.
@@stephenroldan5107 well thanks guys. It’s really because back then I sucked at mixing LOL. I had no idea about side-chain. It was just a wall of noise which people seemed to like. But I go back and listen to those old TS tracks and think I could have done it so much better. But thanks for the support!
(fwiw) @ 5:00 +Could be worth mentioning: it appears "RumbleHigh" track's delay time seems to have been changed as well; and specifically to another different odd-number value, [1] & [1] in this case (from the looks of it), which imho is the main contributing factor influencing the groove of this particular track/sound and how it contrasts with its 'other-half' so to speak. Definitely not a big deal really at all. Just a sort of glossed over point I happened to notice/be curious about, plus I figured someone may benefit from the minimal effort either way! Awesome video btw, seriously, genuinely, thank you for everything you do! 👏😁💯
Yeah they arn't cheap! I remeber when I started to buy legit versions of all the pirated plugins I used and the pricetag on a few made me almost change my mind lol. There was an emulated digital Lexicon reverb I used to love the sound of (seriously the cleanest vst reverb plugin I'd ever heard). When I went to buy it and realised it was about £2000 for a single program all of a sudden it didn't sound so good anymore. 😂 You get such a better experiance with the licenced versions of most complex plug ins tho, especially sound toys as the cracked versions would regulary crash. It's also not fair to use them for free forever, as without payment from anyone they don't make any plug ins at all. To try out a load of diferant ones to see what you like, as a broke novice I think it's ok. But if you find yourself using one a lot, it's much better for everyone to go and buy a real copy after. No excuses for professionals to still be using cracked stuff tho imo. It just doesn't make sence for a novice to shell out 2 grand for a couple of EQs and Filters or for a single reverb if all they wanna do is play with them a handful of times. Totally differant if you use them everyday and make a living off the back of them though. Excuse the tangent lol
i don't understand why, but there seems to be a massive deprivation of industrial aim'd content such as this. this wasn't just a little something to gnaw on though, i can say honestly that i'm better from watching this. shucks i guess yall learned me something. learning good stuff is fun too, so thanks for this great content. to better express how much this was appreciated this guy right here went third person cause nothing says "it landed" like dude going third. someone's mom confirmed too, but which......liked. subscribed. ding'd that bell too. keep it up and i'll do the same. also, someone needs to come own these 5 thumbs down cause unless their shoulders are on the ground and they're actually signaling something they like, then i want to know what felt so wrong about this content to deserve a downy.
This vid was great; thanks...... Unfortunately though, you fell into a trap that it seems a lot of content producers do. I.E: "...And I've added some sidechain" - Um, yes.... But you have side-chained what effect to what what key input? "...And I've applied an LFO" - Similarly, what effect/parameter are you applying the LFO to?
I see, here is a lot of knowledge! techno is a mystery to me, so I'd like to try my hand at this genre. Is according to You Genelec 8030 + sub is a good idea for a small studio or maybe it is better to invest in monitors with a larger woofer instead of a sub? Thanks for your work.
Rofl, I was litteraly just commenting about D16 group plugins on your other vid, and said there's one I used on like 90% of all the tracks I've made but I couldn't remeber the name... Looks like we share a secret haha.
The bee version of Redux in Live11 totally takes decimorts best features btw, it almost makes it obsolete! Decimort does have that tasty input drive though, and a second filter, but still...
@@OscarUnderdog Ah I grew up on cubase so missed out on the cool ableton built in stuff, although I have wired ableton to run through cubase before specifically so I could use an effect from live in the middle of a effects chain on cubase without having to constantly bounce audio over and over every time I changed something 😏. It's a pain to keep track of everything (especially with my worrk flow) when your tune is spread across two DAWs so I tend to only do that if there's no other way to get what I'm looking for (via bounce to audio and import etc). It's also been a few too many years since I produced anything seriously so am a little out of touch on all the fun new stuff that's come out in the last 5-10 years (mby not quite ten as I've dabbled here and there since). It makes me excited to get back into it tho, as do these vids hehe.
Nice Tutorial 👍 Im watchin on my mobile, so i didnt hear lows. But doesent the rumble create a big mess when overlapping the next Kick? Even if you sidechain it it should overlap the next rumble, or is there anything i got wrong?🤔🧐
You're totally right, there is some overlap, and there is the risk of having a terrifyingly messy low end 😂 BUT: a bit of mess isn't bad, a bit of masking isn't a drama, and a bit of overlap is not necessarily your enemy. You're right to be mindful of it and to try to ensure the low end stays coherent, but it doesn't need to be too clean either.
Yep! Its similar but this way you can resample them more easily, which you will want to do later (if you watch the 2nd video in the series). In general, it's also just a good idea to pay extra attention to those layers as their own instrument, so they deserve some extra real estate :)
