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Rookie mistakes in techno 

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Let's take a look at some techno tracks I made 10 years ago, and learn 4 lessons from them so you don't repeat the mistakes of my younger self 😂
(wow the noise examples really got mangled by the video codec, sorry!!!)
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Contents:
0:00 Intro
0:44 The three tracks
1:51 Lesson 1: Hear what you are doing
4:30 The low limit monitor test
7:43 Lesson 2: Clean up your low end
10:35 Lesson 3: Tonal balance
16:35 Lesson 4: Clarify the groove of the track
21:20 About making rookie mistakes

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Torc: soundcloud.com/torcaudio 🔥🔥🔥 Face the Sun: soundcloud.com/face-the-sun-be 🌈🌈🌈 Find Oscar's video courses here: courses.underdog.brussels 🖤🖤🖤 Join the Underdog Discord channel: discord.gg/z5N9CTA 👾👾👾
@Rex-dk1rx
@Rex-dk1rx 2 года назад
Could u sometime base a track around Error Func, Flamingo zoom on lucidflow label love to get a understanding on what they are doing with the bass sounds and sharpness of the mids and what sort of sound design they are doing. Lucidflow label is amazing when it comes to production
@MaceOjala
@MaceOjala 2 года назад
Yeah techno or GTFO. Great sound and always super insightful and engaging videos! Thanks for sharing them
@boydw1
@boydw1 Год назад
An important aspect of the Fletcher Munson / Equal Loudness curves, is that they are a DYNAMIC curve, in other words, our perception of EQ balance changes based on the listening level/SPL. It's important to check your mixes at levels that resemble the anticipated SPL the audience will typically experience.
@bababodhi
@bababodhi Год назад
This guy is incredible, not spending too much time with all the small details or DAW technicalities, which we figure out either way, but teaching us the general principles and concepts of what makes a good track. Not only this is useful when producing, but even just listening to EDM, I can now hear what decisions the producer made to make the tracks sound great. Thanks Oscar.
@nu7m39.in.l0v3
@nu7m39.in.l0v3 10 месяцев назад
Indeed, thanks a bunch ✌️❤️🙂
@ricardojmestre
@ricardojmestre 9 месяцев назад
Yes he is ❤
@designzonebeats
@designzonebeats 5 месяцев назад
This is really great even at the frequency test. As a 49yo beginner I wonder if my hearing of high or low frequencies will effect the music I make. Only 1 BlackSabbath/Motorhead concert in my history 🤣
@aerialgrey2566
@aerialgrey2566 2 года назад
I’ve been producing for 10+ years and I still learned some things. The way that you’re able to express and articulate your thoughts is direct and easy to understand…Great content bro.
@citizenoftheverse4653
@citizenoftheverse4653 Год назад
Producing since 1995 and those video are so much pertinent !
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 2 года назад
Another killer tutorial. When he's on his game, Oscar's doing the best Techno tutorials on RU-vid.
@AlbertSirup
@AlbertSirup 2 года назад
very cool, i love how roasting your own old tracks allows you to be critical without holding back - much more helpful than analysing other people's tracks where you naturally don't want to demotivate people
@kubagornowicz
@kubagornowicz Год назад
Story of my life around 20 years ago in ReBirth and Fruity Loops - tracks I made are dry as Sahara sand - I wish I had back then all the resources that RU-vid can give you today. But I hope for a new fresh start now.
@mechanicom
@mechanicom 2 года назад
Man, based on your early monitoring situation..I’m impressed!
@ethanpreston
@ethanpreston 2 года назад
Absolutely the best electronic production channel on YT, always so clear and understandable in the way you explain everything! Keep it up!
@mukulkataria9128
@mukulkataria9128 Месяц назад
My first comment ever on your channel. I just want to let you know that you are the best teacher here on entire RU-vid. Especially covering all type of music not just techno. But you are my go to techno teacher. Love your content.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog Месяц назад
Thank yoooouuuu 🩵
@idontknowwhattoputhere371
@idontknowwhattoputhere371 Год назад
this is my fav channel so glad I found it.
@prantorp
@prantorp Год назад
You continue to give us gold - thanks!
@namyzarcmai
@namyzarcmai 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing your early work, that takes a lot of courage! And great tips, as always
@ikkoikki2773
@ikkoikki2773 2 года назад
Been watching a bunch of your videos while beginning and learning how to create tracks (only about a year and a half experience). Thank you for what you do!
@dodogreners
@dodogreners 2 года назад
This video was bloody fantastic. Just what I was looking for! THANK YOU
@dominikpoignee9297
@dominikpoignee9297 2 года назад
Great video! This made me feel finally understand at least some basics. Now have to test it on my tracks 😁
@Samivermusic
@Samivermusic 2 года назад
Cool video. Been producing for just over a year and your videos and other you tubers sure help. Still learning but see progression in my soundcloud so good for you to share your earlier work to aspire others to get better.
@brutalkubi
@brutalkubi 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your great tips always!!!
@riquelmista6153
@riquelmista6153 2 года назад
SUPER useful tips!! Thank you very much, you have a great way to communicate your knowledge.
@soifpls
@soifpls 2 года назад
Each video I'm amazed at how much I can learn thanks to you. And I'm not even trying to produce music, but my listening experience is greatly enhanced - now, I'm gonna pay attention to the tonal balance of my favorite tracks for instance. Thanks !!
@andreglam1
@andreglam1 11 месяцев назад
You are the best! It's so easy to learn with you man!
@Luwispurpul
@Luwispurpul 2 года назад
That was an excellent video. I really enjoyed it. One other thing I have found helpful with building groove is prioritizing elements and then using notch EQ to cut out the strongest frequencies of your high priority elements in your lower priority elements. So for example if you have a clap that hits with a lot of energy at 800hz, and a noisy texture sound that comes in from say 400 - 4k hz then use an eq to cut a “dip” out of it around the 800hz mark. I’m sure you know this already tho :)
@jokmenen_
@jokmenen_ 2 года назад
I also knew, but this is a good reminder that i need to do this more often!
@sinewaves1631
@sinewaves1631 2 года назад
This would be what trackspacer would do too right?
@CatFish107
@CatFish107 2 года назад
I sure did not know this. Thanks for sharing!
@aerialgrey2566
@aerialgrey2566 2 года назад
Yep! You can notch and you can also sidechain so that every time that clap hits, the noisy texture slightly dips. I do both depending on the sounds being used.
@keithjones3481
@keithjones3481 Месяц назад
Yes indeed. I think it is important to do the stuff that Oscar was talking about first. That way you probably don't need as much eq (ie shallower notches). This is where dynamic eq comes to the fore. That way the noisy texture (as you put it) is only affected when the clap hits. I always use dymanic eq and sidechaining for the Kick and Bass. It's like magic. Whomever invented it should get a Nobel Peace Award IMO 😄
@carlosgil9886
@carlosgil9886 2 года назад
Dude you are an amazing teacher, thanks for your work. Honest and clear.
@tombanner3720
@tombanner3720 2 года назад
Thanks for the incredible content Oscar! Best electronic music teacher I have ever listened to. (And please keep up the Reason videos!)
@phantom-lab
@phantom-lab 2 года назад
Your teaching style is next level. Clear and precise. You have helped me so much and I thank you! 😉
@mattster303
@mattster303 2 года назад
Really interesting and informative, learned a few things, Thanks!
@TheDjAliceD
@TheDjAliceD 2 года назад
pls more Videos like this, this realy helps so much!!
@onito974
@onito974 Год назад
Great job, easy to understand, i learn a lot with your videos, many thanks
@meltdowninteractivemedia
@meltdowninteractivemedia 5 месяцев назад
I'm really enjoying these videos, so insightful. Thanks Oscar.
@djdsp8207
@djdsp8207 Год назад
Thank you, for taking the time to teach for free. I appreciate what I learned from you and it has helped me immensely. I just wanted to say thank you.
@midcam
@midcam Год назад
Really all in in this video! Thanks! 👍
@carlrowlinson2833
@carlrowlinson2833 2 года назад
Wow! I heard so many of my own mistakes in your examples Oscar! That groove tip is a game changer!
@unternehme
@unternehme Год назад
incredibly useful, I have been making most of these mistakes myself at the beginning and wish I had been explained this back then!
@noxyu3m
@noxyu3m Год назад
You are an amazing teacher and really great in explanations! ❤
@frankiewylde7649
@frankiewylde7649 2 года назад
the audible groove and overall feeling of a techno track was awesome insight. i would love to see you do a video of building a groove, and balancing the various elements in real time to make a coherent groove that works really well! thank you for your videos, loving your content.
@draganbevandic2859
@draganbevandic2859 2 года назад
Just what i needed, thanks Oscar!
@jsav100
@jsav100 2 года назад
GREAT idea for a tutorial! Thank you!
@jang3853
@jang3853 2 года назад
This is one of you best videos Oscar, thank you! And I can only confirm, learning gain staging and using references is crucial for a good sound. Took me way too long to realise that.
@diegosalazar1086
@diegosalazar1086 2 года назад
So many answers in this video! amazing class
@ruidokalasa3171
@ruidokalasa3171 2 года назад
definitely the most util and necesarie videos of music production on the entire known internet
@talentro3304
@talentro3304 2 года назад
Thank you sir very well explained I'm sure takes a lot of practice on the tips you shared ❤️
@GrozerVonTeplitz
@GrozerVonTeplitz Год назад
Very useful indeed, you are very clever because nobody has ever explained it too me like you do. I actually learned something 😁👍thanks
@MoodooVanSpoon
@MoodooVanSpoon Год назад
Thanks. Best EDM teacher I have seen on youtube. I am struggling with choice paralysis so I like how you break things down. Also you seem like a thoroughly nice bloke! Wishing you the best with your channel and music. M.
@Nerdchacho
@Nerdchacho 2 года назад
This is the tutorial I needed 10 years ago... maybe I wouldn't have given up....
@jajurrian
@jajurrian 2 года назад
It's never too late to try again bro
@ezerkilenc100
@ezerkilenc100 2 года назад
lets give it another try man keep it up bro
@chromosundrift
@chromosundrift 2 года назад
If you're watching this, I'd say you haven't given up.
@thewizard8955
@thewizard8955 Год назад
You can always try again
@myceliumtechno
@myceliumtechno 2 года назад
What a great teacher you are!
@citizenoftheverse4653
@citizenoftheverse4653 Год назад
Great video and content as always....
@AlPlatino
@AlPlatino 2 года назад
Thanks for these advices! Cheers from Madrid.
@NIGH.NE.
@NIGH.NE. 2 года назад
Always great advise, thanks :)
@ko_3x335
@ko_3x335 2 года назад
Wow! Very important Stuff right on the point explained with your own Story, Examples and Mistakes. Really enjoyed this Video :-)
@FranckMartin
@FranckMartin 2 года назад
I enjoyed this video, especially describing what I hear.
@grzesiek13307
@grzesiek13307 3 месяца назад
I love your videos, big up!
@xgmode
@xgmode Год назад
Some solid advice here, thanks a lot.
@daly_ramay
@daly_ramay 2 года назад
Thanks Oscar! You make musical world better! I wish you a good luck!
@analisatafro5140
@analisatafro5140 Год назад
Wow. I am 8 months into production and this was a lightbulb video for me. Thank you!!
@konzekuenze
@konzekuenze 2 года назад
Another great and very useful video. I also wish I had all the help available now when I was younger. Thank you Oskar. A suggestion for a video about fails... Sidechain.
@MrMichaelHeat
@MrMichaelHeat 2 года назад
Very pleasant and easy to understand. Can I really confirm everything exactly like that. Also, how well he gets to the heart of the important things will save many a beginner many years of frustration. And you also get a rough structure that helps you to find a start and to keep track. Thank you. 😀
@briancase6180
@briancase6180 Год назад
This is just excellent advice, a truly great lesson on some very important fundamentals. Even though I know these lessons instinctively, I'm not certain I could have articulated them as well as this. Thanks! This is very useful. I wish I had seen it three years ago!
@TheC0G
@TheC0G Год назад
Absolutely incredible and invaluable video. Thank you for sharing!! 😎👍🎶🎵👏👏
@bricheag
@bricheag 9 месяцев назад
Extremely useful info in this video and also in all your underdog clips from your channel. ❤
@tonyt303
@tonyt303 2 года назад
Excellent presentation. Thank you. You have one more subscriber xx
@ArcticXun-936
@ArcticXun-936 2 года назад
I’ve learned so much from your videos, and I really appreciate your work that you do. 🙏 Btw. On a side note; I watched this on my iPad without headphones & I could surprisingly still hear the sound down to 34~33Hz 😄
@goldwingdu44
@goldwingdu44 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this video !
@martinbridgewater
@martinbridgewater 2 года назад
I’ve learned more in this 22 minuet video than I did in the years of ‘experimenting’. Eureka moment. Thank you!
@adamdoppler
@adamdoppler 2 месяца назад
Real dope. Thank you so much.
@pierrestachowicz5249
@pierrestachowicz5249 2 года назад
You're freakin fuckin amazing thanks for the quality content mate
@Jefrejtor
@Jefrejtor 2 года назад
Fastest click of my goddamn life. Love your content (but techno especially ;D)
@binsquirrel
@binsquirrel 2 года назад
Useful stuff as always
@interestedbystander196
@interestedbystander196 2 года назад
I LOVE this!! ❤
@JaffaDelicious
@JaffaDelicious 2 года назад
Reason does have a handy frequency display. It's the large button with the wiggly line just below the yellow EQ tab on the SSL mixer. Super useful.
@redbones6046
@redbones6046 Год назад
I was just scrolling through to see if anybody had pointed that out
@dbdbdb12345
@dbdbdb12345 2 года назад
great video ! thank you !! keep doing good job :)
@jonwatte4293
@jonwatte4293 2 года назад
80 euros should be enough for a pair of MDR 7505 headphones. Mixing only on phones alone isn't great, but it's probably better than just bookshelf speakers. And then look at the spectrogram and compare to good mixes :-)
@ReasonStudios
@ReasonStudios 2 года назад
Great tips!
@pahvalrehljkov
@pahvalrehljkov Год назад
bruh, your tutorials are amazing, but your techno is even better :D
@fabgott8026
@fabgott8026 9 месяцев назад
Amazing auto analysis and criticism. I don't recall I ever seen any video like this. Very helpful. Started to follow after I've watched one of your video about the rumble on reason. You're my man. Big thanks 🤜🤛
@barely_awake
@barely_awake 2 года назад
Awesome video! A quick tipp in regards to high-passing (or a little addition to your tipp on listening to the sound "thinning out"): Consider the key your song is in and root notes you use in your music. If the lowest note in your song is an A, you should cut frequencies a few semitones below that note, as to not take away the "foundation" of your sound (e.g. an A1 is 110 Hz, so you should maybe start cutting at somewhere around 100 Hz).
@murat_buyuk
@murat_buyuk 2 года назад
Still hearing 30Hz, 27Hz was more like feeling than hearing :D
@SuperRingoffire1
@SuperRingoffire1 2 года назад
Brilliant advice cheers 👌😁☮
@omojjegomosc8211
@omojjegomosc8211 Год назад
Useful as always
@evanmetayer7858
@evanmetayer7858 Год назад
You're an excellent teacher and it takes a lot of heart to criticize your own tracks in such a way. Thank you. Groove is huge for me right now. Refusing to touch the 'Swing' knob and doing everything manually, nudging drums on the grid at 960 PPQ. Can already tell it's making me better.
@CaptainPhilosophical
@CaptainPhilosophical 2 года назад
Along with good speakers, I found that my room was also important. When I first started I played in my basement which had a concrete floor, finished walls, and no drop ceiling. All the surfaces were relfective. This resulted in me fighting mud that surfaced after the sound left my PAs. My new "studio" in my next house has carpet on the floor, a drop cieling, and I made acoustic panels from rigid 3M fiberglass panels. Plus theres soft furniture in the room. So, there is much less mud. Good headphones would eliminate that for everyone but I like to mix on the PAs I am going to use so there are less surprises. Thanks Oscar for your time and efforts in sharing your knowledge. Peace.
@MayzMatthiasYzebaert
@MayzMatthiasYzebaert 2 года назад
Savage! :D Much fun, good idea for a video. Thx for the tips. Very relatable as well (I would cringe so hard at my own tracks amai haha).
@mikroflake23
@mikroflake23 2 года назад
Gold thanx mate🙏🏻❤️
@Bartyron
@Bartyron 6 месяцев назад
i may be a musical illiterate, but I like the snippets of Hedon and Instinct massively.
@fredericpasco2863
@fredericpasco2863 2 года назад
hey mate , always brillant u are , thx a lot
@roryfunkedub
@roryfunkedub 2 года назад
That little EQ scope looking button above the HP/LP filter controls opens up the spectrum analyzer.
@j3ffn4v4rr0
@j3ffn4v4rr0 Год назад
Wow, the low limit monitor test was really insightful!! I don't have "real" studio monitors, but I do have a fairly high end (not super audiophile) stereo system with a nice powered subwoofer.....I could hear fine down to 36Hz, and then there was a dip where I couldn't hear anything down to 31Hz, and then the sound came back until 27Hz where it disappeared again.
@GeekGearSynths
@GeekGearSynths 2 года назад
Super helpful! Thanks a lot!
@Luka_Griffin
@Luka_Griffin 10 месяцев назад
Hi Oscar! About a year ago when I first watched this video I did the frequency test with my cheap headset and way above the 45-40 Hz level, I couldn't hear a thing. I just got a new pro-level headset, and the first thing I remembered was this video. I'm so happy that I can hear those frequencies with this headset. I'm very happy your channel is doing great. Thank you for your content. I hope to become one of your students soon.
@OpenEarth
@OpenEarth 2 года назад
I love how practical your examples are, especially the relationship with white, pink, and brown noise and how that relates to looking at a track's RMS and LUFS. Absolutely brilliant. I have several tracks that I really like, but they have a lot of issues despite all of the other tutorials I've watched about tonal balance and mastering, and this one video has given me a real plan to address what has been getting me stuck for months. Your videos always take me 500% longer to go through because I take so many notes. ;)
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Cheers, so happy it's helpful ✌✌😁
@michaeljohn2029
@michaeljohn2029 2 года назад
Love your videos.... I suffered the same really and only appreciated what your saying when i bought my KRK ROKIT monitors....They are just awesome for me..... Not sure if you know either (i assume you do) but if you press F2 in REASON it bring up a full spectrum analyser EQ box where you can adjust LPF, HPF for each track using a more familiar style line curve...
@tkctrlofevltn
@tkctrlofevltn Год назад
Amazing explanation
@binarysun_
@binarysun_ 2 года назад
I am most impressed how those old tracks still load in your Ableton version. I have lost numerous tracks through incompatibilities. That's why I stopped using Ableton at some point.
@scarixix
@scarixix Год назад
Said it before but will say it again : Thank you so much for these informative videos ! I have heard tracks where my younger self was not careful in mixing where various brighter elements in my loops would "stack" and make ugly abrasive sounds. Would not notice at time and makes cringe hearing now. Ah well ! Constantly learning and attempting to improve. Cheers !
@roxasparks
@roxasparks 2 года назад
-chills in car- i could hear all the way down till you stopped... awwwww yeee!!!
@jamesbolt4489
@jamesbolt4489 2 года назад
Thank you.. great video
@GeorgeLocke
@GeorgeLocke 9 месяцев назад
What is groove? Groove is in the heart.
@gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo
@gbigbo_zjebeezjeboo Год назад
Excellent advise !
@FredericVCthinking
@FredericVCthinking 2 года назад
Great video! ✨
@MikeH_PR
@MikeH_PR 2 года назад
Brilliant, accessible theory. Feeling here like I may reach a 7 out of 10, applying these tips to my next track.
@ravemealone
@ravemealone 2 года назад
I remember discovering sidechain... it was gift from heaven 🤯
@Evaso_CC
@Evaso_CC 2 года назад
Would love to see another video on the Reason pro production tips you mention - including gain staging :)
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