So...about Sunshower Heathcliff [Limbus Company] 

THE PROTECTION NOT APPLYING BEFORE ATTACK IS FINALLY BEING FIXED! IGNORE THAT PART OF THE VIDEO! SUNCLIFF ON TOP!

Sunshower Heath: A really fun but flawed id that has potential for high damage Shi Heath: 2 attack weight s3 funny and 50 percent hp threshold at ut4 is nice N Heath: Nicely designed unit and important for N corp teams R Heath: He's not gonna sugarcoat it: QUICK SUPPRESSION QUICK SUPRESSION QUICK SUPRESSION

PM really just be adding "Burst Tremor" whenever they don't know what to put on an ID

A friend of mine made a good analogy for Sunshower Hearhcliff/Dongbaek, they’re forcing themselves to feel awful, but every clash win reminds them of those sweet memories of the past in the league

I believe in him.

5 videos in and you are already the best Limbus Company creator. I hope you and this game skyrocket into popularity. I love your vids dude keep it up

Alet people of the present! Potential man has reached full potential, i repeat Potential man has reached full Potential.

In my opinion Sunshower Heathcliffs problems come from being designed with the sanity update in mind. Sanity update that was rolled back because it made every fight a slog. Sanity changes in fight were so small that having ways to manage Sanity would have made you toptier. But the update was rolled back because it made Nclair the only viable identity to have on team. Sunshower had been robbed of his place in the sun before he was released. And his uptie 4 only mitigated his design failures.

To be honest, i would like suncliff to be the first negative coin id with his own niche,like not being able to regain sanity at all,but when he reaches -45 he does not corrode,instead he gets a passive that benefits and hurt his allies, like: when this unit defeats an enemy,all allies gain x strengh and x haste,but lose x amount of sanity,and then to deactivate this buff,you could tie it to using a parry,and the downside would be having his ego locked during the mode.

I feel that sunshower heathcliffs cycle is too fragile because its so easy for him to take too many attacks and distort as a result. He shouldn't be clashing but sometimes he has no choice but to because of speed rolls and if he happens to lose when he can't afford it, he can easily distort

I think the real missed opportunity here is not giving him a unique panic type. If he had something like that, where he could actually just like sit at -45, it would make him have a niche over Sinclair. Now N Sinclair is going to be way better than him because uhhh fucking 30 lol, but he does, at least in longer fights, require concessions. You either have to teambuild with Grip Faust to make managing his sanity reasonable through either her support or normal passive, or use his guard to take a turn off so he doesn't start smacking the hell out of your allies. Suncliff being able to roll as consistently as a normal sanity unit without having to make very many compromises would be great for him, especially with Telepole.

Potential Man is now good. All thanks to Season 4.

I've tried Sunshower Heathcliff in Mirror Dungeons, and it's actually quite rough on him. He gains SP from enemy defeats, even by allies, so it's very hard to keep him from rocketing to high SP at all times. He also has a place as a placeholder ID on my Envy Luxcavation team, and it's mainly for the envy skill 1. There aren't many characters I'd consider to have strong envy synergy.

my main usage for Sunshower Heath is to solo the final boss of MDH2. So far I've had him solo the frog, centipede and bull. I'll play the dungeon normally and just have Heath sit on the bench. Come last floor, the node before the boss, I'll optimize my team, (mainly Nclair and Reindeer Ish for their passives) and pray I get I get a boss that wont wreck him since u can't see which boss you'll get beforehand. I think it's fun personally but I know others will disagree, and that's okay!

Suncliff is now useful in like 1/10 of the game, it's so over for you

Man, I am so happy that you exist. I suppose that you're the only Limbus content maker, who makes really interesting videos that I can discuss it with my friends. You should be praised

I like using him to solo some MD bosses. sometimes including him on some luxvacation too (grew bored using RHeathcliff all the time). and the only change that I wish for him is honestly changing that his counter. from "TAILS hit gain 1 paralyze" to "ON HIT gain 2 paralyze"... other than that, I honestly like him. but at the same time I can see where peeps who just downright hate this ID are coming from. build up sucks ass for sure, but I love it. requires some thinking on how to approach a battle, and considering the majority of the this community... yeah, they'll hate him for sure (just kidding... kinda)

This might sound odd, but I actually tend to think the automatic consumption of sinking in Foxcliff's passive oftentimes works against him. Because Foxcliff wants to be using his counter, wants to be taking hits for the Blunt damage up, there usually is no great difficulty in consuming the stacks of sinking he accrues over time. In many occasions in my personal testing, all the first part of the passive tended to do is make his sanity loss even worse. When you have only one sinking count, the sinking is consumed before Foxcliff can gain protection, and before the count can be increased with Skills 1 and 3. This is particularly relevant in a Dungeon scenario where Foxcliff's passive is activated by previously gained resources, you lose out on the ability to do turn 1 counter, turn 2 skill 1 clash lose to set yourself at -24 without the use of EGO (Side note, -24 is a really awkward number for skill 2 getting buffs at -25). It's an odd thing where an ostensibly key useful aspect of the passive can instead cause so additional difficulty. Maybe it would be best to see Foxcliff's passive be changed to Resonance base so that it would be possible to actively choose between stockpiling Sinking count and consuming it?

Incredible video production, so clean and informative, great graphics and even a little touch of humour, defiantly a lot of work put into making such videos

Looking forward to your future videos its nice to have a good content creator for Limbus.

Alright alright I'm really liking the videos, they're so informative and have been helping me out. Happy Birthday!

As soon as you released your first video I knew you were going to be one of my favourite limbus content creators thank you for making awesome content Your quality is simply unmatched

Honestly looking forward to these vids, you might be newer to content creation but it's pure kino, Great work

i started playing limbus cuz i absolutely loved the lore and worldbuilding done in Lobo Corp/Ruina but was met with a considerable content drought about the game. Very happy to see such high quality content being done, keep it up o/

he really is the id of all time but i love using him in abno fights + identities using EGO gear is really cool in general (also happy birthday !🎉)

God, i love your video editing

This ID also has the curse that it is compared with R-Heath, as is the case with all Heath IDs. You know, the lad that could one shot the Mexican with quick suppression in the my form empties boss in Refraction Railway.

YES THE GOAT HAS UPLOADED!

Happy Birthday! Probably late but still hope you had a fun B-day

Congrats on blowing up.

I have a lot of feelings towards Sunshower Heathcliff, and I’m glad to see that your review of him was well written and thorough. Sunshower Heathcliff was my guaranteed 000 from the Season 2 Decaextraction ticket from the Battlepass. Prior to getting him I had absolutely no idea who he was or what he did, and since I was shooting for Spicebush Yi Sang I was at first upset. But then I Uptied him to three and saw his story, and I instantly fell in love. Spice Yi is my favourite design wise, but Suncliff is a close second and my favourite in terms of personal story. Like you’ve explained in your video however, he’s ultimately flawed and often times a burden to use, and with that a very big choice. There are other IDs to use, but none of them are as difficult and complex as Suncliff. It’s a brilliant sight to see him succeed, but that doesn’t change the fact his value usually isn’t worth the precision required to pilot him. Regardless however, he is one of my most treasured units (Uptie 4’d him second), and honestly I’ve found good success with him in MD2 Hard! It’s unfortunate that Uptie 4 didn’t give him the value he needed to be viable, but I’m happy with him. P.S. Your videos are all excellent and the quality has made me decide to even set notifications for your upload. I find myself rewatching them simply for how thoughtfully put together they are.

6:27 I think PM made s3 pierce to add dmg type variety. If it were blunt, it would be directly competing with Nclair's s3 (won't sugarcoat it) and the blunt dmg up is probably to set up for a powerful s2 which can probably be thought as an alternative for nclair s3. Still a really weird kit with skills that does not synergize with eachother well

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Damn this video is so high quality im surprised you are this low subs count. Man this video is amazing and i hope you get the support you deserve, amazing video

I quickly picked up on how to use Sunshower Heath only after a few fights with him in the story stages that were available on his release and his damage output is incredible. To put it into perspective, despite his low combat effectiveness at the start of a fight in a story stage, he quickly catches up to N Sinclair and can even overtake him, with him as slot 1 and Sinclair as slot 2. With Telepole, though, he just rockets past N Sinclair (who only really has Doomsday Clock, and single-target EGOs just can’t really compare to AoE ones in terms of damage output). Honestly, I wouldn’t change anything about Sunshower Heath (I’d even go as far as to say that I disagree with at least your first two suggestions). Even uptie 4 giving him -10 SP on clash loss was pretty insignificant for me, and personally just feels like a crutch for the benefit of people who don’t really understand how to use him. I think people just don’t have the patience to actually try to learn how to use him, and I suppose I’d include you on this despite your attempt to portray Sunshower Heath positively. At least, I feel like you still don’t really “get” him. Sunshower Heath is great for human fights, since that’s where I actually learned how to use him. Or rather, sure, abno fights can make him easier to use, but it’s really not difficult to make him effective in human fights. He’s great for single stage fights, like in story, and this ties in with understanding how to make use of his SP loss mechanics. And understanding how to make use of his SP loss mechanics leads you to understand why he’s punished hard for hitting heads; because he’s super great once you get him low, as he can maintain a certain range of negative SP more consistently than N Sinclair can (through both his passive and clash wins balancing each other out; if you’re playing him right, you’d be using his S2 whenever you can to clear out his sinking count to stop him from corroding), who does eventually need a “cooldown” period to prevent himself from hitting -45 SP. This ability to remain a constant “low” SP level is what allows him to so quickly catch up with and compete with N Sinclair. I don’t think the confusing mechanics is a real con here, so much as a highlight for the low tolerance level of some people to even attempt to learn something. It only took me like 3 fights to understand how to use Sunshower Heath, yet there are still people to this day who can’t figure out how to keep N Sinclair’s SP low in MD. Literal skill issue. I think Sunshower Heath has a nice enough niche that doesn’t really need changing. However, with the game nerfing how high enemy health is and with the recent event having us face higher level enemies (meaning SP on kill, either by a character themself or by their allies), his utility and effectiveness respectively could get heavily impacted, though I’d need to test it out.

waiting on ut4 Ego efficiency list. Your style of editing and naration is prefect for any educational content for this silly game with community who cant read (I cant too), and your videos allow me to understand and choose what i need to build.

Bro really making the most banger content in all of limbus community

happy birthday today

This is pretty good content for a mobile gacha game. Looking forward to more informative videos in the future but don't burn yourself out

When he first dropped in game my first thought was "Lets go! Babysitting meta!" Embrace your inner helicopter parent to keep him from slipping and falling. He is "usable", a fun challenge for some an annoyance to others. So surround him with ego resources, hp/sp healers and spread out the umbrella of uselessness!

sunshower heathcliff is kinda op now due to the currect state of the game and how he is good in his canto for losing sanity easily

I'm late, but the second skill's coin 4 effect to burst Tremor is a cute touch, since the animation for this coin involves Heathcliff smashing in the umbrella he stabbed the enemy with (which is one of my favorite animations, along with Daring Decisions, Self-Destructing Purge, and Ironclad Retribution).

I could never wrap my head around using him, thought it was an uptie issue so I transferred the body sack refund into sunshower and still sucked at using him lol, I’ll give it another shot after this vid, oh yeah happy birthday 🎉

I wholeheartedly agree with the end thoughts. He's such a missed opportunity. It's the first EGO equipment ID in the game, which for those who have been playing since L Corp and Library of Ruina was a super hype prospect. And the fact that it was the second negative ID made it even more something to look forward to considering the insane table flipping potential that negative coins brought in N Sinclair. Those changes would definitely make me want to play him. In fact, I would Uptie IV him if they just fix the passive. I really want to like him.

Once again, another amazing video by you! There's just something about your voice that's really suited for making RU-vid vidoes, lol

Just started the game like 3 days ago and I got this dude while spinning lunacy. I like him a lot and plan to keep using him, but didn’t know how to effectively use him well enough. This honestly helped me with that issue and I’m happy for it. It is unfortunate that heads does ruin his damage by a lot, but I’m just living with it. It’s a great ID to me (Uptie 4 is nice do not ask me why I got this already)

He's just cool

Such a waste of an ID for the british man with a bat. Great video as usual and happy birthday!

I wish he was a better unit because his anims are so cool

I try to use him whenever I can and he is such a hard ID to manage but when the stars align boy does he feel so satisfying to use. He pairs well with AEDD too, the free protection + getting heals from being hit makes him tanky.

I like your funny words, magic man

I've loved him ever since the moment I laid my eyes on him, I love the way he looks, and the way he plays, and how unique he is. Thank you for making this very thorough guide about my beloved. I do wish he ended up having a unique corrosion, as they added the sanity tab around the time he released, but honestly I like the way he is, except for his kit having way too many tails hits.

I tend to use Sunshower Heath in my sinking teams because his added sinking on counter and S1 are both really useful for improving the sinking count on especially abnormalities. I've been really enjoying going full Sinking memes in MD2H lately, so he's a good addition to those, and is actually decent against the bull since he can take the one-coin attack pretty easily with his blunt resistance.

I know it not the point but I like the music you choose for I am a sucker for ultrakill

Back when he released, I did a solo MD run with Suncliff. I thought he was fun, but using him outside of that just felt meaningless. Doesn’t help that Rcliff is a monster. Honestly, playing him solo is my favorite way to play him.

Sunshower Heathclif is very honestly one of my favourite IDs but the way i play him is almost ALWAYS solo, for the sole fact that i actually encourage him to force corrode because yes Corrosion does eat up EGO resources like crazy but, EGO corrosion still in fact procs when there are no resources left. And since Sinking is a persistent debuff, if you stack enough sinking you could basically get a corrosion every other turn. Its a really fun solo ID that basically encourages you to go big or go home

I've felt the Wrath counter always being available and being a decent option to progress the fight, if Heath gets a heavy Wrath cost EGO that gives him some sort of utility and a massive minus coin corrosion this ID might come around. I do like how this game has a lot of interwoven synergies that can make some units and skills suddenly more useful. Hopefully we get more tools for the ID since it really is fun to use.

birthday 🎉

Another top notch vid! N Heath and now Sunshower... Shi Heath guide incoming? Speaking of the Shi, I'd be very interested in a guide on Poise, since I think it's a status effect that used to be laughed at, but now with UT4 might be good? I'm still on the fence about it, lul.

I almost quit the game because I had to hit hard pity to obtain this ID, lost my entire stash plus some cash, and hit ZERO 000 units, dupes or new, and did not even hit a single missing 00 I had at the time along the way. I eventually got some luck later on (I pulled the new Ryoshu egos each as single pulls during the paid daily pulls on different banners when it was live) and finally got over the shard hump and my team up and grinding in the mirror dungeons, now I have every ID and have 600+ boxes working towards grinding for future IDs, but I generally have an emotional attachment to this ID, for better or for worse because of it. I gratefully accept an in-depth video, because I will convert it into knowledge in how to make this ID work optimally where it can, because it was my first painful lesson in Limbus, even if self-inflicted. Happy Birthday!

The NClair tax: Every future minus coin IDs will have low skill power floor with 0 power ceiling because someone at project moon thought that a character with a skill that have, at worse case 30-18 roll and at best case 30+30+30 rolls was a good idea. I was contemplating a lot between Sunshower Heath vs N Heath, because for the purpose of fueling AEDD (awesome EGO btw) they're the same. I ended up uptie 4 both of them, but rarely used Sunshower because N Heath inherently have good synergies with other N Corp IDs.

Apologize.

He's a very special goodboy hat one has to cheris for him to start giving back. To regain trust is hard ;-; Every Heathcliff has something pure about them - their anger and hate flow from being hurt or rejected, honest to boot, with their heart on their sleeve. Ah, to wash this pain away!

Things I think you've missed: 1- Giving him 1st order priority GREATLY increases his, otherwise very slow and rigid start (at anything below 3 he becomes actively helpful only at turns *5* or later). It has pros and cons, since other dpt IDs won't get their 2nd slots as fast, but also gives Sunheath upportunity to ""combo"" his skills and counter, making him a bit more reliable in terms of sanity loss, tanking and damage. 2- It's very important to actively remember how many coins his clashing against, since the enemy can easily nuke his sanity with multiple hits. This basically makes him a "thinking man's ID" simply because if how much game knowledge, strategy, math and reading he wants to be optimal. Sometimes I found myself thinking about his passive sanity loss math whole *3* turns Into the future, to make sure my pierce fatal team won't get nuked. 3-He's... Basically useless in MD because all encounters won't last longer than 2~3 turns, on top of enemy lvl scaling will *always* leave him at +45 by the end of floor 3, unless you EGO Corrosion spam. So, some personal notes on how to make him a bit more effective (imo?): 1- Sunheath is always 1st in the team order. This allows him to take damage _and_ deal damage with his counter, on top of making his S3 appear faster *and* allow him to clash twice as fast. 2- Depending on your playstyle, sometimes it's actually better to *not* activate his passive early (turn 3+) since you can build up sinking and sinking count without worrying of it being lost every turn. => Sometimes it's better to not pick any envy IDs. I think you can guess why it's a potential problem.

Potential man has ruined me. I thought just getting him to max level and uptie 4 was enough. Now I realize also I need Pierre Ryoshu (and maybe chef Gregor), Ya sunyata for HP and Telepole for Charge. Even then, I need to reset for a charge item and a heal item to proc AEDD's Healing passive when hit and regular sustain healing. AND EVEN THEN, if I end up fighting Guido or his carpenters on floor 1 that's a reset. I think your solution is more reasonable and realistic, but to me he should just get the same SP loss than Nclair has (to your dismay) OR to gain Sinking potency with each coin loss even if he wins the clash. Because that's the thing, due to negative coins you can still land a hit on your last coin if the enemy rolls low enough and you get a lucky tails hit and win the clash, but if you lose the clash your sanity loss that turn might help you on your next turn but the turn after that if you won the previous clash you're garanteed to be either 15+ sanity and the Sinking you were originally trying to build up has been mostly lost. Gaining extra Sinking potency with lost coins gives you a more substantial sp drop on the same turn since after being hit you drop to a level that garantees a better attack on the same turn while preventing ending with a higher sanity that you started with after successful attacks. Of course that would mean that corrosion would be a more prevalent issue, but people doing solo runs would do so anyway and he would be more welcoming of Fausts Fluid Sack SP heal on being in teams as he can contribute more often into the fight. why am i trying so hard if no one is gonna read this lol

Ive been using him for a while at uptie 3 and can say hes very inconsistent... but he does work sometimes, and his uptie 4 seems very good for.helping with that, i havent gotten to play around with it yet but i definitely will and i feel he could be pretty crazy, plus hes got some of the sickest animations in the game

Very good summary. He is fun and i love his design. Sinclair's existence makes you question why S Heath runs with ankle weights, while Sinclair is free of them. Casual 30 rolls on s3 vs Heath's very conditioned s2, which still can't achieve s3 numbers. Or simply every positive sanity id is already better and they don't have all this problems, so why just not use them instead. About missed opportunity, i believe that S Heath could've been the first counter oriented id but ended up undercooked.

it's almost poetic how the community treats sunshower heathcliff

for me, the Umbrella will still be in the basket. it is beautiful look, complex id, but reward for understanding his work not enough. a old umbrella in the idea, an old umbrella in the end.

It's unfortunate that he got released right after Ninclair, not because of people comparing him but because PM was clearly afraid of the monster (Ninclair) they created so they made their second negative ID too weak. I'm a bit annoyed that they didn't adress his biggest issue in Uptie 4 which is keeping his SP low (S1 change was nice tho), instead they mainly buffed his S2 with another low SP condition when his entire problem is that he can never stay low SP. In fact often if you're forced to clash, you need his SP to be -35 at the very least or the the SP he gets from winning a clash actually ruins his damage. It was such a bizarre change

it technically wouldn’t fix his issues but i think changing the tremor burst on skill 2 to sinking deluge

His biggest flaw so far, is what he gains a ton of sp when enemies higher level when him are dying. Literally impossible to use on high floors of md, when his sp lost can't catch up

seeing the blown-up sinking icon always throws me off, because the little version looks like some kind of horned bull or something.

Mam this vid was great, but now I actually feel kinda bad about him being one of the few ID's I don't have 😢

"What I would change" part seems like T5 concept (tho I want to believe we will get 4th skill or something cool for it)

Thanks to this video i now realize the sinking symbol is supposed be a teary/melting eye. I thought it was a funny horned alien face before seeing it up close lol

One thing I find funny about the ID is that if you somehow manage to give him minimum 45 sinking and a lot of count, he corrodes every 2 turns, and on the non corroded turns, he has -45 sanity right away.

I like using him more on MHD, it feels like i can better control how will he loose S1 clashes, wish he had a way to reduce the clash/kill sanity gain like Ninclair instead. One of my favorite IDs, even if he is not as powerful as he could be.

IMO, his 4 colors and 2blunt+2pierce distribution should also be considered a pro because it makes him a unique case of ego fueling. I was already using him before they nerfed Canto 4 and implemented T4 and he was always my top or 2nd best damager until the boss fights (because the random fodder kill keep giving SP there) because he was really good at both AoE with pierce (Telepole as stated in this video is his best move) and AEDD that are both super easy to fuel thanks to his color synergy and how much he benefits from being the team ego user over the other characters who are way more costly. Really the three main things holding him back are 1) Rheath is really just bonker for short fights and MDs with an easy 10/10 score so Sunheath which is like an 8.5/10 just look awful despite being way better than most characters if played properly with huge damage score at the end. 2) He's not a simple character, probably hardest in the game atm. I streamed me using Fox heath in Canto 4 to the friends I play Limbus with to teach them what to do and they could not replicate it and failed with very calm and sane Sunheath. You have to know exactly from turn 2 if you can pull a turn 2 -30SP combo or if you have to go with a slow route instead with counter instead (way easier now thanks to the sp loss on fail clash buff). I will say he's the only character in the game atm that require knowing what you want to do 2 turns ahead nearly every turn and not just "Bodysack, next turn Suppression, do whatever until this pop again" type of planning that is pretty much how you can play 99% of the ids effectively atm. 3)He's a char you plan a team with around EGO usage in limited fight. This imo is where people fail the most because it is very common to just build a team with all the fatal attacks type 000 ids that have the best rolls and color synergy is rarely kept in mind. Often the most people do is plan around Fluid Sac usage for Faust. Sun Heath is actually up there as one of the strongest EGO users in term of damage with very easy to work with color distribution making it easy to avoid the starvation issue. Being a negative ID mean he is actually rewarded even more for spamming them. Unfortunately a lot of players seem to hate this team building aspect and consider it unfair that EGO is factored as part of ID strength.

Atleast he can solo toad

Hope that whenever PM decides to implement uptie 5, they will make sunshower better. My Favourite Identity in the game.

I think one day he will get buffed for sure, so I still get him

I think the best way to buff SunHeath is just to give him the same gimmick as SunDongbaek boss fight e.g. "if this skill clashing lose , lose X amount of SP". I know PM already added it to his sanity passive, kinda, but it's still slow to get him rolling.

Unintentional pun: A fox Kit :D

Now i understand why they call Him The Potential Man

ДА, ДААААААА Как же он чувствует. Лиситклиф это моя любимая личность на моего любимого грешника ( почти 500 часов в Лимбусе, немало из которых я наиграл именно с ним ). Я буквально сказал на моменте "что бы я изменил в Лиситклифе" слово в слово перед его словами "нужно 2 каунта на первом скилле". Как же он ЧУВСТВУЕТ.

UT4 Hobo-cliff with UT4 AEDD and a tank is so damn fun in abno MD2H. UT4 AEDD makes most human fights so ez as well

Someone please send this video to PM

Happy birthday. I wish this unit was good enough to warrant replacing Rabbit; i just dont understand, they even had uptie 4 to fix his issues. I think N Clair was too strong and they got afraid of giving us a 2nd one. I cant imagine having this guy run through MDH , anytime i lose a clash in there that unit usually suffers a lot of damage. Wanting to take damage but not having the health to back it up, wanting to be risk reward, but not having the coin power to back it up.

When he was announced, I was prob the most dumb person who waited for him. Mostly because I wanted him to be at the power level of the best umbrella wielder, Hatkid, and just slam every living creature with umbrella. Now I truly know that she is too strong, and Hatkid Wannabe Heath (yes, I am calling him like that, and I won't ever now call him sunshower.) qould have never been as strong. But I was dissapointed. My main concern is his counter. I think that it was his best way of losing sanity. Now we have clash lose, but still. Main problem is that he is too slow. Most of the time, he was THE SLOWEST in my teams. And he couldn't interfere enemy with his counter to get some sinking until he gets hit, while if this first enemy was going to hit him, any ally that was faster would interfere and won't allow my Heath to get Heath (get it? Cuz, like, Heath, and getting hit, but hut is similar to Heath? Which is his name???) I think that this guy is one of yhe funnies solo guys. He is the best at soloing things. Especially mirror dungeons. I won't try md2 hard cuz I haven't got all upgrades and threadspun his aedd, but I will one day. He is fun, but strange. Also, Hatkid solo

I am part of the small percentage of people who know how to use the Bri'ish Man Channeling The Power of Bri'ain. If you know what you're doing, he's a fun dude to play with. And if you're in MD2 and got the left most starlight, seeing him without fail roll all tails is YI SANG. I mean Ideal.

As for the changes to aforementioned passive I believe it should also gain 1 Pierce DMG UP. S3 should do a little more damage imo. I know it's hard to compare any ID to NCorp Sinclair, but higher roll of 21 base would make it more obvious that he can have his own numbers in ideal scenario.

Since Linton Gregor was released, I always use Greg as support with some protection supports and use suncliff in the Rupture team. Because his first skill is trash imo, and he has a decent amount of rupture count in skills. I really recommend using it

Great video! I love heath's EGOs a lot (specially telepole as im a telepole simp) so i decided to shard and uptie 4 suncliff when i saw the self-paralyze next turn on his counter, i even uptie 4'd him (like his non-base EGOs... im not ok) sadly, i dont really use him much because he is annoying to use on mirror dungeons and i already have Rabbitcliff, but i really would like to see him getting buffed! Now, since you already covered the only sinner with 2 charge-based EGO, why dont you cover Charge team comps next? Feels like a good topic to transition into after this video! Personally, i would really like to see Faust telepole buffed, as even charge comps dont...want her telepole ego, at all if im honest, since you are sacrificing fluid sac for it, and with it a Gloom EGO that not only is stronger, but allows you to benefit from higher gloom resonances. Also, Super hyped for the new ryoshu!, lets hope shes good! I live and breathe charge for it is my saviour,i work and toil for charge so that i can feel charged up the next time i go into the mirror dungeon mines so that i can get more charge so that i can work and toil for more charge at the mirror dungeon mines.

I noticed that while you talked about suncliff's sp loss on clash, you forgot to mention that losing clashes with s1 would make him lose at least 4 more sp from getting hit with sinking, resulting in a base sp loss of 18 rather than 14

It kinda weird that Ninclair are very easy to use with huge output while sunshower is hard to use with mid output. Kinda feel like they accidently switch it or something.

Honestly I'm still trying to use Sunshower Heathcliff, Mostly in a Sinking team for MD2, It's pretty annoying everytime he gets to high sanity so I have to Overclock AEDD(don't have Telepole) to reduce it. But he's my favourite Heathcliff because his animations are my favourite, His backstory is interesting albeit depressing and it's satisfying to see the max damages of Skill 2 & 3. Even when I got R Heathcliff instead of him in his banner I used his Shards to get him.

while i personally really love sunshower heathcliff (and i'm not saying you don't!), i really do agree with a lot of what you said. he could stand to feel just a bit more cohesive, to make him feel a little better. it really does suck to build down to -28 sanity and then win one (1) clash and go up to 15 sanity because i somehow managed to kill the enemy. (i think this only happens in human battles though lmao)

the thing is that i t4 him and really wanted to use it over rabbit but... is losing 2 turns of dmg worth over rabbit doin 2 turns of dmg? because he will never catch up unless would do 3 times what rabbit does after turn 3

this is kino as fuck, rare actually good gacha game creator, massive L that this game is going through its 9/11 (if you cant tell i love this video)