So about Toxic Animation Fandoms... 

Its hard To find a fandom that’s not toxic.

“This show literally killed itself so it’s successors could flourish” hilariously accurate summary of what went down behind the scenes

“The Crewniverse” is the name fans call the people who worked on the show, not the gems Steven lives with, they along with Steven are known as “The Crystal Gems”.

WAIT .... People...hate Steven Universe???????? The one cartoon that helped me accept the fact that I needed therapy and saver me from quarantine?????

Don't compare Velma's hate from "fans" from hate the other 2 get. Velma actually DESERVES the hate!

I have never understood the Steven Universe hate. Certain criticism sure, but the hate? I got into it around when season three was halfway or something, and would watch it as each episode came out, and it is hands down my favorite show. I recommend it to anyone and everyone who will let me talk to them for long enough. I realize that a lot of it is my personal taste and not objective quality, and you are talking about a girl whose top three favorite foods include yesterday's frozen pizza reheated in the microwave, but still

I agreed with many of your points, but it's very hard to appreciate the animation of Velma when the characters are so unlikable and the humor is so awful, and the fact that HBO/Warner brothers canceled so many animated projects and ongoing series.

the only fandom that i think is even slightly justified for being toxic is Scooby-Doo, because WOW is Velma BAD. i personally tend to find things i like in shows that people dont like, but Velma? damn, beyond the concept of a more mature Scooby-Doo, Velma is one of the worst cartoons/adult animations i've ever seen, and it's not the fault of the animators, or the voice actors, it's the fault of the creator of Velma and the writers who think that is good work they are doing.

I didn't even know that Steven universe was so controversial till after I finished the show, it's so emotionally complex and relatable for me and my friends, we all loved it. Especially the music, I unironically listen to it all the time.

Owl House was another show that was criticized a lot, most of them are about the "Filler" episodes of season 1, Gus and Willow not being used a lot in episodes, and Lumity, the Filler episode argument is the one I most didn't agree on as of course it's gonna have filler episodes, it's not gonna get serious off the bat I mean frick can't the characters just have fun without dealing with anything serious

My fav character was Lion. Did absolutely nothing when stuff wasn’t happening except eating and sleep and was adorable (not a complaint)

Great destruction of toxic internet tendencies. It genuinely passes me off how RU-vidrs who don't know shit about the animation industry make a buck harassing the people who make these shows just because they know it's easier appealing to people's desire to be enraged than actually having talent.

The community was divided between two extremes. The people who blindly followed the show religiously and would get personally offended if you said anything bad about it. And the people who hated every flaw they saw with it and couldn't enjoy the show after a certain point. This resulted in a lot of back and forth yelling.

I'm a bit of an isolationist who's starting to break out of her shell, but even I know that complaining about a picture of Rose Quartz being drawn on the internet to the point of looking slightly skinnier to the point of driving a child to suicide is not a constructive use of one's time.

Something that also affected the reception of Steven Universe was its horrendous release schedule. Constant hiatuses, no communication and batches of episodes were small, sometimes only 1 episode and the show went on a hiatus again.

Very nicely said

My first experience with toxic fandoms was when I was about seven, way back in the mid-90s. The original Star Wars trilogy had just been re-released on VHS and everyone was raving about it, especially on the playgrounds of schools across the country. Like many kids that age, I'd both watched and loved them, but the enjoyment was soured when I told my classmates that Return of the Jedi was my favourite. All of a sudden, I was a laughing stock by everyone else, who evidently had all agreed that Empire was the better choice. And that kind of "let's gang up on the one guy in the group who thinks different to the rest of us" is something I've unfortunately had to see (either done to others or be on the receiving end myself) in every other fandom I've been a part of 😟

I feel online communities tend to either OVERHYPE or just plain HATE something without having that nuanced discussion about what worked and didn't work. It happened with "Velma" and got so bad that people compared it to "Puss in Boots; The Last Wish" even though the two productions couldn't be any different other than being animated and one actually caring for the medium and the other just being trash. This leads to series and movies being so overhyped people hate it out of principle, or so overhated you wonder what was there that caused so much vitriol. The cartoon/animation community is notorious for this we we seemingly normalized having a hyperbolic mindset that accepts having toxic tendencies. You CAN call out a show's weaknesses and strengths without having to have wish death upon those that created it. It's like people forget that at the end of the day we are all just grown-ass adults fighting over cartoons. We should learn to hype responsibly and accept that not everyone will love or hate the same thing and THAT'S OK.

I love Steven Universe. I understand when people dislike it because it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I kind of grew up with it and it's nostalgic to me. It was really important to me and it still is. The soundtrack is BOMB, (Here Comes a Thought still makes me cry, I needed it so badly) and the themes of exploring mental health makes it one of the best cartoons I remember watching.

I've been a Steven Universe fan for far longer than you have, and I have witnessed all the toxicity of the fandom firsthand. What is it with fans of cartoons these days thinking they should only be what they want them to be at the expense of everything they are? I've mostly seen it with The Owl House, Amphibia, and Helluva Boss at the moment.

I knew some people hated steven universe but I thought it was generally liked??? Like omg I loved this show so damn much and the representation was amazing

A little lesson folks: be a fan of something but never ever join a fandom

The thumbnail implies that Velma has a fandom. I have never met a SINGLE PERSON of any age, race, religion, or anything on the internet that actually liked that show. It’s well animated and I’m all for that, and Norville, the show’s only saving grace of a character, is actually pretty cool when he isn’t saying he hates drugs. Everything else about the show is absolutely terrible though!

Velma was hot garbage, yet all the hate caused it to get a second season long before the second episode released Of course, not all of it, but the exposure these shows get from people hating on them is having a counterproductive effect. We live in a world where cancel culture is seen as profit

When you said "Now, About that Show Velma.." it gave me and add that searched up "epic Fail on RU-vid". That was perfect timing.

What makes it worse is this type of content doesnt just ruin whats good in the show it also ruins genuine critique about the show. No one will take you seriously if all any one hears is ppl shitting on the show for no good reason.

For steven universe I was annoyed by the finale season, hiatus’s, and some of its writing but I never really hated it. I guess a lot of people became frustrated with how it was handled

Really enjoy your content Toonstarterz and thank you for being the most down to earth and honest content creator in the Cartoon Community.

wait velma has a fandom?!

I wish the velma animators got to work on a better show

yess thank you! its so annoying when people treat cartoons like theyre the second coming of satan like calm down like dont we have jobs

You do know that "crewniverse" is the name of the team who worked on Steven Universe alongside Rebecca Sugar, while Garnet, Pearl, Amethyst, Steven are the "Crystal Gems".... right.

well i do like criticizing things because of one thing: discussion, i love talking about subjects like this and negativity isn't always bad. and sometimes i even enjoy arguing, it'll sound weird but it giving me primarily adrenaline, however when i talk badly about something I'm always trying to be as polite as possible (unless i think the show can cause actual harm, like su future). the most important thing about criticizing something is to acknowledge good parts (unless u don't see any), because it can show other future creators what is seen as bad or good, but i must admit, good things aren't always major and sometimes despite good animation or humor, show is just garbage. and answering ur question, who do you do that for. myself, I'm letting my emotions out, which is a good thing to do if u're not hurting anybody with this

Velma does have good animation, I won’t hate the animators I just hate the creators who made this

You perfectly summed it up Every series will have its faults The only difference now then let’s say 10 years ago is that people are more vocal about these faults because of things like social media And the more people point it out the more the series just seems negative When it’s not Peoples standards nowadays feel too high in my opinion To the point that if it’s not literally gold in writing and animation It’s classed as bad or even trash Plus most of these people haven’t even watched the series-they just want views

Steven Universe came out at around the same time that I started questioning my gender, sexuality, and my place in the world among other things. It really helped me learn how to accept myself for who I was and how to recognize when I needed to ask for help from others. I figured out pretty quickly that fusions were a metaphor/symbol for relationships/love being expressed in a relationship and it made me feel so much more comfortable and happy with the show once I figured that out. The fusions are not limited to characters who are romantically attached to each other, they also happen to show different kinds of love. When Steven and Greg fused in the movie, it was a show of familial love. When Ruby and Sapphire fuse, it's a show of romantic love. When Steven fused with himself after the White Diamond showdown, it was a show of self love. So on and so forth. But it also shows things like when relationships go bad or how it's normal for some people to just not want to be in a relationship while also expressing that the love is still there, even if it's not being expressed in the conventional way. Peridot, for example, has shown interest in fusion before (asking questions, running tests, etc.) but doesn't wish to be fused with anyone else. She has also shown her interest in romantic relationships (shipping charts and stuff) but she actively avoids becoming involved in anything like that. And it's perfectly fine! Nobody gets mad at Peridot for not wanting to fuse and instead they all respect her decision and let her express her care and love for others in her way. Lapis Lazuli and Jasper are the prime examples of a toxic/abusive/unhealthy relationship because neither of them actually cared for each other and instead had separate goals that directly opposed each other. Jasper wanted Lapis' strength in order to kill Steven, but Lapis wanted to have someone to take her anger out on. Who better than the gem that's actively trying to kill the kid who just freed her from her 1000 year imprisonment in the mirror? They both attached to each other because they both wanted to cause pain and suffering, but that is not what a relationship or a fusion should be based on. After Lapis and Jasper unfused and they went their separate ways, Lapis expressed that she never wanted to fuse with anyone ever again because of how badly things went with Jasper. At first, she even refused to develop any sort of connection to anyone other than Steven. Lapis was aggressive towards everyone who wasn't Steven because she was afraid of what would happen if she got attached again. At the end of the story though, Lapis is now friends with the other Crystal Gems and she has been learning from them that it's okay to love and trust others who have earned it from you. There's so much more that I could go on about but I'm sick and I'm running g out of brain cells. The point I'm trying to make is that the entire show, every single character present, every theme, every episode, the very essence of the cartoon Steven Universe is healing. Healing wounds, physical and mental. Healing relationships. Healing past traumas and misconceptions. Healing from mistakes, both your own and others. The very soul of the show is healing in every sense of the word.

maybe if fandoms didn't exist we wouldn't have this problem,cause when I was a kid there was no such thing as a fandom,all I had to do was sit on my ass and watch my favorite shows and talk about them with my friends

Bro, nobody complains about the animation on Velma... They complained about the story and their god awful jokes AND DON'T EVEN SAY I DIDN'T GIVE IT A CHANCE I tried to watch it and I couldn't sit through the first episode...

But Velma is hate-baiting. So, you can't fault the fandoms to shit on everything about Velma even if those criticisms are unwarranted. The animation is decent and stood out for an adult animation, but it's not amazing enough that it's gonna change people's opinion about it. When it's blended with very shit writings and directions, everybody will crap on it as well. It's like the cheerleader and fratboy effect in Gumball when the characters surround themselves with pretty people, they all look pretty. Surround the animation with ugly shitty everything else, the animation looks ugly.

The Velma show plotline, forced integration thrown into the marketing (honestly I get cynical when the marketing prioritizes diversity because it is way too often hot air and clout chasing), and jokes are groan worthy but I had the same idea about the animation being not bad. Like, the show is bad, but the animation would be a big refresh if there wasn't so much other stuff to suffer through. For Steven Universe, you didn't know Garnet was a couple of non-binary lesbians (or at least the closest they could get at the time by making them technically rocks with she/her and they/them pronouns and just that being their whole species) until like 50 episodes in. But the further along they got the more the show managed to cover new, very important topics and even troll the censoring squads in other parts of the world with Ruby in a dress and Sapphire in a suit. All while never once announcing it as the main idea of the show, because the main ideas if the show were overcoming trauma and a deconstruction of love and loss, as well as growing up. That and learning that someone you build yourself around wasn't a great person until near the end of their life, and that leaving a place of abuse still has an aftermath on new people they meet and even those after they pass away.

At last, someone who recognizes Steven Universe's flaws but still loves it anyway!

I think a lot of the hate on Steven universe comes from those of us who watched it from the beginning. We were so excited and loved the show and loved everything that it was building up for, we were very emotionally invested and were not knowing what to expect. And one thing that the show did a really great job of is making us really hate diamonds. That’s why a lot of us did not like the redemption arc. Because they made literal space Nazis and then told everyone that they have to forgive them. Then you re-watch the show and see them only ever punish people who have been abused in a striking out because they have been hurt but only ever forgive people who just spout hateful rhetoric. That’s where I think a lot of the justified hatred for the show comes from. It’s not the show isn’t good, it’s that it is so good and yet it has underlying themes of forgiving genocidal Nazis and people who are bigots and giving them a second chance instead of giving those who need a second chance. It’s like getting a beautiful and delicious dessert, and it taste great but then having an awful aftertaste that makes you violently ill later.

Wait....Velma had a fanbase?!

Barely 4 minutes into the video and I just got hit with “ a lovely assortment of weirdos that I would wanna befriend and/or get railed by “ and for some reason I truly felt that

Honestly, am still a fan of steven universe today. I'm a fan of a lot of things with 'toxic fandoms' as people would say (every fandom has toxic people. Some are just louder or well known than others). I mostly remove myself from toxic fandoms without removing myself from the show/game/book/etc itself. Honestly have never been happier enjoying these things than now.

To be fair what exasperated the situation with the show is that hiatuses and the week-long bomb to make with for TEEN TITAN GO!multiple marathon during the time period, and it also happen to other new series at the time like REGULAR SHOW and ADVENTURE TIME.

Tbh I was surprised that Velma even had a fandom

I am actually very surprised that there is a lot of people who didn’t like Steven universe usually the people I’ve been around literally worship the show personally I kind of dislike the show but instead.. it’s kind of for personal reasons that obviously isn’t intended to be related to, But the reason why I don’t really like the show, is because at least for me I get bored really quickly like I’m only able to watch like two episodes of the series until my brain literally just dries into itself I thought it was just kid me being biased but even watching the series while I’m older it’s still just painfully boring to me. This is where I give out a bit of criticism for this video. wanted to add just because of Velma has good animating doesn’t automatically mean that it’s a good show I’ve watched many cartoons that have astonishing animation yet Hot garbage writing.. good animation doesn’t efficient if a show is good or not:/ also the thing that you added where you feel like some people like to review in an echo room (basically meaning that they don’t want their opinions to be contradicted) kind of contradicts your own claims because you refuse to actually show face value to why these opinions pop up in the first place which kind of gives off a bit of biased energy. also I can tell that you don’t actually watch the reviews you just assume that they’re being ignorant so I watched some of the “ignorant” reviews that you showed in your video and they actually give a good reasons why they don’t like the show.

We live in a world where as soon as someone feminine is Introduced into a show Let's just say that every single living thing in the show and the character go through some messed up stuff

I think what contributed to the growing hate toward SU was the fact that it went on hiatus' for weeks/months at a time only to come back for 3-4 episodes to drop either a filler Towne episode or a controversial episode (Pink Diamond reveal) and leave us hanging for another few months. I suspect the time spent away from the show gave people a bit too much time to think.

Dude this video made me subscribe so damn fast Somebody finally talking with a pretty great amount of sense

The only thing you have to understand for Steven universe is that there were two studios working on episodes at once, so you can understand why the models were a bit off at times

As someone that has not seen steven universe but seen countless shows that get praised while running but then when they end bad get dumped on and all its pros forgotten. The ending is the most crucial part. You end bad or mid thats all you get remembered for. Lost had a spectacular first season for example and season 2 & 3 had some stellar stuff. But it ended in manys eyes unsatisfactory and now its just dogged on for rest of its life. Game of thrones (i havent seen) suffered same. it ended so bad it just lost the entire water cooler talk it had. i dont even wanna start it cause of how bad it ends. Before i watched the sopranos, all i knew about was its infamous ending. everything else it accomplished mostly got buried in the cultural zeitgeist. Ending is the most vital.

you disserve more views keep on going bro

Personally, I never really vibed with Steven Universe, more because it's not my thing. I just didn't really like its aesthetic, and it just wasn't really for me. So yeah, I'm fine with people who like it, just not for me. As for Velma, I despise that steaming pile of unfunny garbage, but I will give it credit that the animation is actually alright. If it was for a show that was actually good, I wouldn't mind it. But yeah, I have watched multiple clips of Velma, and the comedy was so bad that it actually made me physically sick. Not even joking. Cool video, bro.

Finally someone who actually likes the show I’ve been waiting for this for years thank you I am subscribing right now

fr people just want to be angry and make other people hear their anger because it makes them feel better

I love Steven Universe, it didn't end on a really good note but at least it didn't end with the main character commiting literal genocide with multiple species. And the soundtrack is undeniably one of CN's best. Man I love the Diamonds' individual themes/chimes, they give me chills.

I already know Steven universe fans are gonna be so pissed when you referred to the main 4 as the “Crewniverse”. Btw the people who animated the show are referred to as the crewniverse now them

People can shit on SU all they want, it changed my life. Someone in the comments said cartoons can't change your life and that just isn't true. I grew up with the show and it shows so much empathy and love, even I the plotholes and some filler and whatever, I didn't care. The music is beautiful, the art is gorgeous, and I needed a lot of the lessons taught. Could it have been better? Yes. Did all of Steven Universe, including future, help me drastically in life especially in 2020? YES

Thank you for this. My friend thinks that su is a bad show just because on Twitter ppl hate it so much. SU is my life, it helped me so, so much and is still helping. I would reccomend this show to anyone ❤

No. I'm sorry but no there is nothing about Velma, outside of the animation during the hallucination scenes, that is good.

YESS THE SONGS IN STEVEN UNIVERSE IS SO GOOD! “Stronger than you” and “Here comes a thought” are my absolute favourites!

im a huge fan of steven universe and some of the smaller issues never bothered me. the ending of the show is arguably one of the most important parts of a show i mean when you look back on it you remember mostly the finale. the last chunk of episodes hurt so bad because of how terrible they were in contrast to how fantastic almost everything else was. point is i love the show but the issues are totally valid and hurt my enjoyment of the show quite a bit.

Fandoms dedicated to hating something are called hatebases, just so you know. Get it? Because the fandom means “fan”.

I think SMG4 has a way of dealing with the toxic side of his fanbase and it's shown in his new movie "It's Gotta Be Perfect". It shows off what he's thinking and feeling and has heavy psychological horror elements mirroring "Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem". He's teaching empathy by instilling his own fear into others. The weird thing is I thought *I* was the only one with this idea, I once said "I'll freeze their hearts with terror and feast on their screams" I'll probably still do it. (I swear I have a lighter side.) Please watch the short film and tell me what you think. Have I missed something? Let me know.

Just finished my annual S.U rewatch and couldn't agree more with this video!

ASH DID IT HES A POKÉMON MASTER NOW LAST EP I CRYED

Steven Universe is one of my favorite shows of all time. I watched it when it came out 10 years ago and I'm glad I did.

I do admit that I can be passionate about some shows, however, I totally agree that if someone does not like my show that's all okay. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, however that does not give you the right to call it garbage or me garbage for liking it. Honestly, I just do not get why lots of people have to bash things these days.

it’s reasons like these why I hate the internet

FINALLY,,, a take I can actually agree with.. I Can accept that the show does have it’s flaws, but when it came to writing it was like fighting tooth and nail so Steven universe wasn’t allowed to have the ending it wanted due to being canceled and given a short amount of episodes to wrap up the story. I know it’s not the satisfying ending we all wished it would be, but maybe things would have been different if Rebecca could actually write the ending she probably intended.

Off model designs were intentional for steven universe, meant to give the animators more freedom, creative liberties, and input into how the show looks, no body complains about this with ok-ko or any other that does that as well.

Similar thing happens with game fandoms (eg splatoon) where we all get so caught up in trashing the game and then forget it's actually amazing and there's a reason we're still playing

the reason people think it’s rushed bc cartoon network cancelled it early the homeworld part where steven was among the diamonds was supposed to be a whole season

i could care less about toxicity online usually, but i must admit that Velma overall is terrible, its got ups but it's mostly downs.

I'm so happy that SU is starting to get the recognition it deserves (imo)

Steven Universe was always great for me, but i dunno, i guess i'm 35 years old now, and the people that hated it were probably teenagers or something, because kids and adults that watched it sung nothing but praise for it in my experience. I did hear about the toxic fandom it had, but my friends and everyone i knew that watched it just loved it.

How dare you mention steven universe with Velma at the same time

It's so refreshing to meet someone who sees things through the same lens as I do. As in, acknowledges the flaws of a show but also moves past them and values the good things more. People really should be more.. idk, optimistic in their approach to life, it saddens me to see how many folks are filled with vitriol and are ready to mercilessly thrash everything they don't like. Hey, chill out maybe? There is no such thing as a perfect show/album/book etc, because a) it is all purely subjective, b) perfection is something to strive for, but also something that should never be achieved, for if it were achieved once, other creators simply wouldn't be able to compete with it and we would not get any more content. (sorry for mangled grammar, it's 6 a.m. and I'm hungover) As for the unsubstantuated hatred towards an undeniable masterpiece, I, as a long-time hardcore Homestuck fan, shall bring up exactly this thing, Homestuck. It's a long-ass (about 8.000 pages, if I recall correctly) webcomic with one of, if not the most complex, complicated and mind-blowing plots of all time, with about a hundred characters which of whom has a clear purpose for the plot, and many of whom have compelling stories and character arcs. Of course, if you take something as complex as this, it would never escape its fair share of controversy. Is this character handled well or badly, was this subplot necessary or not, oh no, I expected this character to do that instead of this, oh no my OTP is ruined etc. Keep in mind, Homestuck fandom would never be so infamous among the Internet for its toxicity if it wasn't comprised of stupid spiteful teenagers, and stupid spiteful teenagers are rarely able to accept and understand a piece of art as a whole, to really analyze what they read and move past the percieved flaws. So yeah. There was a shit ton of toxicity, heated debates, hatred and haters, death threats from one middle-schooler to another etc. It was only natural that, when other people on the Internet looked at this shitshow, they were quickly to judge and criticize the comic itself even though they had never read it. Yes, Homestuck is not perfect, it's far from it, because no thing this complex can be perfect; it's like a gemstone - the bigger it is, the more flaws it will unavoidably have. But it is nonetheless a ground-breaking (nay, medium-breaking) multi-faceted masterpiece with hundreds of layers, and it takes years of re-reading and analyzing just to get a gist of it. And understanding how genius it is despite its many flaws, learning to look *past* them is what made it possible for me to see other pieces of art in the way I do, appreciating them and accepting them as a whole. Webcomics such as Tragedy of Fortuna or 17776, shows like Steven Universe or Infinity Train, visual novels such as Ace Attorney are ground-breaking in their own ways, they bring up moral and philosophic questions, they make you think and re-value things in your life and how you look at it, and this alone should be enough to forgive them some underexecuted character arcs here and there.

I really loved steven universe and legend of korra, but i hate Velma, i would rather watch a show that doesn't look down on me for waatching it.

6:13 *overstated Don't worry. All the great RU-vidrs get that wrong. Hello Future Me did it twice in one video.

It's funny that you just watched the show, cause I also just checked it out very recently, just this month actually! It's honestly a really good show! It has a few flaws but like... literally no series is perfect imo. I love Peridot. She's best character. Second best is Pearl

I just hope new generations don't feel ashamed to watch this show and talk about it in these times, they have all my support and it would great if they hold the show dearly as much I did back before; learning about emotions and mental health, being the actually main part of the history you don't know how cool is that for me!, basically Steven universe said to me ligma ❤😁

this dude just spoke everything i ever wanted to hear. YUHHHHH

I’ve loved steven universe so much as a kid I’ve sometimes said to myself it’s in the big three of cartoons network shows alongside regular show and adventure time after I watched the entire show people say it has problems such as that some characters don’t deserve an immediate redemption or it was rushed but I have accepted that’s what other people think and I do think it has some flaws but it is what it is

the Velma show have a fandom?

bro out of all the unnecessarily hated shows that you could have picked to prove your point you chose Velma....but at least you admit you did it for clickbait PSA: DON'T make defending cartoons and anime your whole personality.

So, I thought the "hate" for Steven Universe came from a mix of the dislike for its fanbase, the ending to the original series, and the Future continuation. Never heard of the universal hate you mentioned because most I've seen talk about it seemed to like the series outside of those things. This is coming from a dude who's seen a handful of the show tops, so take my words with a grain of salt. Just wanted to mention it because my nosy ass watches videos on these "bad" shows often, and it usually ends up being mere aspects of them that the Fandom rightfully dislikes that certain people use to shit on the show entirely. It's like a youtuber making a video about how one episode screws up and someone in the comments going "yeah I never liked this show it sucks and if you like it you suck".

It is shocking and little sad of the fair amount of cartoon or animation youtuber analysis i’ve watchd. Yours is one of the first time i’ve seen someone bring up the animation bible that is richard williams animator survival guide. and even more to hear some of the principles mentioned.

Since you haven’t done a star versus the forces of evil video yet, can you at least talk about/recap total drama?

velma pissed everyone off cause they put so much effort into a horrible show right after giving up on so many fantastically better shows. its terrible and unfunny but mostly its worse than shows that the studios are crapping on. plus its a trend to hate it. its still awful tho so i see no point in defending whats good about it especially cause of how minimal the good content it has is.

I HATED THAT VELMA SHOW!!!!!!!

Very solid advice about switching to data

9:17 Content creators make those video essays picking apart shows of movies for the $$$ (they don't care about the actual content). Hate is a very powerful emotion and getting people riled up and angry is a proven strategy for getting those views and actually getting a viewer to sit through an entire video essay (viewer retention) even if it's a form of media the viewer has no interest in. Not saying it's right, but it works very well and worked historically. It's the same tactic politicians use, news channels use, leaders use to wage war- find an "enemy" and manufacture outrage to get what you want.

I think the last recent series that's been perfect to me was Amphibia. Despite not getting the tie in movie treatment it was a really solid series.

Man, I used to watch Steven universe as a kid, and I just watched a whole series again. it was the same

I love Steven Universe but I would also like to pretend that Steven Universe future didnt exist

I watched steven universe when future was ending, honestly it is a good show, the off models dont really bother me, maybe if they were of model in the same episode it would but i dont remember that, as for the rushed ending and story arcs, yeah but thats whats happening to owl house now and nobody seems bothered, the one thing that people dont really understand is, diamonds never redeemed themselfs, steven changed their mind but they never actually redeemed themselfs, show even goes out of its way to show reactions of other characters seeing diamonds, theyre stevens last choice when hes having trouble in future, when they appear at the finale of future, noone is happy, they think its going to be more problems, as far as ive seen their mind was changed, white accepted she isnt perfect, blue accepted pinks loss and yellow accepted that shes got tired of everything, they were never redeemed, they just tried to fix things because of steven, the only remainder of pink they had. If they were redeemed they would appear more in fuute and most of the characters would be happy to see them, thats not the case.

Because it did and we were once friends with it.