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So How Many Ancient T-54s Does Russia Still Have? 

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@CovertCabal
@CovertCabal Год назад
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@arturoBbrito
@arturoBbrito Год назад
Is their technology that can remotely control the old tanks, so it can be used as distraction from a main attack?
@ingamgoduka57
@ingamgoduka57 Год назад
As much everyone doesn't want to admit or spread fear Russia is winning this as they take Bakhmut Ukraine has to prepare for defense of Kiev again lets hope the ghost of Kiev will defend again cause the Luck of logistics is not going to be same. Or Russia will Target Odessa will if they take it Ukraine will land locked that will spell bad news for Moldova which masses already pro Russian.
@darrena2625
@darrena2625 Год назад
Even the Russian state-sponsored TV are kinda taking the mick out of them. Speaks volumes.
@rexanguis214
@rexanguis214 Год назад
I bet they have a few thousand laying around…..even adjusted for inflation they can sell well under 100,000$……javelin missiles cost more……really good idea really…..hope they swing down and pay the pope a visit
@matrixfull
@matrixfull Год назад
is it possible they are gonna use those tanks to do first part of training for new crew so that they can use their training tanks for less time for final stages of training? also is it possible that they are just tranporting those tanks to scrap for metal and use raw metal for new modern tanks?
@randomuser5443
@randomuser5443 Год назад
There goes my dreams of buying a cheap tank
@trollmastermike52845
@trollmastermike52845 Год назад
Might as well fork over the cash for an export abrams
@saledin-wd2gj
@saledin-wd2gj Год назад
Are you sure? More like your dreams come true, if you look at another perspective
@shivanshna7618
@shivanshna7618 Год назад
Now how will I defend my house against burglary 😢
@syjiang
@syjiang Год назад
Um. Given how corrupt their army is. Your chances of buying a tank on blackmarket is much higher. Really hope Western intelligence are actively buying stuff from Russian black market to corrode their army and supply the Ukrainians.
@alf3071
@alf3071 Год назад
just go ask an ukrainian farmer for one
@loupgarou-dj3tm
@loupgarou-dj3tm Год назад
My bet, based on nothing, is that they'll send the T55's in without upgrading them and use them as artillery until they've used up their stock of rusty old ammo for the main guns. Just a temporary stopgap while they throw more money at trying to produce more modern ammo.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy Год назад
That would be a perfectly sensible use of these old tanks, which have been kept in storage in the first place for such a purpose.
@defective6811
@defective6811 Год назад
If these end up in Ukraine, my thinking is that these will be set up for defense in depth in preparation for upcoming Ukrainian offensives. You can pre-sight them to approaches around strategic positions. They'd be near useless against hard armor, but even HE rounds will give an IFV a pause, and they're more than sufficient to take out soft skin vehicles and approaching infantry. They're also less of a big deal to lose, thus making more sense why you might want to cluster them around areas you expect you might lose. In that capacity, you can also still use them as indirect fire support, which you can also pre-sight on pre-set paths of travel that you can encourage with use of minefields. This is what makes the most intelligent use of these, and if that is correct, then these indicate that Russia is preparing to try to mitigate losing ground.
@halilkunge9295
@halilkunge9295 Год назад
@@defective6811 they are not a big deal to lose but the crew is...
@MrWolfstar8
@MrWolfstar8 Год назад
The tank’s role is mostly artillery in Ukraine. T55 just as useful as the next tank in that role. What’s really needed is lightweight truck artillery. Setup, fire a few drone guided rounds and move. The cheaper the better.
@jameswysocki6806
@jameswysocki6806 Год назад
I saw somewhere that Iran has literal tons of 100mm HE shells that they are "donating" to Russia, which I think would support the indirect fire theory. I also saw a video on the current condition of the "modern" Russian artillery being in dire need of rebarreling, so the T55/54 for indirect the fire could take the load off while the existing artillery is serviced.
@mixererunio1757
@mixererunio1757 Год назад
That 4th-crew-member issue and the fact that they are just absurdly old tasks make me agree with Ryan McBeth that they'll probably just use them as SPGs
@culterwaleddy
@culterwaleddy Год назад
That was the intention for the T62s, that were sent to Ukraine, but they've since been used as front line tanks.
@freemanreed5228
@freemanreed5228 Год назад
Ruskies not that smart! Maybe they will de mine an area for the main assault by the Russians. That's more likely. You don't have to train anybody that way.
@recoil53
@recoil53 Год назад
The 1st Guards Tank Army has been spotted with T-62s. That is supposed to be their premiere, elite, front line unit.
@quinnjackson9252
@quinnjackson9252 Год назад
I honestly don't know about that. Is it logical? in the event of a Ukrainian breakthrough, they would be sitting ducks. They have bad optics, modern tanks would see them well in advance. They have terrible gun stability, making it hard to actually hit their target. And, they have weak and outdated cannons, which should be made irrelevant by half decent composite armor and ERA. Not to mention the T-54's abysmal reverse speed, making it next to impossible to retreat, especially when faced with a nimble enemy. More of an embarrassment than anything.
@freemanreed5228
@freemanreed5228 Год назад
@@quinnjackson9252 What about the artillery dispersed anti-tank mines? Did a lot of damage at Vuledar. I hope the Ukrainians have a stock pile of those.
@Crodmog83
@Crodmog83 Год назад
Mad respect for all the work you put into this video.
@berardoferrari
@berardoferrari Год назад
shill for ukraine and US and NATO ! LOL!!! notice how he never shows ukraine casualties, ukraine has lost 6000 tanks to the russians.
@fanta4897
@fanta4897 Год назад
A tiny correction: apparently the T-34s that Russia has are mostly post-war ones made in Czechoslovakia. When they wanted them for parades, they found out that they don't have enough and bought a bunch of them from Vietnam which got them from Czechoslovakia. Other than that, wouldn't Russia still have some IS tanks before they'd need to go for T-34?
@tatem2733
@tatem2733 Год назад
Probably T-10's instead of IS's
@emperorfancypants2512
@emperorfancypants2512 Год назад
Those old heavy tanks could barely go 300km without a serious breakdown when they were brand new.. they will barely make it off the train
@fanta4897
@fanta4897 Год назад
@@emperorfancypants2512 Considering current pace of russian advances are something like 100 meters a day, then 300 km is more than enough.
@emperorfancypants2512
@emperorfancypants2512 Год назад
@@fanta4897 you really think you can start the engine every day and it just working? When you need it most it wont work, believe me
@fanta4897
@fanta4897 Год назад
@@emperorfancypants2512 Yeah I know. I'm not stupid. And neither are Russians (at least not that stupid). I'm pretty sure that if they do pull them out of the scrapyard, or wherever they store them, they will at least get it up to working order.
@bodstrup
@bodstrup Год назад
They may be less that optimal for use against modern tanks - but could still be highly useful as fire support for trenches, especially if protected by earth berms and facing the flanks of an attack. A 100mm HE round - while old, can still cause considerable pain if you are hit.
@captnmaico6776
@captnmaico6776 Год назад
As always a tank is better than no tank.
@GerManBearPig
@GerManBearPig Год назад
95% of all vehicles in ukraine arent tanks and can easily be disabled with much smaller guns So I find the discussion about tank calibers klinda pointless because most tank kills are done by drones, artillery, RPGs or ATGM or even IFVs with autocannons that disable those tanks
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
More Russian tanks means bad news for Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t really have modern tanks in huge numbers. So even older tanks are a big threat to their infantry.
@jordanazevedo5688
@jordanazevedo5688 Год назад
@@realnapster1522 this was the comment I was looking for. As this war has always been a numbers game. If Ukraine has one MBT against 20 T-54/55 it doesn’t matter what the MM is. A stationary tank is a dead tank.
@bluemarlin8138
@bluemarlin8138 Год назад
@@jordanazevedo5688 Actually, one modern Abrams, Leopard II, or Challenger II could probably take out most of those 20 T-55s all by itself if it is well-handled. The modern MBT could start taking them out over a mile away, and they couldn’t return the favor until they were literally right next to it, unless they managed a rear shot or a close-range shot to the side (both of which are unlikely). And then there’s the fact that Ukrainian infantry could and would be taking out those T-55s with just an original-flavor RPG. Even some WWII HEAT rounds could take those things out.
@Chopstorm.
@Chopstorm. Год назад
If I remember correctly, not all T-54s had the evacuators.
@MaxCroat
@MaxCroat Год назад
I believe the bore evacuator was added later on as a modification. In fact, even in this video you can see in some of the pictures the tanks that don't have it.
@biro9328
@biro9328 Год назад
@@MaxCroat the only reliable way to differentiate between T55 and T54 is the ventilation mushrum on the turret (T55 is CBRN rated and they removed that vent to make it sealable )
@MaxCroat
@MaxCroat Год назад
@@biro9328 i never said that the bore evacuator is a way to distinguish them, but yes as was said in the video that is the only difference between them, all the other modifications were put om both tanks
@GlenCychosz
@GlenCychosz Год назад
M55S tank has a 105mm L7 gun.
@florianN132
@florianN132 Год назад
Yep, and that makes a HUGE difference compared to the russian ones with their original latest spec guns.
@denismilic1878
@denismilic1878 Год назад
And modern electronics, optics, a new motor, and upgraded armor. Slovenians kept theirs in perfect condition.
@CrocodileCe
@CrocodileCe Год назад
slovenia transferred all its shells for the m55, but it did not have modern shells for it, there is simply no other equipment using the L7 in ukraine to use them for these m55, although it is possible that they were given modern L7 shells additionally, although this was not announced
@kuunoooo7293
@kuunoooo7293 Год назад
​@@denismilic1878 nah, it isnt much better than a regular t55, it has no thermals, an old gun wich cant fire a he round and it doesnt have any composite armour. But still those would be better than plain t55's
@EngelDerVerdammnis
@EngelDerVerdammnis Год назад
@@CrocodileCe Leopard 1 which is said to be delivered to Ukraine soon has a L7 too. Also the gun been widely used across Nato and some other countries before Rheinmetalls 120mm replaced it. There should be some ammunition leftovers and production capabilities for fairly modern shells. Also Leo1 and M55S are likely only used as borderguard near Belarus and Belgorod region not needing shells as much as frontline used tanks.
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 Год назад
At the beginning of the war this situation would've been unimaginable
@nicknick9081
@nicknick9081 Год назад
Yeah, if you weren’t paying attention. The rest of us saw this happening during the Maidan coup.
@gingerlicious3500
@gingerlicious3500 Год назад
​@@nicknick9081 Cry about it.
@stardestroyer5161
@stardestroyer5161 Год назад
@@nicknick9081 don’t be stupid
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 Год назад
@@nicknick9081 "coup" ruzzian fascist detected
@adamhall5298
@adamhall5298 Год назад
@@nicknick9081 revolution* Go outside, touch some grass, and talk to Ukrainians.
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko Год назад
You mentioned their use as artillery which might be possible as reportedly (as if anything can be believed on the internet) the barrels on their normal artillery is wearing out and they're using these T-54/55 tanks as a stopgap as the barrels get replaced on their primary artillery. I find it shocking that Russia doesn't have some sort of rotation going to keep some artillery in the field and some being maintained/refurbished but given the problem Russia has been having with logistics, maybe it shouldn't be too surprising at this point.
@justindyer8911
@justindyer8911 Год назад
Russia has thousands of artillery pieces in storage according to the Military Balance 2022, the very fact that barrels are wearing out on the frontline speaks to the horrendous state of Russian logistics. They literally just need to send replacement guns to the front and send the worn-out ones back, and yet this has not been happening on the scale required to sustain this volume of artillery fire.
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko Год назад
@@justindyer8911 I guess it depends on the caliber and range of the artillery pieces in storage. If they're older types with shorter range than what is being used now, then it might not be practical to take the old artillery out of storage if it'll get destroyed by longer range counter battery fire from Ukraine. That's just speculation on my part as I don't know the types and numbers the Russians have in storage. Given Russia is the epitome of using the "King of Battle" (artillery), the idea of them running low on artillery is even more amazing than their apparent shortage of functioning tanks on the front line. It wasn't long ago there was a report of them getting millions of artillery rounds from N. Korea. The U.S. has been emptying its artillery stockpiles as well to aid Ukraine but the arsenals that make the shells are running overtime to restock. Not sure if Russia has the capability to restock quickly enough to meet their battlefield needs. Be it corruption, incompetence or some combination of both, Russias logistics is losing them this conflict... or even if they "win", it'll cost way more than it should've. This will go down as a pyrrhic victory.
@simokoistinen276
@simokoistinen276 Год назад
It is also a way to conserve 122mm and 152 mm artillery rounds and build up some stocks since these don't use those shells.
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 Год назад
Both sides use tanks as artillery. It is even said that tanks have better accuracy in this role.
@harmless6813
@harmless6813 Год назад
Remember, this war was supposed to last a few weeks at most. So of course they didn't make any long term plans ...
@Bendejo301
@Bendejo301 Год назад
Another identification characteristic between the T-54/55 is on top of the turret. If it has that "mushroom cap" (ventilation port cover) just forward of the TC hatch, it's a 54. The 55 deleted it in order to make it more "survivable" for the crew in an NBC environment. I've heard rumors passed about that it could be popped off to allow a snorkel for fording shallow bodies of water but I've never seen any evidence to substantiate it
@utube321piotr
@utube321piotr Год назад
Polish army tankers share that the 100mm gun in those tanks is rifled and precise when stationary and those tanks will be used at defense fortifications.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Год назад
Not rusted? Probably enough for indirect fire. EDIT: I should qualify that they would be used only to patch some parts of the front, while they re-barrel their actual artillery) Also Russia theoretically have some T-10's (so IS-10). I wonder if it is true. EDIT: And 100 mm projectiles are in bigger stocks than "odd" 115 mm. Whether they are of good enough quality is a different matter, but Iran still produces them. And many other countries that more or less silently support Russia.
@ryanlabarbera2510
@ryanlabarbera2510 Год назад
I doubt Russia would find anything more than 20 tanks from all IS variants that would still technically work
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Год назад
"EDIT: And 100 mm projectiles are in bigger stocks than "odd" 115 mm." How do you know? They haven't manufactured them for 40 years...and they've been selling them off in the 90's and 2000's to anyone who would take them. Huge amounts have gone to Syria since 2012 as well.... The T-54/55's gun is also not the same as the T-12/MT-12 Anti tank guns...thats a smoothbore, the T54/55's is rifled. Totally different ammo. Plus MT-12 has remained in service...unlike the tank.
@Alemikkola
@Alemikkola Год назад
Using tanks ripped from museum for "indirect fire" tells nicely how the "special" military operation is going for the ruskies.
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Год назад
@@Alemikkola Yup
@jannegrey593
@jannegrey593 Год назад
@@ryanlabarbera2510 I also doubt they would work. I only remember that they were mentioned pre-2022 as being in deep reserve - up to 100 of them. More of a joke really.
@LuckyRubb3rDucky
@LuckyRubb3rDucky 5 месяцев назад
You go above and beyond researching for your videos. Thank you for great content
@JingleJangle256
@JingleJangle256 Год назад
My first assumption would be that they’re just using these T-54s for training new tank crews. But then I remember we also said that about the T-62s, so I wonder if this is the same thing. Maybe these older tanks really are being sent to the front line. Maybe tank casualties are worse then we believed (either due to age or Russian corruption) and now the Kremlin is having to dig even deeper into storage to replenish their losses.
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Год назад
For training? Maybe, but it would be kind of like teaching somebody how to drive using a tractor instead of a car.
@TheNotoriousT
@TheNotoriousT Год назад
@@robertmaybeth3434 No it wouldn’t. The basic mechanics are the same for all Russian tanks, they use sticks instead of wheel and have manual gearbox. However from the footage that’s posted I believe that they need to supply older tanks to the frontline
@ferrelladkison6538
@ferrelladkison6538 Год назад
I'm sorry but when it's 2 or 3 generations out of date it's not storage it's hoarding. I mean Jesus who is in charge of supply. I wouldn't be surprised if every tank comes with a bowl of stuck together ribbon candy.
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 Год назад
Counter point these tanks are destined for the LPR and DPR to replenish their losses. Or they are being moved out of storage to be converted into other vehicles like bridge layers, combat engineer vehicles, armored recovery vehicles. etc
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 Год назад
LPR and DPR were integrated into russian army
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 Год назад
@@hphp31416 they work in conjunction and in support of the Russian Army but they aren't apart of the Russian Army similar to Wagner group.
@Bluehairedgirl89
@Bluehairedgirl89 Год назад
I know a lot of people are saying this but from what I understand they plan on using these things are artillery for as long as they have ammo for them. Also they are possibly going to use them to fill in for the BMP going back to the old tank rider concept again softer positions. Which is going to suck for the crews and infantry involved, but I guess it’s better than charging over open ground against machine guns.
@SargentGunnery
@SargentGunnery Год назад
Thank you for all the work you do
@spherevsgravity
@spherevsgravity Год назад
as always quality content thanks
@kleinweichkleinweich
@kleinweichkleinweich Год назад
if I remeber the tankist commander from the movie the beast correctly "if it can't move any more it's a bunker" quote from the Panzerlied "our iron coffin"
@wardaddyindustries4348
@wardaddyindustries4348 Год назад
Your last tank counting video got referenced by other good quality channels. I can't imagine the time put into this.
@briandavitmusic9421
@briandavitmusic9421 Год назад
been waiting for this
@jup52
@jup52 Год назад
Great analysis Thanks.
@IowanLawman
@IowanLawman Год назад
As the Chieftain said, an old tank is better than no tank. Chances are you won't meet another tank in most scenarios. And an old tank like a T-55 would be adequate to provide good fire support and good anti vehicle fire. If crew safety or mortality rates aren't a factor, this will do perfectly fine for the job. There are many upgrades of the T-55, like the AM-1/AM-2/AMV that have laser rangefinders and night vision. So they aren't that ancient to be honest.
@_________________404
@_________________404 11 месяцев назад
Not really. BMPs and other lighter vehicles would be better in providing fire support, if they ever use these T-55s then they're gonna be used as a field fortification. This way they won't have to worry about them being fully functional, only the gun working would be good enough.
@mattg2383
@mattg2383 Год назад
this is honestly just sad at this point
@glhx2112
@glhx2112 Год назад
Until recently Wiki stated that there were no more T-55's left after Russia had scrapped all of them by 1994 or 1995. Somebody has some explaining to do.
@celebrim1
@celebrim1 Год назад
It's also important to note that of that 86k-100k T-54/55s, only about half were manufactured in Russia. It's not like Russia ever had a fleet that big. I think they topped out at like 35k in storage, but that was like 50 years ago. I've been seeing a lot of people going around saying Russia has 85k of these in storage and that Russia will reactivate them and NATO won't have enough tanks to stop Russia from getting to Paris. Which is not to put too fine a point on it, more delusional than you average flat earther. What I've heard is that Russia is running out of ammo and they have tons and tons of old 100m HE ammo that they would like to use as artillery rounds. So these are intended to as SPGs.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy Год назад
Ukraine quite recently received M-55 tanks, which are upgraded T-55s, from Slovenia (I think). Reportedly the tanks are also going to use. Many other countries still use some T-55s. The main job of a tank is to be impervious to small arms and machine guns while providing a powerful mobile gun platform on the battlefield. The T-55 can do that. However, it should probably be used in defensive and fire support roles, not in assaults.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD Год назад
They said that about the T-62. Then used them in assaults.
@oam6626
@oam6626 Год назад
Just when I think you guys reach maximum cope you somehow still manage to surprise me lmao
@carso1500
@carso1500 Год назад
Ukraine is also recieving Abrams, Bradleys and leopards
@hyhhy
@hyhhy Год назад
@@oam6626 Yeah bro, facts are totally "maximum cope".
@hyhhy
@hyhhy Год назад
@@carso1500 T-55 is a quite relevant threat to Bradleys and other IFVs. As for modern heavy MBTs, T-55 of course shouldn't face them head-on.
@yuzhonglu
@yuzhonglu Год назад
If the Russian military is in this shape after 1 year of war, imagine what it would look like after another year.
@finsfan90
@finsfan90 Год назад
They'll be in a better position by then. They started this war off poorly unprepared. They've been making moves since to play catch up. The longer this drags on, the more it'll benefit them.
@dgart7434
@dgart7434 Год назад
@@finsfan90 that might be true when it comes to ammo. Not tanks (which is the topic of this video). They are burning through their reserves of tanks that can be quickly sent to the front far faster than they can make and refurbish. Even if they have several thousand left in storage it does not mean much if at max capacity they can only restore a few hundred a year.
@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10
@Messerschmitt_BF_109G_10 Год назад
@@finsfan90 In the state that they are in now, attrition will be MUCH harder for them, just by the sanctions alone.
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 Год назад
NATO is running out of ammo and weapons...and not even fighting.
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
Well Ukraine is in no better position either. Most of their tanks are destroyed. That’s why they are begging every nato nation.
@robote7679
@robote7679 Год назад
Very interesting. Understand there was a lot of speculation but there was a hell of a lot of just down and dirty research too. Thanks for all the hard work.
@rottensoul440
@rottensoul440 Год назад
Thanks for your tireless osint analysis
@scifidino5022
@scifidino5022 Год назад
Russia: *sends hundreds of tanks straight into minefields Also Russia after it has no tanks left: *surprised pikachu face
@PD-we8vf
@PD-we8vf Год назад
You sound so ignorant.
@user-yj8vj3sq6j
@user-yj8vj3sq6j Год назад
where did you et the idea that Russia has no tanks left?
@gingerlicious3500
@gingerlicious3500 Год назад
​@@user-yj8vj3sq6j If Russia is pulling T-55s out of storage for frontline service they are seriously scraping the bottom of the barrel. Russia might not be out of tanks, but this is a sign they are running seriously low on anything that even resembles a modern MBT. Imagine if the US had to pull old Patton tanks out of storage when it invaded Iraq.
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ Год назад
@@gingerlicious3500 how do you know that the T55 are for frontline service? Right know we don't know that. So you shouldn't spread that misinformation.
@gingerlicious3500
@gingerlicious3500 Год назад
@@Jehty_ That's why I said "if". And hell, even if they aren't pressing them into frontline service it is a bad sign for Russia.
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 Год назад
didnt you hear Tankies? They sent oldest tanks cuz now 1500 T-14's await for a real invasion. Or as I like to call it- "Cope harder"
@StabbinJoeScarborough
@StabbinJoeScarborough Год назад
👍😅😆
@Meoldson
@Meoldson Год назад
That gives me a cope-hard-on.
@Flamechr
@Flamechr Год назад
"they" haven't sent their best yet 😂
@SCH292
@SCH292 Год назад
These T54 and T55 tank fan boys are coping so hard they are starting to sound like Hitler in the movie DOWNFALL. Remember in DOWNFALL when Hitler said something about Steiner? Once Steiner attack everything will be okay. Yep. Steiner is going to smash the Soviet in the east and turn around to smash the allies at the west. These Russian Tank fan boys believe that once Russia mobilize, line up, organize these tanks and attack in massive wave these T54 and T55 will break through turning this war around. 🤣
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko Год назад
They might be wishing they had 1500 T-14's at this point... or maybe not. YT channel called Lazerpig did an interesting video on the T-14 Armata and the problems it has. Whether or not a eccentric drunken pig is your go-to source for info is up to you but the actual guy apparently has/had a job in British Intelligence so maybe he's good at analysis. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--opSlCGLGQ4.html
@aus3492
@aus3492 Год назад
Tanks for this video.
@larrypog5050
@larrypog5050 Год назад
Thank you.. interesting report..
@thomasprochaska5083
@thomasprochaska5083 Год назад
Very good report (as usual)!!!! I just want to add one important item: Independent how much Ammunition for T54/55 Russia might or might not still have available. Many other countries of them have plenty available, like: Syria, Iran, Egypt, North Korea, China, Pakistan and most likely India just to name a view. With most of them Russia still has very good connections and some of them wouldn`t hesitate a second to sell them to Russia against hard cash!!!!!
@stianberg5645
@stianberg5645 Год назад
I lean towards the artillery role. The russian artillery used now is getting worn out and will need maintenance. The tanks will probably fill gaps while this maintenance is performed.
@wolfyys
@wolfyys Год назад
"Using tanks designed nearly 70 years ago" - 75 Years to be exact. T-54 entered service in 1948 - Put simply it's only 8 years younger than the T-34
@vincentjosephcesista7497
@vincentjosephcesista7497 Год назад
Incredible research
@disbeafakename167
@disbeafakename167 Год назад
I wouldn't imagine the purpose is to fight other tanks. A big armored box with a large gun could find other uses on the battlefield I'm sure.
@smtx2117
@smtx2117 Год назад
They can be useful in the indirect fire/mechanized artillery/ infantry fighting vehicles roles
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 Год назад
@militarypower4093 Seriously think finding a loader is such a big problem?
@bluemarlin8138
@bluemarlin8138 Год назад
@@victorzvyagintsev1325 Yes, it is. There’s a lot more to being a loader than just putting a round in the breech. That’s the easy part. Now try doing it in a dark, moving, bouncing tank, without taking forever and giving the enemy time to fire 5 rounds to your 1. Oh, and you have to do it without getting your hand taken off in the process. And to top it all off, the only people who still know how to load tank rounds in T-54s/55s are in their 70s and 80s and probably don’t remember.
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 Год назад
@@bluemarlin8138 Can pull loaders from Rapira 100mm AT gun crews. Although not compatible, the rounds are similar and the loaders will require less time to get used to the new position. In any case, my bet is that these tanks will be converted to something else. There were plans to a poor-mans BMPT on a T-55 chassis for example.
@wozja
@wozja Год назад
T55’s/62’s wouldn’t be used to engage other tanks … they would be used for soft skin armour … APC’s … shoot into buildings. This would just be infantry support
@FortuneZer0
@FortuneZer0 Год назад
3:05 WOOO THUN
@hellrider6609
@hellrider6609 Год назад
It's not hard to train someone to be a loader. You just take the shell and put it in the gun.
@matthewgibbs6886
@matthewgibbs6886 Год назад
dont get behind it and dont lose your hand and its all good
@kieranh2005
@kieranh2005 Год назад
It's a little more involved than that, and takes time and repetition. Doing it in a moving vehicle, in near dark, in a rotating turret basket in that moving vehicle, memorizing where the ammunition racks are and exactly what is in which rack etc. It's I bit more difficult than eating junk food as you drive your car along.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 Год назад
Loaders do more than just load.
@obsidianjane4413
@obsidianjane4413 Год назад
@@kieranh2005 T-55s don't even have a turret basket floor. An untrained loader is a hazard not only to himself, but the whole tank.
@arturobianco848
@arturobianco848 Год назад
@@kieranh2005 Well its not the best vehicle anymore to use it that way. It will probable used dug in at a defensive position. And even a half trained loader could be pretty effective then. Besides Russia has more man to spare then equipment and they aren't as squimish about losses then the west.
@shaddaboop7998
@shaddaboop7998 Год назад
I think the most likely explanation is that they're going to be used as range targets, or possibly to train tank crews in the basics (serviceable T-72s are in very short supply in Russia right now as they started doing a mass upgrade program a few weeks ago). IF they are indeed going to Ukraine I wonder if they'd be given to the separatist cannon fodder. The T-62s initially sent to Ukraine were given to the separatists, and then apparently when the tank losses started to get really bad towards the end of last year the Russian army requisitioned a bunch, so the T-54/55s are possibly a (very insubstantial) backfill.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD Год назад
Training crews on the wrong tank type is actually worse than just sending the T-55.
@shaddaboop7998
@shaddaboop7998 Год назад
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD "In the basics". Firing the gun, loading it, and most importantly of all driving the tank and working together as a team inside a tank. Basic maintenance tasks could also be trained. A mechanic doesn't need to be retrained for every car they repair, but they will do a better and faster job on ones they're specifically familiar with. While those T-72s are away in workshops you might as well use that time to train up the enormous amount of tank crews needed for them. Assuming Russia's new 2,000-a-year tank production figure is true (probably not) that means they'll need to train 6,000 crew for them all, and that would be without any reserves. They would need additional training on a T-72 or T-90 before going into combat but look at Ukraine, they're using tank crews that did six months training on Soviet tanks to use Leopard 2s and Challenger 2s in six weeks, because they have all the basics down.
@2ftg
@2ftg Год назад
@@shaddaboop7998 But the new russian tanks have an autoloader. There is no loader in the crew. Only T-54/55 and older will require loaders.
@panderson9561
@panderson9561 Год назад
@@2ftg So you use them to train on everything but loading.
@shaddaboop7998
@shaddaboop7998 Год назад
@@2ftg T-62 is currently widespread in Russian service and requires a manual loader. Russian crews train manual loading for T-72 and T-90 anyway in case of a mid-battle autoloader malfunction (this happens more than you might think).
@PsilocybinCocktail
@PsilocybinCocktail Год назад
Props for doing all that counting work so we don't have to! I've done it on a small scale and it's unbelievably tedious and finicky.
@danscott8899
@danscott8899 Год назад
They could use them as static defense on the Crimean coastline in hull down positions. Or for a static defense behind more mobile newer tanks. Just a thought. One comment mentioned low angle artillery. That could work to use up old stockpiles of ammo.
@toma9976
@toma9976 Год назад
The T55 main gun has a maximum of 2,000 meters. Most everything in Ukraine can take them out at 4500 meters plus. They’re coffins.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 Год назад
3:06 tank with 417 number has polish marking on it.
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ Год назад
And the one just before a Syrian flag. Those pics are just to show the difference between the tanks. They aren't meant to show Russian tanks.
@johnmarten4184
@johnmarten4184 Год назад
It takes about 2 hours to train a loader. I was an armored battalion HHC company clerk and got detailed to be the gunner in the battalion XOs M-60 for it's annual qualification. The crew comprised of a mechanic, a recruiter, and 2 clerks. Loading was very simple, and being gunner mustn't have been rocket science because after 2 weeks we could hit a moving bulls eye at night while maneuvering. Except for the mechanic driver we didn't know jack about maintaining or fixing the thing, and we didn't get into tactics and camouflage, but we could drive and shoot.
@MrWolfstar8
@MrWolfstar8 2 месяца назад
Having this video pop up a year later in my feed is hilarious.
@flailingelbows7073
@flailingelbows7073 Год назад
I could see these mostly being used as either indirect fire and or static defense; Similar to how the Germans and Allies in WW2 used tankette turrets as hardened pill boxes. Sink one of these into the ground, surround it with sand bags and earth- and it could make a formidable (Albeit easily targetable) observation post / machine gun position even if they don’t use the main gun.
@abhilashyadav2274
@abhilashyadav2274 Год назад
Now the A 10 can use only its cannon to destroy a tank . Lets just hope there aren't any British troops on the ground this time.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 Год назад
I think that one of the lessons of this war, is that even the largest militaries on the planet will struggle to replace losses with modern equipment on a modern battle field. For all the smart weapons out there, the field may ultimately belong to the side with the best of the simple to build hardware.
@jamesgrimm9121
@jamesgrimm9121 Год назад
I would agree. A modern weapons system without ammo isn't really worth that much. I wonder if the usage patterns have all militaries rethinking their stores and what would be needed to battle modern militaries.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 Год назад
@@jamesgrimm9121 One of the challenges with the "smart" munitions, is that they have very limited shelf lifes, especially for the batteries, and are constantly being obsoleted with new tech. I think they are going to have to re-think when/where they use the smart weapons, and start adopting some lower tech weapons, such as the Carl Gustof recoiless rifle, as the US army recently did. They finally realized that sending Javelins into caves, and apartment building was expensive, and made no sense.
@DJtheLoungeLizard
@DJtheLoungeLizard Год назад
They'll probably be used for artillery while their barrels are refurbished/replaced back home. Another sign that high-precision artillery is in short supply currently.
@LibertyFirst1789
@LibertyFirst1789 Год назад
further question: how much ammo do they have for a T54, spare parts? How old are the optics? Are they useless in the dark?
@TerryTurner
@TerryTurner Год назад
Russia has a lot of tanks but how many are operational?
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Год назад
Russia had a lot of tanks, how many are operational?
@SCH292
@SCH292 Год назад
The answer could be this? Maybe Russia never had OVER 10,000 TANKS in the first place? They just inflate the numbers to make themselves LOOK BIGGER.
@omarrobertosantillanmenese5736
Before the war Active:2,300-2,700 Able to reactivate:4,000 Beyond repair or not feasible: 5000-6000
@TerryTurner
@TerryTurner Год назад
@@omarrobertosantillanmenese5736 thanks! 👍
@1977Yakko
@1977Yakko Год назад
If this war has proven anything, it's that logistics wins wars and Russians logistics are terrible.
@portaltwo
@portaltwo Год назад
At this point they're basically just mobile artillery. Not that bad of an idea I suppose, when your regular artillery is being either destroyed or worn out.
@jrd33
@jrd33 Год назад
Problem is, they make very bad artillery. All the resources invested in these could otherwise be spent on more up-to-date and suitable equipment.
@tiagomonteiro130
@tiagomonteiro130 Год назад
​​@@jrd33 Last time Turkey tryed to use their Leopards as artillery they got destroyed also tank shells don't produce as much shrapnel as artillery shells
@spark5558
@spark5558 Год назад
They are basically Assault guns
@OBCBTTB
@OBCBTTB Год назад
Read that there are millions of rounds of 100mm ammunition in storage. So, as field artillery, it is better than nothing. Giving the other artillery pieces a break and manufacturing a chance to catch up with ammunition supplies for artillery in service on the front lines. A bridging exercise and secondary defensive line, perhaps.
@portaltwo
@portaltwo Год назад
@@jrd33 That assumes they can get such things. Beggars can't be choosers, as my Dad used to say.
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls Год назад
Ways to spot bots - First, they often use "individual" names as screen names (not all the time, but I was stupid and made this account without thinking I'd be commenting under this often)... most normal people don't want their names on the internet. It's also intended to make you think an actual person is behind this opinion... ask yourself, would you use your name on RU-vid? Second, they often have screen names like "reason" or "patriot", something like this... the intent is to make you assume they're just a normal thinking person, often "middle of the spectrum" Third, they have subscribers but no content. Or the content is all random reposting... often video game related Fourth, but not as obvious or common... they joined in years of Russian turmoil. So 2014, 2008, 2022 Keep your eyes out folks, the majority of comments are paid troll farms or straight bot postings. This isn't just my rambling on this, independent groups have identified these traits
@tetispinkman9135
@tetispinkman9135 Год назад
Also they enjoy using lots of emojis
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls Год назад
@TetisPinkman 91 I'll have to start looking at that... I started digging on "buying" followers and comments etc... the bot industry is gigantic Plus there's a reason Russia doesn't block RU-vid
@orig1990vintoy
@orig1990vintoy Год назад
KJU:"Stalin gave this to my grandfather." Skylark:"In my country it's pronounced Stalone." *plays fireworks on the intercom.*
@Chirality452
@Chirality452 Год назад
What about the more likely idea that they will use them for training in order to free up more modern tanks for front line units?
@GerManBearPig
@GerManBearPig Год назад
All available tanks that work are in Ukraine
@Chirality452
@Chirality452 Год назад
@@GerManBearPig So how do they train the new recruits?
@brulsmurf
@brulsmurf Год назад
The turret turns so slow, you could eat a sandwich before they have it pointed at your general direction.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 Год назад
yes but buildings doesnt move fast
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 Год назад
if they can beat the geological movement of the earth they will produce 1meter by 1 meter whole in that building. But the time runs fast and the ''working day'' will pass too...the crew will ask their rubles at the end of the month for their 3buildings destroyed I guess... THIS IS THE MAXIMUM
@madkabal
@madkabal Год назад
I think they will be used as "Infantry Fighting Vehicles" to replace some of the BMPs. grunt can ride on top of the tanks.
@DrzBa
@DrzBa Год назад
@3:27 The gap *is* between the first and second rollers, the turrets are facing backwards as they are transported on rail cars...
@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@T33K3SS3LCH3N Год назад
I think it indicates one of two things: 1. Russia has already burned deep into its reserves and has now arrived at tanks that are difficult to restore. 2. Or Russia suffers from spare part shortages or other bottlenecks that increasingly complicate the restauration of more modern types. In the first case, they might choose those T-55 that are still in decent condition beccause they're faster to restore than anything else they have. In the second case, they really don't have a choice. It's either T-55 or their production lines halt completely.
@nich7622
@nich7622 Год назад
When did you get your PhD in predictions? Yesterday! So lovely to read those experts. Laughter elongates our life (old russian proverb)
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 Год назад
Most likely is 3rd, Russia is recycling some old tanks and giving them to territorial defense / Donbass guard forces. Very good use. Russia has plenty of T-72s and T-90s for offensive operations. But there is never enough tanks for everyone.
@stefanobonaiuti8243
@stefanobonaiuti8243 Год назад
​@@tomk3732 if it's using t-62/t-55, it doesn't have many tanks left. easy as that.
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 Год назад
@@stefanobonaiuti8243 Why? Ukraine has been using some WWII tanks - does it mean they have none left?
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco Год назад
@@nich7622 Well, well, so you have stolen even proverbs from us Central Europeans, and call it "old russian"? Lets try to find at least a single person who is surprised.
@drgat6953
@drgat6953 Год назад
We know from Russian announcements that they are planning on upgrading a lot of T-62s. I am wondering if these T-55s are less for combat and more for spare parts for the T-62s.
@grahamkeithtodd
@grahamkeithtodd Год назад
well even at their best, the russians can only "up grade 10 tanks a month if they are lucky, and their idea of up grading is a laugh at best... on the russian tank crews
@danm6499
@danm6499 Год назад
Reactivating them will accomplish two things. 1: Bullet Sponge. 2: Free up maintenance money and personel after they get lit up.
@usun_politics1033
@usun_politics1033 Год назад
They can be used as mobile arty near front lines, they got a lot of 100mm HE stockpiles not used up yet.
@Alex-lm1cj
@Alex-lm1cj Год назад
T62, T54...T34...what next T14? 😆 🤣
@Alpostpone
@Alpostpone Год назад
Would be about time if you ask me!
@GerManBearPig
@GerManBearPig Год назад
You should mention that like 90% of all (armored) vehicles in ukraine arent MBTs and can easily be disabled with much smaller guns (well the total number is just a guess but you get the point) So I find the discussion about tank calibers klinda pointless because most tank kills are done by mines, drones, artillery, RPGs or ATGM or even IFVs with autocannons that disable those tanks
@dk6024
@dk6024 Год назад
Thanks!
@daveharper5655
@daveharper5655 Год назад
How many usable tanks do you think they might have left? I’m hoping they are out.
@johnathanstephenson8107
@johnathanstephenson8107 Год назад
I think that they are mostly going to be used as Missile bate. A good anti tank missile cost more then 4 of those old tanks. And you can "upgrade" them with cheap RC drone control. Also they can be issued to the prisoner troops that are already being used as little more than targets to show the "good" troops where landmines MG nest and snipers are.
@fensoxx
@fensoxx Год назад
I have no experience in any of this other than an armchair student of history my whole life but that sounds like a fantastic idea. Facing a virgin field that hasn’t been crossed? Send a few RC 54s across first. Anyone hiding in the bushes with anti tank weapons may take the bait.
@mossfloss
@mossfloss Год назад
Armored cannon fodder manned by soft cannon fodder.
@Inspectorzinn2
@Inspectorzinn2 Год назад
Your cost analysis is off, one source puts the NLAW at $30,000 USD. The fuel and maintenance alone to get 4 of these tanks to the front costs more than $30,000
@lucydopson4202
@lucydopson4202 Год назад
@@Inspectorzinn2 For something as thinly armored as a T-55, there's even cheaper options. A good old fashioned RPG-7 will do the trick and there's approximately infinity of those in Ukraine right now. ATGMs are cheaper the tanks, even old tanks. As you said, fuel and maintenance costs to get a 50 ton vehicle to the front rival the cost of even advanced modern ATGMs designed to take out much better armored vehicles.
@recoil53
@recoil53 Год назад
@@Inspectorzinn2 I think for one of the German anti-tank weapons, munitions are like $7K/round.
@erloriel
@erloriel Год назад
I just want to thank the various VPN sponsors for single-handedly funding the entire RU-vid OSINT effort.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 Год назад
Perun covered this a week ago. Most likely the T55 will be used as an assault gun/artillery since it’s still an engine with a gun
@jboquiren1
@jboquiren1 Год назад
This is amazing work! Do you use an AI algorithm like ArcGIS geodatabase tools to perform the tedious and time-consuming task of inventory and assays of raster images?
@JohnVance
@JohnVance Год назад
Great video and fantastic analysis. I'd also be interested in your take on the cost/benefit analysis of the cheap-ass Iranian drones that have to be taken down by expensive S-300. Caspian Report recently did a vid on it, but I always like to get your take as well.
@caracallaavg
@caracallaavg Год назад
S-300 is an overkill. They are mostly tackled by Toyota technicals with machine guns
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD Год назад
They're not even that cheap. The component analysis from wreckages shows they do use high quality aircraft grade components.
@Gen.Tomsky
@Gen.Tomsky Год назад
The primary weapon of the Ukrainians against the low-and-slow Iranian Shahed "moped drones" are usually Soviet-type .50 cal (12.7x101) DShK "Dushka" heavy machine guns and not the heavy hitters like the S-300. The Dushkas are usually installed in manually operated twin-mounts on light trucks aka civilian heavy duty pickups and come with analog computing gunsights like the ones on late WW II USAF fighters plus night vision. Especially at night further assistance in targeting and ranging is provided by detached support units equipped with night-vision rangefinders and laser designators to aid the gunner in target acquisition. The Ukrainians have formed a large number of these light, mobile anti-drone units around their large cities and key infrastructure. They comprise mostly of elderly territorial soldiers or volunteers with some kind of gun experience and can be alerted on short notice once incoming Shaheds are reported by the Ukrainian air defence. The territorials and volunteers usually live close to the areas they have been designated to defend and both the Dushka and its ammunition are cheap and plentiful and a used civilian HD pickup also doesn't cost an arm and a leg. These Shahed-hunter-units have proven extremely effective against this new kind of low-tech threat - cheap being beaten by even cheaper and some ingenuity.
@rstous7691
@rstous7691 Год назад
One of the saving graces of those drones it they're also slow and loud. Ukraine tries to take them out with guns first. If there is an aa gun around, for sure it will take it down. A guy with a machine gun, less effective.
@NorwegianNationalist1
@NorwegianNationalist1 Год назад
@@Gen.Tomsky Lol Ukraine even sends fighter jets to interecept and take down those drones with missiles, one drone even managed to down a fighter jet.
@forgingapath8809
@forgingapath8809 Год назад
I remember hearing on another channel that they might be sent to Kherson to be used as Artillary, since its pretty low intensity right now, or sent to other low intensity areas to be used as emplaced guns.
@Rehunauris
@Rehunauris Год назад
People also claimed that about T-62. Ended up being used by VDV and other Russian regular soldiers on frontlines.
@dejanpesovic5717
@dejanpesovic5717 Год назад
that tank can be used against infantry in our army, it was more popular than the t72. and from an ambush it can tear up a trail of a modern tank. once he becomes an immobile target, he becomes easy prey.
@mlc4495
@mlc4495 Год назад
Probably used as artillery well behind the lines or as fixed gun emplacements.
@red_orange2971
@red_orange2971 Год назад
If they are pulling T55s out, that means that they are about to run out of stored T72s and T80s that are in working condition and don't require a lot of maintenance. So they are filling a gap until they repair more T72s and T80s. Not a good sign.
@mastermariner490
@mastermariner490 Год назад
If they are able to repair anything or take them out of storage because they lack parts and electronics from the west
@user-yj8vj3sq6j
@user-yj8vj3sq6j Год назад
Russsia: moves T-55 from the hellhole on the eastern fringe somewhere to the west. Experts in youtube comments: frothing
@95TurboSol
@95TurboSol Год назад
And they were discussing possible ceasefire resolutions with China recently, maybe they are losing resources
@viceralman8450
@viceralman8450 Год назад
Russia has lost to date 1.888 MBTs if they are pulling the museum pieces that means they are running out of modern armor.
@olafsigursons
@olafsigursons Год назад
Some say they want to use it as SP artillery but I am not sure it could that useful. Might be not really precise and the angle of the gun can move can also be very limited. Maybe as cheap support assault gun? Between Russia using 70yo tanks and them loosing access to the Baykunur spaceport, it seem like Russia is in trouble.
@skipperg4436
@skipperg4436 Год назад
They said exactly the same thing about T-62 tanks. Duh, UAF just really kicked some Russian ar$e and Putler's fanboys just don't want to admit it
@-oysterthief4444
@-oysterthief4444 Год назад
They’ll say it about the 34’s when they ship those in!!! Hahaha! Tragic…
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 Год назад
and how many 100mm rounds do they have sitting around that are any good? As for trajectory......ramped upward provides a "howitzer" trajectory instead of line of site...although it would only be useful in an anti-personnel round. The distance to target is another thing to consider....would end up being more of a "mobile armored mortar carrier". BUT...as soon as the Ukrainians spotted it, the next RPG is going to barbeque that crew.
@hyhhy
@hyhhy Год назад
@@josephcernansky1794 I'm sure Ukrainians could zerg-rush these tanks with RPG-equipped infantry and destroy many of them, as they have done many times against Russian tanks with all kinds of anti-tank weapons. But the thing is, they suffer many times more casualties than the Russians while doing that, which is kind of the point of heavy equipment: a force multiplier, not some indestructible superweapon.
@StretchMedia
@StretchMedia Год назад
Coincidentally, Iran makes a modern 100mm shell that is compatible with T55s. Most likely they will be used as artillery with airburst artillery rounds against oncoming IFVs and personnel
@M4Mnetwork
@M4Mnetwork Год назад
They can use them as unmanned drones or dummy tanks to deplete antitank defenses of all kinds before attempting major pushes.
@jonathanwetters3425
@jonathanwetters3425 Год назад
Most underrated mil blogger out there. Covert Cobal is a giant up there with task and purpose, binkov, and history legends.
@TrangleC
@TrangleC Год назад
If Ukraine has a use for Leopard 1 tanks, I guess the fact that T-55s have no armor protection against modern weapons and a relatively small gun doesn't automatically disqualify them. Both (T-55 and Leopard 1) are still pretty capable of killing anything that is softer than a modern MBT.
@malokegames
@malokegames Год назад
They probably would never meet. These are not meant to be used in the frontline as main battle tanks.
@mastermariner490
@mastermariner490 Год назад
T54/55 unless upgraded,have optic sights and rangefinder,no ballistic computer,weak armour,no thermals,have to stop to fire,cant fire on the move,and a weak gun in comparison to a leopard1a5 that have laser rangefinder,ballistic computer,thermals and a more powerful gun and can shoot on the move.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 Год назад
And fulfill original purpose of tank: supporting infantry while being resilient to MG fire.
@mastermariner490
@mastermariner490 Год назад
@@piotrd.4850 Original purpose of tanks is to destroy other tanks,IFVs carry infantry
@viceralman8450
@viceralman8450 Год назад
Leo 1 can use M900 APFSDS which is enough to take out most of Russian armor.
@edocsil123
@edocsil123 Год назад
Could be used as static defenses
@flammamancer
@flammamancer Год назад
Its probably going to be used as indirect fire support but I would pity the fool in a T-55 who gets told something like "A Western Main Battle Tank was spotted, go get em"
@OtherWorldExplorers
@OtherWorldExplorers Год назад
I have commented on other channels about this. My thoughts are they're using them to free up tanks in the rear. These can be used for rear security road guards and that sort of thing.
@richardautry8269
@richardautry8269 Год назад
The issue with using them for artillery is that if they are off by a mere 3 degrees of gun elevation the round could land almost 1km away from a target at 7000 meter range. So just hang out firing round after round. I am sure nothing bad will happen. Just ignore that spotter drone comrade.
@chuapg1518
@chuapg1518 Год назад
Need to be careful with Russia. If one artillery doesn't hit the target, use ten. If ten artilleries still miss, flatten the whole area that the target might be in.
@kuunoooo7293
@kuunoooo7293 Год назад
I think they'll 1 modify them to btrt's wich could actually be very usefull 2 they'll use them as a temporary atterilly guns as a stopgap for the masta guns wich will get maintenence
@Alpostpone
@Alpostpone Год назад
I'm still kind of wondering if they have more modern tanks waiting for _some_ possible future use because it seems just too surreal to believe that _Russia_ would be running out of _tanks._
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Год назад
See his previous video's...they don't have as many as Think Tanks thought...
@user-gc1hg9sp9k
@user-gc1hg9sp9k Год назад
They probably still have thousands of reserve of T-72 and T-80
@diagatjl6096
@diagatjl6096 Год назад
Considering that even in the said satellite images there's a LOT more T-62's in storage than 55's, likely there's a shit ton of tanks, it's just they want to use cheapest and most useless as fodder now so others would get at least some half-assed upgrades in the future; mind that even highest estimates of Russian tank losses barely scratch the surface of all the storage machines available
@AdelaeR
@AdelaeR Год назад
@@user-gc1hg9sp9k There's a huge difference though between: 1- A reserve tank in storage that has been rusting for decades. 2- A reserve tank in storage that is in perfect condition and has been upgraded with newer tech. So Russia may have thousands of tanks in storage, but how many of them can actually fight?
@theotherohlourdespadua1131
@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Год назад
For one thing, Russia won't be sending its remaining best units to Ukraine as they are stuck doing guard duty in Moscow and Saint Petersburg...
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 Год назад
A better question is how many T72, and T80s and T90s' they have left
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 Год назад
See his previous videos...but here's some rough maths with a pinch of salt added in... Pre-war they had 3,000 in their regular Army core fleet, all T-72, T-80 and T-90, with c6000 in storage (but as c800-1,000 of those are T-54/55/62, that leaves 5,000 of later T-seres variants, exc T-64 which appear to have all gone now). So of those 8,000 (3,000+5,000) they've lost at least 2,000 (Oryx has c1800 at present, but thats only the ones that have been video'd/photographed). That leaves 6,000....but previously CC has estimated that only half of the ones in storage are recoverable at all/in a reasonable timeframe. That removes 2,500....which leaves them with 3,500 left of the T-72/80/90 variants. But also thats not the whole story....at least 800 of their losses are their best tanks (T-80BVM, T-72B3's etc, T-90 and T-90M). The quality of their tank fleet is dropping faster than the quantity... And most of their pre-war main tank fleet has been running on its tracks for close to 15 months now in war time conditions (the war and the previous large exercises). Thats absolutely ruinous for maintenance and force generation. A big chunk of their fleet must be either utterly worn out, cannibalised for parts or just plain knackered. And there isn't the tank repair capacity or spare part production to put it right.... Remember they will still need some post war...they can't run their numbers down to zero, otherwise Russia is undefended...previously they had 3,000 in their core fleet, evidently thats what they think they need to defend Russia at a minimum... Ultimately no-one knows exactly, but....from the fact that they're digging out T-62 and T-55 we know they're in trouble, we know that Russian industry cannot keep up with spares, repairs or new production as well. The Russian's might be reaching the point where they are cutting into their 'core' fleet of 3,000 available tanks that they need for territorial defence, hence the desperation to get anything else out on the battlefield...when they get to that 'core' number left they're going to have to make some serious decisions about whether they can continue the war...
@namelastname9578
@namelastname9578 Год назад
@@dogsnads5634 Excellent response.
@Zigmens
@Zigmens Год назад
@@dogsnads5634 Yep armchair general with internet PhD in warfare analysis, keep spreading shit information
@mohamedridabourhila9531
@mohamedridabourhila9531 Год назад
It makes no since to use them as Tanks, they will probably turn them to engineering vehicules or Heavy IFVs like BTR-T.
@jackroutledge352
@jackroutledge352 Год назад
How well will these work as artillery? Do they have the equipment to aim these accurately for indirect fire? And will they shift between shots anyway, making repeatability a problem?
@user-yj8vj3sq6j
@user-yj8vj3sq6j Год назад
drones help correct indirect fire from tanks
@Canada-_
@Canada-_ Год назад
from what I gathered from people fighting for Ukraine tanks are mostly (not always) used in an indirect fire role, which Russian tanks are designed for and western tank are not (there are exceptions) and a 100mm and a 125mm tank round is still a threat to infantry on the ground. and since the Russian army is still taking delivery's of t-72b3m orb. 2022, T-80BVM orb. 2022, and T-90M's although in low numbers. they're probably just filling gaps in they're artry because of barrel ware and attrition.
@ReDFootY
@ReDFootY Год назад
I also watched "ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-awmAAStrtlM.html" by military history not visualized.
@andersbjrnsen7203
@andersbjrnsen7203 Год назад
But how well can a MBT really do at playing SPA? I presume they lack some elevation specific fire control gear and such to fully function as artillery?
@colinhobbs7265
@colinhobbs7265 Год назад
​@@andersbjrnsen7203 dig a ramp like you saw towards the end of the video and pre-sight on important targets like crossroads
@andersbjrnsen7203
@andersbjrnsen7203 Год назад
@@colinhobbs7265 yeah, I saw it later in the vid and had an "of course" moment😀
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 Год назад
@@andersbjrnsen7203 No one is asking to replace long range artillery here. A tank can work in an artillery role 5 km from the target.
@MattNeufy
@MattNeufy Год назад
3:40 you’ve got to be a REAL jaded individual to not crack a smile at that, whatever orc was driving that was having the time of his life, and you know what? Good for him :)
@user-yj8vj3sq6j
@user-yj8vj3sq6j Год назад
Lol. You do know that many European countries employ soviet tanks, do you?
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer Год назад
@@user-yj8vj3sq6j Yup, sending them to Ukraine to get rid of them and ordering American, German and South Korean tanks.
@chrissteer3733
@chrissteer3733 Год назад
I have seen a video over the last few day that said exactly that.. 100mm rounds coming in from China or Iran.. and that the old tanks could be used as artillery because the barrels of the stand alone artillery pieces are taking to long to bring back to the front.
@gareththompson2708
@gareththompson2708 Год назад
The way I conceptualize the relative value of 1st and 2nd gen MBTs on the modern battlefield (which should really only have 3rd gen MBTs on it) is that they are, for all intents and purposes, useless in the anti-tank role (yes, a lucky hit from a 1st or 2nd gen MBT can kill a modern tank, but such a hit is unlikely), but still capable of performing all other roles demanded of a tank, albeit at reduced efficiency (no protection against any anti-armor weapon, no thermals, no computerized fire-control). It can destroy infantry, fortifications, and lightly armored vehicles. So a T-55 is never going to threaten an Abrams, or even a T-72, but it can still kill BMPs more effectively than just another BMP could. So the best way to use such old tanks is probably to make them organic fire support assets to infantry units. Use them as assault guns (basically the role that the MPF was developed for). And they should do perfectly fine in the makeshift artillery role as well.
@stoyanbalev184
@stoyanbalev184 Год назад
Tank to tank battles are very rare. They will be good enough against personnel carriers.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 Год назад
IF they actually hit Thats another RARE '' thing... an APC not seeing a camouflaged sitting tank FIRST ?
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 Год назад
Amoving T 55 would struggle a great deal hitting a moving target even with highly trained crew
@stoyanbalev184
@stoyanbalev184 Год назад
@@kukulroukul4698 yes, I think they are just another number on the battlefield to spread the reducing Ukrainian army on. I wouldn't want it be in one of those easy targets.
@Britlurker
@Britlurker Год назад
Not just rare in this war - non-existent it seems. Tanks seem to be back where they were in WW1 - mobile artillery.
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Год назад
The last big battle between tanks was battle of Kursk. And after that 1965 Indo Pak war. After that Gulf war. But gulf war was between two unequal powers. Ukraine seems to be evenly matched against Russi.
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