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One of my favorite running gags is Mosby doing something strange and a hotel guest seeing it without any context, prompting Mosby to desperately try to explain his behavior to the guest
Seems he got comfortable as he got older, he's alot more extra on the SS Tipton, perhaps it's cuz Mr Tipton isn't breathing on his neck while out to sea, plus London can't snitch if she can't leave like she wants and that makes it easier to work on the ship
“We were a poor family. We could only afford one name” was my favorite line in the show and prompted me to use it on adults who thought I was an insane child
“Mother lost a foot that day..” “Oh my gosh! Does she walk with a limp?!” “No, she used to be 5ft, now she’s shes 4ft” That episode was FULL of iconic arson quotes 😂😂
And it's not mean spirited! So many kids shows are just immensely and unwaveringly MEAN. But like. Zack and Cody are the bad guys but they're also just kids. They're not malicious, they're kids.
@@AeonKnigh432London is also usually pretty mean to Maddie, always calling her ugly or poor lol 🤣 she was mean in a ditzy, doesn’t know any better way.
I won the Disney Channel sweepstakes they did in 2005 when Suite Life was first premiering, not first prize but like third prize… I won a mini fridge with a big Suite Life sticker on it & almost 20 years later it’s now in the living room of the grownup house I share with my husband, holding all my beers. Life is weird & I’m kinda amazed it still runs.
@@mikeyduff3557 That scene was in the episode where Zack fakes dyslexia. It was banned in the states, but it still aired in syndication in Canada. As a Canadian myself, I can't believe there are people who don't remember that scene bc it truly was iconic
@@ramshaimamI'm American, and I definitely do remember that scene. I'm not sure if I remember any of the other stuff in the episode, but I don't know what other context in which I would have seen that scene
The reason why shows would get rebrands (like Suite Life becoming On deck) was because it artifically meant a show wouldnt go past a certain number of seasons and legally force Disney to pay more. So by making Suite Life a "new show" they restarted the clock and could still pay the actors season 1 salaries even though they had been working for liek 4 seasons.
Pretty sure this is exactly what happened with Jessie going into Bunk’d, though I think Jessie only ran for 3 seasons. And now Bunk’d is on Season 7, as I have learned from a google search 2 minutes ago, oh my god how is this show still going EDIT: Okay, I have proven myself wrong. Apparently Jessie DID get 4 seasons. Could’ve sworn GI Jessie was the end of Season 1, but I was very wrong haha
@@jacearmor5274 Couldn’t tell you. But from a quick skim of the cast list and synopsis’, season 7 started pretty recently and has reset the majority of the main cast. For the second time.
YES! Joey from Liv & Maddie just did an interview abt this he said “They have a deal with, I don't know if it's the unions or the AMPTP, but they had a deal where the first three seasons of a show, you get paid 88% of scale. So it's 88% of like minimum wage, pretty much, for the crew, and then the idea is, you work on a show, it becomes popular, you go four, five, six seasons, and you get 100%, or whatever that is. But then, they, by the third season, even if the show's popular, they reboot it as a brand new show. So, we were Liv and Maddie for the first three seasons, and the last season was Liv and Maddie: Cali Style." And it's technically a 'new show' so they can go back to paying you crap but it's in our contracts that we can't renegotiate unless everybody decides to renegotiate."
@@maggiebaxter6844 Yeah that sounds about right! It’s so weird to think about specifically for Liv and Maddie because it was marketed as “Cali Style” but even now, it’s listed as “Season 4” for Liv and Maddie on Disney+. It’s like Disney doesn’t even know what it is lmao It’s also kind of a unique case since it’s another season of Liv and Maddie, but now they’re in California, and it was marketed as a “new series” as it was aired.
The concept of a super hopeful ghost hunter who just like.. misses all the possible evidence in front of him because he just zones out or forgets to pay attention is one of the funniest things i can think of
From the season 2 food critic episode, the Chinese guy is actually speaking Taishan/Toisan/Hoisan dialect (which is similar to Cantonese). It's the dialect of the early Chinese migrants to the West Coast. I speak the dialect, and I'll try to translate what he says, but some of it is difficult to understand cause of the way he speaks and my ability to translate it into English. "Since I was 12 years old, I've never shaved/cut my beard!" (he says it weirdly but i think it lines up with the way other American born taishanese people speak) "aiyaaaa!" Zack's dialogue then the Chinese guy basically curses them out (the phrase is a common thing said when you're angry and cursing someone out, but i dont know what the English translation for it is) to the best of my ability, he says "(unknown translation of way of dying) die the two of you" The way he delivers the lines in Taishanese is a bit awkward now that I'm actually listening to what he's saying. I never noticed that he was matching the English vibe rather than how it would actually sound in the language. Especially with the cursing of the twins line. The way he emphasizes each of the words doesn't really convey anger to me, and reminds me more of a 10-year-old me imitating what my parents said to my sister when I was trying to express anger.
Can we talk about how weird of a character Mr. Tipton is, sometimes they treat him like he forgets about London and is kind of a deadbeat who only cares about how London makes him look, but sometimes the joke is he is the opposite of what you expect, he loves London and he’s out of his way to attend her school plays
I see it as he’s always busy but the few times he isn’t, he wants to devote that time to trying to be a good father, he’s still better than her mother tho…
I kinda like that. It's maybe not intentional but shows that despite objectively neglecting his daughter it's not his intent solely. He is proud of her and does want to be there for her but in context of the show his failed past romantic relationships with exwives, busy business endeavors, and a pattern of trying to overcompensate his lack of spending time with her by instead buying her gifts I feel makes him a better character. He's very flawed. It seems with his exwives he buys gifts and woos them but he neglects them too and it turns into Mr Tipton and his ex wives despising each other due to him unable to spend quality time with them. As seen in the commercial and boutique ep he even tries to parent London but again his pattern of neglect to focus on business endeavors ends up him just being a bad dad.
i’m happy you mentioned the “man speaking japanese” but also kinda disappointed that no one was able to identify what language he spoke. so he’s speaking a chinese dialect/language from the southern part of china called taishanese. from what i can hear, he says in literal translation, “help me help me!” right before the beard rips. he then says, “you two make me so angry!” as he storms off
Another comment that Kee hearted says he was speaking Cantonese? I'm too lazy to look up atm, but hopefully this boosts your comment so people get confused and so do it for me.
@@hiddenleafdrip3869 taishanese is similar to cantonese, coming from the same province but with slight pronunciation difference. kinda like a heavily accented cantonese is best way i can describe.
@@kerokrystal - Thanks for translating for us, Krystal. Because I was super curious about the language that he was speaking and what he said! Hallelujah for you for speaking multiple languages. That’s amazing! 🤍
Can confirm! He also says "I'm __2 (didn't catch the exact number) years old and have never shaved my beard." Taishanese is a very little known but pretty commonly spoken language by older Chinese immigrants. Never expected to hear it on American TV!
Him describing Caroline Rhea as the mom from Phineas and Ferb and not as the utterly iconic Hilda Spellman from Sabrina the Teenage Witch made me feel so old.
Don't worry too much, I'm 18 and I grew up watching Sabrina myself. He also confused me with that too, considering I've never seen Phineas and Ferb, but regardless I'd never forget about Sabrina. :)
Brenda Song and Macauley Culkin are now married with kids, and I gotta say that beats any FanFiction anyones ever had for this show. Can you imagine how AMAZING that Ep would’ve been in the day? A “late teens” Kevin McAllister arrives at the Tipton and is Zac/Cody’s new role model/bff all the while having a love interest with London? It would’ve been 👏🏻 ICONIC! 👏🏻
48:14 Can we just give credit to what would become the famous Tisdale Scream? From Zack and Cody, to the HSM Trilogy, to Phineas and Ferb, Ashley's scream is one of the most recognizable screams in Disney Channel history.
Having the Finnish nun's names be Huuskonenen is so funny to me, because Huuskonen would be a fairly standard name, but some writer went the extra mile and decided to make a pun that almost nobody would get. A large majority of Finnish last names end in -nen, so somebody decided to look up "Finnish names", noticed a pattern, and decided to run with it. Somewhat similar to seeing a character named John Smithith or Erik Larssonson representing England or a Scandinavian country respectively.
To answer your question of what the "old Chinese man" said, he was speaking Cantonese, saying something along the lines of "What the heck are you doing?! I'm fed up with you two brats!". Hopefully this was helpful, I'm from Hong Kong, big fan od your video essays! :D
Can I just say how incredibly genius it was to replace every instance of the words Lab Rats with the first three notes of it’s theme song? It literally just gets funnier every time.
as someone who went to catholic private school maddie getting in trouble while london doesnt isnt even unrealistic to me sometimes theres just that one old religious teacher that has hated you for years, and theyre probably letting london get away with bs because theyre hoping her family will make a large donation to the church.
I feel Arwin lives both with his mother and in the basement. He stays at his mother’s house when he needs stuff like cooking and cleaning done for him and he stays at the Tipton to have some sense of independence
Yeah, it makes sense that, if he is disabled, he might have a need for a place to stay with other people (just my thoughts). I am almost 22 and live with my dad, but we are planning on doing co-living when I move out, because I need some help occasionally and sometimes you just need another adult who can help you when you crack and can't do some basic things for yourself
I literally heard the original name of the show for the 1st time in this video. In my country they translated it into „there’s nothing like a hotel” and “there’s nothing like a boat”. the confusion is real.
The “up next” transitions with other shows from the time that I’ve literally never heard of made me realize just how many shows didn’t stand the test of time
The 2000s was undoubtedly the golden age of Disney Channel! The theme songs, the catchphrases, the running gags, the celebrity guest stars, the crossovers, the movies, the RATINGS!!! All great things we just don't see anymore with Disney Channel or Nickelodeon. And even now, when they have legitimately good shows, they treat them like they don't even exist! Here's hoping The Villains of Valley View changes things. This show was got me to watch Disney Channel regularly instead of just Playhouse Disney and Toon Disney and I had been obsessed since then. And it's so rare for a show you were obsessed with when you were only single digits hold up incredibly well when it comes to characters, jokes and life lessons!
You’re absolutely right about the ratings. Literally everyone I knew when I was that age was watching Disney channel in some capacity. The crossovers felt like legitimate events with all the hype going into them. There were kids quoting catchphrases regularly. You couldn’t even get a ticket to the Hannah Montana concert. And High School Musical was such a phenomenon that the second movie became the most watched broadcast in cable history. Which is insane. Now Disney doesn’t even try in the cable tv department anymore. They’ll just push out a mediocre live action remake or Marvel show and call it a day.
@@carmenmercedes9903 I forgot to mention Secrets of Sulphur Springs! The show hasn't been renewed for another season which made me nervous. And now there's the writers AND actors strikes which makes me even more nervous. They did the same thing with Raven's Home making the fans several months for a renewal. And I'm hoping the same happens for this show because it's the best live action show running on Disney Channel at the moment.
At 39:30 when Zack wakes Cody up and he immediately asks if they're moving again, I thought that Carrie had previously been in some abusive relationships after the divorce from Kurt necessitating frequent late night escapes. I think it would explain some of the kids behavior of finally being around adults who are strict but care versus prior abusive adults.
I was thinking more like their mom didn't have a stable place for them to live (renting around cheap places, etc) until they found the hotel since their dad seems okay, both of these ideas are sad realities for kids of divorce parents so i think its possible but yea :(
My dad was a trouble making kid in Boston in the mid 1980s. So he loved this show. He'd watch it alone without me or my little sister. He really related to Zack. He felt like they made a show about his childhood. I always thought that was cool. Disney Channel melted that Gen Xers heart
That's a very cute idea. I know London kind of sucks, but her character, at least in earlier seasons is very endearing. And she shows a couple times that she doesn't always MEAN to be rude or unkind, that she's learning or trying to learn how to be better after being raised spoiled and entitled.
rewatching the baseball one recently made me sad, moseby is trying so hard to connect with zack and cody and he's genuinely being so vulnerable with them and it goes terribly for him
Mr Moseby is clearly suffering from some sort of stockholm syndrome or deranged descent into insanity through this entire franchise and Phil Lewis just nails it every time.
Apparently iCarly and Suite Life have conspired to create my entire childhood personality because I have watched multiple hours long breakdowns of both shows and realized I remember most of the episodes in surprising detail.
I am shocked to see how many shows I actually watched in their entirety. And I’m also shocked to see how little of some shows I remember. The VAST amount of SpongeBob lore I have is all from the first 3 seasons really 😂
One thing I'll note is that, due to Carey being a performer, she probably has either a reduced rent or she's allowed to stay there for free. Most hotels and resorts that have a performer move to perform there full-time (as rare as it is) will help to accommodate said performer and any family
i dont know if this was just me but watching these shows growing up made me genuinely terrified for the rope climbing test. so many shows i remember had this test and made me think this was going to be a common thing in my gym class in middle and high school. maybe it was just my school, or by the time i was older they were out of fashion, but i never ended up having to do it. the relief i felt is equivalent to the quicksand fear relief.
This was actually my fear too lol. I don’t tend to think about it because it was such a minor thought in the back of my mind but when I see the rope scene I always think about it. My school never ended up doing it either.
LOL it's funny how this was a common fear because I had this too! I was worried that I wouldn't able to climb up it at all while everyone watches, but none of my schools ever had something like that.
I had to climb the rope in eighth grade gym class but I went to middle school in a small town in rural upstate New York so maybe we were behind the times.
Rope climbing is a *very* old practice in Phys Ed classes. It was like a calisthenics thing. They also had vertical pole climbing and stuff too. Mind you, this is a really really old thing that hasn't been done at school in ages, but I assume the writers at Disney were in school at the time these things were done. They likely projected their disdain for rope climbing into the scripts lol
My high school still had it as of 2016. Actually climbing more than a couple feet was an optional challenge in an already elective gymnastics unit, but it was there.
Not only was the That's So Raven/Hannah Montana/Zack & Cody crossover one of the last That's So Raven episodes aired, but, at least according to the production code, it was the final That's So Raven episode filmed. This crossover would be the last time that Raven-Symoné would play the character for over a decade. That's kinda neat
I'm curious if the reason older shows had more named speaking characters is because of changes with Union protections. Like, maybe the increased rate for named background characters is semi-recent and back then they were able to get away with paying them less. I have no clue tho, just a guess
I totally agree! I wish those types of stats were more transparent. I feel like it’s just as likely that production studios realized that they could save money by having non-speaking background characters and reduced lines on non-main characters just to cut costs and increase profits because they knew they could. Even though most young children prob won’t notice, I think it really adds to the rewatch-ability to earlier disney Channel shows compared to modern children’s media
Or it could be that Disney channel got more $ back then for content vs later on when clearly the channel seemed to hit its peak in terms of growth and streaming has been a bigger priority. At this time when these eps aired maybe it was part of the parent company Disney's model to invest more in these shows and keep growing viewership for children viewers after earlier success with shows like even stevens and Lizzie Maguire with inital fast growth. Hit a plateau and they started reducing budgets? Compare shows like victorious or later live action shows to drake and Josh. I feel it was common to have more interesting side characters at this time across networks. Remember when cartoon network had live action shows. Weird time
I think it has to do with reduced budgets for these shows. The shows nowadays exist just to be something parents sit 5 year olds in front of. Meaning the executives see less potential in these shows for breakout financial success like a Hannah Montana was.
omg in the maddie date episode when it's humid outside you didn't include a line that lives in my head rent-free! when carey is pretending she's the singing chef, she sings "i recommend the creme brulee!" and then patrick sings back, "i recommend you go away!" lmaoooooo
No I won't stand for anything less than Mosby getting the recognition he deserves. He all but raised London from a child until she graduates high school, he took care of her. Made her birthdays special. Gave her advice and generally took care of her for her whole life. Mr Mosby is the underrated hero and father figure to the cast. 💯
Couldn’t have put it better myself, I just rewatched it a couple months ago (amazing timing with this coming out) and so many times during the run even on deck, he really is the kindest of great people to London who might not fully appreciate how amazingly lucky she is to have Mosby there.
Speaking from the perspective of a hotel employee, the beauty pageant contestants would have had a discounted rate for being part of an event group at the hotel. Also the $2000 a night comment could refer to special services guests in certain room types get. I’m sure a standard room rate for that hotel would run around $600 per night but could be lower or higher depending on occupancy.
Yeah that was my assumption to, that the specific perks that they were trying to get were for the 2k a night people. Since he says it in response to max and tape worm assuming that that stuff is free
Yes, from Italy and I remember that one. I definitely not saw it on whatever the Disney Channel was here as it was pay-TV, so when I catch it was out from at least a couple years.
I have definitely seen that episode and I am from the US, I think the claim that it only aired twice may be exaggerated. Interesting that it is not on Disney+ however
Not only that it just becomes a bigger punching bag each show review. Keyan's declining positive opinion on Lab Rats with every Disney show he rewatches is quite the running gag along with every time he says Lab Rats being replaced with it's theme.
@@castform7And It's because of that "Running Gag" that's making it be Impossible for me to take him Seriously as a RU-vidr. Like if you're going to tell us that Lab Rats Sucks (which it doesn't), Then just say so the First time.
@@JRProductions1203 Lab Rats was probably the first Disney Channel show Keyan watched since he was a child. He probably thought that all Disney Channel shows were like this to varying degrees. His review didn't even come off as him praising the show sometimes, with it having more of a "it's so stupid and bad, it loops back to being good" vibe. The he watched other Disney Channel shows, *he* personally thought they exceeded the baseline Lab Rats set and now thinks he gave the show more credit than it's worth.
I love how Mosby's two brothers are so different height-wise. We get a tiny man here and a tall man in on Deck. It's super funny, and even more so how they never reference each other.
I don't think it necessarily costs 2k a day to stay at the Tipton, I think since it's an expensive hotel they assume those guests are going to go to the restaurant, buy room service, etc. so they end up spending about 2k a day when they stay there.
@@tonoornottono fair enough…i mean it doesn’t seem that fancy tho 😂 (that’s prolly not coz it’s supposed to look not fancy…the show is just very low budget)
Something you forgot about the London plagiarism episode is London ends up being the one who has to pay a million dollars in damages: Maddie explains she did just speak the lines while London actually wrote them in her story, the lawyer asks “which one’s richer?”, everyone outs London and she’s given the lawsuit. Mosby is pissed at her too after she confesses she stole the idea from Maddie musing about it.
I remember Maddie saying she'd dance with Zach at his prom. I wish they brought Ashley Tisdale back in Suite Life on Deck as a guest star just for that
I understand why she didn’t…Ashley Tisdale had probably moved on to other things. And Zack had moved on by that point to Maya…although they didn’t last either.
@@cakt1991Hadn’t she gone on to do Phineas and Ferb by then? Still Disney Channel and a one episode guest spot couldn’t have been too much of a time issue.
@@jbcatz5 she had a lot of projects going on at that time, from her own leading role in the show Hellcats to doing the HSM spinoff Sharpay’s Fabulous Adventure to music. If she was busy at the time, she didn’t owe them anything. The Maya storyline was also a great way for Zack to move on, and progress in a way his character hadn’t previously, which has been pointed out in this video.
@@cowboysonfilm Or they were already pretty tomboyish! I gotta say though my queer radar is impeccable, I knew there was something about them when I had a crush on them as a child, I always seem to fall for queer people, before I knew they're queer!
@@PickyPaige ofc it's alright aha :) im trans nb myself, it's hard especially when english isnt my first language too but yeah ofc, please nothing to feel bad about, it can happen a lot to anyone :)) i actually went to check if they still used she/her n you knew that but yeah haha, it was more the tomboy term that caught my eyes too, as that word isnt really used now days which is great because people can be masc without being "boys" associate :) ofc you dont have to change it or anything, i just thought i'd let you know about the pronouns !🫶🏻
I never watched this show, but I have seen some of the funniest sitcom jokes of all time from clips of it. It also has a spin of Yo Momma jokes that I love: "Let me explain it again: "Your Mother" doesn't work as an insult when I'm your TWIN!"
2:23:24 I think the reason there is more paranormal things in later seasons (and in the wider Cody in the House cinematic universe) is because the 2nd coming of Christ happened in an elevator in holiday episode in The Suite life of Zack and Cody. I bet *that's* a sentence you didn't think you would hear today.
I love how Wizards of Waverly Place allowed Harper to grow passed her crush on Justin, that show allowed the characters to evolve well, and found humor in new ways. Zack and Cody just tried to see what’s the funniest things we can get from each character, so they kept Zack and Arwin’s crushes (which I’d argue aren’t the funniest, but it’s memorable)
I’m SO GLAD you prefer London Tipton in season 3 over season 1. Like I know she got flandarized, but this is the only time I love it. Brenda Song’s comedic timing/delivery got better and better
Suite Life exists in such a weird time of the channel’s history. The perfect bridge between the comedy focused sitcom era and the pop star mill era. It’s weird that I remember the hype for That’s so Suite Life of Hannah Montana and I also remember my child self being immeasurably disappointed by it. I’m glad that was a shared experience. Also MoBrosStudios coined the term “Squidward Torture P**n” not MrEnter
It’s also really cool that the majority of these characters perfectly transferred to the next Disney Channel era with Suite Life on Deck (not that slod was as good of a show as the original, but it was amazing compared to a lot of the DC shows that aired along w it)
I don't think I ever actually watched the crossovers. I was happier believing these epic crossovers existed and not knowing parts of them were just normal episodes with a guest star from another show. I did see the Good Luck Charlie and Jessie crossover, that was pretty well done
the bowling episode has permanently stuck with me and my family since it aired. literally *any* time we play bowling, real or wii, and get a split someone will inevitably say "you cannot get zem both"
I miss when Disney shows actually made you care for the characters and made the wacky sociopathic adventures highlight them as they were characters in a tv show. A lot of shows later on to now have characters almost always appear apathetic towards anyone not in the main cast and you'll rarely get any serious moments unless it's at the end of the episode or within a serious storyline. Watching Maddie and London grow close throughout the series naturally and seeing them even share struggles was so beautiful.
Especially when it came time for Maddie to do a guest appearance on the suite life on deck. You could feel how much the characters genuinely cared about her even with all the wacky hijinks
@@empressawesome1655 Back then, when I didn't understand how TV worked, I thought Maddie was full on returning and got so upset she left. Suite Life was one of the few franchises where I really felt both adults and kids/teens were a family.
But it's not a problem with these channels it's a problem with current media habits. Streaming, tik tok, RU-vid, and twitch are taking eyeballs away from watching show on children's channels like Disney channel, cartoon network, and Nick. So to keep some viewers these channels change their content. Or they keep downsizing like Disney shutting down Disney channel in several nations. They move time and $ instead to streaming. And with streaming you're not making content to watch one ep at a time at different times of day or summer marathons or Halloween eps. The goal switches to just provide content to keep people paying once a month. Which means just dump new content at least once a month
@@DayvonR64 this is basically how I felt when watching the finale. For a week after it aired, I thought that they were going to plan on doing a university spin off😭
So in the haunted suite episode: the couple checked in for their honeymoon, the husband went off to war for 3 years and never returned, and then the wife died in the hotel room. 3 year stay in the Tipton? Thats an expensive honey moon.
Fun fact as weird as it sounds there really were "Kids Clubs" back in the early 2000s it was literally just a kid version of night clubs. It was weird but for us kids at that time it was the best place to go.
Why aren't there blimps anymore? Well, the short answer is that they are a logistical nightmare and fell out of fashion. Blimps and airships are terrifying, huge, and silent time bombs and I'm glad they are largely a thing of the past. They're cool to look at and that's why they are prominent in movies and TV, specifically animation, but you may notice dystopian worlds are more likely to feature these terrifying modes of transport.
Its been illegal to use hydrogen as a lifting gas since like the 1940's because of the Hindenburg. Helium has only been used since then and is inert (meaning it doesn't explode). They are starting to make a comeback. The only real thing stopping them is how "rare", read expensive , helium is. Also, there is much debate on whether it was the hydrogen that set the Hindenburg ablaze or the protective skin applied to the ribs which was a mix of iron oxide and aluminum-impregnated cellulose which is also virtually identical to thermite a compound that has a VERY exothermic reaction when heated in any way or form. When you account for popularity Airships are infinitely safer than airplanes. Just saying. Another win for Walter-net and the alternate Fringe universe!!
@@nathanielgarza9198 Yes lets all be afraid of the mostly fabric thing going 90 mph filled with an inert gas and not the all metal thing going 300+ mph filled with flammable jet fuel. You have any idea how hard it is to crash an airship? They are just giant free floating party balloons. If the towers where hit with an airship they would still be standing.
One thing I remember some one pointed out to me was how they broke the cliché of dumb blonde girl and smart Asian girl by flipping it . Breaking stereotypes !
It was defently the right casting choice. All I thought was "it's odd for an Asian girl to be the heiress of an old prestigious American hotel chain. Is she supposed to be mixed?"
@phillipclearman859That's what makes The Suite Smell of Excess such a cool episode, since their roles are reversed and you can see what things would be like. ...Sharpay, basically.
I contend to this day that the "mom said not to run with scissors" line at 3:10:30 is one of if not the best jokes in z&c, regardless of the awfulness of the scene as a whole
2:03:15 Funny you mention how no one brought up potential concerns about the banned dyslexia episode, because when I did a full video on the episode for my channel, I noticed that in the credits, there was TWO Educational consultants for the episode, one even specializing in dyslexia! Really weird that even they didn't speak up about any possible concerns
@ic236 in a different comment someone said they have dyslexia and don't dislike or necessarily struggle with reading, just spelling, grammar, etc., and that difficulty reading is a common but non-essential symptom for dyslexia. And they got a later diagnosis than usual because of the common misconception that it is essential. Since the episode literally hinges on the adults figuring out Zach is lying because he is a competent reader, it presumably wasn't even an accurate portrayal of the condition.
London is objectively a different character in the suite life than she is in the suite life on deck. I don’t wanna say she was flanderized but she just became more cruel and doubled down on hating poor people. Also just became very misogynistic to every other woman she knew.
At one point Disney considered making a Spin Off focusing on Arwin. And even shot a pilot with Brian Stepanik and Selena Gomez as his niece. And considering that Selena Gomez plays a character in the “Midsummer Nights Dream” episode of Suite Life of Zack and Cody, and Mikaela on Hannah Montana, and the fact that Suite Life, Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place all take place in the same universe, Selena Gomez would have like, 4 doppelgängers in this universe.
I gotta say i love the use of the promos between episodes. On a moment to moment level its nice having a buffer between episodes so they dont blend together, and on a larger level it really helps to ground the viewer in the era so they get the idea of what watching the series as it came out was like.
Suite Life was necessary viewing in my house. Every character was fully developed, it wasn’t weird when a side character like Arwin or Esteban got their own episode like in other shows because they were just as important to the cast as Zack or Cody. It was just a refreshing watch, even my parents were cool with watching it (my dad thought Moseby was really funny actually). I still laugh at so many of the jokes in the show, especially when the boys were with Moseby, just a classic grouping on screen. Easily my favorite of any Disney sitcoms, by a massive margin.
When I was like 6 I had a nightmare where Arwin came into the lobby with a bucket and began laying eggs into it and screaming in pain. It's still one of the scariest nightmares I've ever had to this day
I like both Zack and Cody being a bit sneaky in the pilot, and I like London being a bit smarter and more mischievous. It just adds more opportunity for shenanigans to happen, which is fun.
I think it makes all the characters too similar and doesn't create enough contrast, which is probably why they changed it. Like yeah you get more opportunities for shenanigans but there's less you can do from that point onward because the characters are similar enough that their reactions and choices would be the same. Like 'what if we wrote a show about a sneaky and mischievous kid, and his sneaky and mischievous twin, and the sneaky and mischievous daughter of the hotel owner?'. Then Maddie and Mosbey would be the only straight man/responsible one. It wouldn't work as well for A and B plots either because usually Zach and Cody are contained to themselves and maybe one or two other characters so there wouldn't be enough conflict between them as siblings and they'd essentially just be the same person. I think it works better if they have distinct characters with distinct goals, and even when they're goals are the same they have different preferences for how to achieve them. Contrast and the ensuing conflict makes for better comedy.
I think the whistle in the pudding bit in season one is a play on an old Reece’s ad. “You got chocolate in my peanut butter, you got peanut butter in my chocolate “ or something like that
There were a lot of good memories while watching the show, it had a lot of great moments. For some reason, the joke where Arwin invented skateboards and calling them 'Televisions' because he had a vision and he had to tell someome, always stuck with me for whatever reason.
Rewatching all these clips just made me realize Mr. Moseby’s the funniest character on the show, all of his facial expressions and cartoony slapstick movements are hilarious. Just his reactions at 3:52:32 made the scene 10x funnier/
The CBBC show The Sarah Jane Adventures had a really good depiction of separated parents, you could see why they stopped working as a couple yet they were still on good terms for their daughter and the show didn’t shy away from the mother’s more flighty decisions still causing strain and Maria calling Chrissie out on it.
‘besides i’m not sharing a bed with you’ ‘but we’re friends!’ ‘we are siblings!’ i know it’s not a bit but that was funny as hell, this is slowly becoming one of my favourite deep dives, keep them coming please !!!
@@diamondarrow4567 there’s an episode about sexualizing video game characters, and the main girl shows up to her school in costume. While it’s never outright stated there is a very interesting relationship between the step brother Derek and Casey, in one episode they are dance partners. Derek has a raging crush on Casey’s cousin who looks exactly like her, and it’s alluded too that they hooked up. It’s a good show don’t get me wrong as a child I loved it, but now when I watch it back I’m like 😬😬😬. I never shipped the two main step siblings, but I know a lot of kids who were younger then me and didn’t quite understand did.
I’d be into it. It would break new ground as it’s a Canadian export rather than a homegrown Disney show. I always thought MBAV would be the first one of those he’d do but if it’s LWD I wouldn’t complain. I hope this would open the door to Mr. Young one day, and its pseudo-sequel Some Assembly Required (and ANT Farm since they’re all made by the same guy.)
They aired at the same time, but SPN didn't have Kim on until she was already off Suite Life and the boys were On Deck. Kim's character first appears in s5.
I think theres a charm in this era of disney channel shows that cant be replicated again. Obviously I speak with nostalgia but ironically my parents are the ones that speak with more fondness towards these shows. I spent most of my childhood watching Zack and Cody, Hannah Montana, Waverly Place, So Raven, etcetc. My parents were kinda forced to watch most of these but they actually liked them a lot. If you can appeal to both kids and parents, I think your show is successful
The age thing is funny because Monique's character says she met London a couple of months ago (the prom episode) so Maddie and London's age works out but yes the boys are aging faster.
I think it was a missed opportunity to not have that ep after the parallel universe ep to explain the aging difference that somehow the machine makes them age more rapidly?
Its probably because the twins were visibly aging and growing up where as ashley and brenda werent (because they were already 21) so they couldnt avoid having to age zack and cody up but didnt wanna have maddie and london become full grown adults
This video was such a delight, the editing, the old Disney bumpers, and the ghost hunting interlude? Hilarious! Seriously you did a fantastic job. And as a kid I remember being LIVID at the highschool musical episode , screaming at the tv ‘THAT’S SHARPAY!!’
2:28:45 Fun fact: In Dave the Barbarian (can't remember the exact episode), they also had a running joke in one episode where Dave couldn't remember the name of the aglet too. I'm pretty sure this reference even pre-dates this Suite Life reference.
You are slowly (ok actually really quickly) becoming one of my favourite youtubers! The fact that I was thinking today, "I would watch a 5h long analysis of an old disney channel series by Keyan," and actually got it on the same day is amazing
Carrie saying that guy ate all her animal crackers but then saying she was in high school makes me think the animal crackers are actually code for marijuana or something and the writers knew what they were doing.
