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People often choose micro four thirds or aps-c crop sensors to save weight and money. They say image quality is comparable. Can is really match full frame? Especially for video? Let's do a little wildlife video comparison of the full frame Sony a7s III with 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 vs the m4/3 Olympus EM1 III withi 75-300mm f5.6-6.7. Is it a fair comparison? Not really, but it's what I have access to. Who has the better 120 fps slow mo? I was honestly shocked.
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@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
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@mainmain5303
@mainmain5303 2 года назад
Are you watching Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard?
@Visual_Ghoul
@Visual_Ghoul 2 года назад
New Leica 9mm f1.7 is now the best lens ever
@Anon-zl4ne
@Anon-zl4ne 2 года назад
This is one of the reasons why I switched from Fujifilm to the Nikon Z7 three years ago. Full frame image quality is just better. Especially dynamic range and the ability to separate from the background as the same equivalent focal lengths. M4/3 and APS-C are ok, but you get what you pay for.
@snoopdoggty1086
@snoopdoggty1086 2 года назад
Have u used the om1 for video tho
@jamesm5192
@jamesm5192 Год назад
You really went to Antarctica, or joking? Hopefully during the months when there is supposedly 24h sunlight? ;P
@peterreber7671
@peterreber7671 2 года назад
FF is better ... until you realize that once more you have left the gear at home or in the hotel room because you couldn't bear the thought if carrying that equipment around on your casual walk. It dawns on you that having some footage is vastly superior to having no footage.
@SAIDHUMOUD
@SAIDHUMOUD 2 года назад
Then take sony a6000 and Tamron 70-300
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
Exactly. I'd rather take my GH5M2 and Panasonic 100-400 out and get 2000mm equivalent close up videos of ants from 1.3 meters away: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bphT_Hku6Zs.html - Can't do that on full frame, minimum focusing distance limits to subjects at twice the distance at least. MFT isn't better than FF in some situations, but it's more enjoyable to travel with. In short, it's more fun, in my opinion :)
@charliemcgrain
@charliemcgrain 2 года назад
no, either you wanted to get a shot, or you wanted to get a snap shot. You want a snap shot, you have your phone.
@KNURKonesur
@KNURKonesur 2 года назад
If you think that's bad, just think about us medium format film shooters ;) it's a matter of habit and determination. No excuses.
@skyrunr
@skyrunr 2 года назад
Yep, my Z50 with the 50-250DXVR sees more action than my Z7II. ;)
@JustinCase1021
@JustinCase1021 Год назад
"It weighs like less than a foot" is going to be my new measurement for weighing anything
@tiltil9442
@tiltil9442 Год назад
I'm gonna adopt that as well (metric German BTW).
@vampolascott36
@vampolascott36 Год назад
I didn't know anything about digital video until I started watching this guy.
@HeresMo
@HeresMo 2 года назад
I have full frame and apsc Sony’s. Which are my daily drivers. I have the Olympus om1 m2 at home but left my Sony’s on site. Took the Olympus out for the first time in a long time and it was awesome. I loved it. Especially for photos.
@nexxtfilm
@nexxtfilm Год назад
Really like ur videos. U have humor, alternative content like bird stuff, also really professional cams, specs and knowledge. Every time an honor to watch!
@briantierney6992
@briantierney6992 2 года назад
I’m waiting 2 weeks. Then Olympus and M4/3 will be praised again..
@charliemcgrain
@charliemcgrain 2 года назад
One of THEE best videos on youtube, period. I spat out my coffee...and I was drinking tea. Points perfectly made. You may well have just broken irony on the internet. Now I am going to irony my shirt for work in the morning. I subbed. Many thanks.
@b.s.4478
@b.s.4478 2 года назад
HD vs 4K, slow vs fast lens...It's not a fair comparison. You got to make it fair, try an OM-1 or GH6 (specially for video) with a faster lens (then you'll have better separation, because as it is, you are comparing f13.5 with and f6.3 for DoF, at the longest end) @4k60p for example on both, and then we can discuss. If we want a good comparison, we need to be fair from the start. I own both Sony FF and Oly, and i hate Sony's ergonomics. That's also important, at least for me, specially when you have a heavier setup you definitely want good ergo/handling.
@stevelitton
@stevelitton 2 года назад
I use the GH5/GH6 for paid work and also like to shoot a bit of wildlife stuff just while I am out with the family on trips. I find they are really good, just so long as you can learn to work within the limitations of the camera/s. There is no way I could carry around a full frame camera with a massive lens for hobbyist stuff, so for me the GH cameras are great because they are rock solid and the lenses are pretty small and affordable. I don't miss the days of carrying a full frame camera around on a gimbal all day for work, my back much prefers mft. You can't deny there is some really nice detail with the Sony there though 🙂
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 2 года назад
You know the difference because you are a Professional. Many RU-vidrs have no idea!! Very funny to see beginners with huge lenses for hiking and believing that the equipment will help to make better pictures!!
@raedchen1
@raedchen1 2 года назад
so you like selling lack of dynamic range crap photos to your customers. 👍
@stevelitton
@stevelitton 2 года назад
@@raedchen1 Back under your bridge son, I'm not interested.
@TITAOSTEIN
@TITAOSTEIN 2 года назад
@@raedchen1 who told you that? Nonsense! Incredible how the people believe and repeat stupid things like that! Those lab tests shows the limits, but we almost never work with those limits. Look the videos from Ryan Harris with the GH5.
@martafinkelstein
@martafinkelstein Год назад
Lol people get so aggressive with their gear shaming. Even if you use full frame you can still get better dynamic range with medium format. At the end of the day it’s whatever the client likes to see, and professionals will use the right gear for the right job. That said larger formats are definitely way more forgiving in post! Smaller formats are more technical to compose and expose for.
@philsag
@philsag 2 года назад
GH6 is the only option to compare or even dethrone the Sony. Make it happen.
@dtibor5903
@dtibor5903 2 года назад
Yes but then there is the lens difference which is huge.
@raedchen1
@raedchen1 2 года назад
oh yeah. go out with GH6 into moonlight and do some wildlife nightshots with big cats or wolves. good luck.
@TimsWildlife
@TimsWildlife 2 года назад
No, it's the ZCAM E2M4. Prores 422 hq with internal noise reduction. You van shoot in full moonlight at ISO 51200 with great quality. Amazing camera!
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sSUUouBRjMk.html - 8 bit, 4:2:0 glory. Read description. So that's why they learn how to tone map their MFT footage, it even beats 10 bit full frame scrubs. 2000mm equiv handheld.
@dmac8247
@dmac8247 2 года назад
Hahahaha your vid’s literally crack me up man. I love it. Keep it up. Love the Fuji info.
@pgtips4240
@pgtips4240 2 года назад
Please do the experiment with the gh6 and Panasonic 100-400 vs the Sony, the results would be very interesting.
@RedfishRanger
@RedfishRanger 2 года назад
Would also like to see that.
@janbonne
@janbonne 2 года назад
Looking for it on other channels now too ha
@mdd5686
@mdd5686 12 дней назад
at f8
@ZakViemon
@ZakViemon 2 года назад
Try to find a metabones adapter to adapt the full frame lens on the micro four thirds camera. I once mounted a Nikon 600mm f4 on a gh5 with the metabones adapter 0.64 and i got an equivalent of 984mm f2.8 (light gathering capability since the adapter focuses the light since it has glass in it). You dont get the separation of a full frame but you dont get the m43 look either. You are in the middle. You get crop camera separation so it takes you one step futher to full frame. Your 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 would become 320ish - 984 with and f gatheirng capability of f4- f5.6ish and the separation of a crop sensor. There is also the same adapter without te glass in it that would give you the result of m43 separation, but an equivalent mm of 400-1200 but since it lacks the glass element it would turn your lens into f8-f11ish. Metabones are expensive for no reason so i would reccomend getting the viltrox ones. I am sure you are goig to have a lot of fun. Autofocus works with both of them Also you dont lose quality in your image in both scenarios It was really fun playing with the capabilities.
@bigshooter461
@bigshooter461 2 года назад
I think all of the footage you're capturing is pretty good, admittedly the m4/3rds footage does look to be a bit sharp and contrasty, and some of the highlights in some shots do look blown out, I think you might be able to push your exposure a little to protect highlights and you might have to process it a little to get the "cinema" beauty you are aiming for. As a "Photographer" I appreciate the video you're capturing, it is nice to get those exceptional images of increadible detail that capture the beauty of nature, but even beautiful stills fail to capture the behaviour and character you witness watching nature. I covet the video capabilities of the A7s3 even the Fuji, Panasonic and the Olympus cameras have much better frame rates and stabilization than the 5DIV and 7DII that I shoot wild life and landscapes with. The 5DIV only shoots 120fps @ 720p and even then without auto focus. I can honestly appreciate your field tested critique of these tools.
@m.stewart8094
@m.stewart8094 2 года назад
Great vid as usual. Only convinced me more that crop sensor is the best compromise for most people.
@koolkutz7
@koolkutz7 2 года назад
I am still waiting to see what this new Fujifilm X-H2s will look like. And if they announce that new XF 150-600mm lens this year it might be a contender.
@overthecounterintel
@overthecounterintel 2 года назад
I don't know if the difference in quality is result of optics/sensor size or more an issue of compression/bitrate. What bitrate/codec is the Olympus footage shot at vs the Sony?
@srgrohn
@srgrohn 2 года назад
So I had the Sony a7ii with G master lenses and I found the blue tinge in the photos looked like crap. When I got the em1 ii I was finally happy with the quality. Is full frame automatically better? I don’t think so, but then again I’m not a video guy.
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
Can you recommend me a good normal-zoom...ish solution for my new A7III. Is the 24-105 to get as an all rounder, or should i go for the Tamron G2 28-75 or somethinng similar? Hard taking desicion.
@TaleOfTwoIdiots
@TaleOfTwoIdiots 2 года назад
As someone who invested a lot (for an amateur) in Olympus gear between 2015 and 2020 for whom an OM-D is still his high-end camera, I've got say: your video gave me quite a few chuckles. You did get one thing wrong though: I shoot with an iPhone these days, not a pocket Lumix. 😉
@williamvanegmond547
@williamvanegmond547 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, finally an honest and clear review! This helps !
@sutv6754
@sutv6754 2 года назад
I always enjoy you videos and often learn but I'm rolling my eyes on this one.
@jeanmakesgames
@jeanmakesgames 2 года назад
I'm so happy everytime I see one of your notification: I haven't seen the video yet but I know I'm gonna like it :)
@BradsGuitarGarage
@BradsGuitarGarage Год назад
6:34 Olympus has CHOWN to blow out the highlights. Love you, mate!
@WSS_the_OG
@WSS_the_OG 2 года назад
Does the olympus only look that camcorder shitty in 120 FPS mode? Also, isn't there in-camera highlight and shadow compensation you could use even on standard footage that might help a bit with the crushed highlights? I've never had a camera good enough for 120 FPS footage to bother with it, and to jump up on to that Sony to do it is way too much money for my modest use cases.
@jorgem50
@jorgem50 2 года назад
I've been using Panasonic m43 since 2017. Started with G7, then g85 then g9. Last year I invested in two S5s and omg what a difference. I feel dumb for not having switched to full frame long time ago
@Man_Cave
@Man_Cave 2 года назад
"It weighs less than a foot?"
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 2 года назад
I'm 72 years old. Do you think they will have made the perfect camera before they take me away? Or solved the 4/3rds, APS-C, v FF controversy
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 2 года назад
You want to much old man. Even I will not live to see the perfect camera. I am 40 years old. We can always dream.
@dmart1490
@dmart1490 2 года назад
I'm 72 as well and shoot video with MFT and full frame, both have their place in my opinion. The unrealistic comparison in the above is heavily weighted to full frame. D
@scgb5
@scgb5 2 года назад
exactly my observations of using my 2014 Oly EM-10 mk1 vs anything else. I've found the G85 looks good provided you can keep the iso below 1k.
@kapilesh14
@kapilesh14 2 года назад
I know it is early but as Sony is upgrading all its lenses. They should upgrade 200-600 soon and install the XD linear focus motors for fast tracking.
@PB4U
@PB4U 2 года назад
Is the oversharpening still present in the OM-1??
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
Yes, from what I've heard. You still can't lower it in log.
@WORTHITORNOT
@WORTHITORNOT 2 года назад
The Squirrel whisperer is now the Bird whisperer
@truthseeker5890
@truthseeker5890 2 года назад
And turtle whisperer.
@kennygo8300
@kennygo8300 2 года назад
My God! You're becoming Tony Northrup!
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
Correct. Next he will be hunting for f/0.7 full frame glass. Lol.
@Permangor
@Permangor 2 года назад
I get home and see you've put a new funny funny video out in the galaxy. 😁I like to see it when i have to have some time for myself in bathroom, when you need more than 2 min. But today I had to look deep into the toilet, as I became more seasick than when I sailed across the Atlantic into a hurricane, from looking at the handheld 200-600 mm sony setup you have.
@Ulrich.Bierwisch
@Ulrich.Bierwisch 2 года назад
In this cases, the quality comes mainly from the lens. Next important things are the video technology like oversampling, 8 bit or 10 bit codecs, video resolution (HD, 4k or more). The Oly isn't the best video choice and the lens is mediocre. A GH6 with a good lens would perform much better.
@vipersrt30
@vipersrt30 2 года назад
yeah i'd imagine gh6 is more comparable to the a7siii and 100-400 to look better than a 75-300 when put side by side to the sony 200-600
@oo0RECON0oo
@oo0RECON0oo 2 года назад
Are you sure that it’s not just overexposed with a crappy dynamic range? What happens when you expose for the highlights on both?
@houlester
@houlester 2 года назад
The one of the left is singing songs of death and destruction. Lol. Subscribed.
@ryen7512
@ryen7512 11 месяцев назад
Another hilarious video disguising a masterful comparison of just how good Sony equipment is. Thanks!
@JKastle007
@JKastle007 2 года назад
Pure and beautiful out of focus chaos. The sheer panic when you manually pulled focus on that Duck was the most hilarious and honest soundbite I've ever heard on RU-vid. There's a sense of terror that comes over me every time I make the AF to MF switch. I applaud your honesty my friend. Wish more RU-vidr's were like you.
@KPSMUSIK
@KPSMUSIK Год назад
The real question is, what microphone do you use to record your voice in this specific video?
@3dtrip870
@3dtrip870 2 года назад
Did you video the Olympus in log or the flat profile?
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
Log vs Log.
@3dtrip870
@3dtrip870 2 года назад
@@cameraconspiracies right on, good test
@95chrishill
@95chrishill 2 года назад
It's definitely fun to dunk on micro four loser thirds but is anyone surprised a lens that's half as fast and 1/4 the price of the Sony doesn't measure up (let alone the size and weight). Next we can compare $1,200 cameras to $3,600 cameras.
@hellsing0999999999
@hellsing0999999999 2 года назад
Indeed, a 2000$ lens vs a 500$ lens, but I bet the real problem is the Olympus video capabilities at 120fps, those are the same weird colous/oversharpened looks I get with mine at those settings, at 60 it looks great though.
@JM_2019
@JM_2019 2 года назад
Are you guys getting this is irony?
@gaarakabuto1
@gaarakabuto1 2 года назад
The image would definitely improve but the biggest issue that are listed in the video (besides depth of field) are problems that are originating from the sensor's characteristics and limitations not the lens (which to some extend the depth of field thing is also part of the sensor issue, the lens is just showcasing it). The only thing i could criticise the whole video is that, most olympus users can agree that olympus is not about the quality compared to other camera systems, but the quality you get compared to the size and flexibility that system offers. But really do you argue that the same problems wouldn't occure at a well matched comparison of a micro 4/3 system to a full frame system? I'd say the same exact issues would occure with micro 4/3 performing relatively better.
@JM_2019
@JM_2019 2 года назад
FF looked crap most of the time in the video.
@gaarakabuto1
@gaarakabuto1 2 года назад
@@JM_2019 Okay, that's just a bad take.
@dingdingdingdiiiiing
@dingdingdingdiiiiing 2 года назад
This channel is so underrated.
@OutRAjious
@OutRAjious 2 года назад
I’m so happy to see your woodpecker so clearly …
@CameraCombo
@CameraCombo 2 года назад
I think your criticisms are pertinent. However, you're comparing a bad codec on the Olympus to a decent one. It's important to remember that was Olympus' 1st attempt at 120fps. Maybe you should try the GH6 with 4k 120fps and a smaller 600mm equiv.? AF doesn't matter for those shots. That would be a closer fight IMO.
@pierrelaviolette670
@pierrelaviolette670 2 года назад
Codecs make all the difference, forget more pixels, give me better or no compression.
@richaneesh
@richaneesh 2 года назад
Where did the Centennial video go? I didn't get to watch it 😕
@carlmcneill1139
@carlmcneill1139 2 года назад
Thank you for demonstrating that gear does matter. I know there's a lot of pros out there using Sony for wildlife but in my opinion, I think Canon and Nikon have better looking files. If the Nikon 200-600 is like all the other z lenses that have come out, it's going to be a beast for wildlife (no pun intended). Every new z lens has been better than their old f predecessors. I have the money saved up for that lens right now.
@skyrunr
@skyrunr 2 года назад
YES. I've tried the A7R2, A7R3, and A7M4. Each for over a month each with various lenses. I have a background in print lab production and proofing. The older bodies had odd greens and yellows. The A1/A7M4 have a brownish tint to them. All shooting Neutral/Flat profiles with a few lenses. You'll notice this in sample galleries too. However, Sony's JPG's are the real issue. Blues often turn purple and they are nowhere near matching in Lightroom or in other browsers. I have a 91% hit rate with my Z7II shooting sports, but in that 9% last weekend was the money shot. Nikon needs to step up their game. If Nikon offered a smaller updated f-mount full-frame D500 I'd buy t in a heartbeat.
@carlmcneill1139
@carlmcneill1139 2 года назад
@@skyrunr hang in there. The next gen bodies will be astounding. They're getting close on the algorithms for the firmware. The z6ii and z7ii have physical limitations because of the read and write speed of the sensors. All mirrorless cameras have this issue. DSLR bodies don't use the sensor for focus tracking the way mirrorless do. This is why modifier are a bit slower. If Nikon starts putting stacked sensors in their future bodies it will solve a lot of their problems. I would pay extra to get better focusing/tracking with no screen black out in burst mode. I think the d500 will be announced by the end of the year. Canon just came out with 2 apsc models with a high frame rate. Nikon has to answer.
@skyrunr
@skyrunr 2 года назад
@@carlmcneill1139 They better. They almost lost me to the R7. However, AF speed isn't the issue. Acquiring focus is plenty fast, it is staying focused that is the issue. I think they forget that they're fighting smartphones. I also think the pre-recording should be in all cameras to deal with the ML shutter lag. ;) Make it so.
@MrButtons252
@MrButtons252 Год назад
Your olympus footage looks like my tamron 150-500mm on a sony a7iv.
2 года назад
Demon bird was the cinema
@CharlesMurphyphotography
@CharlesMurphyphotography 2 года назад
Never shot a frame of video in my life, but I do like the banter - is that a picture of Dubliner's Luke Kelly on your desk behind? BTW I have an Oly E-M1ii for sale if you're interested :D
@rtgrhr
@rtgrhr 2 года назад
That's Bob Ross right there. A great guy who started painting after he came back from a warzone. Paintings are questionable, but the personality of him was great. He passed btw. one famous meme : 'We don't make mistakes, we make happy little accidents'.
@kalapede1
@kalapede1 2 года назад
For video the Sony looks a lot better. But if you do photos and the background is not very busy with BETTER oly GLASS the difference is small. You can recover highlights and shadows with mft very well.
@RexxReviews
@RexxReviews 2 года назад
"it weighs like less than a foot" DED 1:55
@p_p
@p_p 2 года назад
thanks for providing smiles in this sh1*tty day buddy
@tomaszstramel3594
@tomaszstramel3594 2 года назад
OK, in a somewhat sweeping statement I'll say if you changed you profile [on the oly] to Flat (movie mode > menu > camera menu > specification settings > picture mode = ON; then pick the first of the two available ), your kingfisher and the crow-thing footage would look less cheap, quite surprisingly so, I'd say. It really shines in contrasty conditions.
@PhilNPrice
@PhilNPrice 2 года назад
When I saw the videos at 1:38 I thought maybe they were mis-labeled. To me the Olympus one looks sharper and clearer, Sony looks kinda muddy. Upon reflection (and looking at them again right now) I've decided I don't like either one. Oly is too contrasty, Sony not contrasty enough. I hardly shoot any video so I don't know what can be easily adjusted in post, maybe neither one can be fixed or maybe both can..or maybe just one or the other. You tell me. It's the turtles at 10:50 (Sony) and 11:05 (Olympus) that really make the case for the Sony. Oly is just waaaay too contrasty. But..what happens if you adjust the contrast in the "Movie Options" settings? Maybe it'll still look bad but in a different way. Or maybe it'll look fine. But it definitely seems worth trying. I mean, it only takes a minute, right? Either way it seems odd to bill this as "full frame vs micro four-thirds". I'm not convinced the difference in tone and contrast tells us much about the inherent qualities of the sensor sizes, as opposed to the specific choices about video profiles and such. The one thing that _is_ related to sensor size is the bokeh. If you're shooting at f/4 with the Sony, you'd need to shoot at f/2 with the Olympus to have the same depth of field. Well, that lens you're using doesn't come anywhere near that. In fact, is there such thing as an f/2 long zoom for m43? I don't think there is. As it is, you're shooting at, I dunno, f/5.6 or something with the Olympus, maybe you say so in the video and I didn't notice...as far as depth of field that's like shooting f/11 with the Sony...lots of depth of field, no surprise that you don't get that nice separation between subject and background. Hmm, let's see, there is a Panasonic 50-200 f/2.8-4, that seems pretty promising for getting something closer to what you're hoping for. (As far as depth of field it's still only equivalent to f/5.6-8 on full frame, though. Still, at least it would be a lot better). On the whole I'm afraid I've gotta agree with some of the other commenters on here: this isn't just an apples-to-oranges comparison, it's wormy, old apples that have been sitting in a barrel in the basement for half a year-to-fresh oranges right off the tree. (You're comparing a system with a cheap, slow lens and perhaps poorly chosen video settings, compared to a expensive, fast lens with video settings that are more to your likely). Maybe m43 would also perform badly if you used a faster lens with its narrower depth of field, and if you took twenty seconds to adjust the contrast...I really don't know...but it seems kinda cheesy not to try, and then to claim you're comparing something inherent about differences in sensor size. All of that said, though, it's kinda comical how the Olympus fan-boys are such haters about this. Dudes, chill out. It's no skin off your back if someone does a comparison you think is unfair or that you think is clickbait! Unless you work for Olympus (or whatever the new company is called) WTF do you care? Open a brewski and relax on the couch until you feel better.
@strawhousepig
@strawhousepig 2 года назад
Nobody: I wonder what HD from a $400 telezoom lens looks like compared to 4K from a Saturn V rocket lens. CC: Hold my Fuj I actually just bought that Olympus lens to help replace a P&S megazoom. I wanted to use it to film my kids' marching band. Kid quits marching band. I coulda got a faster prime.
@nicerides9224
@nicerides9224 2 года назад
I wasn't overly impressed by either system. Sure you had better background blur and dynamic range with the sony but the difference in size, weight and price is significant too. There's always going to be some trade-off.
@daehxxiD
@daehxxiD 2 года назад
What I found is that the Olympus E-M1 Mark III digitally sharpens the image if you use the flat or OM-Log profile. That's fine for the 4K modes, but it looks like ass in 1080p and even worse in 1080p 120... I think the cheapness you observed is really mostly down to that and less because of the Bokeh...
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
It would have even less dynamic range in standard profile.
@martinhommel9967
@martinhommel9967 2 года назад
@@cameraconspiracies can you change the sharpness settings on the OM Log profile? Just wondering
@daehxxiD
@daehxxiD 2 года назад
@@martinhommel9967 No, you can't :-/ Found out the hard way...
@w0lfyovi294
@w0lfyovi294 2 года назад
I've used Micro Four Third cameras (last ones was Oly E-M1 Mark III and Panasonic G9) for over 10 years but I switch to Sony a7R II (and had Sony a7C) for the last 8 months. The most disappointing thing about Micro Four Thirds, for wildlife, was the ISO performance above 1.600, the shadow recovery and the fact that black subjects are rendered as a smear with no details left in them no matter how you expose. With Sony I get beautiful feather details and accurate black shades ... and I have a lot of of dark coloured birds here.
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
Easily fixed with Video Enhance AI. Sure, it's nice to get better results in camera, but my Panasonic 100-400 can do something extra for wildlife: focus at 4 feet away, rendering close ups of tiny critters, impossible with full frame wildlife lenses. No free lunch in the universe. I use MFT despite some limitations and give it full frame "like" quality with Video Enhance AI noise reduction and upscaling software for great results.
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
Skill will always matter more. Kasey is trying to talk himself into full frame after the HX-2 fan fiasco. Even MFT is good in the right hands. Ex: Bunnies in 8 bit video, magical color, handheld at 2000mm ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LY11h1Y4e5Y.html
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dM7ej4Nphgo.html - Try getting shots like that with any 100-400 telephoto zoom on full frame, handheld too ... Shots taken at 2000mm equivalent from like 6-8 feet away. That solid minimum focusing distance of Micro Four Thirds is something few talk about.
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
And it's not that your points aren't valid. They are. MFT does have disadvantages. But with Video Enhance AI and some extra creativity I've made it work wonders for me :)
@w0lfyovi294
@w0lfyovi294 2 года назад
@@BackusCreativeImaging It's not that I disagree with you. I don't shoot video at all (yus I am that kind of a pleb :P ) and I use Topaz DeNoise AI for both formats and I used the OIympus 100-400mm f 5-6.3 and Panasonic Leica 50-200mm f 2.8-4. I found that metering for a dark subject slows down the shutter speed a lot and was impacting my ability to get sharp motion and upping the ISO and trying to recover in post would degrade the quality of the details significantly, I would always have to trade one problem for another but never able to avoid both except bright daylight with direct sunlight, not the most flattering look for an image, rarely a weather occurrence in South West UK and limited to the summer months of an entire year. I gave up on Micro Four Thirds with a very heavy heart because I love that system since my Pansonic G1 back in 2009.
@Squidpaws-
@Squidpaws- 2 года назад
Your intros just brighten up my day lol 😂 thank you!
@k3i0
@k3i0 2 года назад
try the old Olympus FT Lens 50-200mm f2.8-3.5 with an adapter and maybe even with a teleconverter. not that light (1.2kg) but pretty cheap and very good optics and more toneh
@jaumeretrogamer1256
@jaumeretrogamer1256 2 года назад
The 50-200 swd Is a true gem with a 1,4Tc. The cons are that is a heavy lens and slow to autofocus on an em1 mk2. But for photos is really really great glass for the price.
@k3i0
@k3i0 2 года назад
@@jaumeretrogamer1256 yes AF is a bit slow but usuable. I use it on the em1 mk1. I do not have the 1.4 but 2x teleconverter. Very cheap and capable wildlife kit for stills
@jaumeretrogamer1256
@jaumeretrogamer1256 2 года назад
@@k3i0 Totally agree, i have the 1.4 and is allwaya attached to the lens, i also buyed the ec20, it's fine but decreases the optical performance. I only use the ec20 for small birds and even for nice "telemacro" closeups. The 75-300 it's a nice lens for the price but it's a lens for hiking or travel.
@k3i0
@k3i0 2 года назад
@@jaumeretrogamer1256 yes wide open it is a bit soft with the 2x but at f8 is pretty good.
@jaumeretrogamer1256
@jaumeretrogamer1256 2 года назад
@@k3i0 Totally agree!
@ncv2103
@ncv2103 2 года назад
I don't think anyone buys an Olympus for video. Could you please do a comparison of photographs?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 2 года назад
If you shoot a Nikon Z9, its sensor and animal eye AF in video will so slay the A7S III, your head will spin. Of course if you think the Sony kit is bulky, wait till you try a Z9 with a 200-600mm, which isn't out yet. Maybe the Z6 II? At least it has animal detection AF in video.
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
Z6 II has animal detect focus in video? In 120p?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 2 года назад
@@cameraconspiracies I don't really know Nikons but I know they added "animal detect AF" in a firmware update in 2020. I can find no information about video AF so far. From the reviews I see, the animal detection is not that great even in photography. Plus the Z6 II doesn't shoot N Log internally and it's only 8 bit, so it's likely not for you anyway. Get hold of a Z9.
@romanpul
@romanpul 2 года назад
@@cameraconspiracies Only up to 4k60. 120fps is HD and single point AF only. Edit: And Z6II animal AF doesn’t work on birds.
@just_dave
@just_dave 2 года назад
That duck flight was art
@d360ani
@d360ani 2 года назад
I my opinion the "cheap look" has multiple reasons and not only the lens matters. The lens + sensor size cause a big depth of field but the high contrast and high sharpnes is in my point of view mostly caused by the video compression. AS far AS I know the Olympus EM1 III records at 120fps only with up tp 50Mbps. Lower framerates like 30, 25 and 24fps and 1080p are recorded with up to 202Mbps. By compareing footage from the Olzmpus with different bitrates you should also see differences in the video quality. Especially when there is a lot of detail in the frame. The Sony A7sIII records 1080p and 120fps with 100Mbps. 4k and 120fps with 280Mbps
@MarkMcLT
@MarkMcLT 2 года назад
And the Olympus records C4k 24p at 237Mbps
@AnimeZone247
@AnimeZone247 2 года назад
a lens won't give you the cheap look. It's all about data. A 1080p image can look better than a 4K image bc all of that is just resolution. What really matters is how much data are they putting into that single image over 24f a second, 50f a second, or 120f a second. A 1080p image with 220mbps will look better than a 4k image with 50mbps. Plus they added way too much digital sharpness to the image
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 2 года назад
I would be curious to see a GH6 with a better lens (smoother toneh). The Olympus is a nice light camera and s very good camera but not a Video workhorse.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 2 года назад
@@FPGVlog yes but I'd like to see a more modern sensor for comparison, with better software.
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 2 года назад
Toneh now tjhinks that mobile phones are the way to go on his channel
@JobyP
@JobyP 2 года назад
Sony is pretty… pretty shaky. I’d rather watch the stable footage.
@cineffect
@cineffect 9 месяцев назад
I have a friend who swears by FF, he drives his Mac truck to film his projects, I walk with my small rucksack full of MFT, although he does give me a ride sometimes...then I help him to carry each lens out.
@christinasmith9032
@christinasmith9032 2 года назад
I love the kingfisher footage!
@EvelynNyte
@EvelynNyte Год назад
You need to rig something up so you can vlog with the sony 200-600. Like some sort of crazy pole with a wheeled support. Just think of the toneh you could get at 600mm 8 feet away at f.6.3
@_benjimouse_
@_benjimouse_ 2 года назад
TL:DW: You get what you pay for and carry.
@rolloffilm1996
@rolloffilm1996 2 года назад
Wow! Having good DR is very cool.
@sandbilly100
@sandbilly100 4 месяца назад
Three of Olympus cameras will focus stack in camera all while using flash very useful when shooting 2 and 4x magnification with virtually no depth of field but anything else its fuji xt5. Thanks for pointing out in a couple of your videos how practically useless the tele converters are. With the high resolution in the xt5 I'm going for the crop and keeping the light I need in the field.
@motomac8392
@motomac8392 2 года назад
this video is hilarious. well done my friend. love your videos always funny and gives a real world look at camera tech.
@ekjellgren
@ekjellgren 2 года назад
PL 9 1,7 incoming?
@basukisugito3275
@basukisugito3275 2 года назад
Why not use Olympus lens with f2.8?
@rogerdodger689
@rogerdodger689 2 года назад
Love your work! What do you think of Sony A6600 with E 70-350mm G lens for sports & wildlife? Only 1.125kg, 525mm reach, IBIS & OSS… Please advise. Thanks!
@danpsharpe
@danpsharpe 2 года назад
"This thing weighs less than a foot". Ah, the best of Toronto right there, keep it classy fellow denizen. :)
@berkertaskiran
@berkertaskiran 2 года назад
I don't like MFT because of sensor size but 4K vs 1080p is not fair. I understand you wanted 120p but still the resolution difference will make big impact. Dynamic range is sure lower tough. I would want to see a comparison in same res. Likely larger sensor will have more details.
@fat_ninja_status
@fat_ninja_status 2 года назад
You shot on film?
@gtretroworld
@gtretroworld Год назад
This vlog went straight over my head after seeing Bob Ross sat there…
@Greys0n_
@Greys0n_ Год назад
I do feel like my current set up of Olympus camera bodies and Lumix lenses has performed exceptionally well, even for wildlife. However, Id say that most of those cameras are for vlogging, with "bonus" features that are closely related to other higher end cameras. Nevertheless, OMDS are inexpensive, reliable and long lasting; also, weather sealed and weight reduced to almost the highest level. Plus, mine came with a free 2 year guarantee for maintenance or return for another camera body -- my only issue with the camera is battery life, but I have 2 batteries, so I expect to keep the camera until the shutter dies. And with that being said, mine has an electronic shutter, as do many newer cameras. That can be used to bypass the shutter function and potentially extend its lifetime. We are criticizing a camera here which has the capacity for something great, but falls short to the best of the best; which is heavy and uses technology that hasn't been innovated at all. Rather, most companies expand in areas which the cameras already perform exceptionally. That's why you were feeling Sony right there, that's cool but gotta respect the Olympus club homie. I feel like the right lens and body combo should be something that you speak on more. love the vids like always, I just caught back up on your channel !
@ammadoux
@ammadoux 2 года назад
try the nikon z50 and nikkor 100-400 combo.
@johnd7564
@johnd7564 2 года назад
That's a step down in autofocus and no IBIS. That said, for fun I've run the Z 800 PF on the Z 50. Good times. With a 2x TC that's 2400mm equivalent. Handholding was not awfully practical, and I need a spotter scope. :)
@ammadoux
@ammadoux 2 года назад
yes no ibis but the lens stabilization is superb and the combo is lighter than olympus omd1 mark 3 plus the 300 mm f4. the cam sucks in many way but i like the results.
@david.stachon
@david.stachon 2 года назад
Hey dumb question, can you do manual focus override with the A7siii? (i.e. if you start using the focus ring, it switches to manual focus?)
@cameraconspiracies
@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад
No, I map a button in the back to switch from AF to MF. It's annoying because in the viewfinder it's hard to tell if you're in AF or MF. The only way to know is the peaking turns on in MF but is hard to see sometimes.
@david.stachon
@david.stachon 2 года назад
@@cameraconspiracies Ah okay. thx.
@samehabouez8267
@samehabouez8267 Год назад
I mean I'm crying because it's true. Thank you for the light.
@neverletthemtameyou
@neverletthemtameyou 2 года назад
wow! Thanks for another great and funny video. Based on this I will deffo get a new lens for my Olympus. Great shots.,
@Squidpaws-
@Squidpaws- 2 года назад
Incredible footage Kasey. That Sony A7siii really is next level. I'm saving up to jump straight from my ZV-1 to full frame lol... I have enough for the A7C and a lens, but not sure if I should just hold on for a while to see what's coming. I think considering my limited FF experience, the jump to A7C would be a good transition. Please help! Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
@kapilesh14
@kapilesh14 2 года назад
At this time I think getting the most advanced Sony camera which is sony a7IV(yes it really is more advanced than A1) will be a better thing to do even if it is a little expensive.
@Squidpaws-
@Squidpaws- 2 года назад
@@kapilesh14 yes I am considering the A7iv, but this might be a bit over kill for what I need. In the long run it may be better yes, but it's a big jump in price and this does even include lenses yet.
@kapilesh14
@kapilesh14 2 года назад
@@Squidpaws- yes that's true. The lenses cost matter as well. But even if you can't afford the sony ones, I think going with Tamron and Samyang will be better. But I can see even that is difficult to do.
@Squidpaws-
@Squidpaws- 2 года назад
@@kapilesh14 if I get the A7C I will try to stick with a lens that has OSS. Better to buy a lens that will hold its value in any system.
@rubinous2510
@rubinous2510 7 месяцев назад
Seeing that m4/3 and somewhat reminding of my iPhone 15 pro footage 😢
@shardanette1
@shardanette1 2 года назад
I bought a Gx9 yesterday. M4/3 lives!!! But I just shoot photos, so what do I know.
@BackusCreativeImaging
@BackusCreativeImaging 2 года назад
Thanks for keeping the dream alive :)
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 2 года назад
GX9 is a great camera, even in 2022. Enjoy.
@shardanette1
@shardanette1 2 года назад
@@joeltunnah Thanks. I am so far as I'm figuring it out. And your videos were among the ones I watched that made me feel OK about buying old tech to do some street photography, which I haven't done in ages.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 2 года назад
@@shardanette1 oh I’m glad I could help! ✌🏻😁
@ChancesAU
@ChancesAU 2 года назад
Heya man, watch all your vids, would love to see what u think of my bird vids, your channel have been an inspiration to me in my little journey in wildlife videography, really enjoy your comedy 😎😎👍
@JimiCanRead
@JimiCanRead 2 года назад
Obviously you didn’t ask me but I checked out a couple of your vids. I really like the footage. Personally I would prefer the natural audio and/or some voiceover commentary rather than the dramatic music. But maybe that’s just me. Might be worth uploading videos with a couple of different approaches to sound and see how the views differ
@ChancesAU
@ChancesAU 2 года назад
@@JimiCanRead All good Kasey never replies to me anyway :D Thanks for that, everyone just tells me "oh its fantastic" so its great to get some constructive criticism. As for the audio, it doesnt record in slow motion unfortunately, I have thought about setting up some mics in the trees while I go around taking videos and then layering it over the top... Would like to do the voice over but I dont know shit about birds yet lol :D Still learning. I could always make up some BS tho just for a laugh :) Anyway thanks again for the reply mate !
@wesb123
@wesb123 10 месяцев назад
I like the part where he says woodpeckers 🤩
@puwpkin1839
@puwpkin1839 2 года назад
Camera Canada lend this man a GH6
@VistarCreative
@VistarCreative 2 года назад
The next video in my algorithm is a 13 year old, pimple-face kid comparing a couple of NASCAR cars after being given the keys by the Make a Wish Foundation. The only cars he’s driven up to now are Mario Karts.
@givebackdocumentaryproduct5981
@givebackdocumentaryproduct5981 2 года назад
Enjoyable video , but I don't think this should be a m43 Vs full frame as Olympus cameras aren't really a first choice for filmmakers where as Sony would be. For filmmaking it would have been more fair to compare a GH6 with the Sony then you would at least have 2 decent codecs or even the BMPCC4K and record the footage with a recorder. Then it would be a decent comparison. Anyway always enjoy your videos.🙂
@keith2599
@keith2599 2 года назад
That's a massive piece of glass....WOW...
@nooddles12
@nooddles12 Год назад
I bring my olympus tough 860 with me and selfie stick if things get heavy
@BibleBreakout
@BibleBreakout 2 года назад
142nd view = adds up to 7. The number of perfection and the Lord
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 2 года назад
Your intro gave me a random thought: how come monkey and donkey don't rhyme? Forgive me, it's really early in the morning. Being cold-blooded, turtles bask to warm up for activity. Spreading out their webbed rear feet expands the heat absorption area so they warm up quicker.
@Knowbody42
@Knowbody42 2 года назад
How come Sean Bean's first and last name doesn't rhyme?
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 2 года назад
@@Knowbody42 STOP IT 😆😂
@fredriksvard2603
@fredriksvard2603 2 года назад
Agree, people go on about how you cant see a difference and that there is no big sensor "look", but... there is a big sensor look. I switched for low light concert photography but its notiveable in daylight too.
@user-hi9yx2ns1l
@user-hi9yx2ns1l 2 года назад
There's only the ugly look, which is having blur background.
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