M4/3 vs Full Frame in GOOD LIGHT

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We all know full frame is better than crop sensors in low light, but what about good light? Is there still advantages to full frame vs micro four thirds and aps-c in good lighting? M4/3 has some advantages over bigger heavier full frame setups. Let's do some comparisons Olympus em1 III with 75-300mm vs Sony A7S III with 100-400mm GM and Fuji XT4 with 70-300mm for wildlife. Don't have the new OM1 or Panasonic GH6 to test yet.
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@cameraconspiracies 2 года назад

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@estraume 2 года назад

You should do a Panasonic GH6 vs. OM System OM-1 when you get your hand on both cameras!

@d-entrecasteaux 2 года назад

Gerald Undone recently said m4/3 is “dead to me” after reviewing the GH6.

@lookylookie 2 года назад

Don’t give up on Olympus!!! We need you

@ryantang8146 2 года назад

I’m so glad that you are probably one of the very few RU-vidrs willing to do side by side wildlife photography comparison between full frame and m43 and find full frame doesn’t always give you an obvious advantage but nobody wants to talk about it because they want to help these full frame manufacturers to keep selling their heavy and expensive lenses when most people don’t really need it and achieve a similar result.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

They’re also paid and flown to exotic places to “test” the Sony equipment. I swear 90% of photography channels on RU-vid are just Sony commercials now. It’s getting ridiculous. It’s also hilarious to see people talking about how tiny the A7whatever body is, that there’s no size advantage to micro4/3, etc… then they put a lens on it that’s 3x the size and weight of the body.🤦🏼‍♂️ Physics is a bitch.

@Arcaged 2 года назад

And yet, good m4/3 lenses are still expensive and heavy (that's also why g9 and other cameras are very beefy but i'll agree that it gives a more balanced setup), and there is not a very large amount of choice, on ff you can take a sigma, pay the same price as a m4/3, sell it for 70% of the price 2 years later, and it would've cost you less than an olympus, that's just a fact.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@Arcaged good micro4/3 lenses are not all expensive, and certainly not compared to optically equivalent FF lenses. Also which ones are “heavy”? Do you think your FF Sigmas are lighter? LOL, physics doesn’t work that way. And I don’t think you’ve checked eBay, but used micro4/3 gear isn’t losing value. Look I have nothing against FF, I own a Z6ii, but you’re just wrong on every count here.

@Yodd Год назад

He is not testing photography tho. M43 is still worse than fullframe in most cases. It depends on the camera and what you are using it for.

@ryantang8146 Год назад

@@Yodd I own both system and have been shooting them for the past 10 years. If I’m traveling and don’t need absolute image quality, I would take m43 all day any day. Full frame for portraiture is great but for everything else, it needs to much accessories to get good results when m43, you only need a camera and a lens to do most things.

@gjune36 2 года назад

Remember, most of the classic great films were filmed using an aperture of f/5.6 - 8. Which is easily achievable on m43 f2.8 - 4. And if they needed more separation, they used short-telephoto lenses

@artistjoh 2 года назад

I started MFT with the GH1 back in 2008. The14-140mm was the only easy to get at first, but slowly new lenses became available, the 20/1.7, 45 macro, 7-14/4, Voigtlander 25/0.95, and so the collection grew, but after the GH2 I wandered off into Canon, eventually Sony. But then, 13 months ago I sold up most of my Canon, bought a G9, went back to MFT lens collecting. I am loving my return. Love the Olympus 100-400 tele, loving the Oly 60 macro, loving the Sigma 1.4 trinity. Agree with you - MFT for the win.

@shzammpatapon9865 2 года назад

i love my sony a7siii, i can't ask for more. it's GOAT.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

The G9 is a joy to use, as a hybrid shooter, but mostly stills.

@artistjoh 2 года назад

@@joeltunnah Can't agree more. The G9 is the most delightful camera I have ever used. It just feels right in the hand.

@janstrandstrom6495 2 года назад

Agree, sold all my FF gear and super happy with my G9. And the small tiny light lenses... My bag is light, sometimes I forget that I have stuff in it.

@filippotobbiosteopath3943 2 года назад

Do you use panasonic g9 for bird photography? what do you think about this use? do you prefer oly 100-400 or panaleica 100-400?

@JoeMustang99 2 года назад

I use a Sony A1 for landscapes, low light, and most indoor events. I shoot everything else with Olympus m43 bodies and lenses. I use the Olympus gear much more often than the Sony because of the weight and size advantage. I just enjoy shooting with the Olympus gear more.

@lookylookie 2 года назад

Same

@chunkylover54 2 года назад

I just wish the prices would come down. Still rocking my m5mkii

@MicroFourNerds 2 года назад

M43 really shines at the longer focal lengths. And as you say, 95% of the time we are either in good light, or lighting scenes ourselves to make scenes correct. And I also agree that too shallow depth of field in wildlife specifically sucks. Too many tonehs and it looks like you have taken the bird to a photo studio because the background loses all context. (Ps I am watching this in my Toneh shirt haha) Edited to add: lenses have to be STUPIDLY sharp on m43 because the small sensor picks up everything. It’s why full frame lenses look awful on m43 unless you use a speed booster 🤓

@andresgonzalezcerda7635 2 года назад

Nice to see you here!’

@CameraCombo 2 года назад

You rock Emily! Nice to see you back. Can't wait for more of your content.

@tech-utuber2219 2 года назад

Interesting in that you were able to snag a GH6 for review but Kasey could not.

@l.d.t.6327 2 года назад

it's the other way around for nature photography (e.g. birds): 95% of the time, you are in suboptimal light, with light out of your own control.

@LexTNeville 2 года назад

well, stick say the 15mm f1.7 on and just take family photos or whatever. Camera in one hand, champagne in the other. M43 is the best.

@lookylookie 2 года назад

Totally agree, I use both systems and with the OM1 release I will now sell my Sony gear. Been waiting for the day I could do this and finally I’m convinced I can confidently go all out M43

@jdam28k 2 года назад

Based

@richaneesh 2 года назад

You sold already?

@lookylookie 2 года назад

@@richaneesh haven’t received the OM1 yet to totally make my mind up as I will compare one against the other. My gut feeling is it will be OM1 all the way

@gramulho1 2 года назад

You are the only one to blame for Toneh obsession! 😛 Recently I swapped my Sony a6500 for a Sony a7iii thinking it would be awesome. Sure there are some features that makes life easier, lenses are better, but for instagram and RU-vid, there really isn’t any difference. It is so much harder to work on a gimbal, it’s heavy as f*, it is so much expensive. I also have regrets! Oh the money spent! 😭

@gamebuster800 5 месяцев назад

Get a 200-600 on that A7III and it will give you much better results than the A6500 with 70-350G

@MaikKellerhals 2 года назад

"is this good content?" - Yes, yes it is! And that's getting rarer (or harder to find) on RU-vid by the day ;)

@Red35Photography 2 года назад

LOL! So all this time I thought T-stops on cine lenses actually means toneh. Refreshing. But Tony would disagree, he loves toneh, he's addicted to it, he now needs double or triple dose all the time, it's best that you can't even tell where he is. And I believe you, Tony is an artist, because loves only one thing in focus at any one time.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

Tony is a mimbo shill.

@Jason45G 2 года назад

I can hand hold my Olympus for 2 seconds. So for me, the low light advantage does really not matter. I have used my Olympus gear for just about everything you can think of, and I have never missed the shot I wanted due to low light. The again I have never shot in cold dark cell's under a city. But if I did. I'd bring my flash. I'd like to see you get your hands on a 40-150 with a teleconverter. The 1.4 only gets it to 210mm but still has the field of view of 420mm. Sharpest lens I own. I think you'd love it. Glad to see someone else realizing what many of us have know for along time. M 4/3 gets a bad rap.

@erichramone7812 2 года назад

What if you have too shoot fast moving subjects on a super cloudy day?

@luizz_k 2 года назад

Sure the stabilizer works for a bit. Until it gets dark, and it gets dark pretty quick. Afterwards no ammount of low shutter speed help those horrible shadows.. Hopefully this is vastly improved with the om1. ✌️

@TheRoadrunner11 2 года назад

Good on you for listening to our comments and testing the T-stops equivalency. I follow this channel just because you're honest ^^

@majik2465 2 года назад

Great comparison of full frame to Micro 4/3rd's. In good light , no reason not to use the advantages of micro 4/3rd's weight and size advantage. Loving the new Olympus OM-1-it rocks!

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 года назад

Hey Barry, another great vid. Thanks!

@mohammedabbas7776 2 года назад

I love that you don't take yourself too seriously. Makes your videos much more watchable than the usual camera vlogs.

@OttoRascon 2 года назад

I love your points on major motion pictures. Those movies never have a hyper shallow DOF. It's a rare scene that calls for blurry backgrounds. We are all obsessed with f/1.2 lenses and think anything else is inferior. Thanks for having this conversation.

@sanderbos 2 года назад

That is actually a part of the video I completely disagreed with. Here's a video of famous movie quotes: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QUjxsuGwTA8.html Watch and only focus (pun intended) on the background, don't pay attention to the actual quotes or the foreground. I would say in about one third of the clips there is no real background, in about one third the background is sharp (there is this clip halfway through of Forrest Gump which must have been shot at F/20 or something), but about one third has blurry backgrounds, and in many cases like Toneh like blurryness).

@OttoRascon 2 года назад

@@sanderbos I totally hear you and love blurry backgrounds myself (Sony a7iii shooter). I'd argue that those lenses aren't f/1.2 lenses that's for sure. Blurry BGs are a tool to use for story telling, subject isolation, and on and on. It's not the end-all-be-all most important part of a lens. Hey, we live in a glorious time of having so many amazing cameras and lenses at our disposal. We just need more stories 😉

@vlcheish 2 года назад

Shallow DOF without a real reason for using it is completely overrated and most movies that rely on that are indie ones that have to hide the background because of low budget. With that said advantage of large format for movies is the ability of using higher focal lengths closer to the subject. For example with Joker they specifically said the ability to shoot higher focal lengths indoors close was a big reason for shooting it with an ARRI 65(larger than full frame). The ability to have a 50mm lens and have a wide FOV is pretty nice. And when going to an extreme like IMAX then it's again giving the ability to use a 80mm lens with a 39mm fov is incredible. Thats why IMAX has such a different look being closer to real life because it removes the distrotions from lower focal lengths with insanely high fidelity.

@OttoRascon 2 года назад

@@vlcheish Great points!!! Know your gear and create!!!!

@gjune36 2 года назад

@Sander Bos Doesn't change how most of them are shot at f8. The blurring from most of them are from the use of short-telephoto lens

@InvertedHermit 2 года назад

I’m glad you did the test yourself, so many RU-vid “professionals” don’t seem to understand this. The other misconception is that bigger pixels are better for low light & noise etc. Again, it’s the same surface area whether it’s split into multiple pixels or 1 bigger pixel, its going to be the same. And the noise is less overall but more pronounced, making it less pleasing. Bigger sensor and more pixels is always better. Only drawback is you need a shit load of processing power to process all that information for video, autofocus etc.

@FlatWaterFilms 2 года назад

Especially if your using the 5D IV.

@michaeld5888 2 года назад

So you are saying the dead space on a pixel split into 4 pixels is the same. I find that difficult to believe as 100% of the pixel area is surely not actually absorbing useful light and creating more dead space subdividing the pixel each with its own surrounding dead space is likely to decrease light plus each with their own circuit generating noise. Can you specify exactly how you reach this conclusion of no difference? Pixel chasing with compacts was obviously pure marketing in compacts trashing performance but looking good on the box at the point of sale and I am yet to be convinced this has changed one iota and not just shifted up market in what little is left of the industry, after their continual bad marketing overriding engineering decisions.

@DonVetto-vx9dd 8 месяцев назад

@@michaeld5888I think A74 and A1prive it wrong. Even Venice and Burano proved dead space between pixel theory wrong. Low light ability has nothing to do with pixel size. It has everything to do with sensor technology and processing.

@MikeC2K10 3 месяца назад

@@DonVetto-vx9ddIf it was all about pixel size, the new 60MP full frames would be as noisy as 20MP M43, because the pixels are the same size in both. Still, larger pixels have a higher signal, because they collect more photons, so S/N starts off better, but signal processing is very sophisticated today so it's not as huge an advantage.

@BrandonSoum 2 года назад

15:44 From there on out I could not contain my laughter, my goodness, the entertainment value from Kasey is too glorious.

@randelcooprider6013 2 года назад

Liked your video and examples shown. Amazed that my Olympus OMD Em5 (maybe original version) is as good as it is in comparison to APS C. I have the Panasonic 4/3 100-300 zoom and it handles nicely on the Oly with the IBIS.

@azjoe_6310 2 года назад

Coming from full frame I didn't have huge expectations for the 75-300 but it presently surprised me in every way. Somehow M43 lenses sure nailed the quality.

@joseangel81081 2 года назад

Tengo una EM1 Mark III y uso el Lumix 100-300, mayor calidad que el m.zuiko 75-300

@garybrown9719 2 года назад

Best micro four thirds video in 10 years of watching screew tube

@sasca854 2 года назад

Exposure is the same on FF and M43 for a given F-stop (give or take for T-stop variance), but your effective depth of field when creating a comparable composition on M43 is twice as wide due to the 2.0 crop factor of the sensor. So when people say "you need to double your F-stop on M43 to get the FF equivalent", they're half right-- but not for the reason they probably think. Cropping your sensor has the effect of zooming in on your subject. Due to the 2x crop factor, a 50mm lens on M43 is _compositionally_ equivalent to a 100mm lens on FF. You primarily have two ways to achieve the same composition as on FF: Decrease focal length, or increase the distance to your subject. Both will widen your depth of field. The only parameter left to shrink your DoF at that point would be to widen your aperture. (This is why people say you need to treat M43 lenses as having half the aperture value as a comparable FF lens, even though the aperture isn't what's responsible for the widening of the focal plane.) Because widening aperture makes your image brighter, however, you'd need to reduce ISO or increase shutter speed to compensate. If you're already as low/fast as you can go, then an ND is your only hope. If you don't have one, you're out of luck. Conversely, if you were already shooting wide open in the first place, then your only hope is to buy a lens with a wider aperture. If that doesn't exist, you're out of luck. There are tools like focal reducers, teleconverters, etc. that make this a bit more complicated, but it all eventually boils down to balancing a few parameters to get a given composition.

@JetBen555 2 года назад

The AS3 is a strange beast, each picture profile have two different base ISO and anything outside of base ISO looks really noisy. So in a sense it works more like a cinema camera.

@wymanair 2 года назад

THANK YOU for pointing out that not everything under the sun should only have 1% of the total frame in focus!!! The bokeh conversation is soooooo played out. Folks spending $3k for a portrait lens so everything is at f1.2 when every portrait we have ever seen in our younger years is f5.6-f8……. 🤷‍♂️ We can Control depth of field with focal Length, and physical distance between subject and background far easier than limiting ourselves to just a single aperture……..

@jonware2284 2 года назад

Excellent point Casey. You are the third person to point out the lower noise floor under ISO 12800 for Micro 4/3.

@NotFromConcentrate 2 года назад

Your videos are so entertaining. Thanks man

@1ShotTV 2 года назад

It pisses me off that if i want little to no bg blur on my a7s3 I have to switch to manual focus. Anything over f/8 & it starts pulsing & breathing like crazy. The ZV-1 or a Cell Phone can achieve that look no problem.

@Yupthereitism 2 года назад

It’s the size of the sensor. The larger the sensor, the more light and more background blur

@petouser 2 года назад

PDAF works around F3.5 to 6 the best, so if you get supet high, fails.

@WMedl 2 года назад

@@Yupthereitism No, there is the same amount of light per area as FF gets four times the light of MFT for equivilent settings BUT for FOUR TIMES the area to expose. And the difference of DoF is due to the imaging scale (crop factor). As Ken Wheeler pointed it out several times: on an exposure meter there is no setting for film or sensor size!

@KnutIvarSkogland 2 года назад

You usually make me smile, but during this one I actually lol'd. Thank you!

@RockWILK 2 года назад

I found a Sony 55-210 OSS lens for $100 brand new, and so I bought it, even though every review I had ever seen completely trashed it, and it's one of my favorite lenses. Also, people compare the sharpness of lenses all the time, but then they go out and spend $85 on a vintage Russian lens that many Hollywood films use. It's all subjective, as people often say, sometimes photographers want what they want, not what they need. :-)

@Jadeddave 2 года назад

Awesome video. Agree that there’s too much of a fascination with bokeh, and that it is often used as a replacement for actual compositional or cinematic quality.

@armpauloferreira 2 года назад

OMG! The fact is that he is again with some love to give for M43 systems and he really find a point here less debated.

@charliejg 2 года назад

I like the eagle flying off of the leaning tower of Toneh in the mirror..... Good video and love the 4/3 footage...

@ElusiveFrame 2 года назад

Thanks. I needed this. 💪 It's so easy to follow trends and feel discouraged when in fact the m43 system is superb. 🤩

@ionrazvan126 Год назад

No man, nooo go buy the canon r6 and it will burn in your hands with your hands when recording, but it s a cool camera. Every time i look at canon specs from now on i kinda divide them by 2 to make sure

@PhilWare1 2 года назад

I switched to Panasonic m4/3 years ago purely for the reason of having smaller/lighter bag to carry around with no appreciable degradation in image quality.

@JoATTech 2 года назад

For wildlife (amateur or semi pro) that does not make much difference in photo quality if light is good (but it's so much lighter) I love my Panasonic 100-300 II OIS.

@excalibro8365 Год назад

@@JoATTech Late reply sorry lol. Also the fact that you can hold it handheld and walk around looking for birds is the biggest reason for me. I shoot birds around the river near my house, and sometimes i come across other birders lugging a ff camera with a huge lens on a tripod often staying at one spot for a long period of time waiting for birds to come near while i'm already far ahead shooting other birds.

@giannagiavelli5098 2 года назад

great review mr. veg. seriously I'm in awe of the video on the pana s5 full frame. its just sharper. waiting for a pana g10.

@stradastudio 2 года назад

Interesting video as always, Just as I'm thinking of parting ways with micro 4/3. Nice tracking on the hawk gave it some context with the trees in the foreground be interesting to throw some post image stabilization on it to see what happens to the foreground trees, if not already done.

@markrhodes5474 2 года назад

Brilliant video love your humour and presentation

@toke7560 Год назад

Thanks, you really brighten my day. My wife shouts up the stairs, what are you laughing at.

@Atomicjedi 2 года назад

That eagle in the foreground going to the background becoming TONEH in the mirror, dude... ART

@georgebutton7490 2 года назад

Hey the great vegetables polish:) just kidding:) loving your work! Please could you help and confirm which camera setup you are using? Are you using Fuji or Sony? Do you recommend Fuji x-t4 with 16mm 1.4 or Fuji x-tx4 with 50mm 1.0? Or is the Sony a73 with 50mm 1.2 better for video? I already have Sony a73 and canon 5dmark 4. Love the Fuji autofocus when you move in up and down in your videos :)

@helloitsbas 2 года назад

You‘re on fire in this one 🔥🔥

@MovingPicturesAfrica 2 года назад

Very sensible comparison. I think most wildlife is shot on S35 sensors, so somewhere between m4/3 and full frame. Also, snce you won't use a tripod, have you considered a shoulder rig for your wildlife stuff?

@DocDealgood 2 года назад

I also love the Canon EF 70 - 300mm IS Mark II on my Canon M6 Mark II. Actually a very good combo.

@officialtiimo 2 года назад

Definitely for video and when you're shooting in good light and low shutter speeds the full frame image quality advantage is much less noticeable, especially on a camera like the a7S III where it has a heavy AA filter and 4k is not downsampled at all.

@keithnisbet 2 года назад

I'm looking forward to your real world view (not review) of the GH6 when you are able. i have been wrestling with the FF vs. MFT thing for a while now but still feel MFT (currently G9) is where I'm likely to stay. As you mentioned, great lenses, more reasonable pricing and more manageable size/weight. Plus the build quality of my Lumix camera still amazes me.

@fredio54 2 года назад

"M43, it's so small, it makes it fun to bring with you everywhere you go." < nailed it. I bought in with the GF1 and first gen 14-140 about 12 years ago when there wasn't anything else in the ball park of M43 and took it everywhere all around the world and shot 45k 12MP photos with the thing. Now my goto camera to just grab is either my GM1 or GM5 with the new-gen version of the same lens, or the 14-42 PZ if I want smaller or the oly 45 or leica 15 or whatever if I want brighter for darker. Only pick up the GX9 when the photo really matters and only pick up the GH5 for photos when it's super telephoto and dark as the IBIS is better and the low light better too. GH6 on the list when the price drops a bit, I think. Some nice stuff in there and the background focus shimmer is basically invisible because it's on/off every frame, ie, 50% frames in focussed in and 50% focussed out - so it just looks like the average of those when you watch it.

@sdhute 2 года назад

Once you try M43 it's hard if not impossible to leave

@gregorychernalis1958 2 года назад

Great job with lots of twists explaining the camera and lense differences.. I'm interested in the new OM1 and you clarified alot of questions I had...you present the facts in a unique way and avoid all the nonsense other channels do... you and Theo are 1&2 in my book... keep up the good work..

@Princeton_James 2 года назад

I did my own test last night on my A7iv vs my G9. Freaks will stone me because they wouldn't believe that the G9 looks as good or better. The G9 is the best handling camera ever. It is what it is peeps. Find what works for you and be happy.

@Yupthereitism 2 года назад

No lol, just no

@cheeeeezewizzz 2 года назад

@@Yupthereitism Yes, just yes. G9 looks fantastic, just like the Sony looks fantastic. Only a psychopath blows images up to the pixel level and obsesses about the image quality at that level. Its seriously a sign of obsession and mental illness.

@jf9979 2 года назад

Ive heard great things about the G9 even for 2022. I hope they release a successor to it though.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

“The G9 is the best handling camera ever.” Yes it is. No debate.

@NeoDon1 2 года назад

I was waiting for you to freak the funk out from the construction noise, LOL

@mk1photography62 2 года назад

Totally agreed 😃. I have a G9 and use it for bird photography and it's awesome

@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 2 года назад

I’m loving this wildlife venture

@9ramthebuffs9 2 года назад

when you get seriously close to a raptor you start questioning whether or not it will let you keep your eyes. I once stumbled across a couple of golden eagles banging, like 6 or 7 feet away from me. it was majestic. I kept my eyes.

@kovmenius 2 года назад

Let's be honest - the main difference between M4/3 and FF is not the weight anymore, but the size. The size actually makes so much difference that you can put in your photo backpack like 8 lenses for M4/3, while you'd be able to get only 4 equivalent lenses of FF.

@garybrown9719 2 года назад

For example Sony 70 to 200 olympus 40 to 150 = 80 to 300

@kovmenius 2 года назад

@@garybrown9719 that M.Zuiko is a literal pocket lens compared to Sony's 70-200 lmao

@Durio_zibethinus 2 года назад

I love pancake lenses, they're small and versatile, even on fullframe mount. But I have to remind myself if I want to rent a telephoto lens someday. I'm a small size human, not gonna do it on the fullframe.

@borisnemet 2 года назад

why would you need 8 lens??

@kovmenius 2 года назад

@@borisnemet you wouldn't, but it was faster than writing what all you can put into that backpack instead of having it just full of camera gear

@jayclas4023 2 года назад

You are the man my friend!

@sstansm7f 2 года назад

Nice comparison!

@jaumeretrogamer1256 2 года назад

The 75-300 its really good for the price and the cost/ratio. But my personal preference for wild life is the 50-200 swd 2.8-3.5 it's heavier 1,1kg aprox. But the quality is stunning, and you can add the ec14 or even the ec20. And is an absolutely bargain for amateurs like me. I love your videos, keep on this good vibes.

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 года назад

Im new to all this but am looking for a m4/3 cam Hollywood would use. Which one would be best?

@ml.2770 5 месяцев назад

"Your mom's blown out." I'm dead😂

@Bolton115 2 года назад

M43 keeps on showing up tough! I'm considering the OM-1 over the rumored X-H2.. I won't be able to afford either one til summer, so they'll both be available to try before I buy. I have an OG E-M5 that still works, from 2012, and I have a pair of X-H1s, so I'm familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of each format. Still though, the new Olympus looks enticing since I don't print 40x60" as a matter of course. Great video, you're an excellent wildlife shooter.

@temujen 2 года назад

Did you make a decision yet?

@Bolton115 2 года назад

@@temujen Actually leaning towards OM1. They are both PASM flavor, but I really like the twin top dial Olympus way versus the wheels of others. Loving the Fujifilm colors, but if I'm gonna pay big for PASM then I might as well get smaller and lighter.

@temujen 2 года назад

@@Bolton115 Awesome - I just got the OM-1 myself, and this is my first “real” camera so I’m really loving everything it can do. The size/weight, IBIS and autofocus were all the key factors that led me to the OM-1.

@Bolton115 2 года назад

@@temujen Rad! Have you shot any concerts or other low light events?

@temujen 2 года назад

@@Bolton115 Haven’t had the opportunity to film/shoot low-light yet to be honest. Just been taking pics and video of the family out and about since it’s summer, and we’ve been traveling.

@petermclennan6781 2 года назад

You're right about "old men". My Z6ii with 24-200, while very capable, sits on the shelf. It's just not fun. FF is good for big prints, big crops and impressing DP Review readers. Not much else. An 800mm equivalent is going to test your hand holding skills to the limit. Not just stabe, but target acquisition. My RX10 IV was 600 mm equiv and that was tough enough. Like you, I wish I'd not sold it, but MF wasn't possible and AF was inconsistent. A bad combo. Congrats on following that hawk through the trees. Excellent! LIke the owl, which was beyond.

@jooyoonchung3593 2 года назад

That’s a straight up lie and you know it. There is absolutely no way to impress DP Review readers. :)

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@Peter, have you tried using some old Nikkor manual lenses on your Z6ii? I have a bunch of Nikkor AIS lenses from my film days, and the FTZ(ii) adapter. It brings a bit of the fun back to it. With the Z6ii big beautiful EVF I don’t have any trouble focusing, even with my poor eyesight. But yeah, if I had to pick one system: easily micro4/3.

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

@@jooyoonchung3593 dpreview is one of the circles of hell.

@petermclennan6781 2 года назад

@@joeltunnah I have, Joel. My 55mm macro performs well with this body. The camera also performs well, in general, especially with the 24-200. As a Nikon DSLR user since the D70, I think I'm just done. My current fun cameras are my Samsung phone, which is amazing and always available, and a pair of DJI Osmo Action cameras.

@MichaelGerrard 2 года назад

Finally, you've seen the light, literally! 😁😉

@Photovintageguy 2 года назад

Dpreview took an Olympus to costa rica for some wildlife photography and video. "Olympus E-M1 III hands-on initial review" That completely changed my mind. It would pefect for travel.

@leftylinky8826 2 года назад

In my humble experience, m4/3 only fails me if I need to stop motion in low light - I’m still using the ol Em1ii though - might be better with the newer cameras. Besides that I’ve loved using my Em1ii and 7-14, 12-40, 40-150 f2.8s.

@MasterSekeyi 2 года назад

What kind of motion do you want to stop? I'm casually shooting street at night with iso 1600-3200 and f2.8 and it works just fine for people walking or running

@JoseSantos-uc8cl 2 года назад

Have you tried using spot metering? Lock and record.

@mikaleppaaho 2 года назад

I've made the same conclusions as you. And I've went from APS-C to full frame with all the bells and whistles that I did't wan't to carry with me. After a year not taking that many photos because not carrying the weight all the time with me I went back to APS-C but this time mirrorless. I think with APS-C or M4/3 you get the full benefit of the mirrorless weight loss. I have Nikon Z50 with the 16-50mm and 50-250mm and while the body isn't or at least wasn't necessarily the best possible for the money, those lenses are. Super compact and lightweight and the sharpness amazed me. That combo by the way is only about one kilogram and fits to a fanny pack. Z50 itself is also small and lightweight (wheighs less than many m4/3) but with really good grip. I'd say it's been the most enjoyable camera for my use.

@ryantang8146 2 года назад

I sold my G9 also opting for an OM1. In good light, the image quality is less obvious.

@BOOT 2 года назад

8:21 I was like did that Tree say something LOL

@chinitopinoy1726 2 года назад

It’s cool to see the 300 fps in the GH6 is 10 bit and not cropped. I wonder if they can give us 480 fps cropped and 8 bit in a firmware upgrade. 👍

@libork8106 2 года назад

Great vlog. I am not sure what problem Tony has, but f4 is still f4 on any lens (MFT or FF) But when you add teleconverter 2x you do lose 2 f-stops on either lens. With 1.4x teleconverter you lose 1 f-stop. I do have both systems and yes Olympus has very sharp lenses. Also I am one of the oldies so I use the Olympus much more often. When we hike each gram become kilogram after while. Is there any Tony's conversion that too ???

@animatoronline8336 2 года назад

THANK you for this. Everyone has bought into the FF system because of this perceived perception of "Cinematic" meaning blurry AF background and dungeon level low light performance. There are more advantages than disadvantages to MFT, especially with the release of the GH6. The pixel to pixel option on the GH6 means you can buy what can effectively be an 80-450 f2.8 lens for $1500 with the Olympus 40-150 Pro

@phis.750 16 дней назад

I know this is a 2 year old video but I am gonna comment anyway. I just got my first camera a few weeks ago and I am very happy with it. its ten years old, cheap. its an Olympus M4/3 I think it takes good pictures. Serious photographers with NatGeo camera gear probably think its crap, but I have mine, they have theirs.

@knowyouryoga 2 года назад

Now that you're into wildlife I'd be happy if you tested Sigma 150-600 dg dn and Tamron 150-500 for the Sony. Gonna help me make a decision because can't spend 2000 $ on sony 200-600 😁

@andrewbatchelor5498 2 года назад

Love the homage to Bob. I shall continue to have happy accidents with the new OM1 Combined with the 150-400pro. Try that with your owl. Going to Amazon soon 🙏 I speak as an old one about my Olly He ain’t heavy he’s my 😎

@bennettjames16 2 года назад

I was wondering this. I have never used a professional camera. I am getting into it only because I have things to create. Every video I watch to learn keeps going on about shallow depth of field. But I am just starting to ask, why do I want most of my shot out of frame?

@3dtrip870 2 года назад

The human eye detects contrast, so if you want the lead the viewer to a certain portion and/or detail in your photo/video, you can use the area in focus to direct the eye to that contrast. There are other compositional techniques to do this too, a shallow focus is just one.

@jolladevices 3 месяца назад

I'm in, I'm in. I'm joining the MFT gang, just bought a crappy E-M5 and a soon a 100-400 Lumix or the 75-300 Oly

@aengusmacnaughton1375 2 года назад

Is it my imagination, or is the Fuji hawl footage focused on the chest feathers of the hawk, not the head/eye?

@arande3 2 года назад

As for the brightness differences, lenses have different transmittance at the same tonehature, and some cameras overstate their iso, and of course some sensors like backlit sensors are more efficient with their light gathering

@jeremyerickson7390 2 года назад

16:07 is the greatest thing you will see all day lol, I miss my G9 and my GH5s too!

@chrispatmore8944 2 года назад

Hurray. Take a bow sir. Finally, someone talking sense, and imparting truth.

@patatipatata9726 2 года назад

You're funny, man! I like your videos a lot!

@juicitron 2 года назад

ooooof this is making a really good argument for my desire to switch back to m4/3.... i used panasonic lumix g85 for a WHILE then splurged on the a7s3 bc i love the look of full frame.... but the gh6 is almost here and i do like m4/3 bc i have small hands and i like the lightweightedness of it. also the direction you turn a zoom lens is reversed on the sigma art lens for sony so m4/3 just feels more intuitive..... aaahhhh help me camera people!!!

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

Have both. If you’re a hobbyist you can make economically silly decisions, it’s ok.😉

@unbroken1010 2 года назад

Where is that Hollywood tunnel? I'm feeling frisky today and not much selection at the park.🤷😜

@TesLatino 2 года назад

Dude, you're hilarious! Never change.

@officialtiimo 2 года назад

Apparently Panasonic has some new exposure blended high dynamic range mode in the GH6. Would be fun to compare.

@silverlightphotoco 2 года назад

Former photographer here...(Don't worry though, I've since given up using flash in my transition to filmmaking, etc.) I've tested a lot of 2x teleconverters and a couple 1.4x teleconverters (with Canon 70-200 2.8 L, with Canon mount Canon version and Tamron SP teleconverters) and I would agree that the 1.4x is a LOT better optically, and only reduces the light input by 1 stop (whereas the 2x teleconverters have been a LOT worse optically and it reduces the light input by 2 stops).

@joeltunnah 2 года назад

Olympus and Panasonic make truly great lenses, and they’re actually affordable, and you don’t mind carrying them around all day.

@TITAOSTEIN 2 года назад

I agree with you! M43 is perfect 99% of the time, and costs 1/3 of the price. M43 is the FUTURE!!!

@overnightdelivery 2 года назад

No it's not! It's DEAD! Didn't you get the memo from years ago? Buy a Full Frame just because.. it's FULL. Why don't you want the FULL picture? I kid. Only use M43rds and use speed boosters for the 5% of the time I want stupidly shallow DOF.

@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713 Год назад

@@overnightdelivery what about lenses? I mean wide ones?

@astrozeugs 2 года назад

1:44 Thank you. You got it :-D. Welcome to the Thony-Crop-Camera-World. Regards Andreas

@RidhaFardian 2 года назад

Go big with 200-600 with tele converter?

@gentrygarage 2 года назад

7:45 Kasey, wonderful shot

@lavapix 2 года назад

GH6... I never sell my old cameras or lens. This old man switched to shave off tons of weight and found the image/video quality was just as good or better.

@LilaKuhJunge Год назад

My old Canon 5D was alomst impossible to focus wide-open, e.g. the nose tip was in focus, but the eyelashes were not. Even half-press and recompose was not an option because breathing is enough to kick focus off. My Panasonic G6 detects the face and properly keeps it in focus. I got the Viltrox adapter which allows me to use my Canon glass on my Panasonic, e.g. Canon EF 50 1.4 becoming 35 1.0 in the process, quite interesting for portraits...

@Bill-NM 2 года назад

There's also the dynamic range and color/tonal depth advantage of full frame. Which adds up to a "look" (An "openness"? An "analogness"? A "clarity"? A "realness"?) that smaller sensors can't replicate.

@BibaTheGreat 7 месяцев назад

I use em1 mk ii and 300 f4. It is an awesome combo for birds!

@Yupthereitism 2 года назад

Micro 4/3 make for some great budget, portable wildlife photography. Full frame is obviously better, but I still prefer micro 4/3 most of the time because of the ease of focus and portability.

@allencrider 2 года назад

Ahh, if only I could afford that Olympus 150-400mm f/4.5 zoom, I'm sure I could get a date with Brooke Bartleson. But I didn't know my cheap-ass 75-300mm zoom was so good compared to that expensive Sony lens!

@keithnisbet 2 года назад

BTW the footage of the Hawk is great. It's better than no shot and when you get that close to such a fine creature the worry about specs kind of becomes less important than the experience of "being there"!

@chcomes 2 года назад

so wildlife video is different bc shutter speeds of 1/100 or 1/200 (slomo) are fine. then mft is fine. for bird photography, high shutter is better so iso punishes mft

@kennygo8300 2 года назад

I'm an old man (61) and I have MFT, APS-C, and FF cameras. Yes, I will only take my MFT when I take a long walk. I get the results I want if I'm carrying my old G85, my D7200, or my Z5. You're right that the real difference is buying good lenses.

@andresgonzalezcerda7635 2 года назад

61 is not an old man!! Go to the gym!!😉

@kennygo8300 2 года назад

@@andresgonzalezcerda7635 I'm high milage.