The Wookie Jedi and Carrie Anne Moss should have been good too but this show fumbled them and dropped the ball harder than the meteor that killed all the dinos
The story with the twins really didnt feel catchy enough. Its crazy, because if you compare them too the Swtor: Knights of the fallen empire Trailer. There is twins having a similar dynamic and youre getting so heavily attached to their story just after a couple of minutes.
@@neora5they was stronger than damn near every jedi and sith they fought😂they literally destroyed the sith and the republic at the same time, they we’re definitely special they got there force powers from the sith emperor even though he wasn’t there father
Yeah it makes no sense for Osha to immediately kill Sol. I understand she was angry, but her immediate turn to the dark side felt very unnatural and too fast
@@MultipleFlames I was fine with her turn as well. She had been getting blown off by Sol any time she tried to ask about that day all season while Mae kept hinting he was hiding something from her. Throw in a bit of Qimir's emotional manipulation and it makes sense. I hate that Sol had to die to make it happen, but if that's her letting the past die, Kylo Ren would be proud.
Honestly I had the same thought. The premise is great; showing how the dark side rose behind the scenes while the Jedi were in their prime would be a great story if done well. So I think that replacing the showrunner and writers but still continuing the story is the only way to go
well, the Father from Mortis was a very veery skilled force user who could do almost everything (remember when he grabbed Anakin's lightsaber blade and turned it off? no normal force user can do that) and we dont see force users transform or shapeshift other than the Son and Doughter, so having casuals use force abilities like that cheapening the Mortis arc
I'd argue since Mae consented to the wipe it made Qimir's job really easy. In the sequels at least, it looked like if you sifted through a person's memories forcefully it would take alot of effort like with Kylo doing it to Poe and Rey.
The last 2 episodes really ruined Sol for me. He has this creepy obsession with this little girl he just met. And, after everything that happened, the thing he seemed to care about the most was proving the vergence in the force. Just assassinated his character at the end almost as much as Vernestra Roe did.
Adjusted with the inflation, the budget for ROTS leads to ~180 million $ and since the movie is half the duration of the series, it means The Acolyte had half the budget of the movie. But the issue lies in the visual choice, not in the actual budget.
We also could have just gotten the Plagueis novel turned into a show. House of the Dragon is a fantastic example of a studio taking a book out of an existing universe and making awesome tv that stays mostly true to the source material. And they also incidentally have an incredibly diverse cast, something Disney claims to care about. We could have had that with Plagueis. But I guess immaculate conception space witches, Diarrhea jokes, Ki Adi Mundi gaining the power to exist before his own birth, and Fifty Shades of Mae works too.
Blaming Sol doesn't solve the ki-adi-mundi situation, he was still in that room where he saw Mae and should know about the twins, till that is addressed he's not off the hook
imagine a show just about palpatine starting like 10 years or whatever before TPM and it goes through some of his life and all the stuff with plagius and has some time skips and leads into tpm
I mean, I did find it VERY weird that not only was Bazil Darth Tennebrus.... but that they had time travel tech in Star Wars an the first we heard of it was when they sent Mundi's Looper back in time to kill him an take his place 87 years before he was born.
@@_Arvizzigno_ The entire Maul vs Ahsoka fight scene was Motion captured. The actors literally had to choreograph the entire fight sequence for it to be animated. That one fight sequence is better than anything this show had to offer in terms of fight choreography
now people gonna have to rewatch the cave scene qimir lives and pause many frames ...there are more clues , and also qimir been using teneborus helmet entire time its only way for plaguies knows the future
@@Ozymandias-ri6gz Correct about Reven. If you can "mind wipe" so easily he would be doing it all the time. Need to fight a Jedi, don't bother with your light saber, just mind wipe them and they forget who they are and why they are there
Hate this show. It makes no sense and adds very little. Sol was the most entertaining character in my opinion. Can we get a Plagueis show instead of acolyte season 2
So you like the pointless cameo that Lucas (NOT disney) created, and the duel which adds nothing to the story that disney DID create? So this show sucks solely on a Disney level yet you want more?? I think Disney star wars fans are getting less intelligent.....
i dont he looked terrible plagueis is one of the richest people in starwars. he definetly cuts his finger nails LOL i also dont think he'd be skulking around like a sewer rat.
something to note, qimir is Venestras old apprentice. and shes hiding that her padawan had fallen to the dark side, and was still alive. also Anakin and Oshas turn to the dark side wasnt "simple" or for "love" they had both been lied too their entire life, Anakin being kept out of decisions and talks, he felt ignored and pushed out, until finally he is told that the jedi plan to overthrow the government, he snaps and takes them out. Osha she left the jedi order when she was younger, because she couldnt let go of negative emotions, and then she learns her mentor lied to her, and was the cause for her pain. she snapped as well.
Why didn't they just tell the everyone "Look... she turned into a smoke thing and started to disintegrate a child... I did what I must" 100% fucking fair
I honestly thought it was alright. I liked the fight between Sol and Qimir. I also liked the live action crystal bled, and the way the blade turns from blue to red.
Yk it's a really poor representation of how crystals are bled right? 💀It took Vader incredibly long to pull it off and she did it in moments while barely making a face.
@@epic_chopchop5507Maybe because darth vader was trained in the light side longer? He was trained to resist the dark to a very high level. OSHA never had as much training in the light side as Anakin.
I liked the crystal bleeding. The saber turning from blue to red was terrible though, and if that's how it actually is in current canon, then I do not like it and it does not translate well at all to live action. The way it was done in Jedi Survivor is much better.
Force mind wipe is ridiculous i dont care if its canon legends or the goddam holiday special its ridiculous and even if it has to exist it should be an ability for force gods. At least with the ones it makes a bit more sense
I like how you are crazy about the last duel, saying it's the best you've seen from Disney in a lot of time, and the duel was basically a reference to the Obi-Ani duel with the hallway and the "I will do whatever I must"
it's more than a reference, the fighting style is completely different and it's also highly referencing The Matrix choreography. Both Sol and Qimir have their own personal individual fighting styles, just like both Ani and Obi Wan did. There's clearly a lot of effort put into it.
Regarding how Sol was able to stand up to Qimir one on one - when Qimir took on that group of Jedi he had literally everything going in his favor. He caught them off guard which is already hard to do, and this was also the High Republic era when no one had been in a serious lightsaber duel for generations. More than that, while they didn't say it outright by name they did explain how he did it - Qimir was using Dun Moch, which let him get inside their heads and disrupt their connection to the Force. So they were effectively trying to duel without having full control over their movements and lightsabers, and more to the point without the precognition that most typically need to fight effectively - which was why they looked like they were drunkenly flailing at him. It's also why Jecki was able to fare against him pretty well. Ataru is already an aggressive style but one you don't pick up without intent, meaning she knew what she was doing. Qimir had already lost his advantage of surprise by then, and without Dun Moch even the Padawan was able to keep up with him for a while. He's a decent Sith but not a particularly refined duelist. It shouldn't come as a surprise Sol was able to beat him as a Master.
@@frankn4576 We never saw how they did it, so we don't if it was easily done or not, they also gave you false memories, while here they just deleted her memories And the whole plan of the Jedi was base on the fact that Revan would leading to the Forge, so they knew they were capable of doing it, so maybe it wasn't easily but it couldn't be that difficult either if they knew it would work
@@Yannis1a Actually we do know, it was difficult precisely because it took the entire Dantooine Jedi Council to mindwipe Revan and make him forget who he was while maintaining the necessary memories for Bastila to be able to perceive them through the bond she had created with Revan after using her powers to keep him alive when Malak fired on Revan's ship. So yeah, once again the expanded universe has a source and an answer that makes speculating pointless.
@@TheRevan1337 I didn’t know that, was this explain in a comic or in somewhere in SWTOR?? What I remember of the original game is them saying the the Enclave Council did it, so I understood it to mean between one or more member did it, unless it did said all of the council and I forgot It also sounds like way more precise alteration of his memories than just a memory wipe like Mae
Basil noticed that Sol wasn't following the jedi anymore and that the tracker was off. I think he was slowing them down so the jedi could catch up. which is why he rejoins the group of jedi when they arrive.
I didn't so much mind Osha killing Sol and bleeding the crystal, although you could see it from a mile away, and i've always imagined force bleeding to take a bit more time and effort than was portrayed. My biggest issues were that Mae went from 'i want him to confess his crimes' to not trying to stop Osha or atleast say 'don't do it', unless they wanted it to seem Mae gave her sister the choice but than that should have been made clearer. Secondly, just because she killed Sol in anger doesn't explain why Osha went full 180 and made her sister (who she was 'gonna miss') loose her memory just so she could train as a Sith. Qimir didn't do anything meaningful for her to make her desperate to become Sith, except show his boner. What is she gonna use her Sith knowledge for?! Kill Jedi? Everyone who wronged her is dead and if she blames the whole order she is pathetic. She has never had a life goal established, except work for the cost and later find/speak to/put in jail Mae. Nothing about conquer the universe. Unlike Anakin she doesn't have any reason to stay with the Dark Side, Qimir isn't scary like Sidious and Osha isn't dissatisfied with the world like Anakin. Osha and Mae should've just run of as sisters and leave behind all their ties.
Final duel between Qimir and Sol was pretty cool. To me though, it was like the Hayden Christiansen scenes in Kenobi and Ahsoka. The only above-average moments in the whole season.
I did appreciate the fact that Qimir simply could not beat Sol. Sol defeated him in ep 5 as well. It was a nice touch to see the wizened Jedi simply unable to be beaten by the Sith/Dark Jedi who was shown dominating everyone else.
There so many question the show didn’t answer 1.) If Mother Karol alive where did she went or why she didn’t died like the other witches 2.) How did Mea survive from the fall? 3.) Sol wasn’t lying to OSHA that was an accident and her mother become ghost demon of course Mea was turning vapor? 4.) Episode 7 should’ve been osha and Sol together telling the story of what happened but instead he told to Mea that she already know about this already? 5.) It never explained how did Mea meet Qimir or any back story of Qimir he is very interesting character than the sisters? 6.) How come no Jedi questioning Vanesstra story bc she told the senate that Master Sol also killed Master Indara and Master Torbin but they already got a report that Mea is the one that killed the Jedi not Master Sol. Master Sol is with the student during that event happened For me it make the Jedi super stupid and Jedi council don’t care about many Jedi that have died to catch Mea. 7.) Lastly, it never explained why the witches create Mea and OSHA or how they created the twins? The show is just disappointing bc I thought we’re going to learn about the Sith perspective but nope
They need to really tie up loose ends of the past. They need to reveal more than just Mae becoming Jedi and Osha becoming an Acolyte. They need to show past moments on the Sith side and Jedi side that ties to Osha and Mae’s conclusion on the final episode.
This is one of the only channels I see a non hate rage fuelled review of this show. And I agree - I really think it is entertaining - please drop the hate (it may lead you to the dark side 😉)
Well it can't be all hate. Kennedy Star wars has birdbrain fans too so they have to love it even though it changes a lot. Those that hate may have a good reason
I wished they had made yoda look a bit younger. This being set around 100 years before the prequels yoda would be around 750 years old. He would still be old just maybe a bit less grey and crooked than he looked there. It’s a shame they just reused the last jedi puppet. Of course we dont see his face but the back says quite a lot.
The turn is somewhat fine, Sol was her rock, her mentor in the Jedi, her master, and it is a huge betrayal. He did it for himself, he was weak, and it really is all his fault.
They killed off the only character that was cool and that made the show even tempting to watch... Thats a failure in production to not recognize your strongest actors and lead with them. Like bruh...
I liked the show and the finale. The issues were the writing, the structure of the show and the main problem was the twins story just wasn’t that interesting. Amandla just didn’t act very well even tho I thought she gave a good performance in the finale
People need to understand Sol is a Jedi master the people qmir killed was knights or padowans. Plus he had the avantage cause none of them had faced a sith before especially one with his lightsaber style and a helmet that stood sabers once he figured it out he was able to deal with it in their second fight
I really liked how the sith where kinda the good guys in this series Also I don’t really think there’s any sexual tension between the two because I just think he feels bad and Disney is doing a flip so the sith cares about what the Jedi do to hurt the sith The sith aren’t evil, they are in pain
With all the Kylo Ren music they've been playing whenever Qimir shows up, my hunch is his story ends with the Knights of Ren. Palpatine would be a different source of conflict. Maybe even what drives him to start his own order.
How do they make the “protagonists” so unlikeable? It’s all the f**king little rat’s fault that Sol died. I wasn’t outraged like some were, but that finale was horrendous.
Since they just teased about Plagueis for a bit, I want to see him more on screen in live action shows now. Sadly we don't even know if there would be any good shows from now on so that seems unlikely. Except if they really use this same trick to hype us up then a show might be produced, but again, that's just extremely unlikely to happen. Not sure if I want to see the second season of this show but I do love seeing more screentime of Plagueis.
I very much agree with you on the wide shots. This shiw feels so cramped and claustrophobic. There are no good establishing shots or moving shots that give you a sense of scale. Brendok and Khofar are also way to similar that at one point I believed it was the same planet (you can probably add the sith island to that as well). The places and space ships feel really boring and forgettable
The obvious questions we about the last episode are first, Sol not disarming May after restraining her. Yeah just leave a pocket utility droid within reach even in the restraints. Second, Basil stopping Sol from shooting May down. The only conceivable reasons I can imagine him doing it is either he's not as brainless as the show made him out to be and realized Sol was going AWOL and about to kill the person they we meant to apprehend and tried to prevent it. Or Basil is secretly a sith which would be a lot more fun later on. Third, Osha losing her s#!t over Sol killing her mother. Yeah he's not innocent but did she forget May tried to kill her that night. Osha didn't even know the full story and instantly bled the saber crystal and was able to use force choke. Even though he hid the fact from her and essentially manipulated her, he still treated her like family and she didn't even hear him out. Lastly, why did they HAVE to leave May behind and wipe her mind. Did the ship only have two seats? Couldn't they have just dropped her off on some planet off the jedi's scope or something? Frankly I hope we don't a second season, but we all know they're gonna go all in on it.
