So you're building a gaming PC with a hundred options? Here's what I suggest! 

Great video. This build, all amd, is what I've been personally looking at. 6800xt is a beast from what I've seen. CPU temps and GPU power usage are the biggest concerns. Would love to see more AMD content, cooling solutions & you doing you! Hope you're doing alright IRL. Look forward to your next video & miss you and Paul weekly. Take care. Thanks for help

I ordered parts for my new PC last week, and you literally listed every single one of them :D I went with TuF mobo and rx6800 now I'm even happier with my choice 👍

Team Red forever!! Upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600x and an RX6800 this year. Thing is a beast!

I will never pay 300 USD for a motherboard, even with 4 years with CPU upgrades.

I briefly forgot how bad AM5 pricing was. This was a good reminder.

I love these more normalized builds! There so many RU-vidrs doing crazy build, i would rather see low and budget friendly builds

I think with how powerful the current 13th gen intel line up is at the moment, it doesnt matter that the 13th gen is the last gen for this socket. You wont be needing to upgrade for years, especially since the 13600k is an absolute beast price/perf. And by the time u need to upgrade, you will probably plan to upgrade other parts as well

Kyle, I've been thinking about this "upgrade path" that most techTubers talk about for quite a white, because I think you are disconnected from reality a bit. You see, most of us buy a PC and then never upgrade it - at all. When we feel it's old and can afford to build a new system, we sell or pass it on and build a new one from scratch. So it doesn't really matter whether someone invests in, say, 5800X3D today - paired with a relatively new and powerful graphics card it'll still be a very good machine for years to come, so many years, in fact, that AM6 will probably be out by that time. I might be completely wrong though, maybe it's confirmational bias on my part, you might want to make a poll on Twitter about this, while it still exists :D

Lots of great advice Kyle. Always glad to see an upload from you man.

FYI, You need low profile memory to fit a 280 AIO in the 4000d. I just finished a 5600x/6900xt build for a friend for $1500 including tax.

As someone that kept his b350 from a 1700 to a 5800x3d, I'd definitely invest in the PCIE 5 motherboard. It's entirely possible that AMD will be rocking this socket for the life of ddr5, so spending a little more to make sure you're future proof doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

Just started getting my parts I got my graphics card as my first part. I am doing this exact build except I got a MSI RTX 3080 10gb card. Thanks for putting this up Kyle it looks like a great build.

I love that white lian li build behind you, Bitwit. Love it so much that I've been planning to build my first ever desktop (i've always had laptops). Hoping that I can make it happen this black friday but that dang white tax on computer hardware....makes it tricky! hah I want to go 1440p gaming mostly. I tried to pcpartslist your build and it's like an extra $1000 just for aesthetic ha! But I still will try to make it happen in a couple of weeks! Been waiting for like 2 years! Currently running an i7-6600 HQ and nvidia 960m, so just about anything will be a massive upgrade I imagine.

Just built my gaming PC a couple of days ago. Went for the 5800X3D, B550 Tomahawk and 32GB of DDR4 3600mhz RAM. The added cost of B650 and DDR5 RAM is simply too much for me. Will wait for the platform to mature and prices to get cheaper before I upgrade.

I upgraded a 10 year old Intel system to an AMD Zen 4 build in early 2022. The Ryzen 5600x witj 6800xt has been an amazing combo for 1440p 144hz gaming.

Congrats for making international news with PC build that was cheaper then 4080 GPU so happy and proud for you keep up the great content.

I want to see the “BALLS TO THE WALLS” parts list. Lmao. Interesting choice of words

The only thing I have to comment on, is that Nvidia cards are usually more expensive, so if you want to save a touch more money, 6800xt is a reasonable card to pick up over a 3080, and it'll pair well with am5.

Kyle, you're looking a lot better these days! I can see it in your complexion :3

Why didn't you choose the 5800x3d and am4 platform and save a bunch of money?

6:50 Speaking from very recent experience I can say I'd choose the Gen4 board, it's probably gonna be fine. I recently upgraded from a Ryzen 7 1700X + GTX 1080TI to a Ryzen 7 5800X + RX 6900XT while still on the same old Crosshair VI Hero(x370) with PCIe Gen 3. According to 3dMark scores I'm 1-2% off compared to the same hardware on Gen4 boards. For choosing the budget route, that's absolutely acceptable to me.

I just got an rtx 3080 founders edition second hand at 640$ here in moldova, in very good shape. A little bit dusty but perfectly fine after over 1 year of usage in gaming supposedly. I tested temps and they go up to 90c in hottest point and in average 74 in full load in some synthetic benchmarks. Forgot the name. So depending on the luck, one can find a good gpu at a good price from second hand market.

You seem to miss the first criteria series, suitability. For suitability, what are intended purposes, budget, does the person using it plan on incremental upgrades or will it just be completely replaced at some point.

Waiting for the budget builds video!

I would go with older generation becuse it is much cheaper and has less problems compared to new generation products which are more pricey and will have problems still. That is what iam thinking kyle.

What's wrong with going with a 6700xt? About $200 cheaper than the 6800xt. Do you really need 16gb to game? I would think that 12gb would be adequate.

I just got myself a 3080 Strix for $500 on ebay. It got to me and had severe coil whine. Instead of returning, I sent it to Asus for RMA, and I got it replaced, so I just got me a brand new 3080 strix for $500!

Good advice on the second hand market. Gotta say I have always been 100% opposed to buying used hardware (especially video cards) but did find a returned 3080 at MicroCenter yesterday and it has been on a 24 stress test at 70* C - so far so good. On top of that, I've been extremely limited with higher end cards despite the ITX case having a three slot @ 320mm limit (Lian Li TU-150WX) I prioritized two bottom mounted slim Noctua fans for airflow to the GPU being more important. (GPU = EVGA XC 3080 OC for $530)

cheers man, nice video! i am currently in planning mode for buying a new system around xmas, or maybe even during the black friday sales if something is just too good of a deal to pass up. i play a few games at 1080p- mostly overwatch, cyberpunk and cities skylines. also do video editing/rendering and an occasional twitch or youtube stream. this is what i have so far via pcpartpicker for a solid mid-tier system with the total cost that does not include the video card clocking in at $1023: Intel Core i5-13600K (maybe 13700?) ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 (might go with the 280, but i think the 360 is unnecessary?) ASRock Z690 Extreme (because of the upgraded audio codec vs their cheaper options) TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 (ddr5 just doesnt seem worth the extra $ yet vs the very minor bump in performance) Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME (for that sweet sweet 7000/5000 mbps r/w speed) GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB (i dont want less, but i dont need more, yesterday newegg had them in stock at $789 but today they are sold out at that price) Corsair 4000D Airflow (i live in hawaii, so a high airflow case is a must) Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold (its white to go with the white case)

Can you please do a "best suggested pc for productivity"?

You should do a budget build next! In todays market I'm sure you could make an insanely cheap one. A computer shop near me is selling a PC with a RTX 3050 for about 600~ so im curious what you could make without any type of mark up!

I just got 3080 ti and im getting a 5950x with it

I was thinking of going with the current “Streaming PC Pro” NZXT build.. idk too much and don’t know if it’s future proof. Should I go for that? Or build my own. Trying to stream and game 1080p max settings

I traded up to 5950x and FE 3070for evga 3090 FTW3 and a 5600g. I did so because evga cards are no longer being made so it's a gaming card/museum piece for my collection. also AM4 cpus are going for dirt cheap right now. i could easily get a 5800X second hand or as low as $170.

I would save the money, and go cheaper, my mobo of choice would be the Arock B650M PG RIPTIDE. The cheapest option in my area, but still plenty. It is in no way a low budget option, with its frankly overkill VRMs it should support even the heaviest CPU upgrade in the future. Though honestly for those that can wait, I would wait until the 3D cache refresh, at that point both the motherboards and DDR5 ram should be cheaper. Especially the motherboards, I find it a bit insane that there aren't actually any 100-150 dollar budget options so far this generation.

I stayed on my X470 board which I already had and upgraded to a 5800X3D. IMO an AM4 build is also not a bad choice even when AM4 is EOL now: get a B450M board and a cheap 5600(x), they've dropped in price. For a budget build that's not a bad idea with the option to upgrade to a higher CPU later on.

the best bank for the buck "old gen" gpu is definitely the 6800 XT and a 13600k on cheap motherboard with some fast ddr4, you can save 50% and have the same perf.

I finally saved up for my first Pc build I got a Ryzen 7 7700x paired up with a RTX 3070 on a b650 Tuff gaming MB. loving the performance so far I have had no issues! Love the content keep it up!

If you do content creation, but on a stringent budget, the 13600K is pretty much OP for its price. You can use your old DDR4 too!

Good guide for the market ATM for the price. I understand why you went AM5 for longevity.

slowly getting back to form, great 🙂

about that whole gen 4 vs gen 5 on the graphics card. connecting a gen 4 card to a gen 5 slot still gives you gen 4 performance. it doesn't matter that the board is gen 5, the importance of gen 5 right now is solely to the NVMe storage. as far as I understood, today's cards do not maximize the bandwidth of gen 4, so we might have to wait few more generations of graphics cards before we see actual benefit of gen 5.

This is why gamers need rgb R for AMD G for Invidia B for Intel

Kyle, I would love to see your take on a current-gen balls to the wall build, no holds barred, no budget restrictions, what would you build?

Great video. Would like to see included monitor and keyboard.

Great video as always! I would go for a full AMD build 😉

one more thing on gpus: for people who don't mind refurbished cards, (no performance loss and bascially new, only really refurbishing is from testing the card for benchmarks and bottlenecks) you can get a 3080 refurbished for only 550-600 on newegg (with all parts and box, basically new)

2,000 dream PC in 2023 great video. It's still possible just got to look around a bit

I have a feeling we will get more use out of pcie gen 5 drives then we will graphics. Additional bandwidth could be used there. I’d rather go with the 6800xt for similar performance. IMO

thanks bitwit, i was really torn between going am5 or am4 and now i know what to get!

Finally pulled the trigger and upgraded to pretty much this build. Coming from an old i5-3570k and a 1060gb, the difference is night and day!

I agree with artic freezer cooler. I have a 360 for my am4 and i bought a 420 for my am5 build

Sweet video, would love to also hear your opinion on a good build for a low budget gaming and work pc where you also do video editing or maybe some other heavier work loads.

A high end raptor link build with a I5 or I7 and a 4080 with a 360 AIO would be awesome 🤩 That what I want to assemble next year. I just want to wait to see if the new power supplies reduce the smoking cable issues that’s affecting the 4090s.

I've been tempted to upgrade, though I don't really need to, but if I was even with Intel having the slight edge right now the fact that if I buy an AMD board I'm probably not going to have to upgrade it anytime in the future will probably win me over.

I've spent $1700 on parts and peripherals. AsRock X570 MB, Ryzen 5800x CPU, DeepCool 360mm AIO, PowerColor RX6700XT Red Devil GPU, TT View 31 case, Corsair RM750X PSU, G. Skill Trident Z 32GB 3600Mhz, XPG 2TB Gen4 NVMe M.2, Acer 27" 1440p/144Hz Curved monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, and Gaming controller. I would like to see a 13900k/4090 top of the line build, AND a 7950x/7900XTX top of the line build.

I picked up a used 3090 FE from eBay for $575 delivered 3 weeks ago and it's work 100%; it was from a content creator who was upgrading to 4090... there are some amazing deals out there and no reason not to buy a good, used GPU that still better than adequate / capable.

Loved the video, coming from Amd gen 1 it’s interesting to see

Im kinda in a weird spot because the only thing I haven't recently upgrading in my system is CPU and mb. I'm currently on ryzen 3000 and a Asus b450. It seems pretty pointless to upgrade my cpu and board and not just go with next gen stuff. but at the same time id have to upgrade memory and drives for compatibility and to really see the benefits of new stuff. Guess I'll just build my game library and wait this one out.

My roommate recently built a new PC. After using an i5 4670 and a GTX 970 OC for the last couple years (which he bought off me for $500 in 2019), he was ready for something more modern. Faced with Intel or AMD, he opted for the balance of the lower cost of AM4 and having it completely fully mature as a platform. Yes, there is no forward upgrade path, but there's no forward upgrade path to Intel after this generation anyways, and AM5 is way too cost prohibitive. He's not a tinkerer or an enthusiast - he just wants something that works. AM4 is perfect for that. He bought my 2060 off of me after I upgraded to a 3070 Ti, and he was looking at upgrading that for the last several months. I told him to wait until after AMD announced their next gen video cards. He did, then went and bought an ASRock 6800 XT because it's comparable performance to my 3070 Ti for about $100 less.

Already picked up an i5 13600k but I'm glad you pointed out ebay prices because 3090s are going for 600 right now which blows my mind. If 3090Tis were going for 800ish I'd go for that but they're still 1000+

Would love to see vr specific build comparisons with zen 4/intel and the newest gpu's! I'm still chugging along with my 5700xt, but would love to know how vr chat, bonelab, etc all run with a 4080/90, 3080/90 and amd's offerings!

I'd like to see you do one of these with Intel. I built a 5600x 2070 Super system 2 years ago and now i'm going to the Intel side.

Been waiting for a video like this!

I'm contemplating making the jump to Raptor Lake since I'm still running 9th Gen, but it would only make sense financially if I keep it DDR4 (I already have 128GB 3200MHz). Otherwise I have upgraded to the Arc A770, which plays fine with the 9th Gen, I really only want the PCIe Gen 4 support for GPU and NVMe lanes. _shrugs_ I may just hold off til Meteor Lake (or higher). I'm not running into any significant issues really with 9th Gen, so it's more of an comfort upgrade.

I look forward to the era of "dumb confused look" and "super shocked" thumbnails going away.

In my personal opinion the best option is a modern and build

I’m waiting to build till February.

I'm 43 and 3 years ago built my first pc in like 20 years. Aorus B450 Pro wifi - 1060 6g (off facebook marketplace for $150 guy bought a prebuilt with it in it and got a 2060super to put in it instead) , Ryzen 5 2600x, 16gig Gskill Ram. 500w psu. Now that Gpu prices are falling..got my eyes on a 6700xt and a 5600x cpu and a 750w psu for upgrades should be a beast

FYI, Microcenter just started their black Friday sale. They have a 12th Gen Intel I7 with an Asus Z690-Plus Motherboard for the price of the I7…$349. If you are close to one, this is a great deal.

I have the same PC since 2018 😎 Only been upgrading the video card 👍 Aorus Master RTX 4090

I would be interested in a 2500-3000 range build and a 3000+ build.

I find less ease of mind going amd over intel because drivers and firmware on amd can be flaky at best but I do love the innovation of amd

Thoughts? Right now I have a 9700kf 1650 build that is ok for me, but I would like an upgrade especially for the GPU. I will probably build an upgrade system over the next few months. I was thinking about a 12600kf, 3060 ti, 32gb DDR4, build that comes out to around $1550. I'm contemplating whether it's worth it to go 3070 or even a used GPU, and whether the extra 50 bucks is worth it to go 13th gen i5 instead of 12th gen. Part of the reason why I'd rather stay with 12th gen is that for 13th gen I'd probably have to upgrade the mobo too, and z790 boards aren't cheap right now. I picked out a Gigabyte z690 Gaming X board for the 12th gen at $210 dollars, but I'd probably have to bump it to $275+ for a decent ATX z790 board. For GPU, I probably don't need the 3070 right now, but I'd like this build to be pretty future proof so I'll be able to use it for the next few years. I'd rather stay with DDR4, and was looking at a 32gb 2x16gb 3600mhz kit from Patriot.

I won't worry about PCIE 5 until they are building cards that completely fill PCIE4, and they are not even close, I do not think they will till this socket generation has run it's course

Totally asked this question yesterday and thought about you and now this video is up. read my mind

My Fiancée keeps thinking your diffuser in the background by the 011 mini is a plunger until her brain realizes it's the diffuser lol

damn everything is soo expensive, how long til the 4070 4060 come out

This was the year I decided go big. 7950x Strix X670E Lian Li 360 galahad aio Corsair dom 64gb 5200mhz 3 2tb Samsung 980 pro m.2 Gpu trying to decide 4090 or amd 7900xtx am leaning towards amd. My mind set is I haven't upgraded my PC for 5 years. Last time I went mid range it was good invesment. This time I don't want to upgrade for 6-7 years.

It's a good time to build again even budget 600builds plenty of options am4 is still great

I upgraded my 2700x to a 5600 which I got for 99$ and it came with a 50$ game... what a steal

I just built one with the zotac 3080 you showed

This year raptor lake has a better upgrade path, you can snag a cheap b660 board and get a 13600k for the same price as the 7600x at microcenter. And carry forward your DDR4 memory and by the time Meteor lake and Arrow lake comes out B700 series boards will be heavily discounted or you can pickup a lightly used one. And DDR5 should be price comparable by then. Not everyone thinks in terms of buying a new CPU every year.

I'd love to see your take on a Ryzen 9 list.

I just got a thermaltake 51 view on sale from Amazon for $138.50. Great deal I think

Nice build. Me personally I’d go with the id go with 16gb and and 1TB to save some money. I’d also go with a new 6800xt

yes, please do a balls to the wall build. I just purchased a 4080 and looking to pair it with an i7 12700k.

what about a build for content creation? like 3d rendering and all?

Great Video, can I ask what the make and model is of the white case sitting on the desk over your right shoulder is.

Me personally i would rather have the new gen boards just in case the next gen cpu is worth upgrading i can without changing my board, If i where willing to spend the cash. Now if i wasn't an enthusiast and i just need a new computer prob other direction. Both are really enticing. I dont really conder my self as a fan boy for ether brand. ive had good luck with both brands. Usually i make my decision with who is kicking ass atm when i decide to upgrade. im running amd atm and when i upgrade, and intel is kicking ass ill go intel.

Perfect timing lol I’m planning to build my first pc this month

I know you are building a gaming setup, but I primarily use the computer for 3D digital design. This leaves you with Nvidia cards over AMD.

You made a realistic build. Nothing wrong with that. Most ppl arent itching to buy 1000 plus dollar cards in this economy. The deals are incredible on older gen.good video.

It’s awesome that he actually kept that humidifier 😂

the tuf gaming b650 suspiciously looks like a pro art series.

I think you picked the worst cpu on the market right now, it is the worst selling cpu and the prices are getting cut overseas because of the poor sales, and this is very early price cuts for a New Gen cpu, and you use the term "future proofing" which is a stupid term, because you never know when something is going to go bad in your system, and you have to buy something new.

You can get a 6950xt for $800 and a 3090 for $900 pretty Regularly nowadays. (Coming from someone living in California and who bought a 3090 and $900)

I managed to buy a 5900x/3080 B450 machine for around £1200 in the UK (new and used parts). Brilliant option. For most people, it's complete overkill.

What is the white computer behind you? That white looks sweet!

for me, i think ill be still staying at AM4, getting 5800x3D (deoending on the budget saved), since hate to buy another mobo and processor, fk FOMO, pc parts still kinda pricey for me, still gonna keep my B450 mobo, and luckily bought a 3070 on aug 2022 (since i did installment it might take time to finish, so that's why ill by my processor next year).