Solar vs Loadshedding: Don't Make This Mistake 

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Owais Baita Salam. Today I’m getting a 5 KW hybrid solar system installed in my house. In the process, I have viewed almost 30 odd videos on RU-vid but I found your video as most informative and honest. Love your personality and oratory style. After watching your video, I have changed my Mind and now going for 10.2 KVA. Thanks for your guidance - my concepts are very clear now. You are simply an adorable guy. I’m 73 years man and my eldest child is 44 years. I’m sure most of the parents watching your videos must be wishing that their children too match your skill and intelligence levels. At least I do 💖

Practically Proved... 1- to install Hibrid solar system... & Not to opt Online grid solar system. 2- 5 KW hi brid solar system ... easy electrifies 2 x 1.5 ton AC Inverters with consumption of 3.5 KWs and remaining electricity fr L.E.D bulbs / fans... very good on ground info, Sir.👍

Its amazes me how many myths are in circulation. Much needed vid, good job.

This comment is going to be huge so bear with me :) First of all i Really appreciate these videos, i do have solar for last 2 years, i installed it by myself and u probably thinking why i still watch these videos right? Well the thing is if you have spent as much time as i did you would want to see who is speaking the truth and who is not, i can guarantee he is speaking the truth. I remember when i saw your last video when you had no net-metering i remember saying to myself “yar ye net-metering krwaen ge to ye full potential pe chale ga na” happy to see you did it. Now, some of the info i would like to share with the creator so he can highlight these points to help you guys in his next video. (My system detail, 5.2kva hybrid inverter with 5280watt solar panels, no batteries) 1. How many Ac’s can it run without electricity? Well if you have no batteries it can run 1 non-inverter Ac (1 ton). If you start second non inverter Ac, both Ac’s will trip and when they try to restart after 5 min your inverter will trip even at peak time. Now why does it do that? Solar without batteries has a tendency to gradually increase it’s output power like 2000 to 2300 to 2600 to 2900, it happens quickly but it is still not quick enough to power a surge of say 3000watts. Your inverter can handle first surge roughly 1500 to 2000watts by that i mean if you try to operate say a 1 ton non inverter Ac it consumes roughly 1000-1200watts, your first Ac will run without any problem. When you start the second Ac now you are in 2000 to 3000 watt range and your Ac’s will sense power loss and they will trip in load shedding, but your inverter will keep ON. After 5 min your both AC’s will try to restart again as they would normally do, now your inverter will have to provide a surge of approx 2500-3000 at once and since it cant do that, your inverter will trip. (I know the actual surge will be like 3-4 times but this is just for basic understanding). 2. Now as i said solar alone requires some time to provide power more than e.g 2000watts, but if you have wapda or batteries your inverter can quickly draw current from wapda/batteries and you can power 5200watts of load from your inverter and your inverter will be just fine but your solar can only produce 3500 to 4300 watts (depending on your sys) at peak so its better to stay under 4000 watts other wise your inverter will draw power from wapda and you don’t want that :). 3. Now you may ask what happens when both non-inverter Ac’s are running when wapda was on and they are consuming lets say 2200 watts combined and power goes off at peak time? Well since your inverter is already powering your Ac’s it does not need to provide surge/jhatka and both your Ac’s will keep on running. Yes i have tested it. 4. Now you may ask how can he run 4 Ac’s without power? He has batteries right? No thats not the main reason, he is using inverter Ac’s. Inverter Ac’s draw power like 300 to 500 to 800 to 1200 (gradual increase) same as solar needs it to draw. i now have two 1.5 ton inverter AC’s i can power them both with out batteries/wapda. His system is basically two systems of 5.2kva’s, thats why i run 2 Ac’s and he can run 4 and dont take me wrong batteries do help e.g if i am operating both Ac’s and lets say clouds drop solar production what will happen? Well my Ac’s will trip since i dont have wapda/batteries, his wont trip because the inverter will draw power from the batteries. 5. Second question, What angle do we need to use on solar panels? You will see a lot of solar systems at different angles some high some low and probably wonder why is that? When i was in the process of working/getting info there were no such helpfull videos as above so i had to research all by myself i called a guy from “solar company” and asked him how he finds out the angle? He said we place the panel in sunlight and measure the output current and fix it at maximum output. Now imagine if that guy is fitting a panel in summer the angle will be very low say 15-20 degrees since the sun is almost at the top of your head, now imagine if the same guy is fitting panels in winter, the sun is very low on horizon and he will raise the panel to get maximum output which is around 30-40 degrees and hence all the panels are high. Solar produces maximum power when the sun is at 90 degrees from the face of panel. Whats the best procedure Mr. Genius you may ask? Well you need to change the angle of your panels in winter (high) and in summer (low) to get maximum output but since we are too lazy to do so or some of us have fixed panels probably on a raised platform we cant do that now what? Now you need to have something called “Optimum angle” its close to your latitude. You can easily find your Optimum Angle from websites by searching for your location, its basically a middle ground between 15 degrees and 45 degrees. You can easily measure that angle of your panels with your mobile, place your iphone (built in measure app, switch to level)on the panels and measure its angle to see if its good or not with the optimum angle for your location. 6. Third question/suggestion. Do you need net metering? YES. Hold on let me think again….THE ANSWER IS STILL YES :) Hidden draw back of net metering and how it works. Net metering works by calculating how many units you used in off-peak time and how many units you exported or sold to wapda and then balancing the figure in credit or debit depending on the usage and they convert the units into Rupees every three months. Now remember your solar will produce 600-700 units (5.2kw system) in a month, you will use some of the units during day time which will not be shown in your meter as they are directly being used from solar to inverter and from inverter, directly to your home, at night you will import units from wapda, and at day time you will export the excess units to wapda the balance of units imported and exported in OFF-PEAK TIME will be calculated 1 unit imported at off-peak time with 1 unit exported at off-peak time, but your Peak Time units will not be cancelled as peak time rates are higher (almost double may be more). Your green meter/net metering meter has the capability to record power usage at peak time and off-peak time, your old meter both digital and analog couldn’t do so(other than 3 phase meter), now when you use 1 unit in peak time 6pm to 10pm (depending on month) they will not balance it with the exported units, they will wait 3 months and then convert the balance of off-peak units lets say 100 credit units and multipy it by export rate which is Rs.9.5/unit now you have a credit of Rs. 950/- but your peak time units of last three months are still pending lets say 50 units per month, now you have to pay for 150 units for last three months. Peak rate lets assume is Rs.16/ unit, 150x16= 2400. If we minus the credit of Rs. 950/- from 2400 now you owe wapda Rs.1450/- see what they did to you? So basically you need 2 exported units to cancel 1 unit used at peak time as of now. Now how can you avoid it? You will need an extra connection/meter (old digital or analog, shouldn’t be three phase) convert your load at peak times to that meter and pay monthly 1000-1500 bill of that meter and save your exports u will probably use 100-200 units in a month and pay minimum charges per unit. Yes its hectic. Another thing is solar will not export during load shedding, its better to switch on Ac’s during load shedding. He is right even in hybrid systems there are inverters which need at least battery bank to operate during load shedding, find an inverter which can run without batteries. 7. Batteries big misconception. Now imagine you drained your batteries last night to zero (just for argument). Now next day your load is zero and solar is producing at peak i.e 4000 watts. You would imagine that your batteries will charge in no time right? WRONG!!! your batteries need to be safely charged at 10% of the amperage of your battery bank lets assume you have 185Amp 4 tall tubular batteries for 48volt system. You will set your inverter to charge batteries at 20Amps max. You can increase charging amps but it will effect battery life in long run. 20 X 48= 960w, at max charging speed 20X56=1120w so roughly your 4 batteries will take about 1200-1400 watts to charge from your 4000w solar. Now 185/20amps = 9.25 hours thats a rough estimation practically it will take more than that due to losses etc. Now if you have read through you might be thinking is solar worth it? Yes it is i am using net metering from last sep 2021 and my bill is in credit. But i have managed it its not like you can run Ac’s all the time, its simple math your 5kw system will produce 20-25 units per day. If you are using 1000watts in an hour you are practically using 24 units in a day but when you use ac your consumption will rise. You can invest in bigger system but thats not possible for everyone. Remember its not possible to operate Ac’s on batteries, batteries will drain way too fast and its very costly to build such a big battery bank for Ac’s. However there are Ac’s on the market which you can lock to certain amp’s and the Ac will not consume more than that, you can operate such inverter Ac’s on battery. Batteries operate at optimum level when you draw roughly 400 (ac watts or 8.3dc amps). If you lock your Ac to 3amps it will draw 650 watts.

Thanks for another truthful, fruitful and unbiased review of product in discussion. Such follow ups are rarely seen and we thank you for that!

اسلام وعلیکم سب سے پہلے میں آپکا شکریہ ادا کرنا چاھتا ھوں کہ آپ بغیر کسی لالچ کے عام لوگوں کو مختلف موضوعات پر گائیڈ کر تے ھیں My self Saif Khan from Karachi

Yes... I faced same questions last year (when i installed 5KW in my home) from people saying that you should buy cheap Generator instead of expensive Solar system.... I am happy that I chosen Solar system ..... Govt. is even doing Gas loadshedding too.... And Petrol is expensive ....

ماشاء اللہ ماشاء اللہ بہت خوب اللہ پاک آپ کو کامیابیوں سے نوازے آمین دعاؤں کی درخواست

Hi Owais. Brilliant video. Please share your electricity bill by the end of the month! Perhaps on the RU-vid feed. Would be fascinating to see with the net metering, peak summers and load shedding. Thank you 😊

great setup..... quick question ? i noticed you have two 5KW Hybrid inverters that come out to 10.4 as per your video. can i install just one 10kw hybrid inverter instead? why two 5kw split?

Agreed bro...the best part of solar system is the un-interuped supply of electricity..anyone who can affort must definitely invest in hybrid solar system..

I have been on you to show your garden once again thoroughly after all the work you got done few months back. I'm visiting Pakistan from the US and love your "how to" quick and straight forward videos. Really appreciate your hard work ... insha Allah it will pay off well. - Ameen -

Brother Syed Owais, don’t listen to haters and doubters and do what you love to do. Your vision is exemplary and I enjoyed a lot watching your educational videos. Keep us updated and wonderful video as usual. 👍

absolutely right, hybrid inverter is best for load shedding areas. during load shedding in day time you simply cannot export power to grid and also suffer power outage.

The issue with not separating the critical and heavy load is that when u have your AC on at night and you are sleeping, you may not realize that the power is out and the batteries run out very quickly as there is no solar to back it up. Secondly the hybrid systems are very complicated because the electrical load of the whole house is on the inverter, you need a good electrician to distribute the load properly, on the other hand on grid system are very stright forward as it is connected to the grid directly and there are less complications, the downside of the ongrid system is that it doesn't work in loadshedding but if your aim is to sell electricity to wapda then ongrid is your best option. In my opinion if one can afford then a good UPS which will run your essential load like fan lights etc, with an ongrid system is better option depending on how bad the load shedding is in your area.

ماشاء اللہ... بہترین معلوماتی ویڈیو میرا سوال یہ ہے کہ 1- یہ 10KW کا hybrid سولر سسٹم لگانے پر کل کتنا خرچہ آئے گا؟ 2- صرف تین AC + تین پنکھے + ایک فريج کے لئے کتنا KW سسٹم لگانا ہوگا اور اُس کا کل کتنا خرچہ ہوگا؟ 3- سولر نظام کے لیے AC + پنکھے + فريج کی فى الحال کیا قیمتیں ہیں؟ آپ کے جواب کا انتظار رہے گا جزاکم الله خير 💚

Sir there is NEW HJT Tecnology coming in Pakistan for 700watt pannel. Whcih 10kw Hybrid inverter will be best for that.

Hm ne bhi solar lgwaya h aapki videos dekh kr sarey problems solve hogye Thankyou

Very well done Bhai. Really such a great information. Mein kal hi market se rates laya tha solar k but ab mein isy confirm kiye begair nahi lagwaon ga. Thank you again bro.

I have been following you since long time and I must say you are doing amazing job. One question can you charge computer or sensitive electronic devices on output of solar. Thanks

MASHA ALLAH again up to the marked video. Always showed reality never give you false hope.

If you have not separated critical load from heavy load on the the inverter than what happens at night time during load shedding, because the ACs will drain your batteries very quickly and you will be left without any electricity.

wow Owais these detailed videos on solar power installation and usage is of high quality. i’ll be an informed buyer now, thanks to you! The biggest achievement is that you weren’t a residing Pakistani since inception yet you unveiled all of the problems that one might face. Kudos to you buddy! a BIG 👍🏼 🙏🏼

You’re saying that at peak time you’re running 4 AC, my question is that what would you do if there’s load shading in the evening time how would you run your AC? Thanks

Very good video, thank you for explaining it in such layman terms for people to understand. May Allah bless you and guide you. Aameen

Can you please tell me how much backup time you get for ACs during loadshedding in morning/afternoon. Also during loadshedding is it using only batteries or solar + battery?

JazakAllah Owais. Praying for your success.

AsSalam u laikum, I moved to Pakistan over a year ago as well from Canada. One thing to note is Full DC inverter AC, people might think their regular ACs would work but you need inverter AC

Jazak Allah brother...May Allah bless u nd protect u from all the bad...Allah-huma-ameen

Great job syed owais bhai Mai inki har aney wali video ka wait krta hn Buht ziada informative hoti hai... Kafi doubt clear hotey hai daily routine life ko lekr

Jazak Allah Allah Aap ko Sehat ata Fermay Yaqeenan helpful he Bohot Shukrya!

this has to be the favorite video of yours I have ever watched.

Thank you very much for this authentic information! ❤️

JAZAQAALLAH brother...I subscribed coz of your honesty ...please stay like that...always

I am watching your videos last 1 year Such honest reviews

wow amazing video brother keep it up brother. you are making genuine audience .

You are doing a wonderful job...educative and informative ...ALLAH bless you

Once again honest video review with proof... hats off Owais bhai.

plz also have a shade for these pigeons in background. They're very delicate beings and can't sustain harsh conditions. I hope you'll consider it. Thank you

Overseas Pakistani here too thinking about getting solar at the family house. Thanks a lot for your extremely helpful content and well done videos. I'll watch them again before inviting quotations.

Why were you breathless. You are a young man. Take care of your health man

Bro apny jo AC batye hai yeh simple hai ya inverter AC hai video mai bata dyty mery ghr pay on gird 10kw ka system lga ho but light jany per wo off ho jata hai apki yeh video bhut achi information wali hai keep it up. 👍👍

Owais bhai boht shukria ... Mai bhi qatar se move hua hu apki vids zrur dekhta hu ... Ye baat abhi bhi clear nahi hui ke load shedding kiu hogi... Net metering = selling electricty Off grid = battery backup for evening On grid = solar to inverter to appliances.. Is mai load shedding ka issue kidhr hoga plz ...

Good information and waiting for the comprehensive information, although I have installed 20kw for agriculture after your motivation. Standing by for house to install like 10--15 kw.inshallah

Excellent informative video..with decent advice n demonstration. Thanx a lot for valuable informative sharing.💿🕹💿🕹💿🕹💿🕹💿

Same Solar inveters thhat I have seen in powerpack video Nice Work Sir

Very informative and helpful video Muhtram ❤️👍

Sir my question is about batteries 1.How many batteries you have connected to each system? 2.Battery life on ups is almost about 2-3years so in solar setup how long it take to replace your batteries??? 3. Can we use solar energy directly without batteries and can air conditioner run directly from inventer without batteries??

Owais sb, your videos are really informative and useful. Thank you My solar system provider had told me that WAPDA doesn't allow hybrid system

02:43 Thanks for Pappiyan bhai.... Love you more & best video example to show solar power 🔋 ❤️

Seen ur series! Very informative! The only information that I might have missed. - how much back up do u get at night time in HOURS? How many acs can we run on batteries and for how long.

BHAI SALAM, GOOD ADVICE BEFORE PURCHASE SOLAR SYSTEM.

Video achi lagi apki ap badiya admi h Bhagwan apko kuch rkhe❤️

Bhai ke to maze lage huve hain hamra to fan he mushkil se chalta hai lodsheding ki waja se,ap maze karo hum saber karte hain kabhi to allah hamare sune ga khush raho bhai,,nice video

Thanks for this video. Need some more explanation about night time battery usage when there is loadshedding.

owais you need to be install bracket fan on your inverters for better performance and less using their own cooling system and also good for inverters health

Always a pleasure to watch. honest & very informative videos. Keep it up

Very good. Your explanation is correct about hybrid and on grid system.

Nice Video. Learn from now Hobert is best. Thanks brother your VV. Valuable video. Dr. Rashid Soomro from Larkana

Sir best Hybrid option is on grid+offgrid inverter not the Hybrid inverter. As you said tubular batteries are not effective and costly so hybrid inverter is expensive.

I live in an area where daily load shedding isn't more than 3 hours. I've chosen on-grid as I could bare 3 hours ( I have ups backup too) all I wanted was to reduce my bill. Hybrid batteries are expensive and couldn't last longer than 5 years. I hope I made the right choice.

Excellent Awais Bhai jaan💓You have proven that You are an Honest and loyal person with your Family Members and With your Friends and with your Viewers and You good to be Pakistani 🇵🇰👍🇵🇰

Owais sb ye bohat zabardast inverters install kr gaey hain Habib sb apke premises pr, inki performance aur features inverex ke nitrox se kahin ziada hain aur ye na janey kyun discontinue bhi ho chuke hain.

Thank you for all the help. Much appreciated.

Good video and some good comments as well. I would recommend shaking the batteries now and then, those water levelers are not reliable, at least in my case of Osaka Tubular battery (this is its 5th season & its on last legs, 2-4 hrs backup with 500-300watt load) they do get stuck & give false reading. I open up and check water level inside after 3-4 months. Also, there is a new trend I found, one ex-colleague also installed it, the trend is to have mix of both ON-Grid and Hybrid inverters, in case of my colleague, it was 10KW ON-Grid and 5KW Hybrid with batteries. I am told following two main reasons for it, 1. ON-Grid inverters from Germany (Europe) can be bought at cheaper rates compared to hybrid from europe & China Hybrid inverters are not reliable for ON-Grid export working at full capacity. 2. This mix system allows more capacity of Solar Panels to be installed when going net metering & give me benefit. But my main issue with this system is, you get stuck with 5KW capacity when WAPDA isn't coming, & unlike you people can't run majority of home load during load shedding. Can you make a video on it?

Owais bhai Your honesty forced me to subscribe your channel,

For hybrid u have to invest in betteries because hybird doesnot work without bettries.on grid work better in areas with low load shedding this system is used to reduce electicity bill only.

Awais Bhai pls reply I heared (1) Hybrid inverters are more probe to problems and have less warranty life. (2) Hybrid inverters are very expensive also

Thanks a lot Owais!! I am planning to install a 10Kw system and this video has helped me tremendously. Just one question. When have you needed to use the Grid system so how long does it take for the full drawdown of Solar battery before the hybrid reverts to grid? As in another case if you use up full storage during the day and there is not much left in the evening hours...is that sometimes the case? I will greatly appreciate your experience with your system. May Allah SWT bless you with the best of this world for being so transparent and I learned so much from your video. Thank you.

Aap ne bohot achhi Trah sumjhaya hae. Kindly yeh BHI btaa Deejiay k WAPDA ko Bijli Export kernay Ka Kia tareeqah hae. Kia WAPDA hum se Jo Bijli laeta hae uska koi record BHI maintain Hota hae. In return WAPDA se Aap ko Kia Faaedah waaqaee milta hae Aor Raat K waqt Solar power kaesay milti hae. aap Ka WAPDA Bijli k bill main kitnay feesad ki Hoti hae. Etc,etc. Thanks.

Owais bhai excellent bhai jan. Ap ne to tamam shak hi door kr diye.

Thnx Bhai....Aoka Andaz Bht Psnd Aaya..Bhai Gv Me a Sugg K Mera Usage (1 Inverter 1.5 Ton Ac)+(Refegrator)+(3 Ac/Dc Fan)+(8 LED's 30Watt) He To Mjy Konsa Hybrid Lgwana Chahye Jsme Cost B Km Aae Or Km B HoJae...Plz Reply

Boy absolutely right. I have also 10 kw grid tie system and about 10 am to 6 pm you can operate at least 3 to 4 air conditioner on solar plates and you are exporting electricity to lesco

What an amazing review I ever watched. Hats off to you 👏

Thanks for the insights owais. Keep educating us.

There is one way by which you can run a ON grid system even when there is load shedding ,is by coupling it with small off grid system....That too is interesting

Good Job Owais Sahab, appreciate the information.

Thanks for sharing valuable info. How many 1 ton ACs can be run on 5KV system and how it will cost? Appreciate your detailed info please 🙏

Great! Aap key system ka gawab nehin aap ke system main daal key kafi relax kia ha sakhta he.

You are doing a great service to the humanity. I wish very long healthy lives for you and your family. Still in case you have any ear, nose or throat problem I offer my life long free consultation for you people.

Thanks Bro, very informative and knowledgeable v log. I have watched also watched your video when you had installed the complete solar system in your home. That was so amazing and especially a for a country like Pakistan where power outage is a life long issue . Thanks for doing these videos . God bless you 🙏

Katni cost lagi thi apko yeh system install karwane main?

1. How many batteries you have and their capacity? 2. During load shedding how many ac u can run and for how long ?

You are doing an amazing job Owais

Please make video on signal phase inverter net metering... what stories behind it..sp inverters ,3phase inverters...

Really appreciate your struggle.....🙂

Good analysis brother...

Great Syed Awais Ali SAHIB 💖

Lovely.... Thanks for clarifying that process.

You are looking a tru man so your experience is usefull for all the persanal how wants install own system,

Thanks alot for informative videos. Gr8 work & intelligence.

Thank you brother for your information i learn for your every vloge 👏👏

You have to strike the right balance i.e around 25-40 percent hybrid : 75-60 percent on-grid to have a cost-effective essential back up during load shedding while simultaneously reducing bills, with capacity to run at least one inverter AC/electric heater during summers/winters in lounge alongside other essential load! Total On grid is cheapest but won't give up any back up and total hybrid / off-grid is expensive yet won't last through out the night, especially in case of high loads, nor would it reduce bills significantly. And Allah knows best

Owais bhai your take on these topics has always been very insightful. For example your video on a/c purchase in which you explained why did you go with kenwood 1838s was very informative and eye opening at the same time bcz v consumers dont have such knowledge before hand when we go to buy the things you discuss. Can you tell plz that those a/cz were all inverter or just one wo kenwood wali???

Good and informative video. Owais Bhai thori running b kia karain

But here solar related people use to say either you sell or you consume at a time ,if you are selling electricity then you have to bear load shedding which you cant avoid, and they define hybrid system as the the system which use electricity and and solar energy simultaneously to run home appliances which doesn’t include selling to the wapda

Very much informative video thanks 🙏

MASHALLAH keep it up brother love you

On a different topic - just a friendly observation. You got breathless by climbing just one flight of stairs. Do you do any workout for health maintenance! If not you should. And that would be a great topic for video series. That will also serve a big need for our fellow citizens too.