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Pretty cool to see SSL expanding out with their brand recently. With the Audio interface, and now a DAW controller. Wonder if they'll end up coming out with their own DAW altogether.
We don't need anymore DAWs the market is already oversaturated enough. Due large format consoles dying out console manufactures are breaking into the digital market. Focusrite was once an analog only manufacture until they started making interfaces in the early 2000s starting with the M-Box.
@@eman0828The daw market is for sure oversaturated. I think SSL is going to try to emulate what UA is doing right now. Selling a unit with authentic ssl dsp processing. They are all kinda going after the whole thing that avid did long ago.
No master fader or proper transport control??...DAW’s were conceived around tape machines. How many tape machines have you heard of where the transport controls were at the back of it on top of the meters?..lol..smh..love SSL but,...for me this is a little incomplete for the price tag.
It’s flat out horrible for the price tag..remember the days of the Digi 003 factory where you got 8 mic pres, 8 faders, ADAT & SPIDF, AND midi IO all on one $1300 console.....we gotta stop letting these companies continue to cheat us.
It would be helpful if the controller would show channel colors. With 50-100+ track sessions, it would be a nice visual aid. But anyways a really useful-looking controller. Just what I've been waiting for.
That’s exactly my problem with these types of control surfaces. It’s not easy to correlate what’s on screen to the control surface with out color indicating. Not to mention any project above maybe 16 tracks becomes very inefficient to find the fader for the track you’re looking for. Also, if you are spending this kind of money, it’s likely you already have a well established work flow. This device will necessitate changing those behaviors. I think this product is for people that think tactile is superior for no reason other than being stuck in the past.
I like where the original Analog gear guys are doing now merging with the DAW life... However! they need to get ppl on board on their team to come up with modern creative ways for 1. Eternal usage for mixing out of the box 2. Under the hood mechanics for smooth and intuitive communication with DAWS for Mix Engineers 3. Exterior designs "make sense" real-estate for Mix Engineers Nothing groundbreaking here. But The idea is fantastic.
The large format consoles are dying going the same route as Focusrite that broke into the digital market. Focusrite started off as an analog outboard manufacture by Rupert Neve.
@@eman0828 yeah, I just want them to think outside the box when making these new products. Wheat they are doing is trying to compact the large outboard gear into a smaller console; but thats not the answer.
@@PeteKowalsky Yeah, have you actually used either of those devices? I have nothing against either company, but the Faderport's faders are too narrow. The Behringer did not work well with Pro Tools. As an actual working audio engineer that owns two Avid S1's and the Dock, what attracts me is the 360 app, and SSL's reputation for quality. And though I'm fairly happy with my Avids and I use Pro Tools 90% of the time, I still would like to see this and try it. I'm very used to using faders. If the UF8 feels like an SSL piece of gear then it's prolly worth $1.3k to me.
I want one!!! I've been looking at and almost pulled the trigger on the Softube pieces but was hesitant due to the lack of support for third party plugins. The SSL UF8 is the first and only one in my price range that allows for hardware control of plugins across manufacturers. Softube controller is restricted to UAD and the included SSL one. Softube doesn't support my Waves and Antelope plugins. Looks like the UF8 does. Game changer. Now, lets see, what can I sell....
@@bluematrix5001 The faders are fantastic very silent sound, the continuous rotary's are nice, but I only use them for panning. I believe from tutorials that you can control plugins via the controller, but I myself do not use this function, as I believe it is done faster with a mouse.
displays per channels is excellent! I can see how travel controls would be redundant when you use more than one of these, but it's still a bit disappointing to need to buy a separate footswitch controller.
that looks pretty nice in the fact that it can certainly do a lot of things, but i'd like to actually see a real time usage video with someone who was incredibly comfortable using this to see how it actually performs in a real world scenario because right now it just seems to me that it would take so much longer to tweak stuff with all of the buttons you'd have to press to get there instead of just moving a mouse and clicking a few times
It looks like a well built controller with a lot of functionality. I just wish it had dedicated transport control instead of having to go through the user 1 soft key and then use the top row of keys for control of the transport.
if you're a Studio One user i'd strongly suggest the Presonus Faderport 16, its cheaper than this device, has better interactivity with the DAW and you get 16 faders compared to just 8 on the UF8. The layout of the Solo, Mute and Select buttons looks like they are too close to the faders. They would be better being above the faders not next to them.
Now that looks like a worthy little device. It definitely gives me the impression, of one of their much larger digital desks. Which I have used. And that seems to be pretty bad ass. The integration with ProTools looked very nice in this demonstration. If you like that hands-on feel of a large master desk. And I do. There's something much more Zen. About being hands-on and tactile with your mixing. And I would be happy to be running the Masters of a lot of stereo groups. With just a handful of faders. And then also to be able to grab for a particular channel. To tweak, to my hearts content. In that layer. Then you are just flipping through layers. It's great! I used one of their early, Acxiom MT, digital desks. And that took about 3 months to wrap your mind around. A little over 20 years ago. As one of the first master digital audio consoles. And you could configure it any which way through Friday. But not on Tuesdays. Tuesday you might just use someone else's preset? Let's try Mikey's preset today. He's doing what with the EQ and dynamics on channel 9? Really? Holy shit! What a moron! Let me change that. And then save the preset without telling him. What do you mean you're locked? WTF? When I then had my first taste of digital consoles. I could select his preset. I couldn't reset his preset. And I was like, this is going to be very interesting over the long haul. Now this little gizmo looks so much more convenient. It still doesn't make much sense but that's just SSL. You either like them or you hate them. I know how Bob Clearmountain feels about them. And that's good enough for me. As long as I can track with Neve and/or API. Then I'm good. I am seriously considering one. Thanks for the great demonstration! RemyRAD
I think the future is a Controler with a mix of this with the slate dIgital Raiven , you have your big touch screen with real faders and you dont need to asing nothing what ever you select on your DAW on the screen will automatically represent the faders or what ever you are looking at the screen they need to figure that one out, I think who ever comes out with this first will revolutionize the music industry , and this Controler will be compatible with all Daw , maybe Salte can add somthing like this to complement the Raiven, I was watching some videos and I dont know about the work flow on SSL Controler but it looks awesome and we know SSL is quality , I seen some comments some people dont like the Raiven wrk flow , I have a lot of independence on my hands course im a percussionist I love the idea using the mouse with one hand doing somthing else with the other hand, there is so many good options out there I thing 2021 and 2022 will se some great stuff coming out
anyone know how banking works with logic groups? if the group is open will one fader bank to the group fader & the other faders be banked to faders inside group? Also, is there a lock function where the faders cant be moved?
Just picked one up from sweetwater , I’m trying to figure out how to automate parameters using the faders . From what I gather the faders only Work for volume automation and nothing else , what a bust .
Softkeys should be underneath the faders. They are more usable. I think about softkeys like keyboard. That way this controller could be usable with live performance.
Thanks for watching! Yes, you can assign the same DAW to all three layers of the UF8 for access to more assignable control. Just be aware that this will require some extra setup in your DAW - the DAW will need to see each UF8 layer as a separate HUI or MCU, using SSl V-MIDI 2 and 3. As a bonus, the faders in each layer will cover the designated 8 channels in the layout to which they are assigned. Basically, you’re creating a “virtual” UF8 for each layer. Hope this helps, Mitch
Just picked up a SSL 2, super clean! wonder if they will do a thunderbolt mixing desk like the six and call it the SSL T6. T obviously stands for terminator.
@@Tigerex966 Just because of the closer fit with my DAW (ProTools). Same fit as the Push2 and Ableton when your controller is designed by the same people as your DAW.. Nothing against SSL, I’ve got some great SSL gear. I just prefer the S1 as a controller.
The fact that it doesn't have a dedicated transport section is kind of a deal breaker to me. I know it can be used via footswitch (but who does it...?) or assigned to the top row of switches (and who wants it at the top...?) but to me that is a major underestimate. The SSL Matrix is well thought and laid out, they should've made a condensed of that in this UF8... I still have my trusty C8 from back in the day, and the transport section is one of the things I use the most after the faders of course...I wonder how they put in a gazillion features you can select and assign but didn't think about that...
For that price is already Allen & Heath Qu-16 Chrome, which has 16 channels and it's real mixer or little bit expensive Presonus StudioLive 32SC, which has also DAW Mode (Studio One).
Anyone else using the SSL UF8 with Reaper? Everytime I touch a slider on the UF8, it actually plays a note in my vst (Hive) and sliding the fader changes the notes pitch. Thankfully, I also have Cubase where this doesn't occur, so i have to assume its Reaper. Any help/ guidance would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the review :) Best channel screens on a daw controller yet! However, I think a daw controller shouldn't be that flashy and attractive, because we end up using more of our eyes instead (of our ears).
Would like to know how well the UF8 works with Ableton Live 11 and Studio One 5.4 One video seemed to indicate that Pro-Tools had better support. Maybe everything you really need is available when using Ableton and Studio One.
Hi, thanks for your interest! Since the UF8 uses both the MCU and HUI control protocols, it works pretty much seamlessly with any of the DAWs you mentioned. There are a few DAWs that are not officially supported by SSL (such as Reaper, Bitwig, and FL Studio) - but Pro Tools, Ableton Live, and Studio One should work perfectly fine. Hope this helps, and feel free to contact me directly with any further questions! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
I took a chance and bought an Icon Platform M+. It’s nicely designed but the faders are hellish noisy. What are these like in real life? Icon are so loud I ended up switching it off.
Left as soon as there was no Reaper support. Smaller, independent producers would jump on a product like this if it simply had drivers and support for Reaper.
It won’t..if you want a substitute for the command 8, and are working on anything before PT2019, a Digi 003 factory is a better option...if you’re working with anything after PT2019 I’d take the Avid Artist Series over this by a long shot
@@iag127 various things...the price tag being nearly $500-700 cheaper on an artist mix (used, cuz you can’t get them new anymore), dedicated buttons for 90% of the functions you’re gonna use regularly, actual transport controls on the artist transport and artist control, faster and more accurate automation writing because of eucon, more in depth custom mapping of controls all the way down to macro functions, soft key mapping altogether is something HUI doesn’t have that Eucon does which makes everything so much easier,....i could go on... But i will say, the faders on this might actually be a little better than the Artist mix/control faders were, simply because of time and progression. Those old Artist series faders were derived from the C24. But the S1 faders are far superior from what I’ve experienced with them. The only drawback to Eucon that i can see, or have seen in my use, has been that you have to set up a router and network to run multiple instances of the console. So if you want 3 artist mixes and an artist control, you can’t connect them directly to one another or your computer. You connect each one to a router and the router to your computer. It’s a bit of a process to set up initially, but once you know how to do it, it only really takes about 3-5 minutes
@@TheMannerlessShow NOOOOOOO!!!! these artist series controllers are terrible. they fall apart, faders and encoders stop working. Eucon crashes all the time. I have two of them and i need to get rid of them. Interested? lol
@@ajafterparty Apparently you just got some faulty units...either that or you're just really rough on gear. I have an artist control and 2 artist mixes running along with the iPad Control software...never had a crash or anything stop working. lol
Jiminy Christmas - these mode switches / vPOT stuff looks pretty contrived and confusing. Maybe it works well in practice? Looks pretty convoluted to me tho. 🤨 Isn't a physical controller supposed to make things easier? Don't think this one's for me Mitch but nice video sir. :)
The price is a bit expensive, this should have been a 16 channel UF16 and sold for $699.99 -- The design I like a lot, but thats my opinion I dont know about other people. :)
Hey, Kevin! Digital Performer is not currently officially supported with this controller. You may be able to get some basic functionality out of it, but it probably won't be ideal. Let me know if I can help with anything else! Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
yeah no kidding... all these other offerings look like a fisher price toy. Avid was the only one with a sleek design controllers but they fell apart about a year of buying them. really overpriced and poor build quality. These look like they might be promising.
Thanks for the video...I watched it and bought the beast...using Ableton Live 11...after 2 weeks of use,I have to say I’m disappointed..not by the quality of the thing(definitely an excellent finition !)but for the workflow,don’t find it fluid...I have to say also it is a bit buggy ...and having some Switchs not usable for Ableton make me a bit ...not happy let’s say ! The workflow is not intuitive at all I find..those V pot selection are not very useful if your keyboard is around ,a trackball,or a Shuttle Pro 2(a killer one this tool by the way!!!!)...I will send it back and try the FADERPORT 16 to see...got 30 days to try and see... I wanted it so much this SSL ,expecting a serious game changer but Nop,this is not the case...at all!😔
Going up against the same price as Avid S1. If the quality is there and it is QUIET it might be worth it. The configuration software is a big value add IMO. Having dedicated automation buttons but no dedicated transport is a big WTF though.
Hey, Mad Mohawk Films. Thank you for reaching out about the SSL Controller. It comes with the SSL 360 software for control, but does not come with any additional plug-ins. You are right, the plug-ins sound amazing! This controller is an amazing addition to any studio setup. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Being a huge fan of SSL, I own the SSL Six and the Fusion and have to say they are INCREDIBLE pieces of Analogue gear. But lately I see SSL, a PROFESSIONAL Audio Co. Heading in the WRONG direction. 1st with their consumer level interfaces with low Dynamic Range that you can't even use for mastering (at least it was priced right).NOW with an OVERPRICED DAW controller which is more Expensive and looks much more difficult to use than its competitors(They state it will cut your workflow times....Who's in a hurry when your in quarantine and @ home with all the time you need) Behringer and Presonus are much more USER Friendly and priced Just right and does more than what SSL is offering.I don't like the direction FADI HAYEK is taking the well respected company. For $1300 they could've offered a simplified and more affordable version of the NUCLEUS!!!! SMH. What a Shame..........
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl yeah $1300 for a remote control that does nothing to the sound, you call that cheap when you can get the same or even more for a few hundred bucks!
Hey, Richard. Thanks for reaching out about the SSL UF8! Universal Audio recently unveiled their latest update to support DAW Transport and Control, so the UF8 should work great! Remember that if you have any issues or questions you can always give us a call. We provide you Free Tech Support to help make sure everything is working well for you. If you have any more questions, feel free to reach out. Thanks and take care! Jack Wellington, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3240, jack_wellington@sweetwater.com
Hey, Farid. Thank you for reaching out. The best interface to pair with the UF8 really depends on what you are wanting to do. There are lots of great interfaces - SSL, UAD, Apogee. It really depends on your needs, though. Give us a call and we can talk over your setup and get the right one for you. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Hi, Kevin. Indeed you can. The SSL software allows for both "Channel" and "Plug-in" mode. It is incredibly configurable, allowing for customizable quick keys and assignable layers. Thanks for the interest! Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Hi, Eric! Thanks for your interest. Yes indeed, the faders on the UF8 are touch-sensitive. Feel free to contact me directly with further questions, and thanks again! Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
Hey, Evil Sounds, Thanks for reaching out about the New SSL UF8. These new controllers are amazing. They will work with two control protocols, HUI and MCU. It supports all major DAW software. Luna is not technically a DAW and the version One does not have controller support. If there is anything else we can help with, please reach out. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Hey, Daniel. Thank you for checking out our RU-vid video! The new SSL UF8 is an amazing piece of gear and in my opinion the best small format controller on the market. It looks and feels great. It can be used to control the automation of your plug-ins. Using the encoders on the top and the soft buttons you will be able to make your adjustments to your plug-ins in write mode. It also has tons of other amazing features and deep integration due to the SSL 360 software. If you have any other questions, please reach out and let us know. Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Great question! The UF8 is compatible with Logic, Cubase/Nuendo, Studio One, and Ableton. No Reason compatibility has been announced yet, but that may change in the future. Let us know if you have any other questions. Thanks! Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
Hey, Nacho. Thank for reaching out. Yes, The UF8 is an all-metal frame with a brushed, Anodized top plate. It is super well built and to the typical SSL standards. Amazing piece of gear! Thanks, Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
Hey, Cristhian! Thanks for reaching out. They are not currently listed as compatible with FL Studio. I'm not sure if that support will be added down the road or not, but for now it is compatible with Pro Tools, Cubase, Ableton, Logic and Studio One. Feel free to reach out if I can help with anything! Connor Smith, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1793, connor_smith@sweetwater.com
