The only 2 viable Cleric solo builds (Judgment full dmg & smite/divine prot) got gutted with multiclassing then they never reverted the nerfs lool. Respect to anyone still playing solo Cleric
Gotta love how they balanced so much around multiclassing and then left most of that crap untouched when multiclassing was removed, gutting some classes (like cleric in solo)
I'm a druid main I don't really understand what your problem is I use a spear for range and the staff for the tree and healing spells the more magical healing you have in your gear the better some of your heals are better than a clerics heal the animals might be bugged but I use them and haven't had a problem
have to agree with everything besides not putting warlock in thanos tier in solos right below bard. warlock's only real losing matchup is vs cutthroat but if warlock builds to MS cap then it's no longer a losing matchup (just puts weapon away and walks away) and you can't landmine him because he just has hydra. bard has low MR and it's pretty hard to build MR on bard as well so warlock wins in that 1v1 if both are geared. lament + surv bow is bard's only real counterplay but warlock can just get shot up a few times and go reset to full hp in 3 sec and come back to pressure while bard is still low. theoretically the only way warlock dies in solos is if he phantomizes away from a fight to go reset and accidentally walks into a cut throat rogue or sprint fighter etc (which actually does happen a lot though i will say). all that to not even mention that pve for every other class is an obstacle/problem in fights whereas to a warlock if theres any pve around he's just going to win.
Rangers have an edge on warlocks. A good ranger can fairly consistently play outside of a warlocks range. There are some situations where that doesn't hold up, but it's generally true.
Played against you on last day of the season two times on ice caves. The second time I was absolutely terrified because I saw your kit in the last game and it was like 4 hours later and I was like oh this guy didn't die he's still wearing the same shit. I told my teammate BRO WE NEED TO LEAVE.
Personally, in trios I like playing rogue with more utility perks: I find that my main goal is to kill casters or backline, and often times if I get onto one at all, they would die with or without the damage perks. This frees up being able to take traps and locks (both for all locks and scouting ranger traps) Creep (for scouting) Overall, though, in a square up match up, rogue doesn't have much that he can do to specifically help in a team fight, and can feel like a worse ranger at times if they can't get to the backline.
I'd recomend like you said Creep, traps and lockpicking, ambush and back stab. Back stab for the fact that you can hit the enemy in the back when distracted by another teamate Running hide and cut throat to counter magic castors
I'm relatively new to the game but I agree cleric is pretty rough in solos. I play with my buddy's wizard in duos and it's night and day. My solo character is a ranger using crossbow (i know bow may be better, but i love crossbows) and spear, and I have had quite a bit of success. I admit most of my kills come from fleeing back to pre set traps or ambushing someone from range.
Resurrection is the most powerful and most useless ability in the entire game. If you win all your fights and no one dies you never need to use it. But being able to go from 2 players to 3 players is beyond powerful.
cleric bottom tier is funny when they 2 hit every player and top the ranking for hr points lol wizzard and ranger are bottom tier garbage its so difficult to hit anything at range with the abysmal projectile speed and even if you do you just chip for 12 dmg
Rogue warlock in duo's is really good this season. I know this was made before the season but my buddy and I are pounding on that comp. Rangers can be a problem but we just don't push them.
I don't think its a hot take to say bard is op in any mode... like you said, promoz headshotted me twice in a row and you still almost lost the 1v1 lol and I only dodge a couple stabs and wiffed 1 swing myself. Those shots from him were insane... headshot me out of haste/invis over the bridge hahaha
I've only played warlock since I'm F2P atm. Got him to 50 and am experimenting with builds. Kinda sad with some of his abilities dmg and how slow he feels. Getting pooed on as soon as they decide to walk towards me.
honestly best part of this tier list is, its not a list of which class is better, stronger or best. It's a tier list of who has the best range... in this game of range and ranger hahahaha
@@hewas9738 yeah, maybe I am referring to the solos section? idk would that be crazy? Am I allowed to do that since you are here to tell me what I mean and what I said and did? :)
The Barbarian eats 17 curses and by the time he finally catches one Warlock they just phantomize away and the heals he receives are useless because he also got hit by blow of corruption and the Wizard fireballed him in the back of the head when he tried to do anything, GG movie
I think Solo barb should be at C- or less. It's kind of horrible ngl, Class doesn't really have much to offer and unfortunately can't really do much anything nor to wizards, warlocks, rogues, slayer fighters, rangers and almost nothing to other bards.
imo it's playable and has some strengths, especially if you bring a lot of fran axes, and i think the gap between cleric and ranger/barb is too large to put either in C tier
I like rogues pvp, im only lvl 23 with my rogue character but im just having a hard time with pve. His short range is rough especially if extra mobs get pulled. Feels like all my hold goes to just buying heals and i cant get ahead cuz of pve
I will say when I run my named items, tripple warlock is kinda a hard stop comp, Tripple Zirkzi's Eye is just so much magic damamge and phantom ugh. Its pure cancer and unless I'm running it a hard extract run. No spell charges means they can never let up the pressure, where with Apollos comp you can half bait them into starting a reset. I want this game to be a fun melee game, where rouge can mess up a backline, but if you have mages just being the frontal assault its just a ranged game at that point. Magic damage is THE stat since no one can really do anything aginst it. Who needs anti healing, you can't heal someone who dead. The only meta where mage wasn't op was when everyone had 200+ hp with 75% mr
This video is confusing. I thought I was bad but cleric was the first class I played and successfully extracted with. So bad I barely extract, so good I can solo w a cleric and kill ppl 🤣
People just play warlock bad in trio when people buffball into your room you can curse then to remove a f load of stats hydra can make teams get split up if you place in between them
I think so many people space that out that warlocks spell predation stops buff ball in its tracks. Let alone if i go for a haste invis push and get CoP'd im instantly retreating and coming up with a different strat since I've been essentially shut down for 10 seconds or so 😂.
I only disagree with warlock & fighter placement in trios, Fighter & warlock are B tier along with ranger. - Warlock deals low damage compared to all other DPS classes, thus it gets hard counter by buff ball comps which are the meta in trios (since you need to land about 40 curses to kill a barbarian, maybe 300 curses if he has a cleric behind him) - NO ONE wants to play with a warlock unless it's another warlock, so unelss you got a tight group you'll have a very hard time finding a group as a warlock (when palying with good players that is, when playing with average dudes no one cares about comps since they're just casuals) - Warlock functioning comps are VERY limited, usually triple warlock or double lock + wiz or ranger - Fighter is simply a worse barbarian since barbarian is the only class that can properly tank the absolute META class (wizard) - Fighter also gets destroyed by barbarians due to warmaul + warcry / physical damage debuff shout - No point taking a fighter over barbarian in current meta in trios.
I don't understand why you would put cleric on b tier in duos when a cleric in duos literally destroyed the number 1 rouge and ranger and the rest of the competition. You doing that makes me question your whole rankings 😂
one guy being good at a class won't change the rankings, poshy is a great cleric but it doesn't mean the class overall is great in duos. i can play rogue in trios and do really well but the class is still dogshit in trios
@@Repoze I totally agree with that comment, but u should thing about rogues in solos being S tier, maybe thats ur feeling and not the reality of the class xD, the reallity is that u can loose to every class and have to play it so good to win, other classes just W key you and if u dont kite them u are dead. Of course if u land every throwing knife, hand crossbow shot and dodge everything the opponent throws the class is op, but thats not what 99% of rogues are capable of. EDIT: Also Barb C tier in solos? when they cap speed at 330 and have 20 francescas how is that C tier? speed, damge, range, and survavility, i dont see that as a C tier tbh.