SOME MORE DEAD GAMES: What Went Wrong? 

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I feel bad for Shatterline group. if anyone has like a justified reason, it's these guys 😢. A REAL war hit their home front and their devs and crew are working on fucking war time scenario. What a horrible scenario. I hope all those workers are safe from that studio

"It seems like a huge issue when your character shooters doesn't get any new characters" tf2:

BTW Macro, don't bother on giving DrDisrespect's Extraction Shooter AKA DeadDrop a shot. It's being called out having NFTs in this game. There's a ton of assets being stolen, it looks crap, the mechanics are confusing, the shooting feels unnatural, the microtransactions are way too stingy, and let's not forget, NOBODY wants to play it. It is a cashgrab through and through.

3:12 Shatterline is honestly the most fun I ever had in a fps game.

2:46 'Marathon coming up in the horizon'...boy do I have some bad news for you Macro

I really disagree with Battlebit dying. Right now the playerbase has been dwindling because there hasn't been a major update since December, but we're getting a HUGE new update within this month and I think that'll help a lot. I don't think Battlebit will ever truly die, it's just not really a "primary" game. It's designed to be one of those games you pick up every once in a while, blow stuff up and then come back when you feel like it. Will you guys shut the fuck up in the replies, I don't care if it's cope or not, it's my opinion stop arguing please

Rip hyperscape, never forget

I'm coping so hard, I really hope the finals doesn't die. Such an amazing game and it deserves so much success

Shatterline hasn't died, it hasn't been properly born yet. I'm really starting to see overall development improvement but it's been hard because of the war

I loved The Cycle (Frontier) and it will always stay in my heart. I will always be a Prospector from Fortuna III

I remember just waking up in the morning and all I wanted to do was play Shatterline. Those were good times.

Ive played Shatterline and I loved it. Too bad its dying.

Your not dead you have one of the most unique series I’ve seen on RU-vid every time a new character releases on ovrrwatch I always know to look for the macro channel and every time a new game comes out I always go to your channel to see your review

4 years and I'm still surprised that I haven't seen Rocket Arena in any of the lists

I’ve never played tarkov but the unique part about the cycle that I couldn’t stop talking about was just the open interactions when you approached other players - I’ve never played anything that felt almost like you were participating in a psych experiment when it came to how you should approach teamwork and just that thrill alone kept the game fresh every time I tried to get into it- if cycle has to die then I wish other battle royals would at least steal that idea

I constantly play the finals and get games in a minute so he war right to not call it dead

It’s really sad to see that the finals is an honorable mention in this, I know it’s not got the most amount of ppl but I still play very often and I hope it’s not here next year

My friend is still crying about cycle to this day, I didnt really play the game as much as i wish i did. i look back at the times and i did play it and wish i still could. RIP

WE LOVE THE FINALS

Damn 4 years, good work

Macro Macro! i'd love if you mentioned Dauntless in one of these vids!! it's an Epic Games game and was a Hunter World type of game but with some little tweaks, used to be one of my favorite games but... epic just forgot it existed, there were basicly no updates anymore and most things they promised (like a damn bow) just simply never came

Honestly Tcf was my favourite game of 2022-23. The PVP was amazing and the gun and gear progression in general was fun. Also the maps had tons of secrets and easter eggs which made it fun to explore the maps, and i also loved the interactions between players. I met so much people that i still talk with to this day through Tcf, and i hope this game comes back some day. R.I.P. Tcf 🙏

I’m really happy to see gigantic come back because I was younger whenever the game got turned off and it was one of my favorite games to play as a child so now I wanna replay it

Man i miss hyperscape. It was such a cool game just too late

A few dead games might still have sum chance due to people starting to be kind to these games and alot of these games truly do deserve a revival

I'll never forget the dev's of the Cycle and Spellbreak. I followed these games before they even released and in their prime I had a ton of fun playing. I understand The Cycle tried to compete with Tarkov but Spellbreak had NO EXCUSE to fumble so damn hard. RIP to both of these games. You will be missed (im currently studying game development and I might make a better Spellbreak if nobody alse tries in the future. Mark my words)

Man I’m so happy Gigantic is getting another chance, I loved it :,)

Really surprised (and confused) that Shatterline was on this list as it's is still getting updated and a fairly active playerbase.

Ant time macro brings up hyperscape or titanfall 2 it's like an American hearing a 9/12 joke....it's too soon.

I don't know why but this is one of my favourite series on RU-vid. Seeing what games went and came is cool and how the gaming market changes as time moves on.

Dude gigantic was so fun and awesome to play, the fact that you have 2 big monsters duking it out while depending on the players scores are is awesome

I'm still surprised Rouge Company has a playerbase. Showed my friends it a few weeks ago and they loved it

Do guys think Helldivers 2 will have good staying power? For me, I’ve put 90 hours on the game, haven’t hit level 50 yet. It isn’t because it’s bad, but because it is inconvenient and time consuming. Super credits seem to be rarer (if anyone has any idea what level spawns the most, I would love that. I can’t find any info on it anywhere) so getting new stuff takes at least 15 hours for 600~. Also, between school, studying for finals, work, excercise, and having time with family, Helldivers long run missions are inconvenient. Having shorter games modes that are just survival modes that give you super credits instead of samples, XP, or medals would be a way to retain the people with little time to grind. I would put down another 200 hours if the game had this retention and convenience.

I remember watching this guy ages agoooo glad to see his content is still as good

ngl i loved the cycle. the video you did on it summarizes it pretty well. while i was never good at it or anything, the situational feeling u get from extraction games is just so exciting, idk what the braindead mainstream trend shit is saying but personally im totally here for the extraction shooter surge, if its still happening (cant wait for marathon)

It hurts to see Shatterline dead. Oh, and just a quick correction, Marco. It's pronounced "Kyiv", "Kiev" is the Russian pronunciation.

Ant time macro brings up hyperscape or titanfall 2 it's like an American hearing a 9/12 joke....it's too soon

I picked up the cycle when it was just at its beginning. It was originally a battle royal type game with in-game events and relied on completing objectives to get money and buy better guns from a shop that you could access at any time. This (In my opinion) was the better version of the cycle as it gave a breath of fresh air to the genre with most interactions happening between players and the environment. It might also have been the community as when meeting most players people would team up with the proximity chat. It is important to mention a thriving ranked system with multiple guides and updates throughout its roughly 2-3 year(maybe less idk) existence. Then when it got revamped into a Tarcov-like extraction-based shooter it still had that same whimsical appeal but with higher stakes. This made it interesting and fun with continuous updates throughout its shorter life of just over a year. The problem I found was obv the hackers, servers and whatnot but also the grind and scaring of new players as the community had seemed to lose that friendliness as seen in the game before. Just to add that friendliness was still there because every time I was killed, I would always hear over mic "Sorry dude it's for a mission" at least we got an explanation.

We really need another anthem video. Now ik what ur thinking when u hear about this game. But I'm not gonna lie I picked this up a week ago and I'm having the time of my life idk why it just feels good. Sure it lacks story but it's gameplay is just something else. Wpuld love to see a Anthem video man

This channel will never die. 😊😊

I've been involved with the cycle since the alpha of the very first version back in 2019, and I was really sad to see the game go. While you mentioned one of the main reasons, cheaters were more of a thing that started a very unfortunate series of events. Basically, development got slowed down to get as many people working on the cheater problem as possible. They fixed it well mind you, got a new anticheat, implemented gear refunds (you will get back items that you lost to cheaters) and season 2 was (from my experience) almost without cheaters, and even if you met any, you'd get your stuff back. Sadly, because most people were working on the cheater problem, other aspects of the game got left with less attention. Things weren't developed properly, implemented with patchwork solutions. Basically, Yager built up something called technical debt. Imagine you're trying to build a house, but while building the foundation, you run out of workers and have to make do with ducttape. It kind of holds together, but anything you build on top will be unstable. The Cycle was built with spaghetti code held together by "abstract ducttape" and any new additions they wanted to make were slowed down by a faulty game foundation. On top of that, add drama within the community that led to Yager communicating less and less and the final nail in the coffin, which, ironically enough, turned out to be Roblox. Roblox bought Hyperion, the anti-cheay Yager was working with, and with that, the cheaters returned late in season 3. It was really sad to see the game go. I've had the pleasure of playtesting stuff, sitting inside voice calls with the devs and talking about the game, their vision and sharing ideas/feedback. There really was a passion and a lot of talented people behind that project. It was really sad to see it go, and I hope their next game will share the cycles amazing art and atmosphere. Anyways, I gotta finish writing this so I can continue watching the video. Haaave fun!

Every time for the past 4 years I would leave myself a little note in each of these videos, hoping that I could look at them, and see myself and the person I became. Cool video

I recommend checking out "Them's fightin' herds" its a really cool pvp fighting game inspired by mlp. It had a story mode campagin as well, but it only had one chapter with the promise of a lot more. But after a while (around a year ago) they announced that they were ending development on the game, and the future story mode chapters werent coming. Barely any players now. Not sure how long the servers will stay open.

im really sad about the cycle frontier. I loved it.

As a big finals fan I really hope it'll stay alive, but I doubt it sadly :(

That’s crazy that it’s been four years I still feel new to the channel community

Never lost hope with multiversus. I really enjoyed it during open beta and I can't wait for its return

I did buy starfield, no I did not beat it

Shatterline doesn’t deserve to be in this list. It’s not even out on console yet.

Shatterline(s) coop gamemode was like, my favorite thing about the game, it was such a great gem tbh, so sad that it died.

I played Shatterline very recently, and it was so much fun! However all my friends got bored much quicker than I did, and all migrated to Overwatch 2 (questionable decision imo) I didn't follow them, and occasionally we now play Trailmakers together just like we did before discovering Shatterline. On a completely unrelated note, I think the ingame lore mirrors what happened to Fraglab scarily well, doesn't it?

Battlebit AINT GOIN ANYWHERE‼️

Ow2 is actually on a upward trajectory right now!

I recently picked up Gigantic: Rampage Edition, when it launched on console, and honestly, it's been a blast to play. All the characters are unique and have their own set of abilities, the combat and gameplay is fast, and cosmetics and skins can be earned through player progression and in-game currency. I honestly do hope the game keeps kicking. Although, one of the only downsides is the matching making is kinda bugged at times...

Still hop on shatterline sometimes by myself, but because it took me 72 hours to get level 5 weapons an none of my friends want to put that time into a small inconsistently updated game. It's not a "main" game to play.

1 min and 0 views. Bro, fell off.

I will do -1 push-ups for every like this gets

your intro reminded me that I had popcorn. thanks.

dam marco i have been watching your channel for more than 4-5 years wow

I really hope that Shatterline can come back, as I genuinely really liked the game. Really hope the best for all that worked on it.

A dead/dying game that I think you missed is Omega Strikers. The dev team said they're pretty much they aren't planning on doing much more than lifesupport for it as they move onto other projects set in the same universe. Really fun game, but I got into it right at the end of it so I'm kinda sad about that.

i played the finals for a week or two right when it released, it was the most fun ive had on a game in a while it got kinda repetitive with not enough modes i know theyve fixed it so i hope it succeeds because it is a really fun game

Although it's been talked about already quite abit, I'd love for you to do a video on Vainglory. It was an old mobile MOBA game that was really unique and if things had gone right, would've rivaled the popular MOBAs we have today (at least on mobile).

i really hope more people give gigantic a try, its really fun. hopefully a big streamer gives it a shot and likes it or something

One of the main problems with Apex legends was that they always had events you didnt wanna miss out on. the game was overwhelming, you always felt like you might miss out on something for taking a break

I have watched one of your videos in so long. Love the vids be watching form over makes no sense

I was waiting this video !!

Please cover Gigantic if it comes back! I loved the game when i was younger and am so sad it died and I want to see it returne and succeed.

The cycle frontier did come out in a full release but was only out for like a year

Moooooore, me and my team are busy making a big game and we need more vids like this to make sure we don't make the same mistake too 😉

You HAVE to make a Gigantic for noobs. A friend of mine who was dedicated to the game until its very end convinced me to buy it, and it's absolutely peak. If people cover it, it can have the chance to stay successful.

Great vid ❤

I bought Starfield and enjoyed it. I "replayed" it twice. I love the atmosphere and aesthetic of the game. Seeing Beth updates it once in a while, I'm hoping they'd drop a huge one soon and I'll start playing again.

6:47 note on the apex mobile one. The game assets are being recycled for a different game made by tencent called "High Energy Heroes" so if there is people who still wish to play a mobile apex, look forward to that releasing

DUDE i love the boneworks song outro is so cool!

Hey @Macro, I loved the video. I was wondering if you could cover the game Naraka Bladepoint.

Shatterline would have been a fantastic game I remember following it vividly. I honestly think at some point they need to attempt to bring it back, if it wasn’t for that invasion the game would definitely have been alive

I liked the cycle more when it was a weird hybrid between battle royale and extraction shooter where everyone started with a pistol and you had to call in better weapons and gadgets and the winner was whoever completed the most objectives while still surviving. I feel like they could have carved out a niche cuz the wait times for matches was under 5 minutes with minimal cheaters.

i actually really liked shatterline and tried to get my friends to play. it really sucks to has what happened to the team, life really hits sometimes and puts things into perspective.

I love the power shift mode in the finals it made me play it again because my friend is 5 people so there would always be 2 left out

Hey Macro if you ever make a video about games coming back a good one to include would be cyberpunk 2077 as that game has finally been fixed and it’s a a lot of fun to play or even make a for noobs on it again.

The finals only has a problem in balancing, some classes feel overwhelmingly strong or very weak and their solution was nerfing the aspects that made them unique ie: light classes speed. They also made the medium class lack any defining feature other than utility which light and heavy sort of accel more at

I bought Starfield, and have played through the entire main story. I then started NG+ right when I finished the main story, but then stopped playing once I realized none of my guns or resources or anything carries over to NG+. Pretty much the only thing that does are your skills. But I was so excited, I just got two dope guns from the final boss fight, and I couldn’t wait to use them throughout my NG+ playthrough, but nope, can’t use anything I had before.

I love fraglabs so much I hope they're all safe and can continue to grow and deliver some banger games

This channel ain’t dead it’s going great you got a thousand likes in 30 minutes bro

I played star field on gamepass and I loved it, I beat it and completed most of the large side quests that were very fun. After that I stoped playing, it’s more of a fallout in space but it was announced as a no man’s sky.

Macro! will you cover the HUGE battlebit update when it comes out its gonna be insane and i just don't feel its geting the hype that it need

I played a ton of The Cycle : Frontier and from a constant players perspective the beginning of the downfall was that (if you were good enough) you could just kill players who had endgame weapons and gear with "uncommon" SMGs so a lot of the player base quit with this low risk high reward strategy Era that many people used. After that it just ended with the cheater incident due to the game having this problem of a low player base so the cheaters would use it as a playground with no backlash, but when that backlash came the game was already dead + It being a free to play with in-game purchases was its main downfall from the start as a Extraction-Shooter. There was also the incident between the youtuber Tickle Me Pink and the developers of the game.

Thank you for the video

its that time of year again

Man I forgot about rogue company, remember when that game came out , 😢always be in my heart

Gigantic is making a comeback. Although, I'd love for wizardry online to be back

I don't want to see the finals one day on this list it's so fun to play with friends

might have been covered in a previous video but another "reborn" game is Worlds Adrift

With the huge hype behind the bending in Fortnite I’d like to see spell break return. With updates and care the game could’ve and still can be something special

I would love to play battlebit again, but being in Australia, we don't have the numbers to have a good lobby

Gigantic looks fun so I hope it has a successful come back

I wish Macro looked at Battle Bit player count while it was in early access and then recognized that when it launched it had a huge surprise player BASE jump but then returned to near it’s normal levels after the launch hype wore off. It’s definitely not dead or dying

As a person who played starfield Yes, I beat it, but never replayed it, since it just seemed like to much effort just to see the pirates win