@@caske77 Bruce only met Spider-man in End-game and never officially either. He was aknowledged that he existed when he returned to Earth in Infinity Wars, but we all know Hulk never came out from that point.
@@redbirb1571ahh but in the movies Bruce and hulk can communicate its shown when he's like come out I need u now and he half hulks to scream no! So hulk def knows things Bruce does
people who know peter is spiderman: Peter parker hulk doctor strange deadpool stan lee🗿 God🗿 The audience🗿 Uncle ben in heaven🗿 Aunt may in heaven🗿 the writers of spiderman🗿 ironman in heaven🗿 black widow in heaven🗿 Tom holland🗿
Personally I prefer Bruce over Hulk, he’s much more interesting as a character than the rampaging monster who speaks like a caveman but can punch real hard.
@@Churrowhispererthat rampaging monster had an incredible story arc and character development that was thrown in the shitter. Planet Hulk, World War Hulk, just off the top of my head
@@thewanderer4336 those two stories you mentioned were part of the same arc, and can be boiled down to just a bunch of fighting, either on sakaar or in New York, the most character development that happens is hulk’s pregnant wife dies which makes hulk angry, and angry hulk is not exactly a new and interesting concept.
@@Protector2015 No, they haven’t. Banner literally converses with him in Infinity War and Banner talks about him like a separate person, such as in The Avengers’ famous lab scene. The Hulk was accidentally created as a second person in Bruce’s body as side effect of the gamma radiation explosion. Banner and Hulk have the same situation as Caitlin Snow and Killer Frost. Frost was a side effect of Thomas Snow’s experiments on his daughter. He performed these experiments as an attempt to cure Caitlin of the disease they share which is amyotrophic lateral sclerosis(ALS). Killer Frost is a completely separate identity from Caitlin Snow, and as proof of it ****[SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW - Frost eventually gets her own body, separate from Caitlin’s - SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW].**** Banner and Hulk do not share memories, nor do Caitlin and Frost. However, their situation is completely different from that of Moon Knight. Marc Spector unintentionally created Steven Grant when he pretended to be the brave adventurer Steven Grant to avoid his mother’s abuse from hurting him mentally. Marc and Steven *used* to be the same person, but they split as a result of Marc’s coping mechanism and Steven got his own identity. This is called Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID). Hulk did not exist before the explosion, and Frost did not exist before the experiments. Steven was _always_ a part of Marc’s identity, but Marc made Steven get his own. Wanda Maximoff is commonly brought into this conversation, because some people think the Scarlet Witch is a separate character from Wanda. This is not true. The Darkhold acts a drug which which causes the most selfish and dangerous parts of Wanda to come to the surface and take precedence/control over her good parts. Wanda _is_ the Scarlet Witch. _Wanda_ hunted America. _Wanda_ destroyed Kamar-Taj & massacred the Sorcerers. _Wanda_ murdered the Illuminati. And finally with a clear mind from her madness, _Wanda_ dropped the mountain on herself, allowing her to die and escape the immense pain she felt. The Scarlet Witch didn’t do any of those things because there _isn’t_ a Scarlet Witch. Just as there’s no Captain America, only Steve Rogers, or no Iron Man, only Tony Stark: there’s only Wanda Maximoff.
So let’s say if a dead MCU character were to come alive like Ironman, would he remember Peter also since rhodey allegedly was captured by the skrulls since civil war and kept in a coma for all those years and reawakened, would he remember Peter as well
@@Jackferrett6781 I miss nothing. She doesn't read minds, she's a physical empath. She can only feel feelings and manipulate them. She only knows Star Lord loves Gamora because she felt his feelings of love first, then when he looked at Gamora it got stronger.
Actually doctor strange also remembers spider man because in the movie doctor strange and the multiverse of madness ,while talking to the girl he mentions of how there was once an incident with spider man and everyone forgot him
Can you not read? He said an incident with spiderman but he never mentioned a name. Even in no way he specifically said he'll forget too. He knows Spiderman is spiderman, not Peter Parker.
And even if it was regular Hulk who met him, and he was in Bruce form when the spell was cast, they'd both forget since Bruce said they both know what's going on when the other is in control.
@LopezCreations cuz he "breaks the fourth wall" bro, dude just said that Deadpool probably has the power to watch all the mcu movies because of his "higher consciousness" or "advanced awareness" or whatever you wanna call it but yea, he just knows stuff about the real world
@@LopezCreations He also technically doesn't exist in the same universe... yet... but is aware of all the movies because of his 4th Wall Breaking, like he literally called out the fact that Cable and Thanos have the same actor in Deadpool 2 even though he's never met Thanos. Plus Once Upon a Deadpool directly calls out Disney buying Fox and he did a video talking to Korg about how to get into the MCU so he is aware of those movies even if he's never met those characters. But the spell wouldn't have effected him anyway since he isn't in the same universe. Doctor Strange's spell only effects the people in the MCU knowing that version of Peter Parker.
Everyone forgot the Connection of Peter Parker and Spider Man and the Identity Peter Parker is completely gone Spider Man is still there all know him just Peter Parker and who Peter Parker is is gone
@@saifaansyed984no bro watch doctor strange multiverse if madness .in a scene Doctor strange and wong both discuss about Peter and Spiderman to america Chavez
@@neetasharma8232they still remember spiderman, just not peter. The spell made it so everyone who had interactions with spiderman now just forgot he ever took his mask off. People forgot peter parker not spiderman. It is said in the movie and happy also says he knows aunt may from spiderman
My dad brought up the great point of “What if it only affects people who were on the planet at the time? Because they made a point of saying Fury wasn’t on earth”
No, the spell casted in end of No Way Home didn't erased Peter Parker as Spiderman, but Peter Parker as a identity itself. He erased his existence from all of the world's memory. So MJ and Ned forget Peter and all of his memories recorded were erased.
I never understood how MJ and Ned didn't remember Peter Parker in the end of the movie... I thought the spell was that they'd forget that he was Spider-Man but not that he was their classmate and friend??...
Hulk didn’t meet Peter, Hulk was off world. When he came back he came back in the form of Bruce to warn people Thanos was coming. Even Bruce didn’t get to meet Peter until Endgame as Peter went into space during the fight against Thanos’ men, then got dusted on Titan.
They literally show you Hulk standing right behind Peter. And to think they wouldn’t talk at a funeral is crazy because Peter who made it appointment to always introduce himself to fellow Avengers by his actual name, would obviously know who Hulk is and start a conversation, and they both have Tony in common one as a peer and the other as a mentor so it makes perfect sense. Professor Hulk is also smart enough to know something is off if he can’t remember the kids name at the funeral he was talking too.
@@thenewavengers1581 No, her cabin was just an illusion projected onto the place she met Strange, he even tells her she can find a way to make up for the hex in Westview.
@@whuuuut2035 yes the cabin wasn't an illusion it was real she created it and after that when strange confront her she says and I quote :You know the Hex was the easy part but lying not so much. Then she takes the hex down and we see a every thing is destroyed and the garden was real cause strange picks an apple and says I quote :Apples real then Wanda Says I left magic behind me. Indicating that strange though it all was real and fall into her reality warping area that is why he didn't use his powers cause if you re-watch it you can see Runes.
Need to see the film again, but I swear Dr. Strange added another part to the spell, and always left me wondering if Strange still knows, or has a contingency, that if something happens he can recover part of the memory. but like I said i'd need to see the film again.
I was thinking the same thing. Specially in Multiverse of Madness we see him recalling Spider-Man, but no mention of name drop. So he does remember something, just if he recalls if its Peter is unsure. Plus we don't know exactly how the spell works if it alters physical things like photos. We just know it affects parts of the memory. Since also MJ still has on the necklace and at the end we see her kind of feeling something familiar about Peter, but unsure. Just given facial expressions. So I do think Strange re-wrote the spell with a contingency plan in mind.
The point is that the spell made them forget that Spider-Man and Peter Parker are the same person. That was why the end of the movie had Jameson calling for Spider-Man to unmask. Everyone who fought with Spider-Man in Endgame didn't suddenly forget he was there, they would just no longer remember him from Tony's funeral.
Yeah ...they know spiderman but the man behind the mask is the one people forgot..so peter can swing and go anywhere as spiderman...but the name peterparker will be forget...they need to dig deep again and reveal again..who knows maybe venom can identify since mcu peter need to link with venom to create some trouble now he is alone..and venom has this super hive mind so that it knows that peter is spiderman something like that..but until then no one knows peter parker is spiderman
I think it make more sense for Carol to remember who Peter is given that it was never specified if the Spell affected people in space and Carol does have that memory headset
I'd arguee the Guardians of the Galaxy still remember since they were not ON EARTH what Dr. Strange specifically statet: Everybody on Earth is going to forget that Peter Parker is Spiderman Edit: Could have excluded Fury and Sabre as well.. depending on how close they orbit earth..
Yes I agree also. I have been saying this to my family and friends as well. Finally glad someone else remembers this too. You see the spell cover Earth not the universe. So with that also Captain Marvel remembers him too from Endgame and also Tobey and Andrew Spidermans because they are in a different universe along with their rival counterparts. Maybe even including Thor depending on the actual time this took place because he was in space doing things and was with the Guardians for a small bit.
Quill is back on Earth. Would he still remember Peter is Spidey? It would be fun having Star Lord suddenly meeting Spidey in New York or somewhere, because Nova crashed from Xandar to Earth.
How far do those runes stretch out to make everyone forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, clearly not far enough when you involve the TVA and Deadpool.
The spell wasn’t just to make everyone forget that Peter is Spider-Man. It’s to make everyone forget Peter Parker completely, not just that he’s Spider-Man.
They erased the memories of the people within planet EARTH, not the universe, that means people who were off world (fury, Guardians of the galaxy, captain Marvel etc.........) and also Sorcerer supreme still remembers, because a sorcerer who is not sorcerer supreme cannot wipe the memories of the actual sorcerer supreme (only Wong can do that to other sorcerers), so that means Wong, never forgot about Peter
Wrong. They erased Peter's existence from the minds of everyone, all universes even. Otherwise it wouldn't have fixed the fact that people who knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man were drawn into their universe and to their earth. Strange basically Thanos snapped Peter from everyone's minds.
@@Nerex7 The effect wasn't universal, it was planetary, so that means Nick Fury, Carol Danvers, Monica Rambeau, Guardians of the galaxy, Wong and Tobey Maguire/Andrew Garfield spidermen still remember Peter park, Wong remembers because the sorcerer supreme is placed higher than all the other sorcerers, so if a normal sorcerer attacks him, that attack won't hurt him as much as it will a normal sorcerer but if a spell or curse or any attack that is used to mettle with his mind is used against him by a lesser sorcerer (normal sorcerer), it will not work on the sorcerer supreme, but he can do it to them, the sorcerer supreme is invulnerable to the normal sorcerers, and the normal sorcerers are vulnerable to the sorcerer supreme. Wong also gave us a hint in She-Hulk, he said to Jennifer "No no no, we are not erasing everyones memories, no not again"
Then how come it stopped everyone from being dragged into the dimensions if it was only limited to the planet? That just makes no sense. I can get behind there being exceptions but overall, everyone forgot the existence of that Earth's Peter Parket across all universes. Otherwise it wouldn't have solved the problem. @@Sylence_165
@@aarav1724 well actually there is a theory that she didn't actually die. See, when she was shown being crushed, we saw a red light shoot into the sky right before the building stopped crumbling down. So, she could have escaped death
@nealsmall9316 not really sure, I'm looking forward to finding out tho. I reckon some characters will find out that Peter Parker is spider-man. Dr strange is going through things at the moment so maybe, because Dr strange helped spider-man, spider-man will now help Dr strange.
There is also a chance marvel could introduce and hero that ever met peter parker back into the mcu. When in the last spider man movie he brings back all the villains is because anyone that ever met peter parker came back even villains. You could say Iron man comes back Widow comes back anyone you want. Return of iron man.
yeah as in Wong was saying "I don't want to know about any spell you cast." he wasn't saying don't include me in the spell. you really think Dr Strange was going to erase the memories of everyone in the world, including himself, but he's going to leave Wongs memories alone? nah man.
The only person who remember is dr strange I think. However I think dr strange cant unlock the memories he erased of the people who were close to peter such as peter and ned. My theory is when professor x is introcuded he will help the people who were close to peter remember that he is also spiderman. We seen him unlock wolverine memories in the X-Men Movies.
Bruce or Hulk never met Spidey until Endgame. And even then they never actually officially met. They just fought in the same battle and stood within close proximity to each other at Tony's funeral.
Maybe that explains some things, I once had a dream when Spiderman was consumed by Venom and became savage destroying everything in his way but eventually he was saved by the Hulk he brought him out of Venom's body and then Venom got frozed by a freezing liquid Hulk has brought it from the lab and shattered like glass aftermath when Peter regain his conciseness he couldn't believe that he was saved by Hulk the only one who still remember him he asked him "you still remember me?" Hulk response "and why I could've forgotten about you? We are Avengers."
There is one person who knows Peter is Spidey but it's not Hulk. It's Vulture. He wasn't in the same universe when Dr. Strange cast the spell, so he retained his memories of Peter being Spidey.
Doctor strange still remembers him because in doctor strange multiverse of madness when he was talking to that one girl she asked if he had any weird stuff happen and he said he had an incident with a spider guy
The only one who'll remember spider man is Thor. As when Spiderman no way home took place and Doctor strange casted the spell to make everyone forget Spiderman in Earth, Thor was with the Gaurdians in Space as shown in the movie Thor Love and Thunder
I want to hope that the spell only works on every "living" soul, giving hope that Aunt May and Tony still remember who he is and all the good that he did
To be fair, in the comics, the deal would be that everyone *forgets what Spider-Man’s secret identity is,* whereas in NWH, it was for everyone to *forget Peter Parker himself*
Peter could go to Dr. Strange and be like "I know you don't remember me Stephen, but you deal in magic and this probably wouldn't be that surprising. Can you look through your spell history and try to fix it?"
And there's still one person who remembers when this was a platform for honest hardworking content creators who used their own personality, and not cheap hacks that pump out a video every couple hours with an AI voiceover doing the work for them....but here we are.
I like to imagine that when DP and spiderman meet up they have fun as usual and when spiderman tried to reveal his identity the same bs that happens In the comics will happen in the mcu
In Spider-Man: No Way Home the spell was cast that every forget Peter Parker, not that Peter Parker was Spider-Man. That's why at the end of the movie Peter's closes friends didn't know who he was.
In Doctor Starge in the Multiverse of Madness Dr. Strange made a hint that he too remembers Spider-Man, at the beginning of the movie, when America asked him and Wong if they knew what the multiverse was.
The weird thing is, everyone forgot peter is spiderman, but didnt forget spiderman. The remaining Avengers still remember him, they remember fighting with him (and against) in Germany, and they remember fighting with him against Thanos both times. If he went to one of them they would know him, they just would not know who he is under the mask.
Doctor strange remembers because as you all know, one ring on his spell is one person who remembers him, and at the end of the movie, there’s a ring around doctor strange meaning he made himself remember
“It’s possible”. Says a lot. 😃 Great theory on the Hulk form VS Bruce Banner. I like that. Back in the Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno Hulk show, many times “David Banner” didn’t remember anything that his Hulk persona did. It’d be interesting to see that happen after Doctor Strange’s spell. 🙂
Shang-chi's post credits scene takes place before Avengers Endgame (carol's long hair and old outfit abd bruce's human form) so bruce wasn't in human form during No Way Home
I just realized that in the credits of in venom 2 venom gets put in the mcu and knows Spider-Mans identity so technically since there’s still a small amount of venom left in the mcu that means venom still knows peter is Spider-Man
Thor and the Guardians would remember Peter being Spider-Man as they were off world. Maybe even Captain Marvel and Nick Fury as they were also off world
Its thought that tobey maguire peter and andrew garfield peter also remember that tom holland peter is spiderman (and meeting him) because miguel o hara in spiderverse references the events of no way home, meaning that the spell doesnt affect people in other universes.
If I recall correctly, the spell only affected Earth, so the Guardians of the Galaxy could remember (provided they weren't on Earth when the spell was cast). Or Captain Marvel.
Strange didn't make everyone in the universe forget peter, he made everyone in the multiverse forget who peter was. Given that most of the "baddies" who they were dealing with in this film were from alternate universes.
If any of the heroes enters that TSA area, where all timelines are flowering, they will see the truth. Because all of their actions and secrets are revealed
That would be a great twist 💯👍🏽. If they can hold on to Hulk, maybe they can play that out in a movie so they can continue Peter being known by someone genuinely.🎉💯🤷🏽♀️👍🏽
Maybe Hulk will have a random scrap with puny Spider in a movie scene..that might almost be enough to convince me to buy one last Marvel cinema ticket.
scarlet witch made hex so typically no magic work she knows dr strange also knows, he mentioned a problem with peter parker and spider man in the multiverse of madness
They still never really met. Also, this is my biggest want for a team-up. Or even for then to just interact in any way. Always loved them together, and they have botg been my top 2, with Strange coming in 3rd.
