Someone Turned The Trolley Problem Into A Game (Dr. Trolley's Problem) 

Philosophers spent years pondering these scenarios only to be trumped by the bulletproof logic of "they shouldn't be standing on the tracks"

"Plus we just created 3 new jobs" I'm dying here

explaining why changing the tracks would be murder, immediately followed by the jock/nerd choice 😂

Would be way more interesting if they were tied down. Nl seems to be relying on the fact that they are willingly putting themselves in danger

"God loves all his children equally, except if they stand on the main track" -. Ryab 4, 15-17

NL canonically doesn't return the shopping cart because "he's creating jobs"

In the words of legendary Canadian dad rockers "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice".

i wholeheartedly agree with how you digested this, but on the other hand i feel like the trolley problem usually comes with a caveat that the victims are in no way accountable for the position. When you normally see the 2 train tracks all the people are tied to it, when you dont tie them down they're there on their own volition

“I can imagine there’s sound?” 2 seconds pass “Yeah I’m gonna turn that down”

NL, none of these people put themselves in danger. YOU put them in danger by destroying the breaks of the trolley at the beginning of the game.

Narrator Voice: In this episode, Egg solves problem that has has plagued ethicists for decades.

Moral of the story: Stay off the tracks, an egg god will not save you

Bro the fact that the game didn’t specify that ppl didn’t know the tracks were unsafe or did not come there by their own free will is insane. Like dude you had 1 job here :( Very good content tho

Everything seemed straightforward until they got to the "everyone you love" vs "everyone that loves you" question. The fact that there were no people who both love you and and whom you love, well that leads me to option number three and throwing myself on the train tracks to stop the trolley because that is a sad lonely existence.

From 4:55 to 13:37 you witness the complete conversion of an egg from a reluctant Utilitarian into a cavalier Kantian

Northernlion as he allows the proletariat to die: "haha I'm a job creator."

I hope the mom/dad "glitch" was intentional, actually hilarious.

I’m starting to suspect that this Dr Trolley might not have a Doctorate after all...

I just found it funny how NL was steadfast in "I won't flip the lever if the casualties are equal on both tracks, regardless of what types of people are on either," until it was nerd vs jock, and then he flipped the lever to save the nerd, and the next level was titled "Hahahahahahaha"

"The cat lived.. there was no ghost." Flawless logic.

"Why isn't MALF streaming anymore? " xD

“Chat...don’t look”. Nearly pissed myself laughing

Would you have acted differently if the people were tied to the tracks against their will?

The jankyness of the game, the ambiguous badly worded result screens, the questionable stats, the bugs and the repetitive situations just make this quite a surreal experience. It would be cool to have some actual philosophocal content from NL but this is also just as entertaining.

This is incredible, the video and the comments here do a great job of illustrating this thought experiment (great content BTW NL!) A lot of people taking issue with the game, fundamentally misunderstanding the purpose of the trolley problem. Or thinking that NL has "solved" it because the people aren't tied down. Funny thing is, they and NL all have fallen right into the trap of the trolley problem, and show exactly why this problem is interesting from philosophical, moral, and psychological standpoints. Look at NL's decision making at 4:55. He takes action to sacrifice one to save the many. He rationalizes his decision in one sentence, "I'm taking the strictly utilitarian approach", and quickly moves on to the next one. Easy. Compare this to the decision at 8:25 - he DOES NOT take action to sacrifice one to save the many, then spends about a minute and a half rationalizing this decision, even so far as coming up with an entirely different situation. Not so easy? This is incongruent with decision making earlier on - this was not the utilitarian approach. These two situations had the EXACT SAME possible outcomes, yet NL reacted differently and chose different outcomes. And most people here nod and say, yes, that makes sense, these are both the correct decision. How is this possible? Imagine viewing this from a robot's perspective. The robot just watched a man in one scenario sac one to save the many...then proceeded to do the opposite? Why? From a mechanical, objective standpoint, this makes no sense - this was irrational, illogical. Yet NL's brain has no problem morally justifying the "truth" of his decisions, despite them being completely opposed to each other. And most everyone would agree (as highlighted by the comments here!) The small difference between the two problems highlights a point, even in a silly, pixelated game form - we have no problem sacrificing one to save the many through an INDIRECT action (pulling a lever to change tracks), but we DO have a problem with sacrificing one to save the many through DIRECT action (pushing a man onto the tracks). But if there were some sort of universal, moral, objective "truth" to good, then this shouldn't be the case. Or should it? :D Only time I've ever made a YT comment, but I had to because it's awesome to see this experiment played out not only in the video, but in the comments to great success. Keep up the great content Egg, loving it!

13:44 "Not by wrath, but by laughter do we kill" *Murders a jock while laughing a few seconds later*

" Here's a simple trolley with WORKING brakes. It's beautiful." NL 100% caused the entire Trolly problem in the game when he chose to stop it for no reason 😂

"The veiled people are the same as the visible ones." I feel like it defeats the entire purpose of the veil of ignorance to disclose to you what is underneath it.

On the left track is a RU-vid subscriber, on the right track is a twitch subscriber (but its a gift sub)

But the main point of this is that both the people in the danger rails and the people in the safe rails are put there without their consent. It's not like the ones that will die if you do nothing "put themselves into danger" as you said.

“Plus, we just created 3 new jobs” I am dying from that

This was so poorly designed. They put all the intuitivey preferable choices on the straight track so you could just do Egg strats and not play the game. They should have made it so you have to have agency in the act with the preferable victim on the second track. Missed opportunity for a game which has a decent sense of humour.

Philosophical NL - call that René Descarten of eggs

NL: kills one worker to save 4 workers Also NL: doesn’t kill one worker to save 5 workers

If the bomb still went off after torturing the guy it would be both hilarious and an accurate comment on the utility of torture. Game loses like 3 points outta 10 for missing the obvious opportunity.

So many answers were predetermined just by the fact that one track was straight and the trolley would drive over it anyway without intervention. Would be much more interesting if both tracks curved outside like the right one.

Ryan "I hae an ideology I'm sticking to!" *Narrarator: He did not*

The whole idea of "If the only way you can intervene is to choose who dies; you're a murder if you make the choice." makes sense. However, if you consider the fact that simply observing the situation happening there-in gives you the moral dilemma of choosing who dies, by choosing not make that choice you have still made a choice. The other thing to take into account is why are they on the tracks? They are clearly not just standing on a random train track for no reason; They are there because the robot put them there. If you think about it more like a Squid Game scenario, where you and the people on the track are all players in a game, and the information you're being given ultimately decides who gets to go back to their real life and who doesn't; Keeping in mind that not choosing is still a choice, I think actually making an informed decision is the lesser of 2 evils in this scenario.

It's more difficult when the people are tied to the track implying they didn't choose to be there. This version makes it way too easy to just say "shouldn't have been standing there"

The abortion trolley problem: If you pull the lever somebody dies. If you don’t pull the lever, nobody dies.

Honestly just 30 mins of: - Extremely good takes - A demonstration of why people are usually tied to the tracks against their will.

In a lot of these “pick 1 to kill” scenarios, people choose not to act because acting means you chose someone to die. Inaction means they died and you just did nothing. Easier to sleep at night regardless of the number dead lol.

The fat controller laughed. "You are wrong."

When the fat man on the bridge had no name 20% killed him, when he got a name 95% killed him, when he had a name and could stop the trolley problem 25% killed him.

That multi-track drifting ending has the same energy as the Zoo Race disco party he showed off way back in Poison Mushroom.

Also hilarious how Enelle is both utilitarian but then sometimes isn't

This is the greatest video I have ever seen, thank you NL for blessing us with this!

If this is the type of content we can expect from the more stream-heavy schedule I’m so down. Keep up he great content NL!

13:45 “If the situation is gonna to happen, and the only way we can intervene is to choose who dies, than we’re a murderer if we make the choice” -literally the next situation and he choose to hit the jock, XD-

idk what im about to watch but im always down for a NL video

This is one of the funniest bangers you've produced

So let me get this straight. NL believed they were all there willingly, and that the right choice was to hit the people who put themselves on the dangerous track. Yet in one scenario a head in a jar had its life support put on the tracks, which it obviously couldn't have done itself, he chose to hit the life support. That was literally the only scenario there where someone was on the tracks against their will (from his perspective) and without hesitation he broke his own logic to murder them.

"Plus, we just created three new jobs." LMAO no shot made me laugh good one xD

Little disappointed he didn't even notice the joke in the stats with the Steele Dossier problem

this is probably one of my favorite videos you've ever done

Geralt of Riva: "...But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all."

I bet that Steele Dossier bit is going to kill five years from now.

A more efficient trolly problem, would be that one will be randomly selected to die if you do nothing. Therefore, you must decide which one you would chose, or risk an unwanted outcome. This would get rid of the,"they were on the track situation"

I appreciate they've added the bridge to the thought experiment, the way it should be

"evil is evil regardless of magnitude. If I am to pick between a 'lesser' and a 'greater' evil, I'd rather not choose at all" -Gerald of rivia

6:25 "Plus we just created three jobs." God, I spit my tea. Hilarious.

Basically, if they weren’t tied down, if there stupid enough to stand on the tracks, the hafta vanish

I would be pissed if I was just watching TV, and then all of a sudden they're like "now you're getting hit by a train."

I love how much of a meme egg’s channel is becoming its great

plottwist! There is a man with a gun offscreen holding everyone hostage.

Hey NL, that's a great video, I found that watching it while on a train track really increased the immersion... Hey, is that a train heading my way?

"Plus we just created three new jobs" 0_0 This is one of my new favs. I was cracking up at the bazooka scene.

I can already tell this is going to be amazing

"Stick to his guns" lie detector determined, that was a lie

I've never been so instantly pogged in my life

13:56 “If we pull the level we are a murder but if we don’t we did nothing wrong.” Proceeds to kill a jock by pulling the lever.

They should have one where there is someone on the main track trying to rescue someone on the diverted track who isn't supposed to be there and got stuck.

8:30 This is the same as switching tracks and killing 1 person while saving 3 or 5. It's the same problem rephrased.

We truly are in a golden Era of content this year already

NL. Every game you play I never played. But for some reason your vibe is what keeps me Watching. Keep it up brother.

Egg daddy, thank you for blessing us with this amazing series of videos today

"They shouldn't be on the tracks!" They're workers. What if it's a run away trolly car? Regular people shouldn't be standing on train tracks ever, and I feel like that might make a difference.

Luigi does nothing and still feels smug.

Man philosophers would have a field day with this guys logic

In the philosophical sense, refusal of action is a choice. You are actively choosing one over the other, even when you "don't choose". That what makes it a problem.

"If the situation is going to happen and the only way we can intervene is to choose who dies, then we're a murder if we make the choice" Literally 5 seconds later >Choses to kill the Jock.

Malf bully joke got me

I personally think that failing to act is just as important as acting. If someone dies by my hand, that is as bad as me choosing not to save them.

I think the biggest problem is that the trolly problem works because everyone is unwilling and the models they use are just standing there, so you can interpret them choosing to be there.

I was kinda iffy when he said he'll bring more Twitch content to YT but honestly I'm loving these weird 1 or 2-ofs

"chat don't look" I lost it

Eggman's content just keeps getting better

When posed with the exact trolley problem of the man on the bridge, does exactly as predicted and then asks "I dont know if I'm playing this wrong"

I like how this whole video implies that Ryan just wouldn't save a person. "Oh God help, I set myself on fire accidentally!" "Sorry buddy I'm neutral on this."

"What if it's a baby?" "[I want to make that decision]"

i’m gonna need three hours of this

Multi tracko dorifto caught me off guard at the end, pretty cool

NL comes out strong in favour of enhanced interrogation.

3:26 Not even 5 minutes in and already jaywalking is used as an argument. This is gonna be good. Edit: Nevermind it's the ultimate argument. Thanks NL for opening my eyes.

20:30 Here that argument doesn't grip because a disembodied head can neither avoid nor bring itself in danger.

if you are standing on the track, you are not a bystander. you are a trackstander.

Omg they made ethics into a real thing

The "meta VR" line by the robot aged like fine vine.

Well. The main thing is that the trolley IS without control. The people on the mainline are working/standing there because they think the trolley is working fine and will not run them over.

OH GOD. The plot twist of him killing the 5 workers in the end. Also his mom dying. From that point on it was the best drama I've ever seen.