Sonic 1 Prototype (& Knuckles) - But does it work on Real Hardware?

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Prototypes don't always work on their intended console! But will the Sonic 1 Prototype pass?
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Dreams come true! The Sonic 1 Prototype has finally been found and is now available for everyone to play. It was initially streamed over at Hidden Palace but it was emulated. So, it's my duty to see if the Sonic 1 Beta works on real hardware. And let's attach it to Sonic & Knuckles too; why not?
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Sonic 1 Prototype found
0:55 - Why wouldn't it work?
1:26 - Sonic 1 Prototype overview
6:26 - Will the TMSS be fussy?
6:34 - Wondermega/CDX/Nomad compatibility
6:42 - Does Sonic 1 Prototype work on real hardware?
7:04 - Getting Knuckles involved
7:35 - Sonic 1 Prototype & Knuckles
9:26 - The results from Sonic 1 & Knuckles
9:41 - Conclusion
Sonic 1 Prototype & Knuckles - Perfect run of the special stage: • Sonic 1 Prototype & Kn...
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DOWNLOADS:
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SOURCES:
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Dreams Come True: Sonic 1 Prototype news: hiddenpalace.org/News/Dreams_...
Sonic 1 Prototype cart images: hiddenpalace.org/Sonic_the_He...
Sonic 1 Tokyo Toy Show images: tcrf.net/Prerelease:Sonic_the...
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Комментарии : 559

@Garrulous64 3 года назад

I'm really hoping that that "holy grail" build gets found someday, it looks really interesting!

@staceyroberts1251 3 года назад

Hello I'm first to commet here, lol

@Yellowpick10 3 года назад

I call it the J90 demo "prototype", since it is part of a bigger Toy Show ROM.

@NunofYerbizness 3 года назад

There's many prototypes that I would consider holy grails, but Sonic 1's TTS demo is the only one I can think of that's for a Sega console (other than a Sonic 3 build early or later enough to feature all the Sonic & Knuckles zones in their original pre-3C states). Every other sought-after prototype I can think of is for Nintendo, and also a few PS1 stuff.

@NathatheBizarreFox 3 года назад

It would be great to see a fully working "holy grail" build in our hands some day

@Dan-379 3 года назад

@@NathatheBizarreFox What's so special about it?

@toadmushead8177 3 года назад

The Madlad Did It... He Attached Sonic & Knuckles To Sonic 1 Prototype

@JavaCake 3 года назад

Yep

@YoshiLikesFate 3 года назад

He did something that Sega cant

@evdestroy5304 3 года назад

@@YoshiLikesFate But they can...

@YoshiLikesFate 3 года назад

@@evdestroy5304 no i mean the fact that he used the prototype which if im not mistaken, could not be read by the Sonic and Knuckles.

@Renegade666 3 года назад

...& KNUCKLES

@andknuckles101 3 года назад

Can we just appreciate the sheer amount of effort that goes into each and every one of this guy's videos? Like, really, he tests these things dozens of times to get the most accurate results... that must take ages. It's absolutely brilliant. Keep up the good work, redhotsonic.

@smt4090 3 года назад

Spicy Peppers

@mark030a 3 года назад

And the editing + style of the videos feel so professional yet he has such a low amount of subscribers...Man, I love this channel!

@andknuckles101 3 года назад

@@mark030a He'll be at 100k by the end of the year, I bet you

@mark030a 3 года назад

@@andknuckles101 I sure hope so! RedHotSonic deserves it!

@TuxerTuxar 3 года назад

Sonic @@andknuckles101.

@athing18 3 года назад

Honestly, it's super awesome to see that redhotsonic is still part of the Sonic community after all these years. I remember your content from the 2000s, and the dedication after almost 20 years is truly admirable. Cheers to you, friend!

@Curlyheart Год назад

Honoka

@ShiningProdigyTAS 3 года назад

New title: Sonic before he was famous: but does it work on Real Hardware?

@NovaCore777 3 года назад

2:22 We almost had another barrel of doom situation here, it's a good thing that it was changed to function with a button in the final.

@Renegade666 3 года назад

im still baffled how anyone got stuck here, like, it got this game when it came out and literally on my fist try i worked out how to do the barrel. it wasnt fucking rocket science!

@0n1c420 3 года назад

There are many barrels like why you never try those

@thisnameisbad3609 2 месяца назад

@@Renegade666tails jumps landing seems to push it down a bit no crouching sprite (unless ur in origins) to communicate that up and down do anything

@videotape2959 Месяц назад

No, all you have to do is to jump on it.

@miqueasgonzalez4015 3 года назад

Finally, a prototype that we thought was lost is here!!

@tailsbread 3 года назад

Maybe one day we’ll get the toy store prototype

@miwiki6 3 года назад

now to that first prototype that has the mountains and stuff i know it's probably lost but... a man can dream...

@MirrorHall_Clay 3 года назад

Honestly finding the Tokyo Toy Show demo would be insane at this point Sega couldn't even find it themselves to put in Mega Collection nearly two decades ago

@LocalAitch 3 года назад

4:36 If I'm understanding what I saw in the object layout correctly, that's actually object $19, set to be loaded into the respawn table, and with two different subtypes (subtype $14 at X:1B60 Y:0388, and subtype $7A at X:1BD8 Y:0180). Object $19 is the same object as the GHZ ball

@sleekflash16 3 года назад

9:53 Holy cow! I was not expecting so see my scan here. This whole video was pretty fun to watch.

@Yellowpick10 3 года назад

Lol

@Etendo 3 года назад

0:00 X-treme music. As an X-treme fan, I appreciate this.

@autosaver 3 года назад

The “ray of light” background of the beta may have inspired Sonic 4’s labyrinth background.

@Sparkette 3 года назад

8:43 In this case, I'd consider it more like "unhacking" the ROM. The test gave an inaccurate result because your flashcart was the wrong size; all that your edit did was compensate for this and make it behave like the original cart would have.

@DenilsonSa 2 года назад

That is correct. On a real hardware, a 1Mb ROM chip is connected to one extra address line (i.e. one extra copper wire) than a 512kb chip. This means the higher bit(s) are ignored on smaller ROM chips, which means they essentially loop over and are available many times through the adress space.

@Seven71987 3 года назад

The Background of Sparking Zone was just so so busy, busy busy busy.

@brayden6449 3 года назад

Don’t you just love Clock Ork Zone?

@Bond101Studios 3 года назад

I think Metronome Elf Zone is better, but that’s my personal opinion.

@brayden6449 3 года назад

Can’t forget about Pendulum Pixie Zone though.

@redacculous 3 года назад

What about Time Gnome Zone?

@mateomeza1278 Год назад

It's Clock Work Zone.

@classicsonicplays4231 3 года назад

Poor knux had to sit on the bench as he couldn’t be in the prototype. Press f to pay respects

@andknuckles101 3 года назад

@roboblastmania3328 3 года назад

@megaslofththecommenter2800 3 года назад

@0n1c420 3 года назад

Okay I have my keyboard

@0n1c420 3 года назад

@toinejaktheonly6082 3 года назад

Bro, we'll be dead by the time that Toyshow demo is found

@AidGum 3 года назад

Unless time travel is invented before that.

@zbear2763 8 месяцев назад

wait, he’s got a point

@MIXNMARK 2 года назад

I love your BDIWORH videos, they're so full of details and everything, keep up the great work!

@shyguymike 3 года назад

Whoever is translating your videos into polish, he's freaking speed!

@redhotsonic 3 года назад

He is it and it is Google translate 😅

@shyguymike 3 года назад

@@redhotsonic Ohhhhhh, well now the amount of translations makes sense. For a moment I thought you might know like... 10 languages.

@szonig_pl3024 3 года назад

Big pog, Poland rules 😌

@Parcel_GT 2 месяца назад

🇵🇱

@staceyroberts1251 3 года назад

This is a great video, REDHOTSONIC! I hope you stay Super Sonic Always!!

@ros9764 3 года назад

I have been waiting for this video for too long, man. But glad it's finally here!

@Aranesque 3 года назад

Man, you're killing it with the shots! You got so good with the camera and video editing! Love your work dude

@PNG_Noodle 3 года назад

Thanks for everything you do, RHS :)

@Geneo-en5km 3 года назад

Love your dedication to these videos @RedHotSonic... You never fail us on making sure all that can be seen and done... You do. Thanks Brother

@user-ku3sr7cl3u 3 года назад

Funny mention at 1:43. Idk if someone’s said it yet, but this glitch occurs if you take damage, then land on a spring. It causes the rings to become uncollectable, and makes invincibility last for a while. You can also pull it off in spring yard where the spike-bouncer thing is next to the spring at the beginning.

@redhotsonic 3 года назад

Just tried it out. The spring is indeed the cause of the problem. Interesting...

@Imfernolistico 3 года назад

RHS, you never dissapoint with your videos. Good job!

@floppaz13 3 года назад

Seems that now we literally have an blue sphere's proto...

@Sparkette 3 года назад

That glitch at 1:43 happened to me in an emulator a couple times. Both the long invulnerability time and not being able to pick up rings.

@LUSProductionsOfficial 4 месяца назад

My guess as to why this happened in that instance was because he bounced off of spikes & onto a spring pad.

@Dan-379 3 года назад

4:25 Those are actually air pockets.

@NunofYerbizness 3 года назад

That's just a theory that I made up from looking at the Labyrinth maps on TCRF's Discord server; About whether or not they _were_ meant to be air pockets, someone should ask whoever designed the game's levels.

@Dan-379 3 года назад

@@NunofYerbizness Well, they *could* be just a decoration; until we ask Kodama or Ishiwatari, these domes remain a mystery.

@NathatheBizarreFox 3 года назад

Sound select 92 is just the credits theme but it appears to be a bit broken

@cshapr4256 3 года назад

That intro brand back memory's since I never watched in a long time

@sonicmaster7677 3 года назад

3:57 Karate redhotsonic!!

@waltercomunello121 3 года назад

that prototype background in Labyrinth would have been really awesome. reminds me so strongly of Hydrocity.

@kirbyfan18yt 3 года назад

Im glad that at least 1 of the sonic 1 prototype builds has been found and i will make a video playing it

@antoniodavimarquesdesouza7803 3 года назад

This video was amazing!

@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 3 года назад

I have a feeling the earliest prototype(s) wouldn’t run on stock hardware but it could be a treat if they exist and run!

@NathatheBizarreFox 3 года назад

Yes

@DONK8008 3 года назад

Theres no real reason they wouldn't. The dev hardware back then plugged into a standard console, so if an intact ROM was found there is good chance it will run on hardware.

@olds86307 2 года назад

@@DONK8008 "Theres no real reason they wouldn't." Sonic Crackers:

@ls190v2 6 месяцев назад

Kudos, red and Buckaroo. Kudos.

@AidGum 3 года назад

I kind of like Sparkling Zone's background, but my eyes say that changing it to Spring Yard was for the better.

@farjanasiful4750 3 года назад

I say they keep the old backround but keep the name spring yard

@Pacca64 3 года назад

I still can't believe we finally have one!

@SluggishRain 3 года назад

The glitch where you couldn’t recollect your rings and had long invincibility frames was from getting hit and then landing on a spring.

@DUFFYISBACK 3 года назад

this is a really good channel

@yoshicakes 3 года назад

Thanks man, I asked for this.

@roberttractortaylor 3 года назад

I didn't attach the S&K cart to it in my video, but I did play it on my modded 68010 model 1. It didn't affect the physics slow down, however my vanilla model 2 froze playing the proto. Glad to see you also rode the Indiana Jones Boulder. 😂

@lohoeferconstruction32 3 года назад

1:26 I really like those drums

@ultracaustic1588 2 года назад

As a people, for whom english isn't native language, thanks for subtitles and clear pronunciation. Very interesting video and information,a big work was done to do this content. Thanks!

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 3 года назад

I'd _kind_ of heard of this but thought it was just yet another beta recreation, had no idea it was the real thing until this video!

@Jack_Animatez62 2 года назад

It's been 2 years since I've watched your videos

@christopherperez2322 3 года назад

Redhotsonic:finds a glitch Tetra bit gaming:now this looks like a job for me a motive,fella?

@epicstar86 3 года назад

Very cool video

@dissapointednightborger 3 года назад

Yup! I waited for this!

@WickerBasket9 2 года назад

I absolutely LOVE the background Labyrinth Zone had in the prototype! It really beats the one we had in the later/final ROM.

@valsonic4137 3 года назад

We still need to find the Tokyo toy show demo

@jebkerman7199 3 года назад

I won’t say that would be impossible as the sonic 1 prototype was found but it’s unlikely.

@valsonic4137 3 года назад

I just want the real thing

@PhirePhlame 3 года назад

I remember at one point during the Hidden Palace reveal stream, spikes were hit and I found myself thinking "how long has he been invincible???".

@blindhouse4744 3 года назад

Muy interesantes y adictivos como siempre tus videos Sonic Rojo

@andresbravo2003 3 года назад

Hello RHS, thank you very much. You are very welcome to this new video!

@themcguinnessexperiment617 3 года назад

Probably the longest 24 hour wait ever XD I've been waiting impatiently for this one, but I've no doubt that this is gonna be amazing! Edit: it was. Great video!

@joseh.749 3 года назад

I have been expecting this video.....

@ct1660 3 года назад

If you press START during the Special Stage, it will stop the maze's rotation, apart from pressing A for clockwise rotation or B for counter-clockwise rotation. As this build predates the Reverse posts, it makes sense they needed a way to make navigating the maze easier as well as test the maze rotation.

@dbnpoldermans4120 3 года назад

Awesome how you truly test it out! Now sure if this applies to Megadrive flash carts, but for my Master System everdrive when I take out the sd card, the Master Everdrive will just boot the last loaded game. Perhaps that also applies to MD flash carts. Perhaps you already know that!

@gameboi20 3 года назад

nice vid as allwaays jake

@vegas276. 3 года назад

shooting lines from tv shows never gets old

@cabbusses 3 года назад

Have you run any particular stress/corruption tests for crashes that would not happen on emulation?

@bowlerboy12345678910 2 года назад

This is a great video as always redhotsonic I am curious if this prototype rom and other roms that you’ve shown in other videos would work on the @games Sega Genesis and on the HyperKin Retron 5 I have both consoles and would like to try them as they both can read actual Cartriges and Roms from SD Card what are your thoughts on this

@Dec_TGM 2 года назад

4:22 I think this is unused background is what Sega and paramount used in the Sonic The Hedgehog 2 movie above the labyrinth that Knuckles, Robotnik, and Sonic traverse through to get to the Master Emerald.

@Oysterblade84 3 года назад

I honestly didn't think this was going to be your next video, I thought ''Sonic 2 Anniversary'' was more in line for the next release or maybe something more obscure, I mean nearly every second comment on your last video was from loud mouths demanding you to upload this which I thought was quite rude, but anyway it's done now. I enjoyed your video although there was not much that I didn't know already about this proto. Keep up the great work RHS.

@redhotsonic 3 года назад

Well, it's a proto of the very first game so I can see why everyone was excited but yeah. I knew I had to get this out fast. Two BDIWORH videos within 6 days has made me exhausted. This week, time with my family!

@halimaahmed7480 3 года назад

This dude did it. Ledgend.

@gingermario08 3 года назад

Hi redhotsonic I'm a big fan

@justanotheryoutubechannel 3 месяца назад

Wow, what’s that outro music? I really like it!

@supakusuta 3 года назад

Nice video.

@N8-Feds 2 года назад

The ball at the start was kinda cool

@pepeto0906 3 года назад

Gracias por los subtítulos amigo ✌️

@Mr_Nicky229 3 года назад

New Subscriber 🦔

@GamePunk-nm3cn 3 года назад

Nice that you used Sonic Xtreme music

@memeboi6913 3 года назад

Excuse me but When are you gonna try the Sonic 2 prototypes you covered and the sonic 3 prototype with sonic and knuckles attached

@itsNikash. 3 года назад

The prototypes are totally real. Perhaps we'll get one for every Sonic entry as time goes by. This prototype wasn't too bad for what it had to offer with a few hit and miss moments, but that's expected. Would have been nice to see splats make an appearance in the final version. At least they did in Mania. Superb job on the technicality of Sonic 1 Prototype (& Knuckles). You made the almost impossible, possible.

@glitchy8309 3 года назад

It's been 30 years in the waiting

@shroomyboiakabigboydru10ex85 3 года назад

Man I remember watching his videos

@TheBrazilRules Год назад

It is bizarre how much the background in Marble Zone looks like the Saturn one

@marsoulini 3 года назад

Honestly I love this man. he does anything to satisfy both himself, and his audience!! I'll always be following your content, RedHotSonic :)

@Renegade666 3 года назад

this is for all intents and purposes the Nick Arcade beta featured in the pilot episode

@MinecrafterPictures 3 года назад

Fun Fact: Sound #92 is the drowning sound. Which means that of you somehow try to drown the game crashes because the drowning music crashes the game

@Turbulation1 3 года назад

There is no water in the prototype, also the music crashes mainly only because of invalid pointers.

@hypercosmicthehedgehog1525 3 года назад

Man the fact that we finally found a Sonic 1 prototype is still so cool i am glad that we finally have a prototype of all the Genesis Sonic games.

@DanknDerpyGamer 3 года назад

** A prototype for each Genesis Sonic game

@TheGarfster 3 года назад

I pretty much assumed this *would* work on real hardware (and it truly did), but this man went over the top adding the & Knuckles segment. I have nothing to say about the proto itself other than I was *very* surprised when I found out about Hidden Palace streaming it. The Sonic & Knuckles attachment segment really surprised me, though. While the "No Way" screen appeared in mostly a tint of blue, that special stage shown does look rather interesting but challenging. PS: I don't know why it says S3 has 5 protos and S&K has 7, but with the Sonic 3C/Special Edition (3C does not refer to the hack, just Special Edition) protos, the S&K 0525 proto and the November 20, 1993 build, I assume those would count towards each game's total count due to the fact 3C was supposed to be both games put together, one was an early S&K locked onto Sonic 3, and the later 1993 build was an altered final game.

@TeleKamptiA 2 года назад

YOUR ACCENT IS GODLIKE.

@BluCoolKnux 3 года назад

0:14 There’s a Sonic Bash box on the shelf! I see what you hid there!

@chili_dogs1 8 месяцев назад

i was actually able to recreate the bug where you had more invincibility frames by falling on spikes and then landing on a spring

@AnthonyMario08 3 года назад

You just needed to include that (& knuckles)

@miwiki6 3 года назад

this video is great.

@marcioaugusto20 3 года назад

I hope the holy grail come soon.

@Blitz_Productions 3 года назад

Possible video idea: Sonic 3 prototype (& knuckles)

@tonyacatlett3683 Год назад

3:05 I wonder if this could be inspiration for stardust speedway or speed highway in Sonic adventure

@feiwong3634 3 года назад

I just have to say that the Sonic fan base has to be one of the most passionate of the video game realm. I just love Sonic, waaaaay back since the first one was released in Mega Drive, and I still play and collect Sonic games, I have now 2 sons and they love it too and we play together. The only other video-game series that did the same is Mario. The 2 most powerful brands.