Sonic 3's Launch Base: Music Theory 

Prototype most likely.

@@SyntaxTsundere It'd be cool if they made whole new tracks for the levels though

I mean, they probably know how hype Sonic 3's return is, so I don't see them using the prototype music. That's just a reflection of how I think, though. If I was calling the shots there, then using the proto songs would just feel like a massive cut corner.

@@PhirePhlame People are gonna be so mad and confused if their childhood music is gone. Especially in ice cap.

@@josephwilson3180 -"If it's good" please don't say you mean the others are bad...- Edited cause it was a typo and was meant to be "if it's gone"

I’d disagree, I think it fits well.

Same here.

:)

I feel it depends on the palette. The prototype has a pink sky and groggy green Death Egg, signifying it's morning, with the music sounding similar to a wake up call for soldiers. The final game uses a bright blue sky with a brighter brownish color for the Death Egg. The music and the palette in this case help create the mood of the sun beating down on you and the rest of the level.

I disagree, when I was in elementary school and playing this stage this music helped me feel the intensity and artificial nature of the stage. The "go" pushes you along to destroy the egg. But I also don't play music and am filled with nostalgia prolly.

same

But... how does one perform the action of "GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! GO! G-G-GO GO"?

@@polkadi by going

@@olds86307 Did you mention going? Lol

@@GolfClash2718 what

It's so good to see you back dude. I'm a musician myself and grew up with these games. I have always been very enthralled by Sonic music and how it works. It's cool to see someone else with that same spirit!

Hell yeah :D

yahoo weeehehehe

@@unity6926 Okay Goofy

Woo Hoo! thanks for the informative and cool vids dude

The editing is amazing, that's probably why it took so long.

Me too, launch base has killer tunes. It feels fast and artificial which goes along with the fast paced "random" path feel you get your first time playing the stage.

"Random path" I mean like you're going through a building who's construction and layout are unknown to you. Those tubes are important, but you don't know why. It feels purposeful, but the purpose is unknown to the player and Sonic.

So your saying the released version is "underrated"? Boy.. Launch Base is probably the most loved song from Sonic 3

The used S3 version makes me feel like there's something coming up ahead more than anything

O.o Wait, you're still active?!

I saw your video AGES ago when it FIRST came out! awesome to see you still around!

Qjimbo, you are the reason why Sonic Origins are using the prototype tracks. If it wasn’t for your breakthrough discovery about MJ’s connection with Sonic 3, we would be having the MJ tracks in Sonic 3 in Origins today. So it’s all your fault.

@@jackscalfani555 actually it's the fault of all the fans who refused to shut up about MJ. Legit, I know of no other person who plays... Any other game in any other franchise that talks about MJ.

@@jackscalfani555 Actually, it's not Qjimbo, nor the fans' fault, but Sega who didn't paid MJ's team properly. Cirocco clearly stated this to a Sonic retro member back in 2012: "I believe that there is a lawsuit going on or about to go on. Sega owes a lot of people money from the Sonic stuff. Speak with Bobby Brooks. He may tell you a LOT more about everything....." Bobby never answered anyone who contacted him about Sonic stuff, until this moment: "what do u want? from me ? why do u want to know? you can contact my lawyer first off I don't know who u are or what you really want you don't have anything to do with my personal biz so why would I just give info to a stranger while *im in the middle of some legal shit .* tis is my personal biz so if you don't mind quit asking me about my biz" The most likely reason for this *(speculation, but it does makes sense),* is that Sega executives at japan were tired of paying royalties to Masato Nakamura, literally the reason why they resorted to their in-house team for compositions. Since royalties *are not obligated by law and depends on the contract,* Jackson probably signed a contract without thinking much (the false allegations and everything at the time), for which Sega could use these tracks, but only on sonic 3, and not have to pay royalties. Why japanese executives and not the Sega of america ones? Tom Kalinske said "If Jackson was involved or not, it's none of my knowledge." Considering Jackson was not credited, it's difficult to know if his estate is involved into this or not, but it seems the contract expired when he sadly passed away. Jackson died in June 2009, sonic 3 had *three more rereleases after this, with the songs intact.* Sonic PC Collection, a compilation that bundles various sonic games released exclusively in PAL territories in 2009, Sonic Classic Collection on the Nintendo DS in 2010, and finally, for Steam in 2011. Jackson's team could finally sue sega, demanding the money they always owed them for. Sadly, Sega choose the cheapest way, and that's why I'm not buying Sonic Origins, or any future rereleases if they don't get the MJ team's tracks on it again.

I think they were going for a country type tune there. Really creative when it seems like most of the other tracks have these funky, western-style themes

I believe it was AVGN who called it something akin to the “Roseanne harmonica” and I haven’t been able to unhear it since.

The continue screen uses the same harmonica

I didn't know harmonicas make my my ears bleed

Thank God someone else hears the Hill Top synth as harmonica, it seems like every remix/remake uses trumpets and it drives me nuts

Thank you for watching with an attentive eye! Mistakes are certainly possible, and with a source backing it, corrections can definitely be added to the description.

Well, a data sheet isn't a source in itself, and it's hard to reconcile that with the multiple search results that indicate Run DMC's Peter Piper. I'm not super familiar with the industry of sample CDs, but could it be possible that the clip was taken from the song itself and put on that sample CD? PS This isn't meant to be defensive, I do appreciate people pointing out things like this!

Not a mistake at all. The ZeroG compiler took samples from a multitude of sources. The Go sample featured there indeed comes from Run DMC's song, which was already out for at least 5 years. Some people think it's the opposite as some samples there are dry without effects, but the guy took them from the multitracks he had of the original songs. I believe he had acess to studio tapes or similar. A guy uncovered the origin of many of the Zero G samples here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mnx7EBUHv_s.html

Hello

I think Angel Island Zone has the best balance of the 2 Act themes, not too similar, but not too different, and it tells a story with the music

Yep. The only tracks I like better is Carnival Night 2, and the Super theme

Ice cap Act 2 is Act 1 with different parts (bass, percussion, etc) coming in and out at different times. The four bars before the melody first comes in sound exactly like the first like 16 bars of Act 1. Personally I like the 1 to 2 music differences of all the zones except Carnival Night and Launch Base (final), they're just too similar. Maybe Marble Garden too.

@@nthgth marble garden's really different though

MJ Act 2's are far too similar to their act 1 versions and honestly makes me prefer the prototype Act 2 themes even more. Proto Carnival Night music should've made it into the final game.

I like the prototype act 2 theme. Regarding act 1's theme, I have to say, I prefer the one that ended up in the final release

I do actually! I love it's progression

Michael Jackson's Launch Base music is better than proto Launch Base

I do, but it's definitely the closest call for me with the choices. The final version is amazing also, but I think it fits less when you're playing through the entire S3K

I don't Proto Launch Base sounds like clown music and IceCap 2 hurts your ears. CNZ its cool tho

Yes, Mr Copeland!

Hahah you are so funny, i will laugh in november 69 9022

Thankfully knuckles ended amogus's life 🥶

Ikr I love the mcihael jackson tracks!

@@ericsmith1783 Yeah me too but I was talking about the prototype music

As in Launch Base is your favorite music track from a Sonic game, or are you literally saying that Sonic Jam is your favorite?

@@NunofYerbizness 😂 lbz is my fave

5:50 Sega may have used it as an /robotnik's army approaches/ kind of thing

wrong opinion bro

Didn't even notice he only had 5k subs until I read this. I notice a lot of these small Sonic channels are surprisingly professional.

Sonic 2 had way more levels than either s3 or s&k(despite the levels being rather short and linear) and... Nobody really cares about story or storytelling, espesually when such storytelling falls flat for 1996 games.

It's rather way less than the intended S3&K, of course it's more than one of two halfs of the game that was cut in half lol. But I guess you're trying to say that not everyone realized this or don't want to call a two cartrige pyramid a single experience. I don't think Sonic 2 was too linear, but half of Sonic 2 zones are generally way less perfected in terms of game design and visual appeal, obviously because of time constraints and a bit less experience at the time. Also, Sonic 2 too did a nice step into mute storytelling with last, unfortunately, crude zones, and I completely disagree that nobody cares about this, as I see people admiring such touches to a lot of games even from NES era, where the game gets more intense and has a logical conclusion to the adventure, nicely paced and spiced up with visual and sound design specifically to convey the mood.

@@DSG965 not every one wants or wanted to call two cathridges a single experience due to Sonic 3 costing the same amount as Sonic 2. Same goes for sonic & knuckles. That just ain't cool. Sonic 2 levels aren't that linear, but they are short. Short in terms there isn't much to do and you can just speed to the end without too many obstacles. Take chemical plant for an example. It's big but is basically a speedway. Subjectively speaking, due to nostalgia "mute storytelling" which Sonic 2 & sonic 3 have might have some value. Some fanboys and kids who grew up with it might care. But the general population could care less as the general population are not nerds/fanboys. And when you get past nostalgia and don't have much care for "limitations", you realize any type of story telling, competitively does not matter as it comes off as almost nothing when compared to the games which were released on the playstation 1.

Do you have an SC-55 and would you be able to upload a video with an FM track when playing through it? I'd be very interested in comparing the SC-55 FM version to the FM MIDI when played through a Yamaha OPL3 because the OPL3 version sounds pretty respectable when compared to the Genesis originals (for what they are).

@@superrayman3 There's a fairly accurate SC-55 soundfont out there (thanks to the fact the instruments can't be directly programmed - they're all baked in in their settings), but I've been needing to save up and pony up for the truly real thing. I expect results to be 99.7% the same anyway. I was admittedly hoping Alex Yard had access to one.

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