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Sonic LAB: Roland Tr-08 Boutique Drum Machine 

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Another Roland reboot of the classic 808 drum machine, this time in Boutique format - its a pretty authentic recreation of the classic, with some nice modern features - multi-channel USB audio for one. Gaz Williams, takes a trip down memory lane.
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@machiwoomiapoo
@machiwoomiapoo 6 лет назад
Excellent video Gaz! I always enjoy your personality. :) I bought the TR-08 when it came out and the TR-808 last year. I did a comparison video of the two and I feel this new version is pretty close to the original. And after working with the TR-808 for the last year I really love the new functions they offered on it. Thanks for making this wonderful video. I love the Roland Boutique line. After carrying around the originals for the last year it sure makes it more convenient to move around. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
@SynthgodXXX
@SynthgodXXX 6 лет назад
Still planning on getting this! It will fit good in a mix & my budget! Thank you for this video!!
@mCKENIC
@mCKENIC 6 лет назад
Thanks Gaz and SonicState! Pretty much decided I wanted one soon as they were teased - your review has only cemented that idea:-)
@alanchan6275
@alanchan6275 4 года назад
Thanks , Gaz! What a nice review! I just got mine a week ago for about HK$2,000 on sale which was great. I also owned a TR505 which was a nice machine too but I’ve found theTR08 to be having a lotta fun to work with.
@Zeal808
@Zeal808 6 лет назад
Just bought mine today, fun to have a stand alone drum machine
@Pulsonar
@Pulsonar 2 года назад
This is a very good product review, good intro of nearly all features and a run through of what is plugged in and not (reviewers are often crap at explaining the ports) a good practical demo of this calibre is just what I need to crack on and learn how to program my new TR-08.
@Xmaster1990
@Xmaster1990 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for the Video. Bought a tr-08 the other Day but totally did not got into it.had no idea how to program.with your vid i finally got into it and can use it now.
@NicenEasyuk
@NicenEasyuk 6 лет назад
Love it Gaz! Real blue peter vibe to this sonic LAB (in a great way!) Merry Christmas all!
@JesseJuup
@JesseJuup 6 лет назад
Thanks Gaz! Great review!
@MrBasic
@MrBasic 6 лет назад
Nice. Good to show it does have separate outs into DAWs. Also good you mentioned the TR-8 for everyone who prefers the practical. The 08 is all about the look and history.
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 6 лет назад
Got mine recently. Thought the small knobs and buttons would be a problem with my large f'd up handz but so far I am too busy having fun twerkin' da knerbz to notice any such problem. The unit while small, seems quite tight/solid/not cheap. Even the tiny button things seem better than larger ones on another "groove box" I've got. And it's solid metal case is a nice thing to feel in the winter. Convenient adjustable angle stand thing is a nice touch and comes in handy. Most importantly it sounds plenty "phat" for real! I can understand how this may not be for "most" musicians but it works well for me... a DAW-less "producer" who loves little hardware gadgets and lots of fun effects.
@TheDazlermac
@TheDazlermac 6 лет назад
Great review again Gaz
@oscillationcommunications709
@oscillationcommunications709 10 месяцев назад
Having Gaz and Nick represent Sonicstate is one of the absolute benefits of the core. Both have deep passions for their demos,and it shows. What a great team.⚡️ I’m not sure if they’ve worked together on music and live shows,but I bet that combo would rock.⚡️
@PolskiAmbient
@PolskiAmbient 5 лет назад
thank you, I've enjoyed watching you. now need to buy it ;]
@VR360TV
@VR360TV 6 лет назад
Great video, thanks Gaz : )
@brocktunes
@brocktunes 5 лет назад
apologies if someone already asked this/got it answered, but what other drum machine/software combo allows you to record and split all the parts into separate tracks all at once like what he does at 15 minutes in??
@brmh1667
@brmh1667 2 года назад
Very informative without being too OTT on tech details. Thanks.
@kbdkbd99
@kbdkbd99 6 лет назад
Entertaining review thankyou Gaz.
@AdamsAbstract
@AdamsAbstract 6 лет назад
Amazing choice of t-shirt there Gaz
@johnk6312
@johnk6312 6 лет назад
Very helpful tips here,eg i couldn't figure out the copying of patterns so I'll try reversing it like this guy.
@brandonbanks32278
@brandonbanks32278 5 лет назад
THAT DEFINING MOMENT THOUGH @18:40 GAZ... YOU TOUCH MY SOUL WITH SUCH EXPRESSION OF LOGICAL CURIOUSITY!
@salvadoreec
@salvadoreec 4 года назад
Excellent demo! Thanks!
@terrybeach3269
@terrybeach3269 6 лет назад
I own various drum machines including the Roland Tr-08, and found a 808 menu on one of my old drum machines, a Dr-5 I had from the maybe mid 90's and the sound on that sounds remarkably like my Tr-08 in quality...
@tctheripper
@tctheripper 6 лет назад
Thanks for this, super informative.
@Tinyvince1971
@Tinyvince1971 6 лет назад
i feel your enthusiasm gaz...same like mine. Best machine from roland.
@nano-onemusic4119
@nano-onemusic4119 7 месяцев назад
Best Overview so far thanks 😀
@FreonTheFrozen
@FreonTheFrozen 6 лет назад
Great presentation Gaz.
@apislapis
@apislapis 6 лет назад
I was unable to afford an 808 in the 80s but was fortunate to purchase a second-hand 606, the poorman's 808, to go with my second-hand 101 and 202. From owning the 606, I recognise many of the features and the methodology for programming a Roland drum machine. Point 1. I love the nostalgia of programming drums in this way and it would perhaps, offer younger fans of electronic gear a different modus operandi for producing electronic music, which cannot be at all bad. 2. Many of the reviews of using the 808 by 808 owners comment on the fact that no two 808s sound the same due to the analogue technology available at the time. So it may be worth younger electronic enthusiasts noting that point when electronic 'officiandos' or mates become @rsy. Great review Gaz and well thought out as always.
@Th3LordZalor
@Th3LordZalor 6 лет назад
Channels over usb is a cool little feature, hope to see that more in the future.
@InflatablePlane
@InflatablePlane 5 лет назад
Now I wanna see a Boutique reissue of the LinnDrum so I won’t pay out the nose for a vintage one!
@redjack123
@redjack123 3 года назад
Me and you are on the same page
@lesperluettedupigeonnier3120
@lesperluettedupigeonnier3120 6 лет назад
le tshirt du groupe français MAGMA
@Claidheambmor
@Claidheambmor 4 года назад
Indeed - I adore Magma. :)
@projectz975
@projectz975 6 лет назад
anyone know if the trig out can be used as a gate signal for Microbrute?
@Spydamonkee
@Spydamonkee 6 лет назад
Sounds like AIRA engine in new small case with retro original 808 touch.
@philipgilligan_art
@philipgilligan_art 2 года назад
Hey hi, how do i set up cubase 11 pro on a mac so that I can record and hear plus see the multiple tracks via usb out of this please???? Big ask but I cannot find an answer on internet
@v10monster
@v10monster 6 лет назад
Hell yeah! Nice Magma shirt!
@ubahnrider1337
@ubahnrider1337 6 лет назад
9:35 the way you said that made me miss my british friends straight away :D great review!
@mrbreaker101
@mrbreaker101 6 лет назад
A lot of the potential customers for the TR-08 are people who have collected a good few of the other Boutiques and simply can't resist the nostalgic appearance.
@pekkagronfors7304
@pekkagronfors7304 6 лет назад
Great review.
@pozsoz
@pozsoz 6 лет назад
For a similar prize you can get the MFB Tanzmaus or the Tanzbar Lite which are analog (for the purists) and also have parameter locks and much more modulation probabilities, also separate outputs for when wanted or necessary. This one for me seems more like a really fun drum machine but not a serious one when compared to the other options in the market. I would still buy one just for the fun and looks of it.
@severeflows
@severeflows 6 лет назад
Can you play bass drum chromatically with a midi keyboard?
@theoneselve
@theoneselve 6 лет назад
does anyone knows music using drum machine like the video? im really gettin into it now
@futurfry
@futurfry 6 лет назад
Where can I get that amazing magma t???
@basehead617
@basehead617 6 лет назад
The knobs on the TR-808 instrument channels are even smaller than on the boutique
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 6 лет назад
THANK YOU. Finally someone points this out! Yeah the original 808 knobs are TINY! So what people are really bitching about is the lack of space between them. Which I was concerned about personally until I got one and honestly have less trouble with than the realestate on Volca series.
@ohstirfry
@ohstirfry 6 лет назад
The tb-03 comes with the dock in silver. So I’m a bit ticked off that the rest don’t come in the dock
@sullycliftona
@sullycliftona Год назад
Gaz my tr o6 won’t re set ,, plus. What’s next. Korg u no the one about 140 quid /with the sequencer , or behringer 303 replica ,, and I don’t use computers ,. Any tips on mixers ,,.cheers from briz
@ryanswinney395
@ryanswinney395 6 лет назад
Crazy, watching this at 8:08am
@steve-on7kl
@steve-on7kl 3 года назад
How does something like this compare to an equivalent VST? Is there a noticeable audible difference?
@acidtrip3309
@acidtrip3309 4 года назад
This guy is Freakin AWESOME
@twzstudio139
@twzstudio139 6 лет назад
I love Gaz William's enthusiasm, and it helps peak my interest in things, such as the boutique line, which generally do not appeal to me. The USB audio feature is quite nice, and would be a great asset for any drum machine. Nicely done, and entertaining as well.
@sergedrely2635
@sergedrely2635 5 лет назад
Very cool T shirt of Magma : the fantastic french progressive rock band with the fabulous drummer Christian Vander . Seventies was really an awesome period for music !
@pontram
@pontram 6 лет назад
Very good review, as a previous owner of an original 808 I was especially interested in the emulation of its workflow. The substep feature in particular is very promising as an enhancement, because for something like that you had to recreate your pattern then. However, I don't remember if the 808 forced you to have the same step number for A/B, which the TR-08 does (I just read that in the Tr-08-manual, but couldn't figure it out in the 808 manual).
@kellymerrill5294
@kellymerrill5294 6 лет назад
Roland got it right! Good review.
@NathanHassall
@NathanHassall 3 года назад
roland got it wrong. Behringer got it right.
@satyanpatel6403
@satyanpatel6403 6 лет назад
Gaz, as always excellent video. I bought the Roland TR-08 AIRA version when it came out and still haven't stopped tinkering with it. for a few more dollars the AIRA edition is well worth it. Especially for triggering your own samples via MIDI (if you have a sampler laying around) with the new firmware update. This boutique edition is just that. A boutique item. It's for those who are limited on space and have always wanted a piece of Roland history without the fuss, mess of trying to acquire the original. My TR-08 Aira edition can't quite sit in my lap while on the couch plus I am then tethered by the AC adapter, but this boutique edition one can add batteries and case and easily enjoy life on a commute on the bus or train / tube / subway. I know I would have easily picked it up if I didn't have to drive. Great review again as always, Gaz.
@richardscriven3750
@richardscriven3750 5 лет назад
Can you use this with the roland tb-3?
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 3 года назад
Sure. Midi out.
@wannes788
@wannes788 6 лет назад
Gotsta love that Magma shirt
@td4yd154
@td4yd154 3 года назад
So you can’t step edit (rearrange) the sounds on the laptop?
@Smooinator
@Smooinator 6 лет назад
Stereo mix is what windows calls an aggregate device (I'm guessing, never used a mac), it's just an option on the recording devices
@MarctheDarc
@MarctheDarc 6 лет назад
First a shout-out to all: Even if you're not gonna watch the whole thing, jump to 20:00 !!! Great review, Gaz' enthusiasm is quite contagious, but I've noticed several reviewers are starting to hit the nail on the head regarding the boutique series. Between the missing PSU and some weaknesses in the connectivity, they just seem a little too expensive. It's not actually about them being digital or any of that. And gotta say; that bottom end, especially on the closing jam.
@irasciblefox
@irasciblefox 4 года назад
Hello folks! I have really appreciated Sir Williams's examination on Tr-O8, I appreciating his accent very much, so i should ask you if there are any suggestion about A-O1 by Roland. I would like to know more of that machine before to buy and use it. Greatings from Pescara!
@42tehfloor
@42tehfloor 6 лет назад
If it acts as a decent controller for the cloud TR-808 vst then it might be worth getting
@markhall3323
@markhall3323 3 года назад
Gaz was only 46 when the original 808 came out
@alanladdseinekatze859
@alanladdseinekatze859 6 лет назад
Nice of you pointing towards the signature misusage of the bd now being an actual feature of it being allowed to feature an extense decay. But lacking the ability of programming basslines internally due to not being able to tune the bd, is it possible to do so on an external hardware sequencer? This unanswered quest is the only unsolved mystery keeping me from getting a hold of this. I want this as a bassline badly, just as, in contrary, I would not want my 303 as a bassline at all...
@seemo1547
@seemo1547 2 года назад
Veeery cool Magma shirt, Gaz. 😍👍
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 6 лет назад
Have looked at all the current drum machines and decided on the Elektron Digitakt. By far the most value box of the moment. No dubt the TR-08 is fun and sounds good but eventually you want more functionality and sounds. Agree with Gaz it is expensive.
@davidw9736
@davidw9736 5 лет назад
the Digitone is also a cool drum machine, though not cheap.
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf 5 лет назад
Elektron is kicking everybody's ass
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster 4 месяца назад
4:57 Gaz == only guy doing a TR-08 review who knows how to pronounce clave!
@UnitedPebbles
@UnitedPebbles 6 лет назад
Sounded like the synth on those daw disc?
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 6 лет назад
Analogue chic Huh? Can't deny the accessibility of a stand alone machine vs a 'puter window. Funnily enough I dug my old Alesis SR-16 out the other day. I think I might still have an old 606 around here somewhere. I certainly still have an SH-101 and a Kenton MIDI Converter which I used to run with it. >Koz disappears for days to return, covered with cobwebs and dust, clutching curious ancient device.... Nice review Gaz
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 4 года назад
Which Unit is Better? this one vs. The Behringer RD-8 - they both Sound so Authentic.
@dstrats
@dstrats 2 года назад
Sounds great and classic. Although I didn’t hear they huge kick drum from those famous rap songs it was used on. That why I would want to get one. Great demo just the same.
@noname52768
@noname52768 Год назад
Don’t forget that any song on a major label back in the day was likely ran through a high end console like an SSL or something like that. It’s not the raw drum machine
@braincoral9866
@braincoral9866 6 лет назад
I just switch audio device in the middle of a session, Gaz..just to record my TR-8..then I switch back to my sound card..works a treat
@wariusgaius
@wariusgaius 6 лет назад
The TR-8 emulates the 606/707/727/808/909 for just a little bit more. It surprises me there actually is a market for the TR-08.
@noname52768
@noname52768 11 месяцев назад
People want the og interface.
@gustavoelizondo2498
@gustavoelizondo2498 6 лет назад
Cool Magma shirt!
@Bansenshukai9
@Bansenshukai9 3 месяца назад
Love the MAGMA T-Shirt!!! - Good Man!!!
@Metahedron
@Metahedron 6 лет назад
MAGMA!!!
@offworldnetwork
@offworldnetwork 6 лет назад
At 3 minutes you mention the optional dock. My TR-08 came with the 2 angle tilt function at no extra cost !? I assumed this was standard. Are you sure its an optional extra ? Nice in depth review i learned a couple of things here today.
@PorchBass
@PorchBass 6 лет назад
Mine came with the dock attached straight out of the box... I think it's standard too.
@wariusgaius
@wariusgaius 6 лет назад
There is a dock, with mini keys which fits all the boutiques. It is a different product from the tilt thingy.
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 6 лет назад
yeah the tilt dock comes as standard on these.. you can tell which ones have the "free" (although I'm sure it puts the price up) dock by comparing the width in the specs to something like the JP-08, they list as slightly wider because of the dock
@volt7cooltangs701
@volt7cooltangs701 Год назад
Is the 3.5mm audio output on the TR-08 Stereo or just summed mono?
@AndrewThacker
@AndrewThacker 5 лет назад
I'm trying to trigger the D05 in the same way you triggered the TR08 at 4:32 with a Roland A800Pro in Reaper. I can't seem to figure it out. Can you point me in the right direction?
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 3 года назад
The trigger out needs to go into a CV in or I believe a sync in.
@AndrewThacker
@AndrewThacker 3 года назад
@@Decoy303 a friend of mine helped me out with this a while back but I appreciate that you'd reply to such an old comment asking help!
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 3 года назад
@@AndrewThacker no problem @ all.
@unready56
@unready56 5 лет назад
Got the USB 12-channel output working flawlessly in Win10 and Cubase by using ASIO4ALL.
@jobananas3052
@jobananas3052 6 лет назад
Gaz should do a trap album
@potensia_music
@potensia_music 5 лет назад
Nice Shirt Brother - Magma Forever
@onkelberra3166
@onkelberra3166 5 лет назад
I am still bummed they didn't include audio out for each channel. Sure via usb-midi... But then I get groundloop noice :(. Guess I'll wait for the behringer rd808
@avalaonadulwulf8486
@avalaonadulwulf8486 6 лет назад
You cant do the individual out on a PC...Well you can but you will end up scrapping it as its a total pita. If you have more than one you can only do one. And when yo udo that it has to be your interface. Hardly anyone will do that. The other issue is when the USB is pluggued in to your computer there is noise/hum. Its from the USB connection. So, the only way to get rid of that is to plug in to a USB power socket on the wall but then you lose the USB connectivity. I have the TR-09 one which is great. Shame about the USB/power/noise stuff though.
@drstupid1
@drstupid1 6 лет назад
Avalaon Adulwulf use ASIO4ALL (It's free) and get usb cables with ferrite lugs to kill the hum and/or unplug you laptops power supply when recording
@klaasj7808
@klaasj7808 6 лет назад
strange, no issues with a edirol fa-66. oh wait thats firewire hahahahaha, fuck USB. Best ever, made in Japan.!!!!!!!!!!
@LinaaaOfficial
@LinaaaOfficial 6 лет назад
Biggest thing I miss on it are separate analog outs, audio over USB is fine if you just use one boutique but if you have more.. nope. It's a pain on PC, dunno about mac. Other than that it's really great.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 лет назад
LinaaaOfficial audio over USB will work for about 5 years tops.
@LinaaaOfficial
@LinaaaOfficial 6 лет назад
I have a bad feeling about that too.
@alejandravioleta5794
@alejandravioleta5794 6 лет назад
Why?
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 6 лет назад
lack of driver updates/support? I've had it happen to other gear.
@Danielsfield
@Danielsfield 5 лет назад
Thanks
@gnuter3000
@gnuter3000 6 лет назад
Karl Marx
@BaymondRell
@BaymondRell 6 лет назад
Or Charles Manson looking rascal (Sorry Gaz ur still cool man)
@JohnLaVine333
@JohnLaVine333 6 лет назад
How dare you!? :P
@theecatindahat
@theecatindahat 6 лет назад
Billy Connolly
@unapprovedtruth7116
@unapprovedtruth7116 5 лет назад
Don't compare Sonic Lab to that Commie shit stein
@fracmental5166
@fracmental5166 5 лет назад
Arthur Baker
@dimllc
@dimllc 6 лет назад
At 14:54 Gaz made a new intro for all Sonic State videos in 2018.
@cresshead
@cresshead 6 лет назад
looking forward to namm 2018...what next? Tr-8 II? updated tr - 8 maybe?..more patterns ir diff color scheme love to see a W30 boutique
@mkultraproductions1549
@mkultraproductions1549 6 лет назад
cresshead less boutique toys would be nice. Maybe Roland should look to Korg for some inspiration?
@cresshead
@cresshead 6 лет назад
like the volca toys? ha ha ha!.....choose a better inspiration!..latest korg thing is a £2000 arranger.... just saying! roland boutiques are selling really well...they 'work' as a great revenue income for roland. to me fair i'd sooner go get a TR - 8 than the boutique tr-08
@mkultraproductions1549
@mkultraproductions1549 6 лет назад
cresshead volcas are at least reasonablely priced as well as analog. Let's compare monologue vs sh-01 at the same price points...
@cresshead
@cresshead 6 лет назад
i have 3 volcas (bass, synth, beats) i have the system 1 with sh101, sh2 i have 2 boutiques - jp-08 and jx-03 the jx-03 runs rings around any of my volcas the sh-2 in the system 1 is pure amaze balls...i have no desire for a monologue myself just now myself but it looks okay.
@mkultraproductions1549
@mkultraproductions1549 6 лет назад
Would love to see some videos if you have a minute!
@achtertijdtm786
@achtertijdtm786 3 года назад
WARNING FOR PC USERS!! doing the audio over USB thing is quite limited on windows. It only works if you use the TR-08 as your only soundcard, but what Gaz is referring to, using it as an aggregate device alongside your soundcard is very unstable in windows. You have to use ASIO4ALL and I did not get this to work cleanly. I am now a quite bit dissapointed with my tr-08 ... Wish sonicstate would have pointed this out. That would have made me reconsider my purchase ...
@silverqumera
@silverqumera 6 лет назад
Magma Shirt!
@el_dani
@el_dani 6 лет назад
oh, we got a Zeuhl lover here :D
@ryananthony4840
@ryananthony4840 Год назад
HIM: "we don't have compression on an accent, that would be silly....." ME: "would it now.....? :-/ " lmao
@lucio788
@lucio788 6 лет назад
is that boom sounding realistic like a real 808 boom?
@LudovicCoullet
@LudovicCoullet 6 лет назад
Magma thsirt !!!
@e.tienne6600
@e.tienne6600 6 лет назад
Ludovic Coullet just under THAT beard, it rocks !
@marketingdisaster
@marketingdisaster 6 лет назад
Funny coincidence, I just introduced my son to Magma this morning!
@morismateljan6458
@morismateljan6458 6 лет назад
T-shirt is da hundin
@Ledvolta
@Ledvolta 5 лет назад
The prog rock band, right? 🙂
@Claidheambmor
@Claidheambmor 4 года назад
Udu wudu udu wudu udu wudu..
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 6 лет назад
I see these drum machines as drum sets that have certain qualities and limitations. I prefer to have dedicated machines that are predictable when I add them to my jam at hand. I find the workflows are more conducive FOR ME than using one uber menu-diving "do-it-all oh but not that" single unit box (that is essentially a DAW).
@Nammedit
@Nammedit 4 года назад
Hey great review, I'm thinking of buying one of these! Is there any way of making patterns that are for instance 6 or 7 steps?
@Zeal808
@Zeal808 3 года назад
Yes...annd if you trigger the sounds from an external sequencer (like the digitakt) you can make the individual sounds as many steps as you like
@Digiphex
@Digiphex 6 лет назад
This is good to allow children to experience the great Roland of the past whose passionate lovers of circuitry are apparently gone.
@Alphastare23
@Alphastare23 6 лет назад
Magma!!!
@IgnisCygnus147
@IgnisCygnus147 6 лет назад
MAGMA!
@jocknarn3225
@jocknarn3225 5 лет назад
Got my own for AUD $350. Should grab & connect it up & work thru this great tutorial ... but ... the couch has swallowed me up, passed out writing this, came to + crick in me neck🤣
@idemditto
@idemditto Год назад
This is a F*ck%n great review! Thank you 😄
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