Sonic The Hedgehog  

It honestly goes so much harder. He is fully okay with losing as long as he goes down fighting for what he believes in.

W father

@@crona3316 yeah absolutely. That’s literally how he got robotizied as far as I remember. He basically died fighting a war against Robotnik.

"I ain't like sonic, because my father ain't like you ... damn" 😢

I like to imagine if Scourge ever reformed Jules would take him in to be the father he needed. But I never read the Archie comics so I could be completely wrong.

@@jessecrafts2630 Better idea: Scourge discovers he's Sonic's long lost brother Manic with amnesia.

@@theguybehindyou4762 idk why but that made me chuckle a little

It does his whole character

"Get back here, Scouuuuuuuurge! SCOOOOOOOOURGE! YOU CAN'T ESCAPE MEEEEEEEE! I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE EEEEEEEENDS OF THE EARRRRRRRRRTH!"

​@@floatingf8783beat me to it

The worst/best part is that they’re the same person with the same speed, so Scourge won’t be able to escape.

@@RWSfan2024​⁠​⁠​⁠He would lose if he went Super… After Sonic’s transformation wears off, he feels refreshed… When Scourge’s wears off, he feels like he had the life beat out of him with a sack of oranges…

@@TrueSolunarSonic once Scourge loses his super form: “I’m You.”

I think Scourge's father let him kill him. He probably realized that it was his son orchestrating the whole thing and he didn't have the heart to lift a finger towards him.

I personally think Anti-Jules was killed when the riots broke out, and Scourge took credit for it to make himself seem scarier.

​@@ditto7047, yeah almost like HE had orchestrated the events that took place

@@phippsyplays5695 Scourge was a part of the riots, but he didn't specifically start them. They started when people got fed up because the Great Peace that had been in Anti-Mobius started breaking down and leading to stagnation.

Ehh i think thats-a bit too much of an exaggeration, after all we didn't see scourge well... Modify or straight up deleting the universe, yet he could've done bad stuff like destroying planets , but let's remenber this is a reverse sonic , not another sonic. Thank-a you!

Although i gotta say that's-a (mostly) good comment about the character , he tries to do everything in his power to stand out , he even tried to get Sonic join him to conquer planets and what not , but he's just a hollow shadow of what is sonic if he lost his decency and morals.

@@Supermari0986bro a reverse sonic would be so PETTY that would be terrifying

Funny enough he is Sonic’s Shadow

@@kahlif990 true true , I think this one is technically that in a way but not intensified since in the comics he shows to be as careless and somewhat silly like sonic , at least he kept something, but mamma Mia he's petty at the right time , heck look at the comic where he gets transforms into super scourge and gets mad

I'm sorry but what's the double meaning?

​@ShovelLettuce He tells her 'nobody' to reassure her, while also referring to Scourge as what he is. A nobody, a bully who only got to where he is by picking on people he knew couldn't stand up to him.

@@calamityknyte ah, thank you :)

@@ShovelLettuce No problem!

“Behind all the Anarchy and the Chaos Powers, you’re just a little boy, crying for my son’s attention. It would be funny if you weren’t so pathetic…”

This is honestly exactly what I was gonna say. Scourge is, at his core, nothing more than a thug with superpowers. His entire arc is just him being so obsessed with being different from Sonic that his entire reason for being a villain revolves around Sonic. What did he do when he learned he was one Sonic in an entire multiverse? He starts causing trouble in Mobius Prime. What does he do when Sonic tells Scourge that if he was just a better person, they'd be the same? He doubles down on being a villain and makes the entirety of Anti-Mobius start making themselves different from their main-universe counterparts.

​@@ditto7047tbh, I get what Scourge is feeling when he meet Sonic. No one actually talks about how multiverses are actually extremely dehumanizing and as a concept is a gold mine of existential and cosmic horror. Scourge is still a terrible person, but I can deeply understand why he doubled down on his role as a villain and not be sonic

​@@Gendotherendowhat's dehumanizing about a multiverse? Infinite copies to explore infinite possibilities in parallel. A lot of trajectories will be the same or dead ends, but that's just like how a highway has multiple lanes going in the same direction.

​@@zenko4187that is certainly one way to look at it but what they were trying to say but essentially in a multiverse, you're not unique, interesting, valuable nor meaningful because every possible decision has been made and originality does not exist, if you don't live a satisfactory life then you never will, Scourge's life sucks, Sonic's doesn't suck and all Scourge sees is that Sonic was just born outright better than him, their similar and Sonic is just better, no nuance about it, instead of trying to be better for himself and his planet, he entered a rather narrow mindset and doubled down.

@@frostbite_1244 I think the concept of a parallel existence needs to be disentangled from determinism. The existance of every possible choice, doesn't mean that your choice is predetermined it just means the outcome of either decision exists. Your decisions are still unique as are your consequences, and the convergence or divergence caused by these choices is what makes multiverse interesting. Scourge had the benefit of seeing one's potential, and backed down instead of taking advantage of the knowledge he had.

Yeah, fuck Penders

Writer - Ian flynn... says it all...

@@Tedus987 Until we get to the zombot arc. Idc what everyone will try to tell me, IDW is not canon after that.

@@KLUCZESIAit’s literally just Robotization from Sat-AM and Archie, just a little bit to the left. Same base concept with a different tone and staff. Edit: not saying it’s bad, but it’s not like this is the first zombie/robot/apocalypse that’s happened to sonic.

@@MrShop-fg2on Except there's no Shadow in Sat-AM, or many modern characters that should've survived this arc no problem.

More so scourge than azula. Azula has mommy issues.

im still wondering how did sonic parents was blue if og sonic was brown in the first place?

Thought you were talking about CWC for a second there…

scourge is wario if he was given more dept

It's ironically because meeting sonic was like the worst thing for him.

@@Gendotherendo Scourge or CWC..?

The funny thing is that in his jailbreak arc- ironically his LAST arc- Scourge does in fact change. He figures out that he doesn't have to be a one-man show that pushes everyone down. That he can LISTEN to and he can WORK with people while still being the one calling the shots. He learns how to do more than just bully and intimidate, listening to the stories of the Destructix and figuring out how he needs to appeal to them in order to earn their respect.

Absolutely. I'm 100% certain of that.

God I wish pre-reboot had gone on longer, I would've loved to see this happen.

@@sonicrunn3r895 Once more, with feeling. F KEN PENDERS!!!!!

Shard died before he could get erased from reality so that’s good for him

Shard's death made me kinda angry, actually. Guess that's how you know you wrote a good character, but it felt too soon.

He has a metal one!

​@@Patisdead💀

​@@Patisdeadeven worse

​@@Patisdead😳💀

@@Patisdead Imma be real with ya, I don’t a spiked (insert impossibly hard, fictional metal here) belt could get through to Scourge.

Envious…but yeah, its a brilliant sonic comic moment

Old men with hard faces are often more dangerous than young men with hard heads.

Guardians of the Galaxy 2 reference 😂😂😂👍👍👍

That would've been overkill lol

Because like Jules said, he is not his father and Scourge is not his son. He is nobody to him. Whatever similarities the two have had he knows that Scourge isn’t his son, which is why he doesn’t compare him to Sonic, but the people of his world, because Scourge is just a stranger to him, another cowardly villain in a world of heroes.

That last line was more "the wind covered up the effect by accident" but thanks anyway

Frontiers Roger works so well with Jules

The thing about that is that Scourge is the literal opposite of sonic mentally, morally, and motivationally: Sonic is a goofball at heart but always knows when to get serious, always believes there is good in someone no matter what they've done, and fights against Eggman to protect those he loves, while Scourge is a coward who hides it by using his power to exert his will, always believes someone is just as bad as he is if given the opportunity, and fights anyone who disagrees with him. So, fundamentally the two have completely opposite ideas on what "the best" means: Sonic wants to be best he can be as a person, Scourge wants to be the best by forcing others into second place any way he can.

@@PoorBoyProductions660 The way you speak about Scourge would really hurt him ya know. He's Extreme Sonic, not Opposite Sonic. Only he gets to choose how HE is, that's what it means to be the best. And the king is ALSO a servant.

@@PoorBoyProductions660 All Scourge needed to do was be real, and recognize that not being the ONLY cool one, doesn't make you not the coolest, the stronger, or the fastest, but it doesn't make you the best. Just the best 'Scourge'.

@@PoorBoyProductions660 Scourge was so focused on being the 'baddest of the bad.' He forgot how much more worth he had if he actually had the mind to do it. Imagine being Sonic in a world with everything and everyone stacked against him? But still having the true strength to stay a half decent dude?

@@PoorBoyProductions660 No one ever said that a villain couldn't live long enough to see themselves become a hero

Wow... Sorry you had to go through something like that, I hope you're doing better now or, at least, working towards doing better.

@@PoorBoyProductions660 Things got alot better, I didn't turn out like the edgy hedgie, thankfully!

Oh my god... that's terrifying to hear...

@@jessecrafts2630 What is, that I ended my father? The Asshole killed my mother and dog, and almost got me too... trust me, he had it coming...

@gallexfireteam7025 I'm sorry you went through all that and Yeah he did deserve it but it was just scary to hear. I'm sorry if I made it sound like I was trying to make you feel bad or something... I am very sorry you had to go through all that.. I wanna give you a hug.

It's JFK 🙃

More as a joke since Anti-Jules looked more like a politician than a soldier

It must've blown his mind to have his own son kill him.

One of the things I wanna do once I get the cash is try to get Sega to produce an Archie Sonic series, maybe a game, because the comic run wasn't enough for those characters to shine

@@PoorBoyProductions660 And now most of those characters sit idling in a content vault when fans aren't trying to draw them. The only ones to dodge that were the Hooligans; I'm enjoying their comic so far

He’s going to run to big daddy Robotnik

Now that makes me wonder what would happen if they met

​@@jessecrafts2630 "A robot copy of my son? It's like staring in a cruel watered down mirror... everything I see in him is reflected in a negative way. My son is cocky but friendly while you are prideful and egotistical, he is selfless and you are selfish, he is free while you try your hardest to be it. I wonder? Is there a soul behind all those bolts or just the ego of the creator? No matter, I shall see for myself."

@@GordonNight1 wow!

SCOURGE THE HEDGEHOG IS THE BEST VILKAIN OF SONIC THE HEDGEHOG AND ELMO IS MY BEST VILLAIN

Not that I can recall

I think you're thinking of the Fleetway Sonic comics, this is the Archie Comics run. In short, the robot is Sonic's dad who was turned into a robot to keep him from dying, Scourge is Sonic from a parallel universe with an ego problem. You'd have to read the Archie run to get the full picture on what's happening.

I respect your opinion, but that's like saying Amy is just pink Sonic. Scourge has a lot more going for him than just "Sonic but green"

@PoorBoyProductions660 I mean how many sonic counterparts we need shadow was enough metal was enough mecha

@@blackpotatomaster except anti Sonic/scourge was first before any of them

​@@blackpotatomaster clamining Shadow is Sonic's counterpart is not wrong but just to a tiny extent, he sure served as a parallel gameplay wise earlier games and motivation wise But at the end of the day, Shadow is his own character, that happens to be the same species as Sonic and also have chaos abilities, but so is Silver and he's clearly not meant to be a parallel, Not only that, but the Sonic series is full of counterparts to Sonic, but not as in "Alternate version of character" (Shadow is not part of this, at least after SA2), and more to as characters that are answers to Sonic personality, Shadow (similar at first, uses different ways), Knuckles (duty-bounded and serious, and his strenght is equivalent to Sonic speed) and Blaze, by far, Blaze is the character that goes far into counterpart thing, she is duty-bounded while Sonic is freedom minded, Sonic have fear of water but high places are fine (specially since he is associated with wind), Blaze fears heights but is fine with water (represented as a swimmer in the olympic games and her entire dimension being water), their color scheme is a reversal of each other Sonic blue fur to Blaze's yellow eyes, Blaze's purple fur to Sonic's green eyes (negative color stuff), they are opposites, but when working togheter, they complete each other (I dont mean in a ship way), Sonic freedom ideology response to Blaze duty-focused is Sonic Rush main theme Shadow is something similar, he isnt just Sonic but "X stuff", because by this logic Knuckles and Blaze should be just Sonic clones but you dont think as they arent hedgehogs

@jasondobbins9735 I mean your just the first in a long line of dups so ppl barley know you and shadow eclipsed you where in all reality you should be lol like he's not that great