(copied from my all achievements run) Aside from everything that's obvious in the video, a couple of things must be done to get the fight to work correctly (this took me like an hour to figure out even with the knowledge I had so it's very tricky and I had some times where the buggy fight wouldn't work and I still don't know exactly why, so if that happens to you make sure to restart a save file and do exactly what I do in the run). Firstly the way you reach this menu is by pressing CTRL + Enter while in the overworld. This is the frame advance feature but for some reason it causes this menu to show up. Using it in battle also causes the battle to instantly end in a win for your team, and counts for advancing the story (which is why the category is specified as no stage skips). Afterwards we want the training fight to be as easy as possible. This was really tricky to figure out, since it's not really obvious how we can import either a weak or a buggy opponent. In the end though, the data I found to work is exactly the text: START_!&!%,*$*,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,*$*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,*$*,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,*$*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,NODATA,*^*,*$*,7,*$*,!&!%_END make sure there are no extra spaces at the end! if you get a message saying something along the lines of "make sure the data starts with START and ends with END" that doesn't mean it won't work but most likely just that you didn't post it correctly! If you still can't get it to work you can join the discord (link on speedrun.com) and we can work things out there :) if you paste this into the import character screen, the fight should end in a win for you as long as sonny is not the only one entering the battle. There are some other weird features this whole fight has that I can't really make sense of. For example: in the run I always select my newly made file twice while setting it up in the pvp arena since I don't want to use any files made before the start of the run (this is even banned in the rules). However let's say you have a fight played up until the end of zone 5 that has Sonny, Veradux and Roald as your party members and you select this file as the second player, while still selecting your new file as the first player. Even though you will still overwrite that save data with the text pasted above, after ending the same buggy fight for some reason the game will max out roalds level as well, even though you won't have even unlocked him yet. Another key thing I should mention is that I save and quit to title once more after the buggy fight is done. This is because when you go into a fight like this, for some reason the game will replace the enemy in the middle with a buggy copy of sonny like the one you fought in the buggy fight. Not only is this not the pure way you'd play the game, but your sonny will also still die after the first turn, just like he does in the buggy fight. Reloading the save file is the only way I found that resets this behavior back to normal. A similar trick also works in sonny, although there you won't gain infinite exp even though it says NaN because exp gain is capped to the next levelup in that game (leveling up there would also be kinda bad since leveling up greatly reduces your piercing in sonny 1 only) I hope that explains everything, it's pretty fun to play around with so if you have any more questions feel free to ask!
@@CreepyGar Wow, didn't expect a reply. Interesting that after all these years, there are still techniques for speedrunning. Also that Sonny 1 piercing reduction is just _memeish_ lmao, Krin is such a troll. Anyways, might as well give it a try -since Sonny 3 doesn't exist- , thanks once again!
it's probably something specific to the way you are playing the game. Personally most of us play on Flashpoint where the shortcut is what it says. If you're talking about anything else (like the text put in before the "training" fight) then that's another thing, when I was testing I got different results for the same text input (sometimes sonny and all teammates would just die instantly at the start of the fight or stuff like that) so if that's the problem try to restart your file and do everything in the order that it's done in the video, that worked consistently for me. I'm assuming it's about the CTRL+Enter thing which as you might've seen you're not the first person to point out. If this is the issue maybe you can tell me what you're playing on and I can ask some other people what the equivalent method would be on that platform (my knowledge on what causes this behavior is pretty limited, I pretty much pieced this together by trial and error using tricks other people found).
@@zekrom129 did you make sure to exit out first and go into PVP arena, select your new file for both characters and then exit the pvp arena before you do CTRL+Enter and paste the text in the enemy slot? Otherwise the trick wont work
@@CreepyGar i followed your steps exactly, but it keeps sayings the character data is incomplete. I even named my character "l" like you do in the speedrun. kept the class and even the settings you picked, the exact same. currently my record for no major glitches is about 3 hours, but I'm having trouble resetting the game to no achievements on flashpoint
@@zekrom129 as far as I know there is no way to reset achievements on Flashpoint, which made it a bit tricky when I did my All Achievements run but each achievement can still be verified. As for the flash manipulation Im afraid Im out of knowledge to help you, as I said I found this through trial and error so I dont know why it works or why it wouldnt. If you want to ask people that know more about the game though I suggest asking in the speedrunning discord (look on the forum for Sonny on speedrun.com for the link), I hope those people will be able to help you
