Sony A8F Series OLED TV - XBR65A8F 

Hi Captain Pancakes. This is a great TV overall, but if you're using it for gaming I'd strongly suggest checking out the X900F if you're looking to upgrade. It's a step above the 900E and much better for gaming than an OLED (no risk of image retention). Here's a link so you can see our latest deals on the 900F: www.abt.com/resources/pages/search.php?keywords=xbr%20900f&XBR900F_2018081 Thanks for watching! -Carl

You mentioned the tv was impressive from every angle. How can it be impressive if it's only 700 nits? the brightness lets it down don't you think?

Hi TheTruth. I didn't find the brightness to have any impact on the viewing angle. Because of how OLEDs work you can get way off center and the colors remain accurate. They're similar to plasma TVs in that regard. Brightness on OLEDs can be a factor if you're in a very brightly lit room though. These really do best in dimly lit areas, like a dedicated theater room or a room where you have control of how much light gets in. If you're looking to put a TV into a room that gets a lot of light, the Sony X900F series would be a great one to consider. Or the upcoming Z9F series! Thanks for watching! -Carl

+Abt Electronics Hi there! thanks for your reply.....i am in the position to buy a tv but don't know which. I had my heart set on the xf90 here in the uk...but got convinced by the af8 sony oled, but was disappointed to learn about the 700 nit brightness, and samsung gives 2000 on their led, also disappointed by their remote control.....panasonic and samsung offer a much more premium controler.....but no other set offers what sony offers. The a1 extreme chip and better motion handling. Should i wait until sony brings out a brighter oled? My living room is just a standard uk living room.....1 bay window next to the tv.

I'm not certain that OLEDs are going to get much brighter. That's one of their limitations. The brighter they are, the more easily burn-in can occur. The Sony Z9D is currently being sold for discounted pricing because the Z9F is coming out shortly. I'd highly recommend looking into that. The Z9D offers an outstanding picture, but struggles with off angle viewing. If you're going to be sitting directly in front of the TV I don't think there's a better picture out there right now. I hope this helps. Good luck with your decision!

No they didn't its still an option, and its less expensive. Check it at Best Buy Magnolia.

THE RAFCAVE Hi there! Got mine 4 days ago. I don’t know, I feel like this TV lacks of something. I keep adjusting it.. for gaming and watching movies. I’m always switching from Vivid to Standard and Vivid Photo”. Heck I can’t decide which screen configuration is better for each case. And the surface of the screen is to damn shiny, you get to much reflection on it. I hope I get used to it soon :/ it’s a quite costly TV

pfft...not a chance. LG owns OLED category.

Also the A8F does not have X-motion clarity. The X900F does (I don't believe any other model does yet) since it requires backlight control to implement. Given there is no backlight control on an OLED, the A8F can't have it.

Hi Stock Genie. I noticed the difference in sound quality right away. Having the second sub makes it sound much fuller. The A1E is still a very good sounding TV, but the A8F is better with that second sub. Thanks for watching! -Carl

Abt Electronics thanks for the reply. I actually just purchased the A1E and had it delivered this past wknd.

if you think 4K is life you better get another tv than lucky goldstars wrgb oleds...they are not real 4K tvs.

Patrik Gårdewall Don't play with words

I have the same question. The one I just bought has a slight tilt and the one in the video also has the same tilt.

Did you go for a8f? I'm thinking of getting one on black friday but worried about same thing as gamer.

@@garethbr26 hello ! I live in Mexico City, and ive seen both tvs, oled looks amazing but ...i bought the 75 " x900f. Its a really good tv , but Android is sometimes very slow .

@@CasualVariado stuck between af8 and Samsung q9fn as a gamer. Oled picture is def better but burn in sounds a nightmare .

@@garethbr26 of course , but the x900f is great, i play xbox one s and ps4 . Uncharted4 /Gears of War look great !

Hi Gorillapancake. I had a meeting with a rep from Sony last week and he confirmed that the panel is new for 2018 and the X-1 Extreme processor was improved as well. I'll have to check further into the banding, but I'll update once I know. They had to use our A8F for some presentations at the store last week so we didn't have it available to use. As always, thanks for watching! -Carl

I need an answer to this question

www.sony.com/electronics/picture-quality#Triluminos

Hi bumpy baluga. The A8F got a new panel for 2018 along with an improved X-1 Extreme Processor. It also has two small subwoofers instead of one larger one that I think makes the A8F sound fuller. Thanks for watching! -Carl

Hi toobalkain. This TV actually has some well placed cutouts on the back towards the bottom that allow you to lift it to mount very easily. It's not nearly as awkward to lift and move as the A1E. Thanks for watching! -Carl

Jelly Much do you like it? Anything you're not happy about? Looking at buying one

last i checked most of the burn in were coming from LG side...No Sony so they are doing something different from LG cause these are LG panels.

yea good point you really have to see it in person I never go by what people be saying in these video or the video, just like anything you only know what you like I have the 65 A1 and the picture is super WOW I really like the kick stand over this stand kick stand look more like TV art , got my from Abt great place nice people free shipping no tax had the 940e for 10 day and sent it back for the A1 no problem

Hi MEADE LAWN CARE SUPERMAN. Yes, I would definitely recommend seeing this one in person to truly get the full effect. That's the problem with showing video over RU-vid. There's lots of compression happening through the upload and posting process and that can distort and degrade the image being shown. This TV shows an incredibly accurate picture. As always, thanks for watching! -Carl

jarvisis akito yes true 👍

Abt Electronics you said the motion was smoother, do you have the motion interpolation enabled or disabled?

Hi Fr0stkeule. Sony doesn't list a number for the Nits. I will say, it does seem to get slightly brighter than their A1E. Sony used a new OLED panel for the 2018 A8F and an updated processor which also helps. Thanks for watching! -Carl

The new 2018 panel might be a bit brighter but no one seems to have measured any real difference. And it is the same processor 100%.

progranite xl thats what ive said as well lol

They can improve it by fixing image retention and burn in. I have two oleds and refuse to play my PS4 pro because the couple times I did I got image retention and I’m not going to risk it on a television that cost me $3500. They can also fix the banding issues. On my 55inch oled It’s isn’t as noticeable but on my 65inch oled I noticed it the first time I loaded up Netflix. OLED does have problems. My oleds get image retention too easily and my brightness isn’t even set to high. Both of them are 2017 models.

Carlos A if you know it have these type of problems why did you buy it

progranite xl I bought it because of the amazing picture quality and the contrast. Every type of tv on the market today has their own set of problems. Just gotta decide what’s right for you. Personally I watch movies more than anything on my oleds. Especially 4k hdr content.

OLEDs still need to improve brightness along with the other issues people mentioned in this thread.

I just bought one from Brandsmart at $2299.00. Like 2 hours ago.

@@jorgefernandez7662 I just bought one yesterday for 1999.99

nope

Well, you can also say it leans at 2-5 degrees. All just a matter of opinion ;)

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Ted Bryant I have two lg oleds both 2017 models. They’re great but they DO have problems. First of all if you get a 65inch oled more than likely you’re gonna get a panel with noticeable banding. I noticed the banding on my oled the first time I fired up Netflix. It isn’t as noticeable on my 55 inch tho. You can see it in dark scenes. Second image retention is very real and happens very easily on my lg oleds. Especially when playing games with an static HUDs. To give you an example, one day I loaded up Hulu and left it on the selection screen then walked away for 2 mins (not even long enough for the television to go into its standby mode) and my oled panel got image retention from the different titles on the selection screen. I absolutely would not recommend an oled if you’re going to be using it for gaming or if you’re going to be using it in a bright room. The reflections the display causes in a bright room with sunlight are a nuisance. Honestly if you can afford the Sony OLED I would go for it. I know for 2017 they used the same panels as LG but the real reason to get their oled over LGs is because of the X1. I think I saw the A1e oled on sale for like $3,599. That’s how much I paid for my 65inch oled in July of 2017.

overblown. it doesn't happen on every OLED and probably not nearly as often as the haters make it seem. LCD Tvs have serious issues as well, but no one talks about those. Just get a store warranty and you'll be fine.

Michelle Alexandria it’s definitely not an overblown issue. It’s a very real issue that lg refuses to fix. Just go online and do some research before you say it’s an overblown issue. Also go into any store that has an oled on display and you can see that their oleds have some serious burn in! Anytime I go to any electronics store I check out the TVs before I leave and they always have oleds with burn in. Seriously just go to your nearest Best Buy and look at any oled they have on display and you’ll see that it isn’t an “overblown” issue. I have two 2017 oleds from lg and image retention happens way too easily. Even with my oled light set to 40.

I had the A1E and returned it for the LG B7 and regret it every day. The Sony kills it. Sound, picture, processing, app choices are all better on the Sony. if you want to save money and still get a nice limited oled. get the LG. if you want the best. get the Sony.

dave b lol your funny

Emily Pauli same. I don't expect a cpu change until the X1 ultimate goes in products.

Sidah Satch no change. Some cpu. Same video processor. Same software.

tommi ko No. UI lag is android and the slow CPUs fault. Input lag is the video processor and the fact it is doing processing on the video. You could get less lag if you were willing to have no processing at all on video which seems to be what LGs game mode does.

Lennart Sorensen but the game mode is supose to be desabling video processing which mean there is no video processing engaged like most tvs does, how can it be the cpu or android ?

Sony doesn't believe in disabling all processing in even game mode. Helps keep HDR looking good by doing dynamic mapping and such. Now why their 1080 scaling adds so much extra lag is surprising, that doesn't seem like it should be a big operation to perform, but for some reason 1080 game lag is a lot higher than 2160 game lag. After all the game system has to generate the frame, then send it over hdmi, and most likely the TV doesn't start to process the frame until the entire frame is received (I suspect those TVs with lower lag may in fact start processing before the entire frame is received), and only when the processing is done does the frame get displayed. Each step adds a bit of lag, often close to one frame time worth. A really smart design would try to do the steps in parallel and reduce the lag more (and they may even be doing that and still just taking too much time to do it all). Life with a CRT was simple. It displayed as it received with no processing at all (just some brightness/contrast adjustment done the same all the time on the signal as it was being displayed).

Thanks for the reply,Just for the information LG 2018 oled tvs has DYNAMIC TONE MAPPING (META DATA) in GAME MODE and keeps 21 Ms of input lag.

The new ones a little better

This new one looks a LOT better. Your A1E now officially sucks balls.

carlcat the upcoming Sony x1 ultimate is gonna the only TV ull ever need in ur entire lifetime. Look it up

Underwood, I agree, the Sony Ultimate chip TV will be incredible but keep in mind 2019 TV's are a year away and who know what new technology will be out by then or how well they will improve established technology.

carlcat it’s a model called x1 ultimate it’s the best TV ever made and competition doesn’t even come close just look it up

But Sony already offers a FALD that offers the most dimming zones ever available. The ZD9.

I saw the Z9D in the store last year and it was the most impressive LCD I've ever seen and it was right next to an LG OLED. However, how it compares to the new Samsung Fald top of the line remains to be seen. The Z9D may have darker darks because of more zones, but it may not be as bright or better motion than the Samsung top of the line, we'll see. As for the Sony 2019 OLED with a(possibly) new Ultimate chip, HDMI 2.1 my guess it will be the highest rated TV of 2019. But that remains to be seen as well.

Martin86 Chitembo qlued is just a gimmick

QLED is a marketing trick for LED technology.. This Sony Oled TV is far more better.

Ankit Sen how is Qled just a gimmick thats just not true Quantum dots are real science they are being used everywhere way more then people realize I bet - There are quite a few Qd companys working with Qds one is Nanosys who is working together with Samsung on still trying to make the Electric Emissive Qd tv its already Photo emissive just not yet electrically charged like a Oled but Oled is made with Organic Compound so its not the best for tvs degrades faster so soon if Samsung makes a true Inorganic self electrically emissive tv that will be awesome anybody can research all this on google NANOSYS SAMSUNG and if you type in google ( NANOSYS NEWS ) it should show up on top click that then click on the one by ANDROID AUTHORITY and then go back and click on others as well good reads

The Q9 is a FALD LED television. It has been done before. It is not some grand step in the "right" direction.

jcapers93 Qds are the future no doubt Oled is great also no doubt but Inorganic Qds are getting better better every yr will see what happens 👍

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Hi Always VIRAL. I confirmed with Sony that they're using a brand new OLED panel for 2018 in this set. Plus with the updated X1-Extreme processor and better motion handling with improved X-Motion clarity you do get a better viewing experience. It's not night and day, but it is improved. Thanks, as always, for watching! -Carl

Everyone wants to hate on poor ol OLED. For some reason..

Is the new panel brightness more than the A1E? I really interested on this TV, the brightness is the only reason,of i haven't chose the old one

Hi Cwo IC1101. The A8F does seem brighter than the A1E. We don't have a way to measure it scientifically here at the store, but from looking at the two I noticed a difference myself. Thanks for watching! -Carl

Ron Jon Xbox One X still has no exclusives. 🤷

Valentyn Lyevyentsov neither does the Pro al games run on base model systems

Ron Jon ... I meant Xbox One as a platform. Who cares about 4K when all you can play is multiplats and old games. Want true 4K? Get a PC.

Valentyn Lyevyentsov none of this is true just fake biased media and Sony ponies. it's a fact Xbox has plenty of exclusives and in fact was better exclusives the first few years of this generation. it is a fact Sony has had a stronger lineup this second half of this generation but there are still plenty of games on Xbox a mmmm d MS will be announcing many new games and IPs at this E3

Ron Jon I find it funny how the only argument Xbox fans ever use is "wait until E3." It's been how many E3's already?

Lars Erlandsson I give it to the Q9FN have seen it in person,could not believe what Samsung as done with with a LED tv,the blacks were really black.it was placed in a dark room in the shop.