Sony Attacked Anonymous And Immediately Regretted it 

@@stephenhood2948 Oh, please, the $50 gazillion (ever changing number) "lost" is always just an excuse from corporations. Are you really so naive to believe the numbers they throw out there with absolutely zero methodology known to anyone, even "experts", on these "losses" from piracy? And in reality it's not something you can ever actually prove. What could they do, conduct surverys of every single gamer in the world and ask if they pirated their games? LMAO. Even that would be shaky at best as a statistic/"proof". Even something like this video where they obtained IPs of all the visitors to that dude's site wouldn't help at all. This was entirely about control, as it always is with corporations and especially big tech. That's why the entire video game industry moved towards EULA/license stuff years ago.

@@stephenhood2948 And that's why laws governing physical (material) property should not be applied to informational (i.e. intellectual) property. If a person steals a loaf of bread, that person who he steal it from _loses_ that loaf of bread. If a person pirates a game, the person who's made the game doesn't really lose anything, assuming that the pirate wouldn't buy the game anyway. On the contrary, pirate may be so impressed with the game he pirated, that he ends up buying it anyways. But let's be real, was there any AAA game that could inspire you to buy it, if you could get it for free in the last, let's say, 5 years? Nope, that's a prerogative of indie devs, who create games with a mindset of creating a game that is enjoyable to play, and not just to grab some cash...

​@@stephenhood2948 TL:DR Everyone will pirate everything, but I would never.

@HiArashi13 LOL a pirated game so good you would want to buy it?? Why would you buy something you already have?? And the problem with PTP sites is it isn't one person stealing it, it's thousands of people stealing it, that is the purpose and how they work.

@@stephenhood2948 Example 1: Rimworld. I liked the game so much, I bought it shortly after it hit A16 version. Example 2: Starcraft 2. Same story, I was quite impressed with WoL, so I bought it, and later preordered both HotS and LotV. Example 3: Warframe. Yes, I know the game is free, but I actually felt obliged to pay devs for their work, so I bought some platinum, most of which is still unused, 'cause I didn't even have a reason to do so other than mentioned before. I'm not saying that EVERYONE will buy the game if they like it. But I'm quite sure that majority of pirates wouldn't buy those games if they wouldn't be able to pirate them. PS: So labeling those "pirated games" as lost profit is quite an overstatement. In fact I'm pretty sure that all pirate resources help promote games on a scale comparable with actual PR.

according to citizens united corporations are people

More and better lawyers helps a lot.

@@Blackatchaproduction Hell, they are MORE than people. So much for the individualistic ideals of western society when a conglomerate unliving entity can have more agency than a living individual.

Sorry to pendant, but corporations in the US *are* "people." That is the problem.

@@Blackatchaproduction Except they can't go to jail for any reason and their fines are much smaller than you'd get for littering.

I can quite confidently say that the number of games I legally purchased would have remained the same regardless of my access or lack of to methods of piracy.... of course the number of games I pirated is

Every pirated game is one not sold.. many people are not honest, why pay for a game again if you have it already 😂

Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes

@@mmuller2402 ive bought diablo 2, Lod, 2 battlechests for diablo 2 LOD, 1 digital copy and D2R. I think your statement only illustrates how little you actually game....

Almost no money is lost to piracy. This is because people who pirate content almost never would buy the content. They're not customers.

But Apple only thinks this way because it made them more money

@@bigfr0g maybe that's the point of the joke comment, apple knows better to benefit, sony only knows how to pick fights with no benefit

Thats why i dont buy sony products. Fuck this company

Yeah right. The angelic Apple with sweat shops and slave factories. They do nothing wrong!

Sony is a Japanese company. Japan has a very strict copyright law. And most Japanese companies are overprotective because of that. Think about Nintendo etc. They all sue modders, jailbreakers and hackers

You do realize how antisemitic that would be, right?

​@@comlain2513you know what antisemetic even means right?

@@JustElijahRS Do you? This would be like when the Nazis abolished interest. I know where this leads: I will not be going to any camps.

Anti-semetic is the dissent/prejudice against people of Jewish descent. My point is... how the fuck is technology related to that?

@@JustElijahRS just ignore them, let them clown themself

Finland figured this out decades ago. Fines are percentile based in that nation, not flat numbers.

they used to do it exactly this way, it was called "punitive damages" but republican sophists used that mcdonalds coffee schalding case to argue that people were "seeking money with frivoulous lawsuits" so we lost that right.

Sony isnt that big of a company.. Microsoft could buy sony and not even blink.

yaaa but in 2011 most these corps didnt have alll there shit online. now adays a few good lines of code and a lie or two and billoons of dollars just vanish and never can be found. paper trasils are lies. itys the people down the lie who keep there mouths shut that make shit vanish but the internet will that has no one to stop ands now as corps depend on servers to keep everything running. you could say desable voltage checks in software and fry any server on the panet or alll them.... the world may be in the cloud now but it can all come crashing to earth with something as simple as one line of code. then again. i could be lying this could all be made up..... then again. 90% wont bat a second eye or dig just a little deeper... most wont.

@@vaporjoes You're joking right? Like 90% of tech companies are massively overvalued or outright fraudulent in the case of Theranos, Nikola Motors, and more. I'd trust Sony's 100 or so billion valuation to be more accurate to the true worth of the company, as opposed to Microsofts 2 trillion valuation. Also... Sony has outright refused offers to be bought by foreign companies before, Nintendo has as well. This is the case for many Asian companies. They'd much rather be bought by domestics competitors, rather than foreign ones if they have no other options to prevent being bought out.

That's why I dislike recent cars.

Do you still hack? I may have a paid job for you. I just want some media articles removing from a newspaper website.

from this video I don't see anything wrong with his characther either

@@Runmeerkat he’s a bit of a character. I really like him anyways, and i think his work speaks for himself, but he can be a little dismissive of any differing opinions, overdoes seeking out controversy, but honestly, if i was as talented, I’d probably be a dick too.

Same here! He certainly inspired a generation of kids

Yes. It's also frustrating that there is very little establish precedents to help decide on rulings. The law is created as it goes along and the technology of the past 2 decades is so vast and new that there hasn't been enough to create many major landmark rulings.

@@Sabbathtage Sucks to say, but give it 15-20 years or so for some younger blood, who's familiar with computer technology, to get into judicial positions.

These days it is illegal. There original defintions of a cool bit of coding , or harmlesslely exploring some unprotected network are long gone , that ship has sailed . Hacking now means cybercrime. ...unless your 14 and playing Fortnight , in which case hacker means "person who bought cheat"

@@tubewatcher97 also we hack life and what not these days. Such a silly world we live in.

and the fact the judge thought it was ok to give access simply to people who liked what he was doing, yeah that is insane.

Their loss. By far. Could have cornered Microsoft and Nintendo right out of the market

you can't hire someone to be your dog if they have a sense of ethics, which is the entire reason why they were against him

Geohot would have been bored in a week just like at Google, and quit. Sony would never have a job that would keep is interest for long.

They would have to put him in his element, create a space where he could let loose.

most japanese dont want new ideas

I only buy musical things from SONY - stereo. its the only thing SONY in my home. and no Steve Jobs products in my home at all. they all spy so it doesnt really matter.

Same

Amazon, target,NFL,powerball,Mark Cuben NBA. Fake news etc.

It seems like an overreach but I do have one idea of why it was done. It was to show how much 'harm' was done to their service and as a result the potential sum that Sony would demand from him if he tried fighting the lawsuit (look at how destroyed Bowser is after Nintendo sued him) I'm sure the lawyers were smart enough to realize that there are provisions in place to protect users who wish to bypass security for their own sake, but distribution of the methods is always sketchy. If they knew how many people were doing this, they could talk about how it affects them oh so much. Unlike media companies, they can't go after the individuals for simply downloading a hack.

The sad truth is people don't care. When its comes to hacking most people only care about piracy. Running linux on a PS3, no common people would want to do that.

Here in America all our trust laws were generally written and passed in the 90s and haven’t been updated since, we’re ass to the wind in regards to how businesses exploit us in the age of information.

Right? Like how was it not found guilty of violating the first amendment?! In more ways than one

Egh, the moment the courts approve a warrant or subpoena to go after a criminal organization, which is what these people were at this point, they then lose their right to privacy. This is back in the day when they still bothered with warrants and due process. I don't agree with what Sony did but at least they did so within the law. These days all of us are being recorded and tracked openly and our data is accessed and sold to the highest bidder regardless of the legality of it.

One could argue that the discovery of fire was the very first hack. Bro literally hacked some wood to turn it into heat and incandescent gas. :)

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Not in a society run by corporations.

yeah but the companies want to sell us garbage by removing all other options.

except coporations dont actualy care about money they care about power. and allowing people outside their coporations makes them lose pwoer so they dont want that.

We want more George stories!

cool story, bro.

​@@personanongrata80shis LinkedIn checks out

You sound like the major racist arrogant pr@k that good for nothing corporations would hire. Good for him he left.

Watch out! We got a big shot over here

Videos like these never express how damaging piracy is to the franchise itself and the danger of running unsigned code. Sega despite being open about what went on their system compared to nintendo's strict policies died from their biggest hurtle. Piracy; nobody wanted to produce games for the system having just dealt with video game crash. Nintendo only survives because of their ips and marketing merchandise. They don't have the capital of sony or microsoft. pc piracy especially with all the handhelds today. Designing a new console/ handhelds going to be hell... As for unsigned code many people have downloaded code online to hack their consoles, but they have no idea what commands happen. There are those that can and will write code within those executables to gain access to your console through background processes. Most will never know it's there, never realize someone could be listening. And what's sad is they won't know until you get your door kicked in as police ask why your transferring cp. That's the thing with ddosers too, they need as many communications as possible to ping the target. What easier way to pray on what would be supercomputers. Generally it's not discovered or years later. If it's someone random online that gave you the hack it's probably never. But yea for hackers ps3's were gold because they'd network them as a super computer and it wouldn't surprise me if hackers mined crypto with them or in the future with other users ps5's.

@@HomikaGaming Sega failed because their games just weren't that good, "piracy" is a boogeyman everyone uses to scapegoat a terrible product. They see "Holy cow, our game was pirated 250,000 times! that's so much money we lost!" and all their dumb ass investors freak out but in reality, there are more than 250,000 people that are too poor to afford video games and the likelihood of a majority of those pirates being those poor people is enormously high. Piracy isn't causing lost revenue outside of investors being incredibly stupid. I owned a Dreamcast, the games were "Sega" quality which is just "ok" and the console was just "ok" as is tradition for Sega, the controller was uncomfortable with a bunch of weird tamagotchi accessories. Most of the code you run to homebrew and crack consoles is opensource and you can read the code, again a "boogeyman" that doesn't exist, an excuse to "protect" consumers from something that almost never happens. Do you think other hackers are going to just sit idly by and let their consoles get malicious code installed into their systems? Most malicious code is caught long before it can be used maliciously by other smart people who let it be known to everyone that it's not safe to use. I assure you, If something fails it's not because of the piracy boogeyman.

@@OtakuWrath Witcher 3 is the biggest example of what you're describing. That game was probably one of the most pirated of the 2010s and still made insane amounts of money for CDPR. When the media asked CDPR about their DRM-free policy they just replied that those who truly wanted to buy it, would buy it, even after pirating. And given the chatter on piracy forums and subreddits back then, that was the overall sentiment and attitude of most people engaging in piracy.

what did u expect? lol

@@HomikaGaming A weeb girl defending Sony? I am shocked SHOCKED I say! I also find it hilarious what you say about Nintendo when they have no problem sinking millions into going after normal people for stuff that doesn't even affect their sales. People like you are why Sony's bloated corpse still has yet to fall

So Digital Homicide did a Digital Suicide?

WUT. How can some people be so entitled and stupid?

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@@DanteKG. the replies are anonymous

Many do not realize this

USA call it freedom!

Welcome to our modern world!

Sony is a terrible company. Just google what they did to musicians. I don't buy their junk anymore.

he literally openly encouraged and spread ways to tamper, wtf is so wild to think about? he was blatantly in the fkn wrong lmfao.

We have a BrainDead president, people who believe there are more than 2 genders... "How could anybody in their right mind uphold that kind of behavior? The mere fact is disgusting."

Yeah, correct! Sony did a lot of things that messed up a lot of people by using the "law" to get what they want. To me this story is one of justice, prudish people obviously would scoff at the idea but sometimes you really do need to hurt them where it matters......

In thier culture crime is shame. A criminal committing crime would not shame a hard working company. Sony is definitely something they take pride in

Attacking Sony has different tone that most of u guys can't even imagine!!! At the beginning it was all about "Anon" but in later stages someone "else" took over to finish the Sony and not just the company but the country of Japan itself. and whats more is related to Fukushima disaster on the same year and months!!!!! MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE SHEEP AND DO NOT KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING ON IN THIS WORLD.

Can't or won't? The government is owned by those corporations.

That's the thing though, Sony helped usher in the modern age of "you don't own what you buy you just rent them from us"

I personally disagree. While the laws and the court system aren't perfect, it is way better then some vigilante group picking and choosing what is right and wrong based on how they are feeling and acting upon it. Especially when the vigilantes resort to doxxing, blackmailing ect.

⁠@@Synndolyn I suppose I don’t really see how they’re different in the long run. Both choose who’s right and wrong and can coerce under the threat of violence. In a perfect world court systems should be enough, experience has taught us they’re not.

@@victisomega4248 The problem is when a person is innocent, the court says they are, but vigilantes think they're not and attack them. Or when they go after the wrong ones because they don't have the evidence (or need thereof) courts and the justice system have.

​@@ThedutchjelleVigilanty justice not for people, but corporations and governments

@@Thedutchjelle again I think that’s in the ideal scenario. In reality people are setup and innocent people have been and continue to get hurt by our justice system. In an ideal scenario with vigilante justice, they’d never make a mistake either. You can argue maybe the court system we have is less prone to error, but even then I’d be wary about agreeing to that as well.

yeah a true visionary and there are few things that is so satisfying to stab the bad toxic protective features of apple products.

Steve Jobs was always an asshole and Wozniak knew it. Jobs and Wozniak paired down an Atari circuit board during a competition that would net the winner a $5,000 bonus. Wozniak was able to design a board with *50* less processors than the one Atari designed...they won the contest. It didn't have some features but Atari still paid out the full $5,000 however, Steve told Wozniak they had only won $750 and they split it two ways. Steve Jobs is an absolute douche...and that is why he was a great salesman.

Sounds like he was a kindred spirit and admired him for his creativity and genius. I am never a fan of closed ecosystems as it is usually because when you have a captive audience you don't try as hard and dictate what the customer wants. American car industry number #1 offender. I am now fighting Windows every time there is an update trying to force me to login with my MS account when I only want local accounts. Maybe some advantages but the nagging and dark patterns tell me it is for their benefit, not mine.

@@rogerpearson9081 The car industry sadly is regulated by the EPA which is run by a bunch of liberals who have no idea about cars or guns.

Woz is the king of nerds. He made a nixie tube watch for crying out loud! How cool is that!

yeah the number is pulled out of their ass so they can sue any pirate they see for all their worth because corporate greed

Tbh I pirate games cause they don't provide demos anymore. If the game I download wasn't fun, I'd not lose any money cause I didn't buy it. But if it's a good game, I bought it not just to support the devs, but also to have my achievements, my mods and update support, bug report, .... Like Lord Gaben said, to beat pirates, provide better customer support.

@@manhphuc4335 ftr demos are provided by developers, not by publishers or stores

Exactly. If I remember correctly, neither the film industry nor the music industry in the US saw falls in sales and cinema attendance figures grew steadily when Limewire and The Pirate Bay came along in spite of their claims. Sure CD sales eventually tanked but that was because of new media players and streaming services not pirating.

So what they're saying is the people get back 8 billion dollars in reclamation. Sounds fair to me.

Corporations can only speak in lies. It's their language.

Agreed. My eyes rolled over when I saw that. Corporations being garbage lying a**hats, no surprise there.

This comment reminds me of the last IDDUBZ video

@@byghostlight1 there is no money to lose, because just about all the time, the people pirating the games weren't gonna play them without pirating them, and most pirates i know have actually ended up buying games they weren't thinking about, because they played them free, enjoyed them, and wanted to support.

@@byghostlight1 and major companies are anti consumer, grinding out whatever profit they can at everyone and everything's expense, but their own upper management. I might feel bad, when they stop making murderers' look like saints by comparison

well it is sony

... it's really not. Both are literally infractions of either implied or implicitly stated ownership clauses. Modifying a device for purposes not specified by the manufacturer is probably somewhat common in "Fine print"/"Apple store" parlance.

@@davemccombswhich is a problem in itself, we should have a right to repair and whatnot

theyre asians... expect them to they have noo idea's so they steel them from others notice all the american resteraunts that only 1 letter changed there? lol

​@@davemccombsThe debate over whether those clauses are valid and enforceable is a complicated subject. Companies that successfully sue over stuff like this pick a jurisdiction with a corrupt and purposefully ignorant judge.

Pretty much.

*and just incidentally, i personally liked the penis in a hornet hive remark... stuff needs to be a bit silly in life. i find the constant overuse of "cringe" to honestly be the most cringe thing i can possibly imagine. but i know i'm a weirdo. i so don't see eye to eye w this era's pop consensus.

@@luceatlux7087 are you perhaps.. attracted to hornets?

I agree we took a fucking ton of heat and alot of us disappeared

When cops fucking shooting some of us that day and some innocents wearing the anonymous we started going off the grid for awhile. It was a honor to be a part of the group once anonymous always anonymous some really cool people in the past I talked to and was friends with. All I can say and nothing more as I won't be a part of it the groups return will be soon

Say hello to capitalism.

Not capitalism corporatism ​@@antediluvianatheist5262

@@antediluvianatheist5262*globalism* fixed your typo.

@@LBKXiLo “””anti-globalism””” is just anti-capitalism for idiots

@LBX It’s capitalism, buddy.

Companies like Sony have spent millions in lobbying governments around the world in order to enshrine into law the principle that you, in fact, do not own what you buy. The meta issue here is the degree to which economic power no longer merely influences policy, but has completely co-opted democracy.

worse than that the company thinks they own you now that you've bought their product

Easy. You use it as intended. As the instructions says

If I buy it, it's mine. Easy concept.

@@1eyeddevil929 sounds good.. on the surface. But thats not really the truth. Take a regular car and apply your logic. Only use it as per instructions. Then someone gets the bright idea to turn their van into a treehouse.. removing all the dirty parts ofc, and just keeping parts. The car is now NOT being used as instructed, nor has it been repurposed as instructed. The cars producer can now sue you for breaking contract .. using your logic. Cartyres for flowerbeds, tearing up old clothes, and using them for rags, Buying a machete, and then turn it into a falchion, and use it as a sword... You name it, anything that is not used as the producer intended, is now stuck , and can not be repurposed or used in any other way than what the instructions say. You either own it, or you dont. it is simple. If you own it, you can do what you want with it.

party, like its 2023? :D

Corporate fascists are the worst!

Alas, even with the costs and lost revenue to Sony, the corporation should have had it much harsher, and as the end of the video points out, its unlikely they learned their lesson, whereas some of the hackers where arrested.

Corrupt company? You mean government. No such thing as a corrupt company.

@@Goldo97 nope corporations have more power and money than governments do.

Really, Sony, Microsoft, *and* Nintendo have all treated their customers like shite. Think of Nintendo constantly policing the Smash Bros competitive scene or Microsoft's recent Bethesda debacles (Fallout 76, Redfall). A principled stance against Sony seems like it should also be a principled stance against Microsoft and Nintendo, too.

@@blackpajamas6600 😂 dude tried to lump microsoft and Sony together bcus microsoft decided, to stop sony from wanting to have a massive control in the market with exclusive games, to go ahead and buy several studios, a boss move if I do day so myself!

​@@blackpajamas6600you're deviating from the topic, we are talking about hurting consumers and Sony has done more by paying to prevent games launch on other consoles. On the topic itself, Microsoft is the most friendly here after opening their consoles securely to users (Dev Mode) and cheap.Then, Sony allows hacker on HackerOne to disclose their findings after a patch is issued and pays them for their findings. Nintendo is trash, nothing good to say.

@@lastjedi6985 Trying to create a monopoly on gaming is a boss move apparently. Unless I misunderstood.

Yup. The more I dug into Soyny, the more I wanted to see them crash and burn. I can say with certainty that I've not bought anything Soyny-related in years, and don't ever plan to ever again. Not even tempting shmups coming out on the ps4 are enough for me to buy anything for that shistain of a console. I never got rid of it, nor the paltry library of games I have, but I sure as shit won't respect Soyny and am sitting on it, waiting for the perfect CFW to come out and crack it wide open on the FW I'm sitting at. Fuck their authoritarian nonsense, just like how Nintendo can go fuck themselves about me hacking and modding my Switch. I can do whatever I damn well please to products I buy, and if they don't like it, they can die. :D

Aye. I gave up my HP printer for a Brother printer in 2014, probably before HP started fucking with printer customers. I smelled trouble when my HP printer gave out after only 2 years, and then the replacement gave out after 3. They're lucky they bought out supercomputer company CRAY, otherwise they'd be relegated to the fringe by now.

These companies are worth tens of billions of dollars each now, instead of just hundreds of millions, which when you go from hundreds of millions, or even low billions to tens of billions, the resources available are insane to comprehend.. The power they have to fight back hard isn't worth it, unless they have something to gain or have young black hats that go rouge, like say the Rockstar hacker recently.

You are Anonymous, if you choose to be. That's, like, literally the only prerequisite. Fly, my pretty.

Honestly, would that even be necessary by this point in time? These companies commitment to the woke mind virus and corporate greed arguably cause more damage to themselves than anyone else could. Eventually they'll destroy themselves. Or they'll be eventually forgotten.

There was a Battle Net DDOS attack a few days ago, so... maybe.

@@djHVNTER2 I was wondering if that was what happened. D4 was down for a little bit. Someone mad about their skills getting nerfed?

Like Disney for example.

True but the real victems here where there customers, at least if the person who stole the date sold it or used it to harm the ppl they got the passwords and CC numbers from.

it's like a ukrainian seeing putin fall out a window

Why? Do you not like having modern conveniences, like flat screen TVs, smart phones and appliances, and the software that runs them? Pull your head out of your ass, and forget everything your Marxist buddies and/or Communist Profs in your Indoctrination Center, have told you about 'The bad, baddy, baddest, greedy corp-o-washuns...

@@thewhitefalcon8539 'I support the current thing!'

Japanese culture is simply more authoritarian by nature. That some peasants might dare to get in the way of big businesses is already hard for them to grasp. That they actually end up succeeding is more or less unthinkable.

@@AliothAncalagon Nintendo is the worst out of all of them. It's not as bad as China however.

@@AliothAncalagon I tend to disagree about the succeed more part. Sony ultimately completely killed it's home appliances and consumer electronics brand (VIAO, BRAVIA, DTRAC, ANOMIX) by taking a stance of the corporations right and the user isn't which meant weird BS like proprietary ports none has ever heard of before to screens with unexplainably weird aspect ratios.

@@megatronskneecap they stopped psp, if they brought that back, it may have a huge comeback. but sony doesnt care about their true consumers

The Japanese government, much like Korea's enforces these global shenanigans. Just look at Japanese broadcast copyright laws. It's so damn backwards that actual Japanese radio stations are stuck on the airwaves. There are also plenty of tax WITEOFFS for bigger and bigger business, much opposite to the American tax policy where the richer are supposed to pay more tax. As I've said, Korea is no different Pantech is a recent company failure due to the Korean government corruption and proliferation of Samsung.

Sony has always been the WORST at propriety formats, unique interfaces, locked down code, and closed ecosystem design. I refuse to ever buy any thing they make. Beta Memorystick Viao fire speed ports PS loss of backward access just to name a few

yeah, honestly I kinda wish that Anonymous was a little more organized as a public "here you go, all the credit cards are officially decrypted and there is your proof Sony doesn't value it's customers, US and British legal systems do your thing" as that would've smartened Sony up and at least limited their shittiness. Like I understand that they want their proprietary games to give them extra money but they'd be able to get similar if not more cash if they simply attached a proprietary subscription to use said games on other devices and put stakes into their select proprietary games as well as that would allow them to mooch off of competitors and gain a much larger net income despite the lower console sales. Honestly amazed Sony is still even afloat with so many crappy business choices, like they really are so extremely conservative with their out-reach it's amazing they've managed to stay in the game so far.

@@InvestmentBankr If you dont buy from Sony then you are the one losing... But sure you do have an Iphone and APPLE has never been about money right???

@@whitewolf2767 No. I don't buy their crap either? Sony makes nothing worth owning. Have some principles... 🙄

@@InvestmentBankr As I said.. Either you are too naive or too biased.....

Don't touch a running CRT cathode/penthode/etc. 17kV make your hand feel numb for weeks!😅

@@tnaplastic2182 Strangely, when I left school I went and worked for Philips making 21" CRT's! ha. I was shocked a few times too! they were more 25kv

Money can buy anything, espacially justice and politicans

Strongly agree@@theRayzz

Democracy

@@theRayzz use your vote man stop this bullshoit

@@bingus549 haha ahh yes the old faithful voting idea tell me what happens when our vote gets stolen and it don't count anymore what do you do then?

Piracy is always an excuse. People who play pirated games were never going to buy the them. As Steam and Netflix both proved, the way you combat piracy is make things easily available, and affordable. Hots did nothing wrong.

​@FranNyan I admit I have done piracy, mostly due to the fact that owning 200 devices and getting the physical game media would be insane (300 dollars for Pokemon XD?!) Game companies need to work on accessibility.

Not true if you live in the eu.

But when you buy a device, it _is_ yours. The manufacturer wants it both ways: they want to sell their product through traditional retail channels, but they also want to have the benefits of retaining ownership and granting only limited licences to users. And that doesn't work. No matter what they put in their supposed EULAs, it fails (at least) the "consideration" test of contract law, because it's offering users nothing but a right to use, and that's something they already have as owners. If they want to deprive their users of the legal benefits of ownership, they'll have to do what the software industry learned to do: transcend retail, and force users to sign the agreement before they can ever take lawful possession of the goods.

@@FranNyan Some levels of piracy protection are needed (e.g., if you could upload all of Netflix's catalog to RU-vid with no means for Netflix to take it down, they can't really beat that), but generally yes, piracy is a service problem. Most people that pirate likely weren't going to buy it, or got a better experience on the pirated version for some other reason (e.g., no DRM, not being limited by console hardware, etc.). You also can't pirate something that isn't being sold (e.g., the Wii U and 3DS eshops shutting down), so companies have no claim there as long as the products are being offered for free. Going after pirates in any major way at the cost of your own product and/or customer goodwill will always end in failure. On a related note, I wonder about how reliable these new computers are in this respect. Things like email are integral to daily life, including your own computer and phone systems. Imagine how much damage would be done by getting your email deleted, and there'd be nothing you can do about it.

Piracy is the only thing mentioned in this video for the removal of OtherOS. Possibly the real reason for its removal was research organizations buying thousands of PS3s to make supercomputer clusters. That would have been great if Sony wasn't selling them at a loss expecting to make their money back and more via game sales. However, research organizations don't buy games, so that is a lot of money lost. If the $300/unit loss I'm seeing quoted is accurate, then just the cluster Air Force Research built with 1760 consoles would have cost Sony $528,000. Ouch.

@@mmilley I got a semi just reading that

I did mention in my comment that scientists were buying and using them. Not really the consumers problem though, if hardware makers choose to sell at a loss in the hopes of making money back later through licensing, thats a gamble they make.

@@mmilley The US Airforce really demonstrates how big a motivation it was.

@@mmilley Reminds me of Reddit. Reddit shut down app "RIF is Fun" because they claimed they were costing too much money to run. But then people hooked up RIF to their own billing accounts, and STILL got banned because it's really about the app for some reason and not the money.

Exactly. It's why I get surprised at how people will rush to defend a company they're blindly loyal to.

Yeah...I'm sure you would rather trade in all of your tech and go back to when we all had local commerce right? Don't...please, don't...BE AN IDIOT! Un-program yourself from the indoctrination. The only way we get the modern conveniences we have, is by pulling resources, taking risks, and being rewarded for the successes, after suffering all the failures...

@trontosaurusrex9532 Some companies are actually quite good to their customers.

​@@iluvpandas2755this guy, lmfao

@@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman its not wrong. there are some ethic companies, but people should understand that that's the exception to the rule. i forgot the name but there is a company thats selling pharmaceutical at non-profit prices. there is no monetary incentive behind it.

The weirdest part is that it likely resulted in the death of SOCOM, as that game's 4th entry came out during the hack

that was a fine game to buy by the way!

Having taken a few days off even?

Nah!

​@@cpt_nordbartthe psn hack lasted months.

And he lost, in one of the worst ways possible--by bowing out of his own cause when it grew out of his control. So what does that tell you?

@@nukepuke932 I suspect it means he was in on it. The whole exploit was aimed at delegitimizing Anonymous, and it worked. Nobody would ever suspect some random dude and a huge corporation could outsmart international anarchists, but the public never appreciates the value of unlimited resources and the reality that the court of public opinion cannot be reasoned with.

@@nukepuke932 Nothing but "there is nothing to stop corporates against a single poor man"

@@nukepuke932 Not his fault

@@nukepuke932 Ah yes, he should have taken the jesus route and died a martyr! Why didnt a single man take on a multi-million dollar conglomerate?? Crazy how he didnt want to get wrung dry along with thousands of others. Regardless of how you frame it, he stayed true to his virtues til the end. Speaking openly about what he wanted and what he wished for, him signing off on personally not tampering with their products is nothing worth scoffing at. Use your head.

till they give out your info from the breach but ya i can agree.

@@willdevine2998 If you're trusting these corps enough to put your data there, I'd argue it's on you as well.

@@willdevine2998 That's the whole point though. Hence why Sony then got sued after being hacked. They didn't protect their customer's data.

If corporations are legally considered people then their boards should be jailed when they commit crimes since they are ultimately responsible for the company's actions. If not for the crimes specifically then at least on conspiracy charges/aiding and abetting.

Look into blackrock

lol

​@@brittanycunningham787Blackrock Is the "lucifer" of evil coroprations and deserve a financial death with no support from taxpayers in their death throws!

What's the diff?

Anon are script kiddies these days. Their entire thing is trying to stay relevant by "taking down" barely used government website front ends using premade tools. The media and people who don't know any better will continue to try and make them bigger and smarter than they actually are.

Serves Sony right. Glad they got a black eye. Too bad other Mega Corporations are still doing business as usual.

its mainly the courts that made an overreach.. not sony. the responsibility for protecting rights lies with the law. they should have denied sonys claims and anonymous could just as well gone after the justice system

You dont know what the fuck you are talking about. The current Anon-Group is all feds and fed-informants.

Yeah because members of anonymous have never been involved in illegal activity like stealing credit card information.

The internet is a box that can be broken with flash photography. You mean don't mess with the elders of internet.

Indeed. You can absolutely beat 'The Internet'... but rule one of doing so is 'win first... then don't go to war at all because you don't need to because you've already won'.

Source?

I heard the same

then, this is make sense how anonim get access into administrator server

As someone who worked in network security years ago it was almost predictable how many networks had a big old spreadsheet called "passwords" just sitting out in the open on a server's drive. Like, not even hidden in a directory or anything, never mind named something cryptic or, heaven forbid, actually password protected. Most of the breaches I worked on were situations where the client had basically done it to themselves by being complacent and lazy. One thought they were being clever by storing the passwords spreadsheet on a USB drive, but then left that drive plugged in 24/7 with no password protection. Ugh.

@@woopimagpie yow wtf ? they left it ? but as I know bigger companies using generated password every time for confirmation of the password right ? if they don’t use it that so fuckup

Big companies with unlimited lawyers can get courts to agree to almost anything.

Dont forget the court, which basically had no idea what was going on. They acted in favor of the "villain" until it was far to late. Homestly, you cant make this stuff up!

@@maxave7448 they always do look how hunterbiden can just use crack and meth whatever but if me or you did we be slammed! i wonder what is the law on jurry nulification on say a drug dleaer on grounds they shouldent be punished untill hunter is punished?

Well... the best science fictions stories i've heard were always the ones made in massive rpg's by real humans, like EVE online. Basically the whole partition in half of the galaxy between 1 giant empire and a massive amount of small federations that fough together afainst a single threat in itself already gives fundamentals for the story... i wonder whats the situation with this game now.

Nice

Nah, anonymous is a villain.

Trusting the data more than Sony? That didn't seem apparent in the video. xd

I think you remember it slightly different to the rest of us. There was mass panic and millions of us trying to get our information secure. I don't recall anyone dumb enough to trust complete strangers with their data. We don't even trust the people we pay to keep it safe. Anonymous isn't your friend. You were just collateral in their attack on Sony. If they needed to leak your personal data to make a point then they would.

They are doing something about it. 😏

We must stop them at all costs

The real problem will be our governments. Just wait and see.

Honestly you don't deserve the job you're in if as a cyber security worker you praise hackers ..... the very people you're PAID to stop.

@@TPCDAZlmao. What a dumb comment

​@@TPCDAZhackers give him his job lmao. Of course he's gonna be happy about its creation.

@@TPCDAZ in that case, I don’t think you understand how cybersecurity works. It’s not just a defensive term lol

@@bompo328 It literelly is a defensive term by definition. The next time you want to try to act big you should probably learn the basics - "Cyber security is how individuals and organisations reduce the risk of cyber attack" < -----definition. Now off you pop.

@@user-qv5sm5dw1v aren't emulators just the best thing! Nintendon't tried to make them illegal a while back and failed, thankfully. I use them to play old games I played as a child but at 4k resolution and 60fps now.

@minotaurbison+ How does a newbie learn how to do these things. I've always been fascinated by people that are able to modify computers to their own specs and modify games, which I'm not sure what kind of Mods can be done. One example being, in an FPS game I want to have unlimited ammo or perfect aim, is that a possible modification? Any help/info is greatly appreciated!! :)

@@chefscorner7063 as for how, I'd recommend spending some time on google, that's how I do it now. In the early years, I was lucky to have people in my friends group who would sit down and show me how to do things. Getting infinite ammo and such really depends on the game, offline games often can be "hacked" by using cheat engine... online games, I would really suggest not trying as it is highly frowned upon... again, google is your best bet as each game is different and most of the time someone has already written a "trainer" for it. There are a number of good videos online showing how to "hack" nearly every game out there, so search out YT videos too... Modifying hardware settings is super easy to do and usually the manufactures have their own software to do it for you these days, for example, AMD has Ryzen Master and Adrenaline software. Modding windows is a little more involved...sometimes... usually involving editing the registry and startup settings... Best thing to do is google, google, and google some more, lots of reading. Just keep in mind, sometimes you can really bork things up, so be ready to re-install stuff.

Yeah, but is it Candy Apple Teal and only has one button so gradmaw can't get confused?? God Bless Capitalism! 🇺🇸

@@user-qv5sm5dw1v how can I run switch game on PC?

It's good because of how true it can actually end up becoming with some companies. Ferrari are notorious for suing their own customers because if you so much as modify their cars they are likely to C&D you, and may even attempt to come steal the car to destroy it. (yes this is a real thing, many times companies suing over vehicles will not only force a Cease and Desist, but it comes with conditionally destroying the vehicle entirely to ensure the C&D is adhered to; fuck anyone who dose this, they should be shot for theft and nothing less.) I've seen a few RU-vid groups buy Ferraris to modify them into absolute mockery of the brand as a means to incite Ferrari to lash out and prove the point. It's your car, not the companies. Meanwhile, a father and son started 3D printing a whole ass Lamborghini from scans of a 1:16th scale model. Lamborghinis response? Fly their CEO out to the see the car and give them them a gift for supporting the brand... Polar opposites, and you have to wonder why Lamborghini is generally so much more represented and popular in media today. This is why, their company respects customers freedom to do with their vehicles as they wish. Ferrari will throw a tantrum if you paint it a non-approved color.

@@lunasakara7306 Whats funny is that the entire reason that Ferruccio Lamborghini began making cars to begin with was because he took offense to Ferraris poor customer service and elitist attitude towards their customers.

What was the recent one MtG and Pinkertons? Companies are getting crazy. Telling ya what to say, breaking into your house, this that or another all over the fact you bought something from them and now they think they own you.

Actually, they are quite aggressive with their patents, especially those that involve genetic modification. You don't see it in the US, but you do in the 3rd world. They even sue farmers that didn't use their seeds when the seeds somehow end in their land, and those seeds require using their own pesticides, which kills everything else including the local crops so you depend to theirs and nothing else ever grows there again. There is Green Giant and others, those companies are nasty.

It was a popup screen for a while when you would log in to PSN.

Congress Person: Did your company Apple ever use data to target my phone with your scam hardware? "shows a Nokia" Defendant: Sir, that's a Nokia not an Iphone, we don't own Nokia... Congress Person: it's a yes or no question did you send that information to my phone! Defendant: Sir, it's a Nokia we have no control over that brand or what they do. Congress Person: I see so your clearly avoiding answering a simple yes or no question with false information at hand. When i infact am showing you proof on my phone here. "shows Nokia again" Defendant: Could i have this conversation with a different Congress person that understands the words coming out of my mouth please?

stay safe and live in a forest

Well, that is a dumb idea that will never fly.

@@joeking433 to be real that's how we've been doing things for centuries even today

It's because they are in charge. People ask why the normal Germans didn't stop the Nazis. The answer is the Nazis had all the guns.

or maybe we should use that second amendment more.

Sounds like some real hippy shit

Japanese in a nutshell.

My dealings with japanese companies over security issues allowing skipt kiddies and spammers to run riot meant that I wasn't AT ALL surprised when Anonymous went through Sony like a hot knife through butter Standard Japanese practice to being notified that hackers were resident on XYZ system at address w.x.y.z was to change its IP to w.x.y.z+1, along with blocking the notifier and denying there was a problem It was vastly more effective to notify Japanese media and have them ask embarrassing questions of the C-level staff, who would then come down on the IT drones like hellfire from above

Its not like the people who spend years of their life learning how to and actually creating the property will ever matter to kids like Hotz, Samwu, or Skoomey.

​@@samwu1836Meanwhile, the typical American acts overtly that way even outside of said "nutshell." With you being case in point.

That was an awfully low bow, though; and the lower you bow in Japan, the more humility you show. Andrew Garfield was fired from Spiderman by Sony because he didn't bow low enough (or didn't bow at all, it not being an American custom, and all).

You're not understanding something here. It's not a matter of "should have crushed Sony", it's a matter of getting innocent people involved as a result of trying to crush the giant. By trying to destroy Sony, people's information were revealed. Because Anonymous is a conglomerate of many people without a leader or grouping, there were those that attacked the wrong way. They involved people's private information. You wouldn't want your private information along with many others out there just to take down a gaming company, would you? Well, even if you're okay with it, others aren't. And if one can't respect the wishes of other people, then what's the point of all this? It was all supposed to be for the rights of the people.

But you know the bootlickers would have been angry at anonymous.

@@HatesRacists lol what are they gonna do to anonymous though? call the police? anonymous has a lot of power

@@Likemea Anon cares about the people and would have stopped because the bros would be crying about not being able to play skyrim and call of duty.

@@HatesRacists oh ok

I just learned about SQL attacks, that's wild!

you wouldn't believe how many big companies make that same mistake. or how easy is to prevent it.

By the time you see the data coming in. Your breach has been written down. By the time you shut it off your information has been leaked to the server since SQL injection requires a verification sequence. That Sequence sets a mark.

@@inceneration I'm talking about SQL injections at the time of SONY's breach. Don't know how much further SQL injections has evolved. At that time, SQL injection was a new thing in the curriculum of web developers. So, yes it was already well know, but as Daniel Rossell Solanes says "you wouldn't believe how many BIG companies made that mistake." Even when a begining web developer already knew about it and knew what to do against it. The common mistakes made at the time which made websites vulnerable to SQL injection (SONY's too] 1. Don't parse user input at the login page. 2. The 'user' used to access the database form the website was usually a default user with admin rights on the database. So, you say "SQL injection requires a verification sequence". I don't know what you mean about that. At the time we didn't need to do a verification or authentication what so ever. HTTPS wasn't a standard/compulsory, and even if it was used, not a problem. The steps involved where: 1. go to the login page of a website 2. put your crafted SQL code into the field for the username 3. press enter 4. enjoy your access to the user database with admin rights. Bonus, passwords where usually not encrypted at that time. In other words the login page becomes your terminal to the database. All they got is my IP address, which I could change with one command. Usually, the companies that didn't gave a shit about the basic security on their login page , did neither with their logs. SONY did that mistake too. The first solution to SQL injection at the time was parsing the user input on the client side with javascript and regular expressions. Didn't toke to long for hackers to thwart that with their own javascript. And that's how the wheels are turning. Don't know how this is done today with sever side security. But I can imagine that this does involve 'verification' of some sort, just guessing here.

90% of financial databases( i mean the large ones) are exposed. Just saying.