your channel and these videos will be the strongest reason i end up buying a zv-e10. What a great coverage you have done on this tiny nifty powerful camera. Thank you mark, for doing such in depth review over one single product, and not just doing it for the sake, but also using it as your main camera in so many situations.
Guess what, after watching hours and hours of your amazing, often hilarious, and absolutely useful videos, i have bought a ZV-E10 with Sigma 18-50mm 2.8. Cant wait to get back to using a proper camera after years. Thanks Mark for your channel and such interesting analysis :)
after going through tons of videos on RU-vid, I found your channel and mate I must say its absolutely remarkable. I bough 3 Sony zv-e10 and sigma lens suggested by you last week and I am so impressed with the quality of the camera. It was all possible because of you. Thank you for putting in so much efforts.
Nice to see you documenting your changes in opinions as they come! This channel has been invaluable in developing my understanding of my ZV-e10. My novice skill level and the fact most of my film work is in environments with uncontrolled lighting means I probably won’t use this for a while but good to know!
Mark, first of all, thanks for showing and teaching us. Just bought my ZV-E10 and I am loving it! I am now at the point where I need to sort out the picture profiles. For a studio shot, I don't mind calibrating everything but what if I plan to wake up, hit record and start vlogging in various environments / circumstances. In your opinion, what PP (process) should I use to achieve the footage you are showing us here since I am also considering buying the Leeming lut. Many thanks for all!
You can also use higher saturation in the camera or a different color mode like s-cine tone or ITU-709 Matrix color mode with high saturation and the Slog3 gamma, and this will actually help keep the colors together bettter when shooting 8-bit. I used to do this all the time with my a73, and it worked so well I barely noticed when switching to 10-bit as long as I had my white balance nailed down.
Great video. I've been using ZVE10 for 2 years now and I've had plenty of successful experiments with colorgrading all the color profiles(mostly random experiments). Some footage was out of this world, some waste of time. So don't you dare to buy anything more expensive if you didn't squeeze all the juices from ZVE10 people! Amazing camera.
Thanks for this video. I was scared to use SLOG3 with my ZV-E10 but I have now started - I'm loving the results! Somehow the Leeming LUT looks better when using SLOG3 than with HLG3. It seems like you get color artifacts if you don't lock your exposure. I'm only using EV +1.0 in SLOG3 and use Leeming Athena. In Premiere, I increase my exposure by 2.5 and that seems to do the trick. Then just add contrast to taste. The focusing issues seem to occur when your camera is under-exposed. Using EV +1.0 or above is fixing the focusing issues. So far I'm leaving my white balance on auto and it's working fine. Need to experiment more and see.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Quick update - I've been playing with slog3 a lot today. Turning on Gamma Assist in setup seems to help the camera focus better. Keeping White Balance on Auto doesn't affect the image
i use the zv-e10 with the sigma 16mm f1.4 lens as a webcam most times. 720p quality over USB-C is good, but 4k24 over HDMI with elgato usb 4k stick is better. i use usb-c for notebooks and elgato for desktop. The picture quality is so good! Its outstanding! and you have full control over everything! no faulty windows driver, messing around with settings, or dont offer access to it!
Mark, as the ZV e10 world’s top expert 😊, I have a question only you may know: if I output 1080p60 via HDMI to an Atem Mini, without recording internally does the file format for rec settings (4K or 1080p) would impact the HDMI output quality? Like, if the camera set to record in 4K would it output a better 1080p via HDMI? Thanks a lot for you input and keep the great work on this marvelous piece of gear!
it’s possible, because Gerald Undone showed setting the A1 camera to 8k but recording to a 4K recorder made better footage. but I’ve never tried that. Maybe give it a test a and do a side-by-side
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisWill do and let you know. I don’t want to loose the eye tracking on 4k30 and I don’t like 4k24 for streaming, but I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the reply, next pint of apple juice is on me 😊
REVOLUTIONARY!!! Thanks Mark as always!!! Can you try S-Log2 with the ITU-709 matrix color profile? I think DSLR video shooter made a video about it and said that was the setting that gives maximum dynamic range while not breaking up the colors. Can you do a S-Log3 vs HLG3 comparison? Just want to see if there's any visible dynamic range difference?
So what is a better vlog camera ? The zve10 with a wide lens, or a Nikon z30 with kit lens? The zve10 with an additional lens is then almost the same as the zve1
@@spirittravels. Imho the ZV-E10 is for sure the better vlog camera (than the Nikon Z30). However, if you _do_ want to get into the Nikon system, the Z30 may be a good starting point, but the ZV-E10 is a much better camera. A ZV-E10 with an additional lens (for example a Sigma 16mm or 30mm or Viltrox 23mm) will be approximately around $1000-1150, if you get the ZV-E10 stock price ($698). If you get it used, however, you can really cut down prices, and the whole setup could be less than $1000, which is less than half the price of the ZV-E1 currently! Of course, it's up to you to decide, but the ZV-E10 is never a bad starting point imo.
@@spirittravels. Here's actually a great review Mark himself did a while back! Totally forgot about it until I saw it in the suggestions: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BaDOrqeIpfQ.htmlsi=IHmJ_yDUnYD8lMDd
Yet another win for the little zv-e10. I love that little camera. I e said it many times but for the money the zv-e10 is unbeatable. I have a FX30 and A7IV but find myself using my zv-e10 for quick easy shooting.
Would you recommend the zv e10 as a secondary camera for video at weddings? I need a camera that can record for 45 minutes without heat problems. Thanks!
@@lewcehjitl3282 FX30 is absolute unit. It can work in direct sunlight on a 100 degree day at 60fp 4k and never miss a beat but for photos it’s not great. The A7iv is great because it downs phot and video amazing. If I had to pick one and only one for hybrid use A7iv all day.
@@dandelionestudios you may have battery life issues at 45 minutes. The zve10 still uses the small battery. That’s what makes it able to fit in you coat pocket. You may want a FX30 or A7C
I've been watching your channel for so long, and watched a lot of videos about "not using S-log 3" on the ZV-E10, but I start shooting two months ago in S-Log3 to start practicing color grading, and I thing it's really good, so good to see that your start using it too ahaha Keep up the great work dude! ✌
Hey Mark! Thank you for this video! What a crazy coincidence as I’ve been exploring S-Log profiles on my little Dougie last couple of days! I was extremely confused about eye-detection problems with S-Log profiles while overexposed, good to know this is a common issue. First of all, I should say, your channel is on the “Special Thanks” section of LeemingLUT website! Congrats on that! And I don’t think you can say “he doesn’t know me” from now on 😂 And also, in regard to auto focus issues again, my best workaround so far is to disable eye detection whatsoever (you can easily do that just by enabling product showcase mod), then set autofocus area to “Zone” and move it where your pretty mug is going to be in frame. Then I step down by 2 notches parameters regarding to auto-focus responsiveness, so it doesn’t distract immediately to waving hands etc. And there you go, this way I get pretty consistent picture in terms of focus and almost no backlights pulsing. Cheers!
Mark, I did get the Sony ZV-E10 as you suggested for indoor talking head videos for RU-vid. (I still don't have the Sigma 16mm f1.4) All the other things you talk about here seem overwhelming to say the least. I don't want to become a cinematographer or video expert but do want a decent looking, kind of pro/cool looking video for RU-vid and talk about my topics. *What would be the simplest way of doing this, with less amount of extra gadgets, least amount of tweaking, and the least amount of settings?* Do you have a video or video series for those people like me? Thank you for all you share and teach.
I'm confused with all these profiles. I guess it depends on personal preference but finally, which one is the best? Can you show us the S-Log3 settings? Is there anything that we have to change to the default?
Your videos have helped me quite a bit. I started a welding RU-vid channel for fun, but I already want to step things up and do other content. I've cleared out a small room in our house that was mainly being used for storage to use as my mini studio. I just got a ZV-E10 along with a Sigma 16mm lens. I went from a GoPro 7 to a GoPro 12, and from using the GoPro mic to a Comica wireless one. I then started debating using my older A6000, but the lack of 4k, and no mic input make it less than ideal for video. I'm about to paint, once that's done I can start setting things up! Any color recommendations?
a grey is great. not too light or dark. medium (or middle grey like the grey card) Great for skin tones and you can change the colour by shining any light on it. also great for knowing your white blade is proper.
Thank you soo much for this video, I've got a Zv-E10 a few weeks ago and I'm still practicing, I've read that when you shoot in Log-3 you have to use the ETTR technique ( from +1.7 to +2 MM), but when I'm trying to increase the Metered Manual, I've got this message "Not available in the current ISO setting. Valid when set to "ISO Auto". Could you give me some advise, please. Thank you in any case
I love my small rig lights and soft boxes- pro level videography at a really affordable price. I honestly think the lighting gear set up for a shoot gets way more attention to give you that professional look to people watching you work, than the camera setup when shooting on location! Lol.
If you want to reduce banding (which happens alot with shooting slog 2&3 on 8 bit cameras). Add at least +20 saturation to the slog 2 or 3 picture profile. And in post when you use the transform luts (like leeming or phantom or Sony s709 lut) reduce the overall saturation by the percentage you increase it in camera and banding is gone or severally reduced. I prefer phantom luts. They give a very natural cinematic look equivalent to arri log c.
Thank you for reminding me about those excellent LUTs. Quick question: Do you notice any unusual color artifacts, especially on the skin? RU-vid's conversion should eliminate most of them, so it's hard to tell. However, I've been able to fix these issues by increasing the saturation by +20 in Picture Profile and then reducing it in post-processing. It's a good tip for anyone having the same issue.
Great Mark!! Thanks. I was really looking forward to a video like this one. It def isn't easy for beginners to shoot log and get really good shots. You're the best!
Hello, I watched you and bought the zve-10 with sigma 16mm lens for my own media site's RU-vid channel. You are a great content creator. I'm glad you're here. But I have a question for this video. I am still a beginner. And I like how you shoot slog3 like in this video and then add lut and add sharper effect. But final cut pro is very expensive. Can you do it through Davinci Resolve? Because it's free. I really need this. Thank you,
Absolutely - in fact - I would recommend you use Davinci Resolve over any editing program. Even though it is free - it is the best. You can just add sharpening in camera (turn to 0) or do a search on how to add sharpening in Davinci
try using Slog3 but set in camera color to IUT709 instead of sgamut and do the color space transformation in Davinci resolve; just transform the gamma from slog3 to rec709. it looks imho better than slog3 to 709 leeming lut. problem with 8bit slog is not in gamma but in colorspace; using 709 eliminates color noise in 8bit and gives the superior image.
you, I just start trying slog 3 for the sony zv e10 yesterday, with itu709 matrix it is soo good
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In your opinion, which is the best for recording in the studio for RU-vid? What configuration you use in PP? And you use exposure in +1.7? Im from brazil, thanks for sharing knowledge
Im in the mindset that they wouldn’t add it as a feature if it wasn’t useable? ive found over exposing 1.3-1.7 is the best way to get good results with this setting. Really enjoying the ZV-E10.
Beautiful channel! Im a newbie and Im learning a ton from you. I want to start my youtube channel and have been planning to purchase ZVE10. Is it still worth purchasing now? Or should I wait a little for an update since it’s been out for 2 years? Or should I be looking at other cameras?
Thanks man. Need to save this video for a more in depth review. Will you be doing an in-depth workflow between zv-e10 and ninja v, including exposure? Your landman (landman?) Undone made a couple of them with the legalization toggle and set up but I think you can beat him in his terrain! And it will help us mortals to understand better!
Hello, I'm thinking of buying this as a backup camera for Canon R6. What would you recommend as an affordable lens? Unfortunately, prices in Turkey are very expensive.
Hi. I'm about to buy a ZV-E10 or a6400 for you tube. What is the best nowadays. zvE10 has more usefull plug ins, but the a6400 has еру Viewfinder and flashlight (could be usefull if i decide to take a photo). can't decide. Which one is better in 2k23/2k24 ??
The zv-e10 is a little better for video because it has the flip out screen and gyro data and e-stabilization and an updated autofocus. The evf is definitely nice for photos, but I would still recommend the zv-e10
For better lighting, do what I do and light a candle turn off the lights start recording and make sure you do not blow out the flame on the candle. Test for low light and call your new lighting system Flickering Light. Cheers!
Great content as usual and really pleased that Little Dougie still finds his way into your camera bag. I have many Sony Cameras from A7iii up to the FX3 and really pleased with the results. But with these higher end cameras I expect them to deliver great results because of the cost. But always surprised at how good the videos from the ZV-E10 are and top top value to buy. Going to buy the leeming luts now on the back of this video. Keep plugging Little Dougie - a little beast that snaps at the heels of bigger dogs!!! Be great though if Meike or the like built a battery grip for the ZV-E10 as the battery life as mentioned is rubbish. I know there is a third party one out there but the design and build quality looks questionable.
I have ended up with pp off. Did some hlg and can easily see how much better it is than ppoff. But then i grab my cam for a few photos, and since I'm usually in a hurry, or just being quite whimsical, i shoot a few rounds before realising that im in hlg mode on the photos too. Of course nothing you can't save by using the raw files. Nut more often than not I just want to use the beautiful jpegs straight from the camera. Wish i could have different settings for stills and video.
Thanks for the content as always, Mark! I thought I wasn't missing out on Slog3 but now it might be back in the toolbox 😅. For someone who doesn't need to color match between different cameras as you need, which would be higher in your rank: Cine2, HLG3 or Slog3? The ZVE10 is my only camera and I'm going with Cine2 with the Leeming Lut Pro currently.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Same here, i don't see myself using a 10-bit camera in the near future (currently only zv-e10) and looking for a good setup for solo run and gun, natural light only. I shoot manual mode for full control and want to have some space for color grading in the footage, but I can't expect perfect light situations and usually have short time schedule. Every guide/tutorial/suggestion out there finishes with "do some more digging online", well, I've dug about everything there is but still not sure which profile to use... What would you suggest for my setup and needs? Interiors and exteriors, landscapes and architecture. No action, at times talking head interviews. Thanks for a great channel!
Nice video as always. So which picture profile do you recommend for outdoor shooting such as vlogs or cinematics so that we can get the maximum dynamic range possible? ( my self and the sky😂)
If you are shooting in the bright sun, you’ll have to choose between exposing for the face or the sky on even a full frame camera. Production companies will use giant sheets of diffusion for outdoor shots in the bright sunlight
Your excitement is absurdly contagious. Thanks for that. Question. I have a color checker for photography, what's the difference with the one for video exactly? Can I use the one that I have for video?
you can use that for video, but it doesn’t have the same swatches in the same places. the video editors can sometimes just automatically line up the video checker and do it for you. And more importantly, the video colour checker has the black, middle grey and white strip which makes it easier to adjust you exposure. but you can make any colour checker work, just marks out the black to white chips and you’ll be able to do a similar thing.
Haha I’m so glad you were wrong bc I have had a ZVE10 since day one and I’ve been hoping that the slog 3 was not as shit as the internet made it out to be. The ZVE10 is so much more capable than it should be at its price it’s true value that keeps it right around the #1 selling camera on Amazon even with many more newer better feature Rich cameras but nothing beats the value of that DOUGIE!
Been thinking for a while to grab this, however I’m also considering FX30 or even A7C II. I just started doing some video content and I want something that I can see for both videos/photography. What would you pick?
On 8-bit Sonys, turning off internal recording and recording to ProRes on an Atomos Ninja V adds a lot more latitude for grading SLOG2/3, it also 'solves' the quirk of losing face AF and the 30 minute record limit using an external monitor (on an A7III, etc.)
Hello, I think it would be interesting for you to make videos about even the smallest things about cameras, because there are things I don't really know. Many times when using a camera, I can't use all of its features, but thanks to you, I now know more about the features and uses of the camera. Thank you, and every time your video appears, I always watch :) Even though I don't have those high-end devices, the entertainment spirit is very good. :D Rarely does anyone on RU-vid have a funny and cheerful face like yours.
Hey Mark, thanks for posting this! Do you have a tutorial without the Leeming LUT? I tried following this by using Sony's LUT (since its free) but can't seem to replicate colors even with a color checker passport. (Also following another tutorial with the color checker.) At some point, I will get the Leeming LUT, but can't right now.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I appreciate your quick reply! And looking forward for that tutorial! 🥲 I hope your RU-vid channel skyrockets to the stars! Wishing you all the success and recognition you deserve.
Can you make a video on how to use the leeming luts on videos taken in environments where the white balance and exposure is always changing? For example: I have the zve-10 and I like to shoot car cinematics which includes lots of run and gun shooting. That causes the light in the area as well as the white balance to constantly change. How could I set my camera up to allow me to still use the leeming luts while not being able to adjust white balance and exposure on the fly.
great video again sir, aside the great videos where i learn new and beneficial things every time, sometimes i pop in to watch your video because of that beat playing in the background, it's so groovy. is it custom made for you/your channel or you got it off a song or instrumental?
I have been watching all your ZVE10 videos.... Like mad.....😅😅 Bcos I wanna purchase this camera ( along with 30mm F1 4 Sigma) Only thing that is a deal breaker for me that's is ABSENCE OF EVF. would you please please share some tips or hacks so that I dint suffer outdoors ? I'm more inclined to photography - Portrait especially n some street photography as well.(enthusiast Hobbyist) 🙏🙏
I know this is odd, but is there a way to send video in from an external source to the zv-e10 to monitor from the flip screen? Dont ask why ;) Can't find any info on it.
It would be interesting to see a video of LeemingLut vs just using the Sony one or one of the many free ones available online, e.g. FreshLuts. It just feels like a bit of a downgrade in usability to have a crippled exposure meter + reduction in autofocus performance, etc. I've recently tried every mode on my ZV-E1 when it comes to exposure, multi, centre weight, face priority, manually exposing with zebras set to 70%, etc, etc and multi face priority was to my surprise great (in simple-ish studio like yours). I then downloaded a few random highly rated LUTs from FreshLuts and tried both SLOG3 and Rec.709 LUTs and both looked really fantastic and to my eye appeared as better starting points than LeemingLut, without the usability downgrades. I'm a colour grading noob though so maybe I am missing something obvious.
Can you please make a dedicated video on the Viltrox 75 F1.2 z mount... (How the auto focus work with the Nikon Z camera and all the other test that you do please....!!!!)
hi and help! I‘ve just picked one of these cameras up but too many items are greyed out in the menu..And it is only offering me 25 p 100 m and 25p 60m...I have tried the factory reset bit it made no diffeence. I am sure I have missed a trick here but cant work it out. Am going to post my sos to some other posts..
You have any video about comparing internal recording 8 bit 4:2:0 and external 8 bit 4:2:2 from zv-e10? I’m curious if it is any difference after color grading 😊
I don't have a video about it - but my eyes can't tell any difference whatsoever. You might notice it is you are doing a greenscreen - but not most footage
Wow what a great video, i cant lettery see a difference thata so important between those cameras.. i have the zv e10 also.. but banding with slog 3 is realy soft image
sir samyang v-af 24mm T1.9 vs Samyang 24mm 1.8 Compaing video please ( becouse this 24mm length sony A7iv 4k 50p/60p corp mode 36mm . ) 24mm& 35mm. this is my fevotait leanth
When I got my E10 I started learning about profiles, hlg3 and SLog, color grading and so on; then one day I had the idea to use some short videos with different PP, luts and corrections to ask my friends and coworkers with of the samples they liked the most. I was very surprised when, after so many hours learning and practicing, almost all of them told me their favourite was PP off. So now I like to know about the technical stuff in videos like this, but in the end I just do what the people around me say they want: if I use my Sigma 18-50 I use PP off without any color correction (just 10 seconds adding a tiny bit of contrast in post and that's it); and if I use a manual or vintage lens I use PP3 straight from the camera (it has some violet tint and sometimes I correct it slightly). I know it's not technically the best or most accurate, but it's my audience who makes the rules for me.
Hey Mark .. love your work You may have heard of the DJI osmo pocket 3 I think it's coming for our beloved duggy and the likes Would love to see your take on it It has the potential to become the next zv-e10 for your chanel
