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Soul Street--Jimmy Forrest, King Curtis, Oliver Nelson 

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As I said in the note to 'Tin Tin Deo', those who heard Jimmy Forrest in person said the most dreaded position on stage is being another tenor player along side of him. In this cut, standing with jazz stalwarts, not amateurs by any means, guys who are more critically acclaimed, guys who got more studio time, guys you've heard of--from Jimmy's first flourish, you can sense they just want to go home. He continues his solo showing his harmonic complexity, incredible sense of rhythm and groove, the ability to move effortlessly from the beautiful to the honking blues, and the ability to build his solo. King Curtis follows, gets in and gets out as quickly as possible, and then fellow St. Louisan Oliver Nelson takes over, using the Nelson method. Oliver wrote about improvisation, saying that you begin with a two or three note theme, and gradually build with more notes and volume. For years there were alto players in St. Louis who were disciples of Nelson, all the while never having heard Jimmy Forrest, who lived just around the corner. Upon hearing Forrest for the first time, they always asked why they hadn't heard of him before, shaking their heads in awe.

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@harrystathos6002
@harrystathos6002 10 лет назад
This is the BEST SAX. I have ever heard and at 85 years I have many in my years.
@PepperWilliams_songcovers
@PepperWilliams_songcovers 14 лет назад
Three underrated sax players. They're all 'sick' (and that's good:))
@ianhope3203
@ianhope3203 2 года назад
Believe I have this on CD, now have to look for it. 🙄
@johnholloway2445
@johnholloway2445 6 лет назад
jimmys out of sight,thank god for youtube. every thing i need to see and hear is all here.swingin.
@postatility
@postatility 14 лет назад
This entire album is just drenched in SOUL!!!Oliver Nelson is still an unsung jazz hero(as are many others)He's in that category of "what might he be doing today"
@MrFunkanova
@MrFunkanova 14 лет назад
Excellent!!!!!!
@tomtom41
@tomtom41 14 лет назад
Roy Haynes!Grooooovy!!!
@Truelight0
@Truelight0 12 лет назад
@DYNODRUM Amen, Oliver Nelson is one of the best. Specially special rendition of the shadow of your smile, its of of the best version I ever heard...
@sgjazzman
@sgjazzman 7 лет назад
Who are the people, who gave it thumbs down? They have no soul!!!!!
@islamicchronicles5381
@islamicchronicles5381 3 года назад
THANK YOU
@opus4031
@opus4031 5 лет назад
Thanks for identifying the soloists by screen image. In this case, you have three very distinctive styles, but it's a good idea and very useful for the jazz fan who wants to learn more. I'm quoting your intro to this video in my blog entry (Listening to Prestige) on this album.
@gitarwoman2
@gitarwoman2 5 лет назад
Thank you. Love me some Jimmy Forrest and Oliver Nelson, too!
@nilogima
@nilogima 12 лет назад
agree about the shadow, the best for me too.blew my mind
@raefblack7906
@raefblack7906 8 лет назад
Jimmy Forrest!!
@TheFunkyKingston
@TheFunkyKingston 11 лет назад
A groovy soul of jazz!!!
@DYNODRUM
@DYNODRUM 13 лет назад
Don't Fool WITH these Guys for Blues and such.They got Their Own....
@bobbylinning2348
@bobbylinning2348 8 лет назад
Nice groove
@Flutensax
@Flutensax 9 лет назад
Very Cool, Larry. I remember that you were a musician here in Springfield, years ago. Now you're a tremendous artist… I used to do both art and music too. Six years of commercial art and studio art in colleges, 55 years in music performance and about fifteen years in commercial art work. You're a close friend with my buddy, Ed Gehlbach as I recall. He's now studying the heck out of piano.
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 10 лет назад
Do a RU-vid search on Jimmy Forrest and listen. His sound is unmistakable.
@gianca60
@gianca60 4 года назад
I'm little late but I totally agree with your notes about the solos.
@bobbylinning2348
@bobbylinning2348 5 лет назад
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@tomsmith9479
@tomsmith9479 5 лет назад
holy damn cow....
@irateiconoclast
@irateiconoclast 10 лет назад
This Is Soul
@michavandam
@michavandam 3 года назад
It's Jazz.
@irateiconoclast
@irateiconoclast 3 года назад
@@michavandam No contradiction intended. I used "Soul" as a descriptor, NOT to denote a separate genre of music.
@dugsax1
@dugsax1 6 лет назад
1st Forrest,2nd Curtis,3rd Nelson.. King Curtis (1962) "Sounds good kid".
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 10 лет назад
The first solo is Jimmy Forrest.
@michavandam
@michavandam 3 года назад
Yes! So is the one before the second.
@nilogima
@nilogima 11 лет назад
nelson chorus begins a little like in four and six with dolphy..
@bobblues1158
@bobblues1158 5 лет назад
Who is playing in this great rhythm section. They are the backbone of this session-quiet as kept.
@porterhall27
@porterhall27 5 лет назад
Oliver Nelson, King Curtis, Jimmy Forrest - tenor saxophone Gene Casey - piano George Duvivier - bass Roy Haynes - drums
@Flutensax
@Flutensax 9 лет назад
When I was a young player, maybe 20 yrs old, I heard King Curtis and then tried to emulate some of the stuff he was doing on rock and roll records… probably a Dulaney and Bonnie album.
@larryeifert3939
@larryeifert3939 9 лет назад
I played a set with King Curtis one night while I was in Canada. I was the only white guy in an all-black Jamaican Rock-steady band. Some interesting times.
@user-vk8dp6gm7r
@user-vk8dp6gm7r 5 лет назад
I can top that...I can remember a night in Canada playing with cannonball adderley ...we went there somewhere in the arctic circle ostensibly to play a gig but the real reason was that cannonball(we called him cannibal) had made a bet that he could eat a whole roast walrus...he lost the bet not that he couldn't have eaten a whole roast walrus but the problem was that the eskimos ate their walrus raw...not that they preferred raw walrus to cooked...but you see they didn't have ovens large enough to hold a walrus in an igloo or anywhere else for that matter...needless to say we were the only non eskimo musicians in the igloo(it was a very large one)...what I remember best was getting high smoking walrus whiskers from a pipe made from a walrus tusk and digging the aura borealis...yusef lateef who was with the band at that time made a flute from the other tusk and we all had a ball dancing and playing around the north pole...they (the eskimos) called it the north pole blues...ps cannonball claimed he would have eaten the walrus if there had been any horseradish...
@GeneralDAS
@GeneralDAS 13 лет назад
@tonespinner You can make that argument for Nelson as a composer. But as a player, is most certainly unsung.
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 14 лет назад
@tonespinner Where did I say 'unsung?'
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 14 лет назад
@tonespinner My bad. :-)
@damianfragapane3595
@damianfragapane3595 10 лет назад
If so, the liner notes must be wrong, because the first soloist on this track is without a doubt the third soloist on track two Blues for M.F. which the liner notes identify as King Curtis.
@Debukochi
@Debukochi 10 лет назад
@Damian: Wilson's notes are confusing. His reference to "Chronologically" refers to stylistic tendencies in the jazz idiom and not the order of soloists. Trust your ear, which seems good. Hint: Oli sounds like an alto and is always in the left channel. Jimmy is always in the left channel and Curtis, with that magnificent projection, is always in the right channel.
@damianfragapane3595
@damianfragapane3595 10 лет назад
I have this album, and while the liner notes don't cover this tune because it's a bonus track, it sounds to me that King Curtis takes the first solo, then Jimmy Forrest and then Oliver Nelson. That's assuming that the linear notes correctly identified the soloists through the album. That said, the second solo (which, I believe to be Forrest's) is my favourite on this tune.
@michavandam
@michavandam 3 года назад
Solo 1: Jimmy Forrest Solo 2: King Curtis Solo 3: Oliver Nelson
@tonespinner
@tonespinner 14 лет назад
@postatility what do you mean "unsung" man? "The Blues and the Abstract Truth" is a classic. In the collection of most every jazz aficcionado. Many should be so lucky.
@tonespinner
@tonespinner 14 лет назад
@NAFTALI2 'twasn't you, it was postatility. At least we all enjoy this music and this great tradition (jazz)
@archimboldic.4318
@archimboldic.4318 9 лет назад
so whats the order of the solos?, to me jimmy forrest is the 1st and then king curtis
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 9 лет назад
Archimboldi C. Correct.
@caponsacchi
@caponsacchi 9 лет назад
Archimboldi C. I'll look into it, but to my ears the first soloist is King Curtis. He had extremely fast and crisp articulations and could simply eat up changes with streams of notes--executing like a champion bebopper. Jimmy is closer to the great tenors of the swing era--Hawk and Ben. He loves to take a single note and bend it, play alternate fingerings, etc. For him, it's more about "how" a note is played than the number of notes played. When I caught Basie in the '70s (without Lockjaw), Forest and Al Grey were the 2 outstanding soloists in the band. Of course, about the 3rd soloist there can be no doubt. Oliver loved to push the changes, never completely outside--like Eric Dolphy (with whom he made 3 albums)--but enough to make him the master of tension and release. (The best example on this album, as I recall from the LP, is "Perdido," which is one of his most daring and memorable solos on record.)
@NAFTALI2
@NAFTALI2 9 лет назад
caponsacchi -- Nope. Forrest, Curtis, Nelson.
@WestcoastTony49
@WestcoastTony49 8 лет назад
+caponsacchi I saw Basie's band at Carnegie Hall in the 70s, and for me the guys who stood out were also Al Grey and Jimmy Forrest! (Unfortunately the Count himself was ill that night. Nat Pierce, no slouch himself, took his place.) Grey's enormous smile lit up the hall all the way back to our balcony seats, even when he was just sitting in the section. And no question that Oliver was always recognizable.
@Debukochi
@Debukochi 8 лет назад
+Archimboldi C. I didn't want to give it away, but see NAFTALI2 for the correct order. If you get the CD and listen to it just twice, you'll always be able to recognize them.
@islamicchronicles5381
@islamicchronicles5381 6 лет назад
THANK YOU
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