South Africa: Ramaphosa & ANC Hunt For Coalition Partners; Advantage Zuma? | Firstpost Africa 

Black and white united will be best .

We Bless God that ANC has been voted out of majority

Happy with anc and da coalition

This country needs one President and kings that is all . SouthAfricans can choose which President they would like to have for their country.not for the party.

JEWISH ANC Seems like most people don't understand the history of the ANC which I've written in detail in this group. But I'll take it as my responsibility to teach fellow Africans about their history until they understand. The Union of South Africa was in 1910 and the ANC was formed 2 years later in 1912. What was it formed for? There was no racist opressive laws. Afrikaners were not in power. South Africa was ruled by England. So what was the purpose of the ANC? I explained in why post that from inception, the ANC was a party of Amazemtiti (exempted blacks - those blacks who were regarded by England as above blacks in general but below whites). The ANC was a party to represent Amazemtiti as there was a party to represent the English and liberal Afrikaners, that party is the DA today and there was a party representing Afrikaners. Poor blacks in general weren't represent and there was no interest to represent them. The ANC remained in this class segregational form until the emergence of Anton Lembede in the 1930s among the ANC youth ranks. Lembede together with his colleagues in the Youth League like Robert Sobukwe demanded that the ANC represent all black people. They eventually forced the ANC to adopt the pro-Africanist Program of Action in 1949. That was one year after the verkramptes took over power from the mainly English liberals. The Afrikaner verkramptes pushed hard for liberation from England on 31 May 1961. It's important to note the the Natives Land Act of 1913, one year after the formation of the ANC, was promulgated and enforced by the British. Afrikaners were not in power that time. But ANC leaders were bought houses in posh suburbs in England by the same people who promulgated and enforced the Natives Land Act of 1913 that made black people landless up to today. What does that tell you? The problem started whe the Afrikaner verkramptes wanted to expropriate English business without compensation. That's when English Jews took over the ANC to fight their cause against the Afrikaner verkramptes. Anton Lembede had to be killed for the plan to succeed. The ANC of 1912 died with Anton Lembede. A new ANC was then formed by the Jewish English. The founders of the new ANC (Jewish ANC which is in power now) are Lionel Bernstein, Bobby Hepple, Dennis Goldberg, Arthur Goldreich, Hazel Goldreich and James Kantor. Their first recruited fronts were Nelson Mandela, Walter Sisulu, Govan Mbeki, Raymond Mhlaba and Ahmed Kathrada. The Jewish ANC founders mandated Lionel Bernstein and Bunny Bunting to write the pro-West Freedom Charter which will overrule and erase the pro-Africanist Program of Action of 1949. The likes of Robert Sobukwe, Zephania Mothopeng etc left the ANC to form the PAC after realizing that this no more the ANC they hijacked from representing only Amazemtiti and made it to represent all Africans. Their Program of Action was thrown under the carpet by the Mandela's, Sisulus etc. Does it now make sense why they were bought houses in posh suburbs in England? While on the Jewish ANC, let's have a brief view on the DA. Tony Leon is Jewish, Helen Suzman was Jewish, Helen Zille is Jewish just like Jewish Soviet KGB Colonel Joe Slovo and his wife who splicited funds for the ANC from the Soviet Union. So, what surprises you when a Jewish ANC wants to form a coalition with a Jewish DA? It's birds of the same feather. The ANC merged with the National Party to form this party that is ruling as we speak and you kept on voting for it. What is wrong when they go into a coalition and finally merge with the DA? Fast forward to Now ... The Democratic Alliance (DA) is a party that has consistently shown its racist tendencies and lack of genuine agenda for the people of color in South Africa. Consequently, the idea of forming a coalition between the DA and the African National Congress (ANC) is utterly unacceptable. Since the DA assumed official governance in Cape Town, there has been a resurgence of apartheid-like practices directed at people of color. This is a situation we cannot afford to see replicated on a national level. The DA systematically undermines the accomplishments of people of color while excessively praising anything done by white individuals, even when those actions are nonsensical or counterproductive. During elections, the DA engaged in fraudulent activities, manipulating results by switching off vote-counting machines, allegedly with the assistance of CIA agents from the USA. This was facilitated by the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC), an institution that was purportedly independent but has been revealed to be influenced by the DA’s funders, who also support President Cyril Ramaphosa. President Ramaphosa, influenced by these funders, has been accused of planning to sell state control to the DA. It is alleged that votes were bought through secret meetings, involving substantial sums of money. The DA’s strategy extended to attempting to bribe other top leaders of the ANC, aiming to secure power nationally and act without any checks. The South African populace has a clear understanding of the DA’s true nature, which is why they would never support the party voluntarily. The DA’s methods of inflating their support included buying votes from people in the streets and infiltrating rallies of other parties to sway individuals. Their inflated presence in the political landscape does not reflect genuine support but rather manipulation and deceit. The DA’s policies included opening South African borders to undermine the ruling party, allowing uncontrolled immigration which stunted national growth. They exploited President Ramaphosa for their agenda, knowing they could discard him once he was no longer useful. Conversely, they attempted to coerce former President Jacob Zuma, but he steadfastly refused to betray his principles and his people. Jacob Zuma’s tenure as president saw significant advancements for South Africa. The economy thrived, with businesses flourishing, and substantial infrastructure development including courts, prisons, hospitals, police stations, universities, clinics, bridges, and roads. The successful hosting of the 2010 FIFA World Cup and the resultant infrastructure was a testament to his leadership. Under his presidency, the black middle class expanded, and free education from primary to university level became a reality for many. Despite these achievements, Zuma was targeted by the DA and its allies, who owned major businesses, media outlets, and controlled significant economic resources. They launched a smear campaign against him, fabricating charges and using state apparatus to harass him and other black businesspeople. The narrative of state capture by the Gupta family was one such manufactured controversy, ignoring the historical presence and contributions of the Gupta family to South Africa’s economy. Zuma’s vision for South Africa included joining BRICS and advocating for a BRICS bank and a nuclear plant to meet the country's growing energy needs. These initiatives were misrepresented and opposed by the DA and their business allies who felt threatened by the empowerment of black South Africans and the shift away from Western economic dependence. Under Ramaphosa’s presidency, policies that favored DA’s interests led to economic hardships. There were increased utility prices, inflated food costs, and a decline in job opportunities. Many South Africans found themselves in severe financial distress, unable to afford basic necessities or access education. Given these challenges, Jacob Zuma’s efforts to protect South African sovereignty and promote inclusive growth stand in stark contrast to the actions of the DA and Ramaphosa. To address these systemic issues and offer a viable alternative, Zuma went on to establish the UMkhonto We Sizwe Party (MK). This new party aims to rectify the injustices and foster a fair, prosperous, and self-reliant South Africa for all its citizens.

After 30 years of BEE, it is time for policy in South Africa to become non racist already!! Jobs should be awarded to the best qualified person for it, not because they are black or white. Or any other colour.

Let it be equal for all nations after all we all have contributed to be a better south Africa for all and equal wealth distribution.

This land is dying from corruption and she wants to have Zuma back in Power😂😂😂😂😂. Idiocracy

Please please not Zuma he is corrupt and a thief and all the others the same as Zuma all off them has destroy this country

Iam from gambia iwill happy to see Da to join ANC

ANC plus DA is the Common Sense way to go! May God speak to the mind of Cyril Ramaphosa who seems to be a Believer! At the end of the day we are all the same in the eyes of our Creator regardless of race, colour or creed..Galatians 3:28; Genesis 1:26, 27

Da and ANC coalition makes sense. If south africans want sensible policy formulation

We voted ANC out dont put them back again pls RESPECT our decision pls

Mk is the biggest winner here

As we know democracy means Majority rule then ANC and DA must form government 😊

Look at the track records. Who supports chaos and corruption? Who supports growth? May God protect our beautiful country.

South Africans and Serie Leone doing Africa proud with their conduct of elections.. not that Zoo called Nigeria

Don't allow the DA to form an alliance with ANC please Rapaphosa.

Please DA is a better option for coalition

ANC should just go for Minority Government.

Glad to see my good friend Khanyisile Magubane. From those classes at Northwestern University. Proud of you fellow leader.

We are the Rainbow nation,,everyone needs to be represented Let the bygones be bygones.May God gives ANC wisdom

Ramaphosa you took ISRAEL to court ...you are reaping it now

GOOD BYE SA the time is over R.I.P SA 😢

ANC and DA work together please

I support Gayton we need a strong person like him to run our home affairs.

The ANC works for the people, they must put their ego's aside, stop finger pointing, govern with WISDOM, work with the DA as diversity is necessary in order to take this country forward!

How Come the DA have 70 % of South Africa LANDS ? How Come the GERMANS have 75 %of Namibia LANDS Must Revisit These Plans Restore All Lands to the Original Peoples.

Ramaphosa and the ANC should approach the DA{Democratic Alliance} to form a coalition government.

I can't decide if MK are high on something....of if I am???? How the F do people fall for this shite? It's absolutely beyond me. Hearing Zumba talk about "governance" and "corruption" is like hearing turkeys campaign for Thanksgiving!! Honestly, I'm at the point where I don't even feel sorry for people who suffer anymore...you get what you vote for.............deal with it.

Get da

Let's give someone a chance. Not Ramaphosa.

Love your show! Sorry I missed it live

No to DA

I'm very ashamed of SA we were last country to get freedom and ANC was the custody of democracy and they let it go easy like that look Zanu ,Flerimo and other countries are still in charge even though most are complaining but they are educated they can work all over the world they had good quality education but here at umzansi it's bad my God give us good President and not Da because they are John rupert and others securities guiding the actions of ANC and report to them

The best coalition is ANC & DA, all races matter & it's the best way to rescue the economy of SA.

We the people need to unite .....

ANC and Da..can form a good gvt

The best option is to go into coalition with DA

ANC and DAvpls

Flowing for who disadvantaged are the last to benefit from DA.

I remember : NEVER NEVER again will we TRUST the muzungu again

Khanyi is certainly only looking at minor differences between the ANC and the DA. The DA has already stated that unemployment, education, health and service delivery are the major tenets of their policies and this will be carried through in the coalition. Not the issues such as BEE. And it is totally incorrect to say they are not in favour of transformative laws. Remember more than 50% of the support of the DA is from previously disadvantaged communities. I would discount Khanyi's opinions.

Thumbs up Gayton Mackenzi.

Zuma Muyibi Voleur Zuma President South Africa ! Zuma killing Pleople's Country .

RAMAPHOSA NEEDS TO RESIGN BEFORE DONATING THE STRUGGLE OF FORMER ANC LEADERS TO DA HE HAD NEVER WORKED HARD FOR. RAMA DIDN'T GO TO EXILE AND JAILED.

The ANC must get Rid of Corruption and Corrupt Officials Men and Women No Matter Positions Held Must Get Rid of Corruption Now to be Prosperous.

As far as the Policies of DA are concerned, Zuma and Malema should try to compromise with the ANC and form a coalition.

DA IS THE SOLUTIONS 😂

Anc and small blackparties are the best coallition gvt

I would like all the "black" parties to put all there differences and pride aside and to have fruitful negotiations for the best of the citizens of the country the same people that voted for them we are matured enough as a country to do it ❤

What has BEE done in our black communities? Please show me

There would be no coalition here more than 18 parties have many questions to IEC need to be answered

I dont support coalition between ANC and EFF because is a same rotten apple there will be no difference in SA instead things will be worse than before , ANC must work with DA stop this racism , I think next time people have to choose the leader public or online this voting thing does not help us.

South Africa is over

coalitiion govrernment is the best thing that the new SouthAfrica can do .

White reporter didn't like when the black lady explained what appointing DA would do to south africa's policies, the whole step back in black empowering policies in favour of traditional white enforced policies ...😂😂😂😂 she was left for words 😅😅😅😅 and the anger in her white face showed throughout from that point on 😂 #SHAME

Please contor creame we ar nt safe on the Rode also nt safe to home eastern cape umthata

DA with ANC but without Ramaphosa

ANC, EFF AND MK NEED TO NEGOTIATE!

Malema for president 🙌 a leader on a mission, not puppets on selfish benefits.

What is it with Malema and a scarf now!

Under leadership of Ramaphosa everything are so bad nothing right first time ANC lose majority Ramaphosa must step down no way forward at the end now

Soccer geirAaaa😊

I believe the EFF should be given a chance to be part of the new government 👊🏿❤🏋️‍♀️🌹🤴🏿🕺🏿🍷👏🏿🥳🏃🏿‍♂️🤗💪🏿

Ok good people of South Africa can you teach me about economy i'm trying to understand why our country is poor because this country have a lot of minerals, i always hear that Arabian's countries are rich because they have oil then i ask myself if oil is working for them why our minerals are not making this country rich or our minerals are not good? Why the Rand is weaker than the US dollar ,what mk a currency strong? Any one can teach me how is this things work i want to understand fellow South Africans.

If I can tell anc to chose I would do thet just go to da and work with them amen

Soccer geirAaaa😊😊

SO WHY DID BLACKS VOTED FOR DA INSTEAD EFF??????

We must bear in mind that mk is not an option at all! No! DA is the best option OR we have to settle for the minority government in order for there to be stability and peace!

1.Did BEE work? 2.Does Zuma have what it takes to move SA forward??? In terms of development!!! 3.After 30yrs of ANC did SA improve or degraded? I am giving SA the second chance to vote here again, and say who they think the coalition should consist of.

How and why do we find ourselves constantly in a position of having to choose between the lesser of two evils. Why!

I think that the MK party leader clearly stated at his press conference that his party will challenge everything in courts of law. At no state did i hear him talking about violence". As for the country being turned upside down, i think the performance of the MK party election result has already turned everything upside down. Reason being is that the ruling party finds itself between a rock and a hard place as it doesn't know with which party to form a government with". This means to me that the upside down part is the present reality, which could have been what the MK party meant. When former president Zuma said they mustn't be provoked it appears that he meant that the election results must be transparent to everyone otherwise the court processes would be embarked upon by his party". Now, the so called political analysts seem to be off the mark when they say that the MK party might not do very well in a re vote, something which could be the contrary as the MK party may go beyond that 50 percent mark. They seem to be basing their narratives on what happened when Mr Zuma was incarcerated, i mean the unrest that occurred after his 15 month imprisonment. Well, i still need to be enlightened as to whether the MK party is associated with that unrest. It seems to me that the instigators of that unrest have appeared in courts of law and that they aren't linked to the current election result. Now, the state security apparatuses say the MK party will be dealt with by the full might of the law should there be any unrest, which may mean that they could have analysed things in their owwn ways". But one thing clear is that former president Zuma is very much loved in certain important areas of the country, and that more people may vote for him in the future.

Anc and DA must join and Chuck criminal Zuma and criminal ace in jail

Maibuye AZANIA😮

But not in control just gatekeepers.

just hearing this makes me want to adopt the girl presenting this.

Please not Zuma

Better Rhamaposha works with Zuma in a coalition

ANC best option is the DA to bring the country to normality. Investment will start flowing into the country which would mean more jobs. Also greater benefits for the poor. Better housing, schools and health.

We never know what happens behind close doors???

Go Africa and decide for your country side with Russia and stay safe and feel that you are in control.

No DA please

Coalition will never Happen,

Its gonna be tough coallition

😂😂😂As I predicted before election that cards are being played very well politics can kill you 😂😂😂

Coalition choice going into government unity is pivotal, only to steer SA's to its democratic glory. Parties going in ,must be real leaders, not chaotic characters ,for the country's renewal and restoration.

Coalition for federalism

Fikile Mbalula is very arrogant

What goes around comes around

Black and white combination for such a time as this😊

Not Zuma guys, you was the guputas again

Shame poor people are suffering

Let ANC-DA begin, the outright black majority rule benefits elected few black tenderpreneurs and exercise tirany of arrogant deaf old bullies

Who is not corrupt?

Did you say political parties in Africa?? The ignorance I hear is too much

ANC+MKP+EFF =🎉🎉🎉

She said not having BEE is dangerous hahahaha

You watch MK. I believe that they will join the ANC

Isn't it absurd calling Indian parties "Asian political parties". FFP