How about "OpenPPG Spirit"? I think it would show the (more or less) essentials-only nature, and "cleanly-ness" of electric, while also being ambiguous enough for marketing, and you designs/logos could be something cold-blue, maybe either a lightning bolt/ghost?
We are all rooting for you. Reliability and cost are super important and it's great that you are focused on those things. That's the concept that made Japanese cars blow up the auto industry and why they are still so dominant. Stick to your guns.... it's the right way to break into a market that has fiercely loyal consumers. Once you meet your goal of reliability and affordability, you can easily grab a lion's share of the market. Best of luck and thank you.
I've never wanted a project to be successful more than this, that's so great your shooting for great price and reliability those are the two main issues I see with the gas motors
It seems batteries are easily replaceable so you can always land and switch and as battery technology improves (which it is, just look at Tesla, Toyota, and Dr. Goodenough's team research) that you could just "upgrade" the battery. Motor seems powerful enough with thrust and 25kw max (over 30HP). Rather deal with shorter flight time (for a few years) than maintenance and engine rebuild etc. Also nothing better than gliding silently (see the one video review of the quad version). Problem with more propeller/blades is noise but it doesn't need torque compensation. Would like to know the details on torque compensation, fixed with adjustment?
@@athienit unfortunately it's not that easy. In Germany for example if you would get such a setup approved by our FAA , the batteries need to go through a costly certification process. If I remember correctly it's > 30k € and more importantly a lot of time. Given the small amount of motors sold that's nearly impossible to do this every once in a while. 😕
This looks amazing! If I didn't just buy my paramotor last year I would be looking at this unit. Keep it going and it will 100% be my next paramotor. Thank you for doing the research, spending the time and money, and ultimately, advancing the sport!
Thank for all your hard work in designing the electric pramotor, been waiting the single elcetric motor to come out. Can't wait to get one and test it out. Fly high. Robert,.
This one is THE youtube aviation channel. The future of sport aviation . Once we can attach safely , easily, one of these systems to a super light nano trike that´s it... the world will change. Everybody will be able to go flying.
wow! 200lb of thrust, and you got like 45 minutes of flight time! Electric is the future for sure! Almost regretting getting my new Moster and Kangook frame now, lol.
Amazing work! This is going to change the whole landscape of the sport! (I thing the SP140 is a wonderful name, but just for fun here are some random ideas) OpenPPG Bumblebee OpenPPG Daedalus OpenPPG Cumulus OpenPPG Halo (because the cage is a ring... get it ;) OpenPPG Tracker OpenPPG Albatross OpenPPG 200 Thanks again for all the hard work, time and care you are putting into this!
So glad to hear you are moving forward with the release. Many companies have been affected by this crisis and I am happy to know you guys are still standing strong. As for a name, how about Thunderbolt?
I’m just thinking of getting a new paramotor, I’m now going to hold off until this is on the market, well done, wish you all success. For the name what about skybolt, skyjolt, skyspark, skywhisper (thinking on the lines of mixing the electric with flying)
OK.... I am that 400-500lb guy you were talking about. I want to get into paramotoring, and specifically I want to build a DIY e-ppg trike/quad. I am a Soliworks design engineer and have my own CnC fabrication shop. I came here because of your folding quad prop open source ppg I found. I will be getting in your website, forum and facebook, to start picking your brain very soon.
Once battery tech gets better in a few years this will be a winner. Especially as so many people have no skills with mechanics to attempt simple maintenance on a simple 2 stroke engine.
Is there anything that can be done to improve the battery? I have a friend who has flown both the gas and electric. He said flying time with the electric engine is less than an hour......so he basically stays with the gas engine which he has flown for 3 hours.
Why don't you just make an electric motor, adapter, and adapter to move the balance point to swap the motor on a popular gas model? Then we could just buy one unit to do both gas and electric?
Does the battery pack come with a warranty? What if the battery pack "drops a cell", can you replace individual cells? How many watt hours is the battery pack and voltage? How many volts does the motor require at a minimum and maximum?
PD White, can you say if you will go for a official certification for France or Germany f.e. .... folks here are really interested in your design.... i would order one if certified for Europe.... Thank you for your feedback Rg Bernd
Are the batteries temperature sensitive? Can you fly them in 30F and 115F without damaging the cells? If you fly them in low temps does it cut down the flight times?
Can you do a full disembly? I am interested in buying one but I am not sure if the repairablility would be good. If the parts are hard to find then it's paper weight. Gas at least you can buy the parts.
I really need to be able to travel 45 km, mostly over water (coast guard is super close and my water escape training is pretty good ;), and so I'm very interested in the reliability of electric... if I were to do that on a paramotor on the Dominator wing (safety and speed 50+km), could I make the distance reliably given say even a 15km p/hr head wind? Could you supply a bigger battery so I can get that crucial 75 minutes should problems arise? I just want to run an efficient, straight line with weight shift and low torque maneuvering.
A couple of thoughts. What's the estimated flight time for a given rider (maybe average weight)? Maybe give an estimated range? Secondly, is it possible to engineer the motor to allow for additional batteries? My thought here is that, in order to keep the weight down you may only want one battery but larger individuals who can handle the additional weight of a second (or third) battery would like to have the option of purchasing extra batteries that can be used to prolong a flight. While it's nice to have the capability to swap batteries on the ground, having that extra flight time is probably what's most important to potential customers. Not sure where the name SP-140 came from but it's ok. I'm sure you could find something better but you gave it that name for a reason... don't second guess yourself.
Forgot to say but I think it's important. For me, the magic number for flight time is 90 minutes. When that happens, this product becomes relevant for my shopping consideration!
I'm a n00b on this stuff, but are the electric models significantly quieter than the gas-powered ones? What's the flight-time on an electric? What kind of horsepower does it have?
Looking forward to final specs. 200lbs thrust is nice for a tandem. Will we be able to purchase the motor and controller separately and use our own batteries? Also looking forward to info on the hybrid, friend might be getting a tandem and was thinking the hybrid might be good. Cheers
Hybrid? What advantage would adding an ICE and fuel system add to this? Can the ICE be small and light enough yet still provided enough to sustain level flight and charge the battery?
I wonder: if you optimized everything for the smallest, lightest and most silent as possible rotor that just barely creates enough thrust to make sure you could fly "forever", given enough battery, then: HOW light and HOW silent could that whole system become?
In future versions, can the battery pack be made to be replaceable. That way you don't need to charge the whole paramotor. just charge the battery, exhaust it. land. change batteries, back in the air.
The name needs to differentiate that it is an electric paramotor. As such it should be something that relates to electricity in some way... and Tesla is already taken. So how about... - Lightning - Bolt - Flash - Arc - Spark - Power - PowerUp - Energy - Synergy - Current - Flow - Dwell - Wired - Charge - Charger - Charged Or emphasize a positive quality like convenience, lower noise level, instant restart. - EZP (easy power/ paramotor) - Whisper - Control - Precision Or emphasize that it's the new and coming thing. - Ascend - Next - Excel Personally I like several for different reasons. Arc, because it's short and clean and could be done in all caps as ARC. Charger, because it is evocative of both electricity and a strong powerful horse. Whisper, because an electric paramotor is quieter and power off is completely silent! And finally, Ascend, because going up is the whole reason we fly. Which ones do you like? Also, it's driving me nuts trying to figure out what frame you are using in the newest video. Similar to an Air Conception in design but not a match. What is it?
Great informative video. I can't wait until we are all flying electric paramotors. I wont miss gas engines. I want to fly, not be a backyard grease monkey. We all are waiting for that perfect battery. It will come, and I really think it is almost here. Thanks for your hard work and determination to bring future technology into the sport. One day there will be piles of two stroke motors in scrap heaps that we can fly over and laugh about how unreliable, and complicated they were. Hawauyaa
@PDWhite I can't wait to buy this! I'm looking to purchase it this year or January of next year. I've been waiting for the SP140 for about two years! It's nice to know that I can finally pre order it now. I sent you a email, I just wanted to ask more questions before I buy. Name recommendation: SPEagle, Eagle-140, SP240, Flight-140.
Considering flight time is 1 hour, under ideas conditions, and that you probably want to leave at least 10% reserve, not really. Given the added weight and wind resistance/drag due to trike and larger wing it makes it impractical for flying more than 20 minutes. I'm excited to start seeing some reviews soon.
I'm with you on this Electric paramotor. I don't yet fly, but I'm hoping to learn this summer. I wish the run time could get to be closer to 90 minuets, but for older people like myself, the lighter weight would be a great improvement for us. So I'm wondering where you're at with this now?
I hope this is the future, because I believe electric will be so much safer (no more people ground starting because they struggle doing it on their backs), not to mention the ease of use. How about Volt 140 or AmpeRage 140?
I'm happy to hear the audio early on, I have my Electric Paramotor nearly built. It's interesting to see and hear the results. What are you using for your throttle?
CURIOUS about your ELECTRIC paramotor, but the challenge I've ALWAYS faced - even when learning to HANG GLIDE here in the MIDWEST... ... is that I'm a BIGGER guy: 6'-1" 245 lbs. WHY is it SO hard to find parasail gear BIG enough for to fit MY size??? Mark in North Aurora IL
Pretty much all paramotor wing manufacture make a wing that will fit you well. The make wings that can take 2 250lbs people. Definitely a lot of gear out there in the paramotor world to choose from
@@1Grandoptimist Oh, I see. The Flat Top is a paramotor made by "Flat Top Paramotors". I personally like their paramotors and would recommend them, but not everyone agrees. I also like their training and would recommend that also, but once again not everyone shares the same opinion. My biggest advise is to always keep safety the number one priority when choosing your paramotor and see which instructors are the most capable at piloting a paramotor and which training schools have the best students coming out of them.
What I see is a current problem with rechargeable devices which need larger batteries is the cost to replace the battery. Example is I bought an electric line trimmer 56V 2.5 AH system. I didn't use it much left it mostly on the charger maybe every 2-3 weeks. The line trimmer including the battery and charger was $200. After 2 1/2 years of use the battery started to fail I assumed not a cheap item but turned out a replacement battery is $150 just $50 short of a complete new system. This is lot like the Tesla the battery is warrantied for 10 years the expectation is to buy a new car because the cost of the batteries are too much to replace them.
Tesla batteries are warranted 8 years 150k miles in model S&X and 100k on model 3 and that's a guarantee they won't go below 70% state of charge. They still work, just fewer miles. Elon said about $7-8k to refurbish if you want. The battery should last 300-500k miles unless it develops a fault but newer batteries should last 1 million miles or more! - it looks like batteries like to be used and not left which you may find with devices like a trimmer, it also depends on the chemistry used which depends on power output needed ver cost.
What would totally seal the deal is if I could easily take the battery and use it on my ebike, and swap between ebike and paramotor. That would be game over. Or if you could take part of the Tesla battery out of the car and put that in the paramotor, etc..... The future awaits
I really hope my next motor will be this one (or another electric for that matter). When you talk about good thrust, that put a smile on my face as my nitro 200 is more or less the lowest i can go to have halfway decent climb ^^
Awesome product would love to be able to learn to fly! the name Evolve would be cool i think, Emmersive. vehicle. observation. lamination. vivus. electrification.
Do you have a proper website ? This is like the only RU-vid channel I care about. I hope you have older pilots interested in your project, meaning trikes a must. Go Electric--- Go Vegan
I would like to see an electric paramotor trike for us older people which may also help to increase the range with a larger battery that may be built-in as part of the frame?
Even if you just consider it as a marketing expense, do something like what tucker gott does... simple business man. Come on, drive traffic to your website bro
What if the fuel catches the engine on fire? - Yes batteries do catch fire sometimes but nowhere as much as ICE engine vehicles, they just get publicised more!
Please send link? To a motor that can continually output 15kw of power that is 10x less expensive than say a $2000 ice motor that are used on nearly every paramotor frame. So need to be $200 or less to meet the 10x figure you stated.
