Space Engineers - Designing Large Ships and a Tour of my Large Ships. 

LOL thanks mate, loved this comment :)

Same dude😂

I remade my ship that i made from the space pod but now i just made a new one that actualy worked

🤣😂👌 love it!

The same. 🤣

and cheap to build

Yeah funny thing is, I never wanted it to be a warship lol, I learnt alot from that ship. The Atlas is now my cargo ship of choice :). The Manticore worked OK as it has a large cargo container and can hold 1M kg of cargo on the alien planet but it definitely wasn't optimised like you said lol

On creative mod that's understandable, bit most people on survival usually have a single "mothership" for doing everything.

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Not going to lie, I have not played Halo before, but I'll take the credit anyway 🤣😜

Yeah it's quite funny when you think about it hehe.

we dont need liquid water ... altho it would be cool to have underwater bases. space engineers 2 maybe

Like this? :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mCxl463aZqI.html

Thanks mate, I really appreciate it 😁👌👌

Yeah thats a very good idea :) I really should go back to a few of my blueprints and change them up since they added that block :)

I usually replace them with O2/H2 gennys. Nobody likes waiting for H2 tanks to fill, so if you can cram those into many places where conveyors would go, it makes rapid refueling possible. Eats a lot of power, though, so O2/H2 gennys should be grouped and turned off when not refueling. You should have AT LEAST 2 O2/H2 gennys per large H2 tank. I'd actually recommend 4 per tank.

@@Gottaculat yeah i do that too

But if you have a hydrogen tank or o2/H2 hen you can’t bring items through the conveyer.

@@awesomepopsicle8011 yes you can I pull items through my hydrogen tanks all the time

That's awesome man, I'm really glad the videos are helping you out!! 😎👌 Thanks for the praise on the Pilgrim too, she is a really good little ship 😊

Its to remind them of the harsh realities of space, and discourage sleeping on the job 😆. Only kidding lol.

Thanks mate, really appreciate it 😎👌

Yeah I have mentioned this somewhere else in one of my videos, pretty sure it was the How to Build a Large Ship Series lol. But you are correct, it does slow the game heaps!! I wish they made vanilla conveyors that were the shape of a block and were air tight, that would be awesome 👌😁

@@TheGarageGamer86 or if they preloaded the conections rather than having each item establish it's route when put in. There is no reason the game should have to figgure it out on the spot.

@@TheGarageGamer86 it is your lucky day

Thanks mate 😎👌

“Joyride”

@@Nishye501 he crashed it

Thanks man 😎👌. I mean you can put the bridge wherever I guess, the nose makes sense if you have the bridge on the bottom portion of the ship at the front for ships that land on planets a lot 😊. It's always a good idea I think to have a secondary bridge somewhere else in the ship though in-case the main bridge is destroyed, and in that case you can put the bridge anywhere really 😊

Thanks mate :) appreciate the kind words :)

Thanks mate, really appreciate it :). In the Manticore? Yeah basically there are 4 gravity generators in the ship, the two at the front effect either side of the ship, and the ones at the back do the same for the back half, CIC and Bridge. I done it this way so that the gravity field would not extend beyond the walls of the ship, so if you were flying another ship near it, it would not be effected by its gravity generators.

Thanks mate 😎👌

Thanks so much mate, really appreciate it and glad you enjoyed the content!!! 😎😁

Thanks mate 😁

There are a few people who have done RU-vid video's on all of that type of stuff, with these ships I designed the outside first, put in the engines and tanks and then done all the plumbing from that point, some people do it the other way around though... 😎

Yeah that's it!! :) I'm a bit of a car nut in real life so thought id chuck it in a few designs :)

Thanks so much dude! Really appreciate the kind words! 😁👌. I have a video coming up on building a ship from the ground up so stay tuned for that 😎. Hopefully help people out with design of ships a bit 😉

@@TheGarageGamer86 looking foward to it!

@@kingbrit4583 All done mate, you can check out the video here , hope you enjoy it!! 😎 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bgW5Th0NR8k.html

@@TheGarageGamer86 brilliant, gonna watch it now!

It's a great feeling when you build something and it's as useful as you envisioned!! 😁👌

Hahaha yeah in my latest series I used something a lot simpler based on the space starter ship haha

That sounds awesome :). I always wanted to make a hanger on the moon big enough to fit the Atlas, with a platform on pistons that raises the whole ship, and a sliding door on top, but I'm not sure if the pistons will be able to hold that much weight lol.

@@TheGarageGamer86 I’m planning on publishing the blueprint to my hangar on the workshop soon, it’s not complete yet mind, but it’s finally at a stage where I’m happy for an initial release. I can drop the link in here for you if you like?

By all means mate 😁 sounds good 👌

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2294200294

Wow dude! That hanger is insanely massive 😳😲👌. Thankyou so much for the shout out mate, really appreciate it 😁.

Yeah spaced armor is great for defense as it spaces out the explosions from other blocks, I think there would be a bit of a trade off when you encounter gatling turrets though. Decoys are a great way to divert fire away from critical areas too, im not sure if you can bury them behind other blocks, if you can you could bury them in a cube of heavy armor 🤣. Ive seen people use decoys like chaf or flares so they jettison a whole bunch of them around the ship, or launch them on rockets. Most of my experience is in survival if im being honest, my ships do well against NPC's but im not sure about PVP lol.

@@TheGarageGamer86 I only really play single player anyway so that's fine by me. And yes actually from what I've seen decoys do seem to work when positioned behind other blocks. Turrets seem to target functional blocks on an enemy grid and do not care what is in the way, including armor, and from what I can gather their targeting logic considers decoys to be a top priority functional block. Maybe a good design technique to improve survivability would be to design protrusions to the ship using thin armor spokes in several areas (several spokes just in case one or more get blown off so the whole component doesn't just float away), then creating thin skirts using light armor or catwalk pieces attached to those spokes, and then encasing decoys with a heavy armor shell possibly one or two blocks thick in strategic locations, preferably ones with as few possible intersecting vectors from enemy projectiles to the rest of the ship as possible. I might try a design like that.

Thanks mate :). I always start with the outer hull first and then build the interior :)

Outer hull is good if you're going for a certain look. I find you can make some pretty neat stuff if you start with the key systems you know you'll need, and build around those systems. It really all depends what you want the ship to do. If it's a transport/carrier, build your desired hanger first. A war ship, the hull, thruster, and weapon arrangement are a good start. A jump ship, start with jump drives and batteries. A cargo ship, start with cargo containers and your conveyor system. I think you get the idea. Mostly, find what works for you. Another interesting method is the salvager approach, where you graft derelict ships together, creating a mega Frankenstein-like ship. And I don't mean grafting intact ships, but heavily damaged ones, even with 50% or more of the ship missing. It'll give a unique yet familiar form, and you can of course add to it to smooth out the transitions, repaint it, and make it a truly one-of-a-kind monster. I actually used this approach in the "Learning to Survive" scenario in order to build a powerful ship with the limited resources made available in that scenario. Of course, such ships are rarely pretty, but they do fit the scavenger look, which some people like.

Thanks mate 😎👌

Thanks mate, really appreciate it 😁👌

I believe there is already a script that facilitates a similar function, although it does require you to open the door in the first place rather than it being activated by a sensor., check it out here -😎👌 - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=416932930

@@TheGarageGamer86 I remember someone using this code to keep their base tidy but I didn't know about the airlock function. I've gott to try it and see how it works. So far I can't seem to find in the documentation how I'm supposed to label the air vent which is concerning lol. It seems from what I can gather is it locks one side of the airlock to prevent a full vent but it doesn't handle controlled depressurization which is a big problem. Maybe one day I'll roll on by to share the results!

I usually build the outside first and then the internals after that 😁. When I made the Atlas I made sure to make the hull at least 6 blocks tall so that I could fit "two tall" rows of hydrogen tanks inside 😁.

Thanks so much man, Oh you'd be surprised, I think I built it over about a week after work, so maybe like 50-60 hours 😁. I have almost hit 2,000 hours in the game so far, but many people out there have hit 5,000 hours lol.

I usually start by doing the outer shell, and then once I have done that I try to fit everything inside 😁. I built an entire ship on camera, and you can check that out here ru-vid.com/group/PLrdtrYa0Sdy8z0CSpoguct7HSOO3zm2s9

funny you pointed that video out youtube recommended I think that very same video and I'm already about 20 minutes into it. Thanks for getting back to me. After working more on my build and now getting into your video I'm seeing the logic in doing the shell first, there is pretty much enough room inside to do what you want to do.

I havent used any mods on these ships, they are all fully vanilla :). They only use some of the DLC blocks. Yeah they are all built in survival :)

@@TheGarageGamer86 damn i didnt even know that you could make so good looking ships on vanilla. And I dont even want to ask how many hours you spent on each one of these on survival. Awesome!

Oh man I couldn't even tell you haha, some have about 40-50 hours in them. I have about 1,250 hours in the game at this point, many 2am nights 🤣👌.

@@TheGarageGamer86 that's quite a few hours :D. I have 110 but the new patch has broken the game so I can't load up my world

@@thenativemartian5169 oh really? That sucks man :(. Try going into the load screen, selecting the save, then select "save as" and save it as another name and try re-loading it then. It mostly happens with mods though, I usually only play with visual mods so the updates don't normally effect me :).

@@TheGarageGamer86 I tried that and it didn't work So I just made a new world. I have all of my ships saved so it's not a big deal really

That's what the CIC is for 😉

On a lot of my saves I build a massive fuel depot on Europa that can fuel these ships in no-time, and these were also built before they decided to increase the capacity of tanks by 3x lol. But yeah nowadays it can be challange to fuel these ships fully! I think I will make a video touring my fuel depot on europa, although it is currently un-finished :)

Yeah the xbox limit sucks :(. If you have the new xbox the limit is quite alot better :)

Yeah i often do that, especially with the Pilgrim, in my mars save i printed an ion mining ship and whacked some temporary atmo thrusters on the side and parked it on-top, then off to space i went :)

Thanks mate 😁👌 Thanks for watching mate, really appreciate it 😊👌

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Yeah I must admit it can be very difficult to build them. I have a series on the channel where I build a ship from an empty hull, the entire thing :). ru-vid.com/group/PLrdtrYa0Sdy8z0CSpoguct7HSOO3zm2s9

They sure are mate :). The Atlas Mk2 is here - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2459464912 The Manticore is here - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2012334372 And the Pilgrim is here - steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2229593425

Thanks mate, i updated it now. 😂

Yeah that was the look I was going for 😁👍. When I get started on a base in space then I will use cleaner colours 😁👌

I will check it out once I get home from work, but from the screenshots and the description it looks amazing dude, love the design too!! 😁👌😎

Yeah you can make movies on the game, there are a few around the place, and you can play multiplayer in two ways, so firstly you can host a game from your PC or you can have a server host the game, you can rent them from people like GTX etc.

@@TheGarageGamer86 Thank you. Last question, so there aren't any NPC people? Any and all people seen are players?

Nah no people I'm afraid, all the people you see in the game are in multiplayer. You can add NPC's in the form of ships that shoot at you and that you can loot, but they are all run by scripts. So you can get a mod called Modular Encounters Spawner, and from there you can get extra mods ontop of that like assertive installations where it spawns enemy bases that send drones after you etc.

The one in the hangar of the Atlas? Yeah I think one is the Aardvark and the other is the Atom 5 😎👌

I'm pretty sure all of these ships were just Camouflage Black and Battered Armor Black :).

@@TheGarageGamer86 Yeah but the blocks in the interior have these little lights included so you dont need extra interior lights. I dont understand what block that is.. It can't be the camouflage blocks right?

@@kellog9876 oh yeah, that's an interior wall, they have little bits that glow in the dark :)

Yeah all the blueprints should be in the description 😁

Lol, yeah they are quite large, although some on the workshop make these look like fighters 🤣. I do like smaller ships because of their ease to build and the low amount of components you need to build them, especially earlier on in the game 😁. That's the primary reason I built the Pilgrim, just a simple ship to get me to space and grab a few resources. The manticore and Atlas were also created before the Hydrogen rebalance, back then you needed heaps of fuel for them! Now you only really need 1/3rd the amount of tanks as before 😲😲

@@TheGarageGamer86 I lack the ability to build small practical large grid ships. I’m always like ok cargo container here hydro tank there and this design. And I’m so bad at making designs they are such an impractical shape and just adds unnecessary weight and is a waste of resources. I mean I’m saying all of this based on the ship I’m working on in survival which is my first one, and it kinda sucks RIP

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Yeah i have lost a ship or two, purely because i have forgotten to place ammo into them. There is always the ramming option lol, be careful when you do have turrets and they shoot down small drones though, even there wreck smashing into your ship can cause a nice hole to appear in your shiny ship. and never leave space dock without a blueprint of your ship :)

Well most Iost is a few batteries a oxygen tank and light armor blocks also a few solar panels

@@themidnightbanshee5927 That's not too bad i suppose :) Once i lost my only cockpit and then had to scramble and grind down components to build another as i was still coasting at 100m/s lol.

What a coincidence the same thing happened to me 2 months after the previous encounter with space pirates the worst thing is its my own stupidity I placed the flight seat at front and not the rear of the armed cruiser it was still shooting

Countless hours messing around LOL 😎

Yeah no worries, I'll chuck it on tomorrow :)

Here you go mate, let me know if it works or not :) spaceengineers.mod.io/pilgrim-space-shuttle

@@TheGarageGamer86 Hm I found it on mod io then it disappeared. Can not find it in the in game browser at all so it can not be downloaded. Trying to figure it out now

@@thehiredgun2443 I just checked and its definitely still there :)

Yeah sometimes you have to make sacrifices in some areas to be good in others, if your ship can soak a lot of damage and kill anything then I guess it wouldn't really need to turn very sharply 😉

Yeah I havent dared to build anything that big as yet lol 😂, although I really want to build a carrier next, its one thing I havent really built yet 😁

Wow, 54M KG that is massive!! Yeah that slow drifting downwards is caused by ships that are docked up to the main ship via a connector, the inertial dampeners do not compensate for the weight of ships on connectors, to get around it you'll have to use merge blocks. I don't know if the same thing happens when you use sub grids though, I haven't done any testing on that, but it's likely the same story.

@The Garage Gamer I'm so lost , sorry I'm a new player. I don't have any other ships on my ship. I'm just trying to figure out how to keep a 54kg ship to fly smoothly on earth gravity.

Yeah maybe in Space Engineers 2 if it comes out they can make it so the ships turn faster or slower depending on the amount and location of thrusters, although I have to admit it would make it far more difficult to design ships :).

@@TheGarageGamer86 i mean i know it would be far more difficukt to enngineer a ship like that! of course it would be, but honestly i thought it was like that when i saw this game the first time. it was a huge wtf moment for me when i realised its not. (i still bought it tho : D) another thing was the speed limit. i understand why its there but its still such a disappointing thing to only go 100m/s... :/ (i know there are mods but they can break stuff)

@@TheGarageGamer86 i just watched your video about the big rovers, you talk about how gyros can stabilize your rover in...uhm... midair XD aaanyway pls look at videos of Elite: Dangerous, and how their SRV works. short story shorter: they have 6 wheels, and 8 thrusters. 2 big ones to lift the car, and 6 on the wheels to have 3 degrees of freedom for midair control. i think thats far more creativity affirming than just a reactionwheel for this

@@CMDRunematti oh the gyros also play a role when you angle the rover on the side of a hill, it can even stop it from tipping over, you can even get the centre of gravity past the edge of the wheel and the gyros will prevent a roll. I'm quite content with the way they work in Space Engineers, this game is more about building things rather than hard-core science like KSP 🙂. I think the focus here is more on creative freedom. Yeah the speed limit is a bit meh, the 250m/s mod is quite stable from what I've seen, Kenjashi used it for ages and it was stable. They probably put that restriction in there for lower end PC's 😉

@@TheGarageGamer86 i unnderstand its for gameplay and creativity reasons, dont get me wrong! but just as in some superhero movies, whne you learn how something works and its not like that in a game or movie, you will feel a deep disappointment. i find KSP a bit haphazard too :) but also a great game, dont get me wrong! im just very ccriticcal about these things. and about that roll thing you mmentioned, ye, thats a way to use reaction wheels, but...in SE, the gyros can do that indefinitely, if im correct? the reaction wheel would speed up more and more just to keep the roll in the same place, until theres no more RPM to get and you fail. heres a solution for the speedlimit, unlikely that it get implemented, but: you know how there "c" and as you approach it you need more and more energy to accelerate? relativity and stuff : D. well that energy you keep putting in, turns into mass (kinda). in reality 20% c is hard to achieve with rockets and thrusters. so my thinking: set c to 500 meters per second, and apply relativistic math to the moving vehicle. this would mean if you even hit the speed limit at all, your mass would be bigger (you wont just waste thruster power) and still not go too fast for the PCs. this would enable gravity assisted bombing (more mass more damage) or big rail gun kind of things shooting a couple thrusters that get their destructive power ffrom the speed and mass they aqcuire when accelerating. sorry for the long answer....what do you think? i also understand if youre not interested in thinking about it

Nah they are mostly setup for space, or for going from planet to planet with a boat load of cargo. The Manticore was the first large ship I ever built and it was kind of designed to take me to another planet but also be strong enough to take a few hits. The Pilgrim is like a starter ship, I set it up to carry a small miner to space, basically get myself some uranium and platinum and thats about it 😉. I only really have one large grid atmospheric ship but I haven't released the blueprint for that, it's basically like the Pilgrim but the first version of it.

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Anything is possible in this game 😎👌

Nah you got this.

Yeah my first few ships were very average, every time you build something you get better and better 😀

Yeah it has about 26 batteries and 2 small nuclear reactors as well 😉

@@TheGarageGamer86 aye I downloaded it finally, totally using your cool ships as a reference on how configure a hydrogen ship 😩

I have no idea what that means / who that is, so I will assume not 😜😂

What can I say, I love building big ships haha, but yes you can certainly achieve everything you need to with small grid and for alot cheaper 😎👌.

I gotta be honest man, I barely have time to do the whole youtube thing lol. I work full time and have kids so it gets pretty hectic at times :)

@@TheGarageGamer86 no worries! I wasnt really leaning to a video thing tbh. More of a casual thing lol. But hey, being busy isnt bad. Take it easy!

Ohh I see what you mean, ill send you a message.

@@TheGarageGamer86 sounds good. You can find menon steam as Sevyrs or on discord as Sevyrs#0635

These are designed for single player survival :).

I think you are taking shipbuilding bit too competetively since in sandbox pvp why use armor at all anyway when you can just make the entire ships hull out of autowelding gatling guns and have thrusters inside?

What you mean? Like are they only good for creative mode? Nah they are all for survival, I've used all of then for survival :)

@@TheGarageGamer86 Amazing man

Lol yeah, 😆