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In this video Gareth Lynn Montes from Tank Encyclopedia and I talk about Foreign Tanks in the Spanish Civil War. Particularly how they were used, how they arrived, how they were liked, etc.
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A model 1933 (in reality produced in 1936) T-26 of the Nationalist forces, Spain, battle of Guadalajara, March 1937, illustrated by David Bocquelet from Tank Encyclopaedia
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Panzerkampfwagen I in Spain, Nationalist forces, Legion Condor, “El Negrillo”, June 1938, illustrated by David Bocquelet from Tank Encyclopaedia tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/ge...
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In this video Gareth Lynn Montes from Tank Encyclopedia and I talk about Spanish Tanks in the Spanish Civil War. This video covers a large variety of different armored vehicles.
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Illustration of final Verdeja No. 1 Prototype by Tank Encyclopedia’s own David Bocquelet
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@unnatural_log6472
@unnatural_log6472 2 года назад
Remember reading an account about a Nationalist soldier driving a tankette through the wall of a nightclub because they wouldn't let him in. Mine Were of Trouble by Peter Kemp, great book.
@FortuneZer0
@FortuneZer0 2 года назад
Strongly considering this option during this corona fanaticism.
@parrot849
@parrot849 2 года назад
@@FortuneZer0 - I’m with ya on that….
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 года назад
@@FortuneZer0, what, reading?
@FortuneZer0
@FortuneZer0 2 года назад
@@mbryson2899 That too. I recently found a booklet called "La Guerra Futura" by Captain Glasson translated by D. Eduardo Sancho Contreras. I dont speek spanish but im translating bit by bit.
@istoppedcaring6209
@istoppedcaring6209 2 года назад
people keep forgetting the simplest rule "I am in a tank, your point is invalid"
@rare_kumiko
@rare_kumiko 2 года назад
Oh damn, that tank with a double turret is in a museum 20 km away from me and I had no idea! I'll have to go there one of these days.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 2 года назад
This entire video is worth it just for the look on Bernhard's face as he tries to emotionally come to terms with the double-decker turret on the Trubia.
@Lawofimprobability
@Lawofimprobability 2 года назад
The adoption of composites (and specifically composite armor) is one of the lesser known aspects of WWII. I know tungsten alloys were prized in Artillery and some pre-war German artillery was designed with tungsten alloys to make them more mobile but then lost the supply as the economic crisis increased (even importing tungsten for penetrators via Spain was difficult). I know some Israeli designers had taken WWII experience as the basis for some of their early composite designs so I suspect there was more work on them than is generally discussed.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 2 года назад
Yes the Germans had tungsten AP rounds in the mid war but they were unable to build more towards the end of the war because they imported the raw ore from Portugal and Portugal which had tried to remain economically neutral (despite a fascist leaning government assisted German intervention in the Spanish civil war) by trading with both sides equally through quota's, however in May-June 1944 the US threatened to cut off oil shipments upon which the country was dependent for energy if it didnt stop trading with Germany and the German supply was cutoff meaning Germany could no longer produce them in late 44/45.
@michaeldunne338
@michaeldunne338 2 года назад
Tungsten was in short supply in most markets, and priority was usually given to machine tools utilizing the metal.
@michaeldunne338
@michaeldunne338 2 года назад
@@watcherzero5256 by May-June 1944, the Allied bombing campaign had shut down both Nazi airpower and transport across northern France as part of a campaign that built up momentum from the beginning of the year. I would have to check, but actually think the Iberian countries felt the winds change in 1943: With the massive Axis surrender in Tunis; Allied seizure of Sicily; the fall of Italy; and Allied occupation of Corsica and Sardinia in Sept/Oct 1943. I believe during that year they started to discretely change their posture when it came to trading Tungsten.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 2 года назад
@@michaeldunne338 Portugal operated a quota system where each bloc was awarded equal export quotas but foreign owned mines were free of the quotas. Britain owned the largest mine but Germany owned two others. Earlier in the war Britain and the US bought up all the Tungsten on the open market to keep it out of German hands leading to the price increasing 795%. In 1943 Portugal did bow to some allied pressure and implemented currency controls on its sale however Germany simply laundered the money through purchasing other businesses in Portugal, the German state ending up owning a significant market share of the hotel and hospitality industries in Portugal.
@michaeldunne338
@michaeldunne338 2 года назад
@@watcherzero5256 Regardless, there wasn't much tungsten for armor piercing shells. Even the US had a very short supply of them, with HVAP, in the fall of 1944. And by the end of August 1944 the Germans were not getting much, if any tungsten from Iberia.
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 2 года назад
The 1st version of the Italian Lancia 1ZM armoured car from 1915/16 had 2 stacked turrets as well.
@bikepackingmitherbert1153
@bikepackingmitherbert1153 2 года назад
What an expert, beside his outstanding English, how about armor of the Blue Division?
@parrot849
@parrot849 2 года назад
Outstanding presentation. I have read one book, Tank Combat in Spain by Anthony Candil, on armor in the Spanish civil war, but several of the tanks that were covered in this video were not mentioned in the book. Thank you very much.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
Is the book any good? Many pictures? Maps? Eyewitness descriptions of tank combat?
@parrot849
@parrot849 2 года назад
Sir Rather Splendid - The book is a little more than 200 pages long and is fairly well footnoted. It’s has about 25-30 pages of B&W/color photos grouped midway in the book. The book mostly is a detailed chronology of how armor was involved in the Spanish Civil War and is related in the third person. I can’t recall seeing many maps or first person accounts of armored battles in the books. I thought it was pretty good and judging by the footnotes, we’ll researched.
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 2 года назад
Glad to see the Verdeja No.1 finally being discussed. I thought it was pretty interesting.
@briangreen1781
@briangreen1781 2 года назад
I always wondered what type of tank and tankette were at the end of Hemingway's "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Great video and thank you!
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 2 года назад
Excellent topic!👍
@whya2ndaccount
@whya2ndaccount 2 года назад
Great presentation. Bonus points for calling out "Waste of Time's" use of bogus vehicles.
@nepi7847
@nepi7847 2 года назад
i just finished binge watching all spanish civil war related videos and it just left me wanting a spanish tech tree on war thunder, there's a lot of interesting stuff in there but after the civil war most vehicles would be different imports
@joeavent5554
@joeavent5554 2 года назад
Please discuss the CV 3/35 armed with the 20 mm gun that served in North Africa. Thanks for your videos.
@EneTheGene
@EneTheGene 2 года назад
Ah yes, the best armoured vehicle of ww2!
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 2 года назад
These niche videos are so good.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
It was pretty mainstream from 1936 to early 1939. Somewhat overshadowed by what happened in 1939-45.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 2 года назад
These one off copies are actually quite likely, there would have been a lot of spare parts floating around which no longer had a use after the tanks they were intended for were knocked out and they could fabricate their own chassis and fit it out with the spare parts.
@niallcunningham642
@niallcunningham642 2 года назад
Any links to videos of the twin turret replica mentioned at 19:40? Very interesting video - I have to admit the stand-out item is the twin turret concept of the Prototype Trubia - the mind boggles at how this could have worked. Your guest mentions that a museum has built a replica and that there are videos on RU-vid. However I have been unable to find any - all my searches either come back to this video or a few similar ones which have pictures of the original but no mention of the replica. If anyone has had better luck finding such videos then could you please post them.
@armoredinf
@armoredinf 2 года назад
What anti-rank weapons were used other than Molotov cocktails?. (another video?)
@NathanDudani
@NathanDudani 2 года назад
Nice
@alwoo5645
@alwoo5645 2 года назад
interesting I had no idea the spanish build tanks in this period.
@danbrown5736
@danbrown5736 2 года назад
The influence of Mola and Franco maybe?
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 года назад
Basque republicans built them
@signoguns8501
@signoguns8501 2 года назад
@@julianshepherd2038 Not surprising. Fascists and communists dont build, they steal
@dannya1854
@dannya1854 2 года назад
@signoguns The Communists were on the same side as the Republicans, your clear bias of history is disgusting
@ceejay1476
@ceejay1476 Год назад
@@dannya1854 "on the same side" that ones funny, because if the republican side had won the stalinists would've definitely violently purged (executed) every other leftist group, as they were already planning.
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 года назад
nice
@jan42
@jan42 2 года назад
¡No pasarán!
@davidrussell8689
@davidrussell8689 2 года назад
Entiendo que es un tema difícil de investigar por la escasez de documentación fiable pero a pesar de ella enhorabuena por tu trabajo . Muy interesante . Gracias .
@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688
@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688 2 года назад
Ingrish, dood.
@nepi7847
@nepi7847 2 года назад
@@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688 estas en un video donde un alemán y un español hablan en inglés sobre los vehículos de la guerra civil española, y esperas que todos los comentarios sean en inglés?
@Manoooolo
@Manoooolo 6 месяцев назад
​@@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688 Español, cateto.
@sixgunsymphony7408
@sixgunsymphony7408 3 месяца назад
Both sides used the French FT light tanks.
@edgychico9311
@edgychico9311 2 года назад
Thumbnail : A T-26 chassis and a German Pz.3 turret on?
@Flak_Dancer
@Flak_Dancer 2 года назад
Verdeja tank.
@nikokarhunen1063
@nikokarhunen1063 2 года назад
Spain truly was what Syria is now. Full world war in one country and a huuuge playground and testground for generals. Anyone can educate, but what was the resource situation in Spain when tanks were developped? Was there any own oil production or was it all imported?
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 2 года назад
Imported from the US, there was some limited production in Cantabria throughout the first half of the 20th century but it didnt really produce large volumes until the late 50's.
@chadrowe8452
@chadrowe8452 2 года назад
A good question
@JamesCalbraith
@JamesCalbraith 2 года назад
The Fascists were infamously (and illegally) supplied with oil and money by Texaco - google Torkild Rieber. They also controlled the supply from South America. The Soviets supplied some oil to the Republicans, but mostly they had to buy supplies with their own cash reserves, while they lasted. See "Economic Influence of the Great Powers in the Spanish Civil War: From the Popular Front to the Second World War" by Robert H. Whealey for more detail.
@spaman7716
@spaman7716 2 года назад
@@JamesCalbraith based Texaco oil supply
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
@@JamesCalbraith - The Republicans famously sent their entire gold reserves to the USSR for ‘safe keeping’. Did they get any of it back?
@8bit_aviation555
@8bit_aviation555 2 года назад
Question did nationalist Spain have any pz-2
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 2 года назад
not from what I know
@thetankcommander3838
@thetankcommander3838 2 года назад
I beg your pardon, Herr Bernard? Poland gave tanks to Spain? Since when?
2 года назад
Wasnt that in de ladt Video?
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
Yes. The Poles sent (sold?) a fairly large batch of obsolete Renault FT-17s to Republican Spain. They’d originally got them from France in 1919/20/21, and it’s likely that some of them had fought in the Polish-Soviet War of 1919-21.
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 2 года назад
Yes he's actually from Spanish !
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 2 года назад
The look on Bernhard's face speaks volumes..... "why can't the Spanish count?".....
@GreatAdmiral
@GreatAdmiral 2 года назад
Who would be the tank designer in a anarchist collective?
@dannya1854
@dannya1854 2 года назад
Engineers, like in every other society.
@dk6024
@dk6024 2 года назад
Spanish tanks, yo te quiero infinito.
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 2 года назад
Oh my corazon.
@charleswade2514
@charleswade2514 2 года назад
American gun logic: Overkill is underrated….reload and repeat as needed!
@comentedonakeyboard
@comentedonakeyboard 2 года назад
And i thouht Spanish tanks where as rare as the Yeti. Silly me.
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 2 года назад
Spanish tanks, two words I've never seen in the same sentence.
@frankmueller2781
@frankmueller2781 2 года назад
I still have trouble conceiving that most Poles supported the Republican (Soviet supported) side in the SCW, especially considering the Not so distant Russo-Polish war and known Soviet claims on Polish territories.
@JamesCalbraith
@JamesCalbraith 2 года назад
The Republicans were the legitimate government, fighting a fascist coup. Reducing them to 'Soviet supported side' is oversimplification.
@r.ladaria135
@r.ladaria135 2 года назад
@@JamesCalbraithad ex: the legitimate goverment killed or allowed to kill the leaders of political oposition ( Calvo Sotelo was the main victim, not the only one, not the first) it was in the way to become something like today's " bolivarian republics"
@spaman7716
@spaman7716 2 года назад
@James Calbraith The republican side was too busy infighting to actually fight the nationalists tho, there is a reason past the league of nations wanting to keep the peace that France and the UK didnt send troops to hold up the republic; it was rotting from the inside out and even if the nationalists were defeated there would have been the risk of a communist or anarchist revolution and nobody in Europe wanted another one of those
@giovannifontana1433
@giovannifontana1433 2 года назад
@@r.ladaria135 the fascist where killing people of Popular front from 1934 and they were dreaming to bring back to power the De Rivera. So killing Primo was un unfortunate political event in unfortunate political time.
@r.ladaria135
@r.ladaria135 2 года назад
@@giovannifontana1433 Revolución de octubre 1934 AGAINST THE LEGITIMATE GOVERMENT OF THE II REPUBLIC. The fact is that fascism is an italian invention after WWI. So you call fascist to every one that is not comunist and then you coul rob, rape and kill them. And the " fascist" has no wrigt to defense themself.
@SZKARLUPIEN
@SZKARLUPIEN 2 года назад
Poland send tanks to republican spain??? Why???
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
They were obsolete Renault FT-17s, most of them already very worn through many years of use. I believe there was cash involved.
@giovannifontana1433
@giovannifontana1433 2 года назад
The Republicans where a loose collection of political party united by Anti fascism so not only commie or anarchist, while Franco 's nationalist were all fascist, anti liberal, anti commie, anti anarchist, pro monarchy and pro Mussolini and Salazar.
@giovannifontana1433
@giovannifontana1433 2 года назад
O and pro Hitler
@ceejay1476
@ceejay1476 Год назад
@@giovannifontana1433 Uh, that is literally just wrong. Carlists were a significant force within the nationalists and after the war they almost went to war with the falange, so, like, completely wrong. Idk where you got your info from.
@wordofswords5386
@wordofswords5386 Год назад
seems like this guy doesnt like answering questions. Whenevery you ask him a question, he like barely answers it.
@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688
@sindarpeacheyeisacommie8688 2 года назад
Summarized: Derivative designs, mostly. With execution even poorer than the originals. They probably should not have bothered.
@crumbum2
@crumbum2 2 года назад
Spanish tank production influencing the American design? That joke made me laugh too!
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 2 года назад
Germans 1936: Upgunning Pz 1 with a 37 or 45 mm gun? Are you nuts? Germans 1945: Im sure the Pz 1 can be upgunned with a 75mm, why not...
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 2 года назад
?
@raseli4066
@raseli4066 2 года назад
What's the point you are trying to make?
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 2 года назад
Well the Spanish did retrofit 4 Pz I Ausf A’s with 20mm Breda cannon. Strange that the Germans never copied them before 1939.
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 2 года назад
The point is that the German sense of technical superiority was not always based in reality and they absolutely did not understand the desperation of the Spanish people until they were thrown in a similar situation themselves. Once they were, they also started upgunning whatever with whatever, for example the Pz I with a 75mm KwK (not a 88 that I previously stated).
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized 2 года назад
@@pavelslama5543 I have heard not of Panzer I with a 75mm ever. So to what are you referring actually? It should also be noted that Hitler wanted the 50L60 in the Panzer III earlier, but they did not follow his order since they (I think it was the Heereswaffenamt) thought it was not viable and put the 50L42 in. You seem to mix up "reality" and "opinion", also by 1945 there was also far more experience, etc. available (assuming there was really such a project). Then there is of course the aspect that you don't want someone else tinkering around on "your" equipment as well, especially if there are different standards in discipline etc. See also the British not really liking the M3 Grant/Lee at first, although some point out that it was clearly a better tank than what the British had at the time.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 года назад
Got to love a machine for killing fascists
@Paciat
@Paciat 2 года назад
Especially since you can call everyone a fascist.
@r.ladaria135
@r.ladaria135 2 года назад
IDEM, but comunists...
@giovannifontana1433
@giovannifontana1433 2 года назад
@@Paciat I don't how to define a reactionary, nationalistic, military and religious coup against a democratic government. If that's not fascism i m Jesus reborn in to a body of Italian metal worker
@Paciat
@Paciat 2 года назад
@@giovannifontana1433 You have to add and " strong regimentation of society *and of the economy* " And those tanks were build to fight Poles Finns, Romanians and later on Germans even before Hitler got to power. No, they werent designed to fight Italy witch was the only Fascist country in 1931 when T-26 entered production.
@stevenbreach2561
@stevenbreach2561 2 года назад
They'd have only been democratic until they got power,that's the way Communism works(The Fascists were no better)
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