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the contact in here was not expected! you guys exchanged some solid knocks. Gave me a lot of insight into the approach with such a weight difference. Have you ever been to City League Coffee in Bay Ridge?
The bouncer reminds me of a side boss that has that one annoying move you can’t block but only evade and is extremely annoying because one punch you loose half if not all health points
@@NROhvac nick. Your accurate ass breakdown let's any REAL fighter know you're in fact a FIGHTER that loves fighting games. Lol I don't even know you and I can tell. Lol
When pro athletes breakdown their sparring like this, it always reminds me of how massive is the gap between us amateurs (even though I've been training for more than 5 years) and them.
Indeed, the skill gap between untrained, hobbyist, amateur and pro is simply staggering. What's crazier is that even among pros there is yet another huge gap between bottom ladder vs top ranked fighters.
@@jayc5248 BJ is notorious for being the most undisciplined prospect in MMA. Him losing to a guy half his size after so many KO losses, it's not surprising. Sad to see rare talent go to waste
Great breakdown, that’s a good example of a big tough dude. It’s not a beautiful technical back and forth but he seems as dangerous as anybody you’ve been up against. Cool vid thanks as always Jeff!
I think the technique is there, just the athleticism/flexibility to employ them isn’t. If that dude lost 20-30lbs and improved his flexibility, I think his technique would show better
Always scary when a big dude rushes toward you and your strikes don't seem to hurt him as much as his would. Great composure, Jeff. Your movements are beautiful!
I've been sparring partners that are about 240+ lbs., one of them working in tactical security, and even though they're thankfully controlled, it is yet another reminder of how much size and strength absolutely matter in a fight, which makes total sense why that line of work employs people of that size; you really wouldn't want to mess with them in real life lol for training purposes, it has taught quite a few things that I am working on, not the least of which is being even more disciplined about my guard and defense, while at the same time biting down and attacking under stress and pressure, a feeling one normally wouldn't get sparring smaller partners as one could get away with a lot more with superior height and reach.
I'm a huge 5'-7" behemoth at 137 lbs! Everyone I sparred or fought was always bigger than me! I never fooled myself into that trap where one thinks that just because you train in various martial arts that you'd beat an average person who had size and weight against you. Just sparring untrained people wakes you up to that reality! They are able to hit you because they're awkward and they hit harder because they aren't as controlled. LOL That's why I also train in edged weapons/force multipliers. Use my speed and foot work (if I had to). But mainly drop the ego and never try and get into dumb situations. Anyway, great vid! Much respect to Jeff n the nimble big guy!
Training with bigger guys will always teach you more than a smaller guy. Training vs smaller guy just feeds your ego because it's so easy to dominate them.
Yeah most definitely. But if you’ve got good wrestling and jujitsu. You can use that against a bigger opponent. But I think with striking a bigger guys gonna have an advantage
When I used to train with Muay Thai atlhetes here on Brazil in King Thai (training center where Amadeu Cristiano came from) my former trainer always saying to me when we used to spar with heavyweight atlhetes : "hit and get out,don't trade"( in brazilian language:"bate e sai,não fica trocando"). Now I know what he was talking about thanks by you Jeff. I have been watching your videos for 3 years,keep it up,U made my sparring sessions better. Be safe,be healthy,wish you the best always!
What sucks about being a smaller, shiftier fighter going against a big guy like this is that they start to go harder when they feel they're losing. As the smaller guy, I land alot more of attacks when we're going like 50%, b/c going 50% usually makes the bigger guy even slower, so then they start to get frustrated when they're landing barely anything and you keep touching them up. In an effort to move faster, they throw harder, and at some point there's a threshold where your like, "hey man, don't kill me" 😂.
You make a great point! I worked at a gym for awhile and one of my coworkers(much smaller than me), wanted to do western boxing sparring. Myself being larger and using kickboxing, figured it was a good way to get better at just hands, so i agreed. I feel bad cause when he started landing alot on me, i decided to just march forward(fast), take whatever he did and just nail him. Welllll, he saw that coming. So everytime i got frustrated, he got really evasive. I remember thinking.."wow is it this obvious to him, what im trying to do when i get frustrated 🤔?"
@@manfrombritain6816 I mean I get it, which is why I have to remind them that this light sparring is fake in a way, but it has its uses (combos, movement, range, timing, etc), but it's lacking that real fight contact which changes everything. The second those big dudes start hitting you for real, you realize how fragile you are 😂
I’m 6ft and 265, built quite a bit like this guy and train MT. Don’t see much representation of this body type in MT videos so nice example of what some skill can look like at this size.
Man this was really cool to watch. You're both bobbing and weaving fantastically. Both very mobile, both have great endurance. Thanks for sharing with us!
In my utmost humble opinion. What I truly appreciate about Jeff’s proficiency, is his ability to adapt accordingly in regards to his opponents, this again is an testament to his overall experience, we can observe the same with other high level practitioners, Saenchai for one ( He usually fights above his weight class). One of the key factors to be able to “Dominate” An larger/ heavier/ stronger opponent is the ability to absorb/ deflect/ redirect the energy, avoiding direct confrontation:going force against force ( As doing so against a stronger individual will indeed be an losing battle) Many south East Asian systems purport/ encourage this, ie: “ You can’t move him? Then move yourself” A good clincher/ grappler utilizes the same tactics, frame/s/ structural sound foundation with sublime tactility/ sensitivity, to find the path of least resistance, andJeff, again, applies and utilizes the aforementioned tactics impeccably. Always an honor to be able to observe and learn from such an peer as yourself Jeff. Sincere regards. Fellow Martial Artist. Tom Framnes. Norway.
This is a great example of what is sometimes required in terms of opponent and intensity, for a quality and rigerous pressure test. Also, it reveals the reality of why we have weight classes in open-trade sports (boxing, mma, etc). Coming from a martial arts background, its exactly this sort of environment and opponent that reveals the challenges that self-defense, "technique based" systems must necissarily come up against when it comes to effective application of skill in extremis. Despite the training, experience, cardio, strength, speed, etc that Jeff has learned and earned...a bigger opponent is more than just a bigger target. When technique levels are closer to similar, there's not a huge reduction in somebodies quickness and reaction speed despite the very real increase in muscle and nerve fiber, bone density, and sheer mass...so no matter what eight winds fist you might practice or whatever dojang guru you learned froms' lineage...its gonna take more than what you might have in terms of literal physical characteristics to overcome. not to say that that their arent any. all this to say that technique and skill are not levels to be matched against physical characteristics directly; but multiplying factors for them running along fine lines of deliniation. Os, Jeff.
As a relatively smaller guy (5'9'' 180lbs) I love sparring against the big boys. It always reminds me not to get too big for my britches. Size does matter. I would have no hope, other than fighting EXTREMELY dirty, against Ramone. As you showed, you could be great and dodge 20 punches, and hit with 20, but one from him will equal 20 of ours lol. We have a big guy at our dojo. 6'2'' 260lbs, and when he charges forward, I still get a big scared lol. I have to check his knees or dodge and parry around his backside fast or its over. Great vid as usual Jeff, great to see you back at the JKD school.
It’s rare when a smaller dude can hold his own against a heavyweight, and if they do hold their own it’s because their power is unreal for their size. Canelo is a good example of a small guy who went up too much in weight and tried to overachieve. (Respect to canelo) but size definitely matters
@@1gadena at one point, the amount of power needed to KO or rock any dude has been met, regardless of their size. It's not like they got much bigger HP tank because they are bigger. The offense might be much higher but at one point, the human body can just take so much... a clean punch from Mike Tyson can drop any man on Earth regardless of their size...
Ramone has skills and control. Impressive evasion and strikes on your part too! Dodging the numerous strikes in those long combos he threw at you does not look easy.
Just noticed how astoundingly long the bouncer's arms are! Usually, stocky guys also have average/short reaches. I'm built similarly- 70 inches tall, but nearly 75 inches reach. I'm also a little heavy too, often over 200 lbs. It was refreshing for me to see a spar against someone with a build as awkward (in my opinion). Anyway, great video as usual.
Wow. This is evidence that a big guy with less experience that a lighter pro fighter can be dangerous. Gone are the days when everybody believed that a small martial artist can whip any big guys butt. The reality is different. Good video Jeff, you realy are a true combatant.
I'm a big (old) guy who now trains mainly in boxing and I must say Ramone is rather scary 😟🤗 A big man that has some agility and knowlege/experience. I like the point where you mention being patient and waiting for a punch. That's when I feel most confident and in control of a fight. Calm down, relax and see what's coming. You gotta have something to work with before you know what you're up against, and usually where there is a punch there is also an opening for a counter.
On the pure boxing segment instead of constantly fading back onto the rear foot, try to shifting your weight and alternating rear and then v step and go heavy onto the front. Especially if he is blitzing like that. You would have Matador him, and pivoted right under his arm on the weak side for some beautiful counters. Willie Pep was a master at this. Granted this mostly only works in boxing because you don't have to worry about running into a knee or kick.
Wow awesome video coach! Being a smaller guy myself and having felt what it’s like to engage with bigger dudes, watching this gave me serious anxiety lol, one clean punch controlled or not is dangerous, great job and great video, very much enjoyed it
When i was a teenager for the past 10 years i thought kung fu is the best, BUT After i become an adult I'm interested in the Mixed Martial Arts as the most realistic and dynamic form of fighting. Thanks for the learning you share with us sir 👍
As a bigger (and now relatively old) guy (6', 230) in JKD who focuses on speed, power, and accuracy, I am very impressed by this fighter. He has great movement as well as stamina - with a slight waist trimming he would be even more capable. The "punch and run" technique from the "smaller guy" here makes good sense. Thanks for this video.
Well done Jeff. Teeping constantly on a guy that runs in always works as well as the peek a boo (tyson) method. Appreciate that you are so honest about your videos no ego there. Great work.
Subbed! As an ex amateur boxer I want to comend you on the breakdowns but even more for your respect for your opponent and humbleness that only a true fighteer has (not always obviously).
Great video. You were in control of the Boxing round, slipping most of his shots and landing a lot of your own. The Muay Thai round looked a lot closer. For such a big guy, he has fantastic movement and stamina.
I mean if he is fighting someone his size then yeah, but most of the time he probably can just eat the punch, while you are open and counter and you'll be the one KTFO
For sure he moves well he’s explosive, he’ll demolish 99 percent plus of people out there. However he can def up his game by adding some versatility. My bro is 6’3 250, ex college football player and thought he would come in and crush everyone by rushing with straight punches. He got humbled to say the least.
This dude is a UNIT! I'd imagine with a little more time and technical work, he'd take that size and natural durability into a seriously dangerous set of skills. Cheers, Jeff!
Man i am shocked at how size neutralizes skill at some point, The largest guys i have sparred thus far are 300-315 pounds, thing is these guys only had good boxing and one had boxing+Bjj down, thing is i have a ton of tactics with big men that i always employ and they work like a system so i was shocked to see you struggling here like legit. Someday i'll meet a 280 pound beast like this guy too though so i will be ready just for incase great vid man.
loved the video, cheers Jeff. This opponent had a presence of 'real' and dangerous. Great to see sparring between different body types/weights. Envy both fighters' skills
Nice 👍 I remember training 15 20 years ago in a Muay Thai gym and even the big guys who some had no technique but they're so much mass behind a kick or a punch that s*** would rock ya like a tree trunk falling on you.
Fighting smart and humble big guys is the best. My cousin and I used to spar in boxing and he had about 3 inches and 100-120 pounds on me. I had a lot more experience but despite this he was still able to demonstrate restraint and it was a great learning experience.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy he quickly understood his opponent and he disturbed Jeff a lot by pressuring him . Jeff lost his ability to compose . We can clearly see that this guy know how to fight even with a superior technical opponent . I guess he got a street fight sight IQ
The big guy is talented and very heavy handed and fast…..your footwork movement timing and range distance was great….you are also very composed and tough 👍
Great stuff, as always. It's amazing how weight plays such a crucial role. You are obviously more skilled, but if he decided to go full power, that would be it. You can't "block" strikes with such power/weight behind them....a guy his size cracked my ribs with a body shot during sparring and I had actually blocked by tucking my elbow to my hip...still, the force was enough to cause damage.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy Yeah, but Jeff couldn't inflict the damage this guy could have inflicted if they went full contact. Weight divisions exist for a reason. For example a normal sized 13 year old, couldn't really knock you out, no matter how fast and skilled they are. I have sparred big guys - leg kicks don't even register, and yes, you could KO them (in theory) if you caught their chin the right way, but it is most likely they will destroy you first before you get the opportunity to do so. Realistically, you could only dominate them on the ground and go for a good choke (as the dynamics change and they can't hit you as easily) but still, it's highly unlikely...
@@panostsak Not necessarily. You have sparred big guys as we all have, but you're not Jeff,. In an actual fight (either street or professional fight) people will do things different than in sparring. I've sparred smaller faster guys that dont hurt me in sparring, but in a real fight at full speed, full force, it takes just one shot to shut out the lights. Dont think that Jeff isnt holding back too here. What makes these sparring rounds so interesting is how talented and skilled Ramone is WITH his size.
Hey Jeff, love your channel! Great breakdown, very helpful for me as I’m usually the smaller guy. I have a question about your head movement. I see you lean over your waist when dipping. I see a lot of boxers do that too, but I was taught never to do that in Muay Thai because you can eat knees and kicks from there. How do you dip like that while still evading kicks and knees?
For a guy his size, Ramon is in fabulous shape and his skills are very good. He'd be a tough guy to beat if a clubber ever started something. Very impressive.
I’d be scared to fight someone big who moves that fast 😆. Jeff this was great! Can we please have more videos of you sparring with guys like this please?
When someone blast forward like that, is sidestepping around him not a better option? Fx stepping to his right or left with your whole body. Forcing him to stop going forward. Especially when he gains momentum it's hard to stop that and just turn to his side where you are now. It could create some new openings to explore. Do it again and again when needed. Either right away or Evade backwards in the beginning and suddenly move around him. There are many ways to do it right, even while striking etc. There is also many ways to screw this up so be careful. I mean sidestepping about or under 90 degrees according to his forward line, perhaps under his strike and small cirkel around him sharply. Just an idea for more counter options against the forward barrage of punches😊. His rear leg is the easiest side to get around him. Bc when he steps with that leg it's harder to get around.
Yeah you got the right idea it’s just hard to do that in the moment especially if your trying to slip punches like Jeff is cause your planting your feet when you slip. That’s why when a guy is moving his head a lot you can usually hit the body pretty’s easily.
My guy, you’re good. I’ve been following you for 2 years now. I’ve kick-boxed with heavy weights and made them tired. I’m surprised you didn’t make him tired though. When I spar with heavy weights, I stay away, then hit only their stomach. As the fight goes on, I close my distance with my hands always up and return everything they throw. That’s how I have made them and continue to make them tired and they give up.
Strength is very important - especially in a street fight. So yes, lifting more weight makes you a better fighter. Ramsey Dewey spoke about it in his videos a lot.
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 no, I exactly have said, that even without martial arts training a person, who lifts a lot, is going to be far more dangerous in a street fight, that a person without training both. Sometimes even a very strong person can challenge a martial artist in a street fight, but of course there are levels.
I'll tell you something, both of these guys are in good shape! The average person is unaware of the level of conditioning that is required to go a fraction of the time these guys are sparring.
This guy is extremely impressive. I’m no where near as heavy as him but there I was coping and thinking I can’t be fast because I’m "too big". Need those reminders☝🏻
These kind of videos are my inspiration to keep me going! It sure ain't easy for me at 5'11 245 pounds, but guys like Ramon at 280 pounds make it look easy and that gives me strength.
I had a training partner that size that was a lineman in Alabama on a full ride in the early 00's! He too was a bouncer. MMA was still developing, and I was never as good as you, but it was eye opening! Dude's half-hearted jab was like a committed cross from a lot of guys my weight (145lbs fighting and 155 walking around), the difference in our left hooks was hilarious... I could use kick boxing to hold him off for a while. Then, inevitably, I'd wear out.... I wasn't in your shape though; I could make two or three, 2 -3 minute rounds, before he could just run me over and I couldn't avoid his shots or sweeps well enough to be worth while. I'd beg to work with guys closer to my size then... 😆 Off camera, did he try to grapple and ground and pound you more? I know his instructors didn't want him screwing up their seminar, but you have way more skill than I had-- I'd love to see how that would go!
I like how Jeff REALLY urgently tries to get out of the way when Bouncers "searching paw" is on him. If a guy can put his palm on your shoulder or bicep he can FEEL you move before he sees it AND he is also in power striking range.
Im no pro or anything but what stood out to me is that Ramone had a harder time catching you when you circled instead of just backing up. In fact it looked like the more you backed up, the more momentum he gained to charge you with a heavier blow, not to say you cant counterpunch when he's moving into it with soo much energy.
whenever I watch videos of this type I am in awe of the speed, precision and power of Bruce Lee. For the most part, all of these guys look pretty much the same.
When he rushes with a barrage of punches you step off line and land a hook to the body with either hand finishing with a hook to his head on that blind side. You look great against the big guy. He’s very fast wow!!!!
great video as always. two unsolicited pieces of advice 1) try to incorporate spin sweeps / trips in your clinch game. especially against bigger opponents it's a great way to get them off balance when they push into you in the clinch. 2) when disengaging from the clinch push the opponent on the way out. that way thei are fighting their balance before they can effectively attack again. Massive kudos for going head to head with such a big guy!
Fun....what people don't realize is in my 20 years sparring mma pros...I had a 71" reach and most the LHW and HW guys I sparred were more in the 74-80" reach range. You work w what you got