Spatial Computing on the Quest 3: Do You Really Need a Vision Pro? 

the idiot didn't even do a right job showcasing the strengths of the quest lmao.

Is it limited by quest 3 or by their default app?

Yeah I noticed that was incorrect too. The best way to open different apps is to just drag them from the dock to the space you want to see it in.

It's not dumb, 99% of people will want to focus on one app at the time. Your phone works the same way for example. However you can drag a second app from the task bar directly onto a side window slot to skip the whole moving your first app thing.

Image quality sucks when you actually try to read text, nobody really wanna do productivity or read things in quest3. the RU-vid video doesn’t show you the actual quality so many people will easily get fooled. And for those who had quest3, they never experienced a better display and see the day and night difference. It’s like someone using 1080 display will be happy with it if he never tried 4K monitor. But once you experienced 4K monitor? You never wanna go back.

And better field of view, that's one of the most important things for a good VR experience.

@@sharpvidtube so better field of view is more important than screen resolution and low latency

@@lesleyhaan116for some yes, personally I’d rather have both lmao

@@lesleyhaan116The resolution of the Quest 3 is fine. This isn’t the Rift.

@@lesleyhaan116 Quest 3 is 120hz so yes it also has lower latency

That would be an epic versus video.

Hololens 2 is what people need to be comparing the Vision Pro with.

@@CNET all you need to do is get the vision pro and compare it at the same time with what you just did there.

@@asifrasheed5383 why the Hololens 2 is a real AR headset while the Vision Pro is a VR headset with Mixedreality passthrough capabilities.

i have experienced xReal for working productivity, it feels like still at beta, not stable, headache due to feels imbalanced, but very promising , few more tweaks for its balancing, then we have a desktop replacement

whether you think or not you wouldn't have bought the Vision Pro😊😊

Many people cannot think by themselves so they have others justify their purchases for them. Just the psychology of how that was worded. Phew another RU-vidr just saved you from buying something you know nothing about.

How do you find reading text? It’s a little difficult for me to

and you can workout on the quest 3.

have you tried vision pro?

@@wonderlandzhao1514 yes I took it home for a weekend, it’s really incredible. Better than the Quest 3 just not 7x better

​@@wonderlandzhao1514Buy a Vision pro with your money and give him to try it 😂😂. I can see he mostly choose Quest 3 cuz because of games.

@@davidmthekidd 1) You definitly can 2) If you usage of a VR Headset is just having virtual displays on your environment, buy a bigger screen and save money xD

The Quest has a screen resolution of 2064x2208 per-eye and the Apple has 3680x3140 per-eye... not sure where you get 3-times the resolution. Is it because the Apple has a smaller field of view?

As someone who dislikes apple as a company, is a diehard android fanboy, and owns a quest 3, I disagree with this tbh. The vision pro is actually pretty cool. Saying "3x the resolution of the quest 3" isnt a good way to put it. The vision pro has a PPD of around 60-70. For reference, the only other headset on the market right now that has that level of clarity is the 6000 dollar varjo enterprise headset that also requires like a 1 grand a month subscription to use, not to mention a VERY powerful computer. For even more reference, the quest 3 and quest 2 both have ppd's of about 25. It is said that a PPD of 70 is similar to just looking through a window, there are no pixels visible to the naked human eye. On top of that, the vision pro is oled, similar to the bigscreen beyond. This means that you get the deep blacks which make a HUGE difference in an immersive VR experience. Adding on even MORE to this is the M2 chip. Like it or not, the S24 ultra is the first android phone with a chip powerful enough to beat apple's silicon, and thats compared to their MOBILE chipset. The M2 chip is a chip used in enterprise workstations and is incredibly powerful. I am sure it is very clocked down to maintain battery life and heat in the vision pro, but the fact that they are able to pack such a powerful chip into a standalone headset is incredibly impressive. This probably means that the vision pro can run at its native resolution without a computer, unlike the quest 3, which needs a powerful computer to run at its full capability because the chipset just isnt powerful enough to run it at its full potential.

@@covertpuppytwo3857 sceen resolution works exponentially. For example, 1440p is actually almost double 1080p. Quest 3 and vision pro have almost the same fov

​@@AutTheWizardthe M2 kind of does native resolution. It relies on fauviated rendering with the eye tracking. I'm not knocking it's but it's a similar amount of compute compared to a Q3 running full res all the time.

Let's not overlook the most important thing. No VR adult content with the APV.

Yeah, I was disappointed when Meta basically abandoned using OLED on their 'mainstream' headsets after the CV1... I actually still use my CV1 for any PC based VR games. I just still seem to prefer the benefits inherent with OLED more than the improved resolution of the Quest/Rift-S LCD displays!

Will it make me feel as nauseous as the original quest did? 🤢🤷🏾

@@Tonabillity That side has been improved in newer headsets like the Quest 3

@@HenleyBailey Thx That’s good to know 👍🏽

​@StreetPreacherr unfortunately oled had problems with mura and smearing that bothered some more than the enhanced contrast would offset. AVP also still has these problems with their displays, according to some reviews

AND watch your wide screen TV 👁️😜

Sounds like fun!

Yeah, it's also $3000+ more.

I used Linux with immersed too. 3 virtual monitors.

It has some benefits, people that were so snobbish about the Quest 3, will soon have an AVP gathering dust😂

Mmm 🍎

Its like a mutual profits.. they get views.. manufacturers gets huge hypes.. do not just swallow any "tech youtuber" eventho they're big.. you already what i mean who they are..

Lol you wanna compare this to Vision Pro, come on mate. It’s not even close

​@@TechWithShonHe made a compelling case

Same here, but I think as soon as there's a decent rival, I'll be switching to it. Seems like the only sensible option at the moment.

@@sharpvidtube Yes I agree 100%!

How was your yt vr experience? Last i checked it was lo-res. Fun but grainy. Maybe depends on the author source res?

Being able to admit that apple does SOME things better as a predominantly android user, is maturing

@@jamesramsey2400 One thing they do better than anybody else is marketing. To make you feel important or elite because of a logo is brilliant.

I was focusing on free apps. Virtual Desktop is $19.99.

@@CNET oh okay good point.

They kinda had to go for higher resolution otherwise against the Quest 3 it would simply be DOA. But it's clear what that costs to implement displays like this in a stand alone headset is practically out of the consumer market price-wise

"Spatial Computing" is nothing new. It's just VR and AR.

Nope. There was update 2 weks ago. Now is perfectly sharp a new.

@ Oh nice, yeah that’s much better! I was able to play up to 4K. Maybe still no 8K? I’ll have to do a better check later.

​​@@mikeyr5275What do you need 8k for? BTW to theoretically use 8k would have to have a better processor than it currently has, plus only very expensive TVs can do that

Awesome I gotta try it

Yes. I mention that you can use some apps side by side. Not the games though.

​@@CNETnot to seem rude but duh how can you play 2 games at a time

It looked crisp and clean and the audio played through the headset. I didn’t try using multiple windows from Premiere but I’ll give it a go.

That’s my plan 😂

you get it.

That's a Quest 3

@@Kayzef2003 He refers to the Quest 2 as an option in the video, without mentioning the substantial downside that I referenced.

For games, I prefer the black and white passthrough, its less distracting. I asked if they could add it to the Quest 3, still waiting for a response😂

@@sharpvidtube options/accessibility features are always nice to have, but I think many people prefer color, doubt they will add it anytime soon

Spatial is another word for 6DOF

@@n9ne That has nothing to do with 3D video?

When I heard the Apple announcement I was excited that they made a breakthrough in volumetric video compression. Real let down that spatial video is just their brand of stereoscopic 3D

@@n9neApples spatial videos are misleading and not 6dof videos but only sidebyside 3d videos, not even 180° 3d videos.

You cannot record video with the quest 3. The difference with the AVP is the resolution. And eventually Apple will make it easy to edit spatially video. Try editing your qoocam 3d video or any other for that matter.

Exactly

It’s $19.99. I was showing off free apps. This video was about spatial computing without spending a fortune. 🥠

virtual desktop does even more in some aspect, on top of being very regularly updated and the developer really liste a lot to the community! If you are going for a quest 3 with the goal of saving up 3000$, I think it's only fair to mention a 20$ app that can pretty much do everything you need. :) maybe mention it next ;)@@CNET

But Virtual Desktop does not support multi-window viewing compared to Immersed and Meta Workroom Horizon app…that’s a dealbreaker for many

My Quest 3 now has an option for Live Streaming which is pretty cool

Monitors look clear to me. I had no issues seeing text or editing videos in pass through. You just gotta move the screen to a comfortable distance.

Do it! I'm sure your take would be a little different. E.g. maybe you would show more realistic scenarios, or have put more time in.

Also you can open 3 apps on quest 3, he said the wrong thing

sucks in what way?

Or just get Samsung's. Will interface better with your Google ecosystem than Meta's will.

Yeah with no future os and software support, easy to break, missing stock parts after certain year, difficulties finding global official repair location, broken and laggy overtime

He said he never tried it. That shouldn't matter because he's doing a Quest video.

This was not a versus video. Just showing how you can enjoy spatial computing on the Quest 3 since that’s a new term we’re all coming to terms with.

You can log into a Microsoft account. I’m able to use Google Docs the same way I normally do.

@@CNET He asked about Microsoft Word, Excel, Outlook, and Teams. He didn't ask about Google Docs.

I know Word, PowerPoint and Excel is available in the Quest. Don’t use them myself since I prefer using Immersed to access all apps available on my computer instead. If you’re used to having 1-2 screens on your computer, imagine having 5-6 that you can resize and place in the air 🤩

Take your iPhone/camera on a trip with your points and make some memories.

Why does that matter when he's making a Quest video?

@@MobileDecay because he’s clearly comparing it to the Vision Pro maybe ?

@theeglobalcitizen He's not making a comparison of which one has better quality. He's simply showing people they can do the same things on the Quest platform. Which is great if you can't afford a vision pro and and want similar experiences. I demoed the Vision Pro and know how good the, displays, hand tracking, and passthrough is but this video is fine. If he came out and started telling you the Quest was better and he never tried it then I would understand your point but he didn't.

Because I was demonstrating how you can connect all of your Apple devices.

​@@CNET This was a rhetorical question. It really doesn't matter which mouse you use for your illustrative purpose. I just wanted to dunk on the Magic Mouse. Hope you didn't take my comment to personal.

The quest 3 is the best, I'd definitely not advise the quest 2, the cheaper price really reflects "you got what you paid for". $500 is a steal for what the quest 3 offers, with the most you may want to upgrade being the default head strap

Really it’s $650 since 128gb is too little storage especially as apps take more advantage of the updated specs the quest 3 has which means larger file sizes

Shhhhhh they are trying to convince people it's the same as a the AVP and that it just works. Less people buying the AVP means more stock for the real nerds the ones that actually can and know what the device is.

Apple didn't send any headsets out to anyone who has experience with VR. They're terrified of direct comparisons.

This isn't a direct compare and contrast, it's just showing that "SpAtIaL cOmPuTiNg" (god, how many focus groups did Apple put that through?) isn't exclusive to Vision Pro. If you want reviews from complimentary headsets sent out you're only going to get them from the Apple approved influencers. At least for now those are the only people I've seen who were given advanced access to the device to have reviews ready on launch. Which, to me, is really suspicious.

@@ItDaBizthat's not totally true. While I don't know the back story, but first of all, there are almost no experienced VR users that are also popular tech reviewers. While it's true that everyone that reviewing it saying how they loved VR and tested everything, that's not true most of the time. The only popular tech reviewer that I know of who used VR semiregularly is Linus Tech Tips. He never received his headset because of his relationship with Apple. and by the way, experienced VR users loving this thing. You can look up VR veterans review of the headset. Yeah most of them say that we are using VR for either VR gaming or social experience, both is almost non-existent in Apple's headset. But they also admit that VisionOS is top-notch and display-passthrough quality is on another level. Even the problems with comfort are kinda overblown by people who never wore a VR headset before longer than one hour.

I think that you don't need to worry about this device, you've probably never thought of VR before, and now hype've started, is it enough to justify it for you? If you're on the fence - just wait or give up on it or at least just try any friend's headset yourself

Yes, but it’s not free.

Apple is the type that would call fire something new and then claim they invented fire.

Quest software version v62 coming in gradually startin this last february 7th bring the option to import spatial video from iphone to Quest!

@@lolmaxzz cool so I can just send my family my spatial video if they have this version on their quest they don’t have iPhone 15 pro but can they still watch my spatial video I send them thanks

Did not feature Virtual Desktop because it’s costs $19.99. I was focusing on productivity apps you can download for free to save 💵

Yes, it seems spatial video is BS, it's just 3D video. The Quest 3 is OK for viewing that.

not really some times I forget my headest is on my head

Sure, but itsnot even remotely close to a $3000 difference. That is insane.

It’s clear and crisp on quest 3 you can do general productivity work.

@@YashrajThakor06 I find the resolution not perfect on quest 3 yet, it's definitely better than the Q2 (it's also A LOT clearer on the edge of the lenses) and can be use without trouble most of the time, but small text that would be readable on a normal screen can often be to pixelated in the headset. It does let you get 3 screens even from a laptop so I still thing it can be better than using just a normal PC in some cases.

@@Mfire33 sorry to say but i think you got a damaged product trust me on this it’s definitely not clearer as vision pro but the quest 3 have clear fonts nothing like that I have noticed even when staring at the text for a while. Lol

Will the quest three make me as nauseous as the original quest did, or have they gotten better?

The pass through is very similar. It darkens the screen. I turned the brightness all the way up. One cool thing is using the Digital Crown to go into an immersive environment. But it’s very similar to the Quest 3. Not a gem changer yet for me.

Very clearly.

Bad take, no competition for apple, they cant implement this feature if only snobs who buy for $3500 can afford to buy it. meta has mass marketed it in a way that apple cant, at a price which is far more accessible for consumers while even then I would argue is still niche despite the selling numbers of all quests combined, theres a reason why meta is investing in this sector as this technology as they will be the first market entrants, huge advantage for everyone and even me who is really interested in this type of hardware and want to see it improve.

Wut?

@@FrameGame1 That’s exactly what everybody said about the iPhone/Apple Watch when they first came out - that they were too expensive and had no apps and nobody would be interested in it over a BlackBerry/Fitbit. Apple will eventually make history with each new VP version as it gets smaller and comes way down in price (and it will). In the meantime, Meta’s plastic contraption will be nothing but history just like the others.

@@iTod1991 to be fair seems right my only concerns is that the original price is so high that they would need to really cut down on the costs or utilise economies of scale to make it generally more accessible which we know is not what apple does with new product releases apart from like the m1 Mac which is still in production for around 5 years. The nature of the product sugguest it is still in beta testing stage like you said it’s still new and there are not too many implementations of software for it, while meta might get sucked out of the market my only concern is it will take a while because at which price will it be where a consumer is willing to purchase such a product even at let say a new asking $2500 which is still $1000 less for apple but still a fortune for your average consumers (price of a used car vs gimicky product) makes it so it will be a while