Who Cares About the Metaverse? 

If Facebook is losing, it means we are winning.

You did a better job explaining this than a multi billion dollar company

Ever notice how most people forced into zoom meetings block video and audio when given the opportunity? Yeah, we damn sure don’t want to be in a vr room with everybody.

Thanks great video I like the fact that you have a lot of content and reflections in your video. Thought provoking too.

This is why this man is popular. Explains the metaverse better in fifteen minutes than people that take hours.

The face and eye tracking is next level data collection. If Meta knows what you look at, what content makes you react, what content invokes certain emotions linked to facial expressions, that is data better than even Google has on us now. That's some scary shit imo.

I had zero interest in the Metaverse and VR until my wife bought our family a Quest 2 for Christmas. Everyone in our house loves that thing and I never thought I'd say it, but I love it too.

if you think it's weird when an add pops up for something you've spoken about, just imagine what it'll be like with meta secretly watching every single meeting, social interaction, date, etc...

Zuck should just let Marques do their presentations. This was so much more enlightening and frankly convincing than the hour long meta keynote.

I totally agree with you and this is also the problem with Big tech now. The players have so much control over the market. I am a big believer in decentralization and if the market allows for meta to succeed in this endeavor we're going to have the same problem we have now of privacy violations as well as the negative effects of manipulation these tech giants have on society.

Our son is 22, works in the IT, is a gamer, bought a VR-set about 18 months ago and loved it. But now? Haven't seen him us it for a while ... The things he shows me are fascinating, but nothing I can imagine entering my daily life. Thanks for your effort!

I think the issue is that nobody wants to live in a world controlled by Meta / Facebook😂

The core concept of my workplace being made unthreatening and cartoonified and beamed directly into my eyeballs is just too dystopian to me and it always will be.

My god , MKBHD your production quality is insane! I saw your videos quite a few years ago, and I can't remember thinking of this fact, but now watching you, it is insanely good. 🙂

Wow, Marques, I haven’t watched a video in quite some time but I’ve been subbed for at least 7 or 8 years. You’ve grown up, you’ve become very successful. Your family must be proud.

I think Meta's biggest challenge will be getting over the invasive nature of AR. Like with the forcing to watch ads, it's going to be hard to convince people Meta's future isn't putting the exhaustion of the internet on your face 24/7.

Why anyone would trust to live inside a world projected by Mark is beyond scary.

I think augmented will be more of a everyday equipment. I like that the images are projected for the user instead of being displayed directly onto your eyes.

Excellent explanation, I am retired but trying to keep up with technology. I bought a Meta Quest 2 and see endless possibilities, especially for those aging in place. I've already had an 85-year-old neighbor buy one after I shared the experience.

I like how when we think of VR and AR on movies it's for entertainment or escapism, and the company pushing it the most right now wants us to have job meetings with it.

What I respect is MKBHD walking with Zuck and not flinching to criticize his ideas fairly! Respect! Thats what I expect from an honest creator!

Here after the vision pro was announced

I love that "upbeat futuristic music" is just (crazy good) daft punk remixes

You’re exactly right about the problem. As I was watching the video I kept thinking ‘Facebook is going to control all of this?’ And that thought makes me nervous.

You have a gift for explaining very complicated subjects to everyday people.

Damn...how you explain these things so well. You should be invited to every meetings of these tech companies.

Brilliant high-level view. You should definitely review Neuralink down the line, as in time, it will take AR/VAR to a whole different level...

this video is literally 100x better than all of other metaverse videos, announcements, keynotes added into one

My issue with Meta's idea of the Metaverse is just what you said: They are trying to copy everything from the real world to VR and thereby compete with already established workflows. Sure, one day VR-meetings will be better than Zoom calls, maybe when instant avatars + face tracking + body tracking have become a common thing. But for now, every Zoom call bears much more communication fidelity than a VR meeting. And that's the whole problem behind the idea of "copying everything to VR". My take (as a VR+UX researcher myself) is: Why don't we focus on areas where VR can actually enable us to do new things or make things easier? This way, we might not be replacing traditional pcs or other hardware soon, but VR can actually improve our life. For example, we're working on exergames that analyze the player's movements and correct wrong executions or tailor the experience to achieve better training results. This way, we could bring personal at-home training to the next level, because we combine gameplay+training+personal feedback. Or we could use this in PE, because we all know that teachers are always burdened by too many students. Would be cool to just give some students a headset where they can do a fun training activity that's completely automatically monitored. And the teacher can focus on the rest meanwhile. I think it's for these things where VR could actually make a difference. But not cringy avatars.

So Apple Just Copied Everything Here. No One Is Talking About That

Amazing explanation. Thanks for explaining clearly

I like real life a lot more. The special effects are insane. Incredible detail

Meta being able to track all your micro expressions sounds like a fantastic idea that will lead to a great future

If you enjoy VR/AR I think that it's a good thing. If anything, this is going to get more attention focused on VR as a medium and thus attracting more and more companies to develop in it. I think there is some validity of worrying about Meta tracking eye movements to force feed people advertisements, but people in general are becoming pretty savvy to those little hacky ways of corporations insinuating what they should be buying. I'm getting genuinely curious about the Valve Deckard.

RIP meta’s company value, I love that you dropped this before markets close

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I do game development independently and most of the time I do work remotely and connect my laptop to my desktop that way, however, this means that the monitor is usually smaller than the one I use at my desktop and I can only see 1 of the 3 monitors at 1 time so I think this would be very useful to have 3 monitors that I can fit in my backpack essentially.

great video, am with you 100% on one company controlling everything is not good for the people. I have a family member who facebook account got disabled for nor reason & since facebook also owns whatsapp & instagram, he has been locked out of all 3 apps without a possibility of getting in touch with support to clarify the identity & resolve any violations if any. Life isn’t going to end because of it but it’s not fare when you get kicked out without a possibility to defend yourself against bot acting as a judge and wrongfully accusing users and disabling accounts.

I'm just impressed that Marques is such a force that he warrants Mark Zuckerbergs time. What you have built Marques is just amazing.

I think AR/VR needs an open ecosystem, otherwise we will either have a monopoly/duopoly or many competing services that are not compatible with each other. If this grows as big as Meta is betting, it will probably get regulated in some way (like messaging intercompatibility), but it would be nice to have that early on.

Lol I think it’s pretty hilarious how he mentioned the one little pop-up “ask app not to track“ single-handedly has gimped Facebook business. Took down the giant entity like the Death Star

Respect to Marques to have fully watched the Meta keynote to sum up & simplify the thing for us

I work at a place that has online meetings with people from around the world. Despite meeting online literally all day, we dont even turn on our video. Hopefully this gives you a hint about how much actual workers who have to get things done care about these features.

Being VR fully immersed in a corporate meeting is the LAST THING I want to do. It's the last thing 90% of people in 90% of corporate meetings want to do.

Marcus, this is my first time watching your videos after hearing about you for some time, and I must say that I am enthused and refreshed by the way you present and convey ideas. Subbed.

The tech has to be as portable as a pair of glasses for AR to be mainstream. Do that and you can have apps that overlay walking maps, overlay prices on goods, info on locations, etc… That would sell like smartphones. (Which would link to you AR glasses.)

Metaverse kinda reminds me of the way people thought of the future back in the 1980's.

As someone who has tried VR a few times and has chronic migraines, I think another huge barrier to mass VR adoption is just how it makes people feel. For a lot of people, it leads to headaches and/or motion sickness. Even if Meta manages to make the tools really good and ethically run (which I really doubt), I don't see an obvious way around the fact that VR just hurts to use for a lot of us.

Came here after watching Marques' vid about Vision Pro. Apple really crushed it.

Lmaoooc Comparing this to the Apple headset a few months later is mind blowing. This looks like a toy in comparison

I'm an old VR developer from the 1990's (Superscape) and whilst the tech has come on leaps and bounds, the use cases have not. We were building training worlds, simulations for store layout, planning for buildings, HR apps for learning escape routes and all kinds of business uses, however there was no traction at all in the consumer space. It's not just the price, which of course is a barrier, it's just that it is easier to do daily things either physically or with a normal 2D screen. There is also a considerable embarrassment factor, you do look stupid in a headset and people are very self-conscious. It's no surprise that after Covid we all wanted to get back to physically meeting people, it's what we like to do. The Metaverse could also encourage negative aspects of the human condition; such as isolation, apathy and aggressive behavior. If you don't like this world, change it. Why bother with real people and the real world if you can make your own, and VR makes abuse so much more impactful. As always legislation and moderation will tail behaviour and companies will encourage extremes if it means more revenue. The big change in the consumer space may come with AR if Apple can do a good looking pair of glasses, and I could see AR glasses replacing the mobile phone for many people. But VR is always going to be niche for consumers (games) and its true home is in commercial training, simulation, data viz and health.

I can see VR working really well for stuff like real estate. Especially if the property is far away.

After watching the new Apple vision pro review video, then watching this. I can see the HUGE advancement in only a year. Interested in seeing the experience in the next 5-10 years.

Who is watching after Vision Pro release 😅

Beautiful beautiful review, insight and thoughts, I work for meta and I think this is super insightful! Keep bring it… huge fan! ❤

Content like this is what makes your channel so successful. Companies tend to communicate ideas like they've never spoken to people before. This was so clear and concise that I can explain it to someone else easily and quickly.

I am so happy you are honest and don’t care who is over your shoulder looking at you. Thank you!!!

Mate, I've barely reached the middle of this video and I've clicked the Like. This is a real Business class you have shared with us. Thanks for that! Greetings from Brazil!

I couldn't help but think, "Isn't this just an advanced version of Nintendo Wii". I was glad when you said something like that. But anyways, thanks for this video; I have a clearer perspective on what this meteverse thing is about now.

My issue with this is that it's obviously going to be a massive data-harvesting vehicle for these guys. You said, "you can lean over to your coworker and say something in a meeting" and yeah, that sounds realistic and interesting, but when I do it in real life, it's just me and that person. If I'm doing it in this Meta world, it's going into a microphone and then into my coworkers ear. So there's nothing stopping Meta from hearing me say, "Want to go get some pizza after this?" and then you've served up your own advertisement to them. More importantly, there's nothing stopping Facebook from providing a transcript of every single thing being said at this meeting to your boss. So if you lean over to a coworker and say, "This meeting is garbage. It will do nothing to help safety, this is only about padding their investors pockets." what is to stop your boss from hearing this? Nothing. There's nothing to stop the elimination of privacy here, and we need to stop this immediatly. If you have this in your home, there's even worse potential for privacy issues. It's absurd people are even considering this. It's bad enough that people have listening devices like Alexa, Siri, Google home, etc all built into their houses. This is trying to get into every corner of our lives. There will be no more "getting away" to relax. It'll be "relax, sponsored by Bud Light!" and everyone is diving right in.

The thing is the endgame of the metaverse is people avoiding reality and very likely suffering by obsessing over even more extreme escapism. Regardless of any perceived benefits in the end it's encouraging people isolating themselves which is already a major issue in society. I don't see how this will be anything but negative for mental health.

Who wants to wear that VR goggles all day? Can't last a hour!

This is so important and well said: if you understand 2:45 through 3:25, you basically understand business/marketing in the digital space.

15:12 "Like using eye tracking to make sure you see certain ads" - this actually gave me anxiety when you said this! Hopefully AR/VR really settles in on gaming, media, maybe some productivity by offering enhanced work spaces because I don't think I want to be a part of a world where I need to use a Meta headset to complete normal daily tasks (and be forced to watch ads while I'm doing it.)

I know this is something we would love to use at work…if only it wasn’t made by Meta. There is no way our data security team would EVER allow it 😅

I like the idea of a virtual computer screen. I’ve been envisioning a new way to use computers that involves more body movement/reaching to accomplish tasks instead of hours of being hunched over and clicking all day for your job.

Thanks for telling this and getting aware the people, now I am more calmed that you showed that if meta continues as the only one to develop the metaverse then is like the company ownership final of ready player one

This is by far the best demonstration of meta's tech I've seen thus far.

Damn, that alliteration though: "Man, Mark's Metaverse money might make Meta much more mainstream."

I love this channel! Recently, I have been wondering: who is waiting for Metaverse, actually? Whenever I hear or read about it, I always bump into the keyword "immersive." That sounds cool but WHO wants to be immersed? People whom I know, especially those who are active in blockchains, bet on *others" to be the future Metaverse users. No one wants to live in a matrix - but many want to make money on (imaginary) people who do.

Seems like most of the time doing your work in VR or AR would add to the work you have to do. Adding more animations, more details, is not actually the best for getting info fast and accurate or creating things without being an artist or computer programmer. What I'm saying is that most of the info I interact with, the most important info, the most helpful info, is all text based. Writing words remains king for the very reason that it is the most stripped down version of communication and yet also nearly unlimited in what can be created and described. A screen connected to the internet is extremely useful as it connects me to text more easily. I'm not sure VR improves on that. So why would I bring it into my work?

The biggest issues I see with Meta is their push to make the terms VR and Metaverse synonymous and the fact they seemingly want to replace life outside of VR instead of simply enhancing it, essentially bringing “The Matrix” to life.

Definitely the future! Just watching these I can imagine the solutions to some of my own nuanced challenges. Excited 🤞 8:00

Was a zuck hater but just placed my order for quest 3 after trying friends. It is fantastic

What I've found with VR is that people need to find their 'thing' and find it fast or the headset ends up on a shelf collecting dust. It sounds ridicolous to say this but the setup of putting the headset on, finding the controllers, probably booting up the device (which in reality takes 30 seconds) is eons compared to unlocking your always on phone. It's a physical barrier to entry measured in seconds that people don't want to waste. Beat Saber is that aha moment for a lot of new VR users but that'll get the average user to commit to maybe a month's worth of use, but then something incredible (or something necessary for work) needs to come next. E.g. if a native Google Earth app for Quest 2 came, that would be the non-gaming aha moment for the mass user base. For me, IB Cricket, it's the one app/game that brings me back to VR on a daily basis and has done for over a year. Everyone else I know who got a VR headset no longer uses it. The software it still mostly at an impressive tech demo phase.

appreciate your opinion at the end. as cool as some of this stuff looks, its aim is to monopolize your time, and seeing all the different integrations i start to feel sick thinking about people staying in the metaverse for so many hours

Two things come to mind when watching and thinking about this. 1) quest 2 blew my mind, only used it for a few weeks before it started collecting cobwebs. Friends kids were the same. 2) nothing has been able to replace the mech keyboard.....all this time later not a single challenger....which leads to the bigger picture, there isn't a replacement for the physical world. And spending too much time in the digital is already a lesson humanity has learned/learning

Commenting a year later since this video was uploaded and it's crazy to see the changes that have occurred since. Apple unveiled Vision Pro and has just been released to the public for purchase. Since Feb 8 2023 to today Feb 8, 2024, Meta stock has climbed 154%. Disney just pumped $1.5 bil into Epic Games. WB has entered a joint venture to create a metaverse called 'Readyverse' with Ready Player One author Ernest Cline. The metaverse is at it's inception still and there's a ways to go before it's adopted and used regularly with everyday people, but we'll get there "because of the economics" according to Matthew Ball. Just the idea of what it looks like when we get there is anyone's guess. Similar to defining what 'the internet' is back in 1995 and the way somebody might describe it today.

All those who have hands on "Apple Vision Pro" 🍎👀📽

Zucc looks so happy around 1:53, almost like a child showing their new cool toy to their friends! 🥺 Too bad it's a multi-billion dollar toy..

This makes me want to live and stay in the 90s when real life was still a thing.

This has to be the greatest overview of meta and what they have planned! Well done!

if metaverse company works very well on vr thingy, there's a higher chance that the other company will do the same as mark's do

From my point of view, it seems like VR could become dystopic fairly easily, while AR is just a very cool tool

This is the first time, (since this metaverse thing was launched) that I have genuinely understood what the whole thing is... Thank you.

I love going into the metaverse, hanging out with people from around the world. The graphics will improve and where else can I attend MMA fights and music concerts and even NASA space walks in an immersive environment from my home.

What would be sick is if VR would have a device that you set up in the room and it tracks your whole body. To along side your VR glass and other devices

I really like that you stook a stance against a metaverse monopoly, I wish more big tech creators brought up this concern!

What I love about working from home and zoom meetings with the camera off, is that I'm not forced to be physically present with others. This device is nightmare stuff for people who are going to be forced to be around people they don't actually wanna be around.

11:20 Ok, when this meta thing achieve this kind of fidelity on graphics in the metaverse then I'm gonna go for it haha Insane!

Vision Pro says hi. 👋🏽

During the conclusion -- you nailed it. Meta wants to be the ones laying the foundations, and to be ahead of the curve when others start entering the market (or dominating it). Apple entering the space would be pretty huge.

The thing with VR is that it seems to me like a high INT low WIS solution to problems you've described. As a programmer who works remotely just sharing a screen is more than enough for my meetings, and I can imagine people who work in other office-ish jobs just sharing a screen to share notes, make presentations or whatever. Humans are creative and most of all lazy. No matter how many money they pour to make a top-tier VR headset and all the technology behind it, humans will almost always prefer the simpler version, and Meta might realize too late that their solution isn't simple at all.

Who’s here after apple just dropped their VR/AR set

I'm past my mid 30s, have been working in IT and tech for many years, heavy Internet user since the 90s (for work, shopping, payments, information, research, education, entertainment you name it) my life is completely organised around the internet. When I was younger the social aspect of the Internet including chatrooms, forums, instant messaging, mmorpgs and social media was something which I found quite exciting (and I still do to a degree). I don't know if it's my age but I find the metaverse something that would be of absolutely no interest to me, so many things to keep me away: the fact that a privacy invasion mega company is behind it, the idea of wearing a heavy headset for hours which will give me a headache, being disconnected from the real world for hours, the cringy graphics, the fact that they somehow think that having a VR version of your business environment at hand is appealing. I am also the kind of person who hates receiving phone calls when an email or a text would do, let alone randomly receiving video calls when there is absolutely no reason to have the camera on. Especially when it comes to work I 100% prefer the communication method which is the fastest, most convenient and involves the least amount of interaction while the metaverse is aspiring to be the opposite of that. To sum it up, the metaverse makes no sense to me, so many concerns and so many tradeoffs for so little benefit.

Being a long time VR user, the biggest issue I see with it is how "deliberate" it is to use. Like you have to be in the mood to want to be in VR otherwise you'll be too lazy to set it up. I know this sounds like a small thing but trust me, if we're talking IRL use daily, you will find times where you'll decide it's too much of a hassle to set it up. Part of this is the size/weight/comfort of the actual headset, I do think if they manage to make a headset that is closer to just wearing glasses then it will solve this issue and more people will buy into it.

Awesome video thank you and your team for sharing that i learned something new

Very informative! Keep it up Marques!

I love that you ask the big questions, really makes me think about what the future has in store for us.

The fact that Mark essentially needs to force the very devs working on the metaverse to actually use the metaverse for meetings and such is all I need to know