I do not feel Gloria was playing at all when she said Tamika was jealous! Lady please! The look on her face was messy and catty! And IF she was playing that’s a very immature and unacceptable thing to say about one of your children to another one. 😡
yall is lucky if you was raised by mothers who didnt say crazy stuff like that. My mom treated me like I was her enemy since the day I got my first period. It's so weird. She legit would compete with me, put me down, beat me up almost DAILY for small things. Suddenly, when I got old and uglier due to aging she stopped being a hater lol. Maybe the same will happen to Tamika and her mama.
Yes my mother tried to pull that with me when I was younger! Saying I was jealous of my half brother who I suspected was taking advantage of her. I politely put my mom in her place and told her that was unacceptable! Tamika should set a boundary with her mother .Now when I feel my mom is taken advantage of? I say NOTHING!
@Jetblue Horizon You know that Tamika has been conditioned by her mother to protect Tocha at all costs. You know she is not going to do that because she knows her mother would completely disown her. Tamika deeply wants her mother's, unconditional love.
JetBlue you must not be watching and listening to the same show and RU-vid shows we watching LieTocha stole that girl money and they mama and her husband had they hands in the pot.
I’m with Kandi let everyone truth be told if it’s going to be a movie. Like Kandi have spoken on she has been so upfront and open about her and her life. So bring the honesty from everyone!
Both groups are great singers. But rhey both have had issues. Mainly with the lead singers. I hope they will get together ❤️ 🙏 😢!!!. I love all of their songs 🎵 ❤️. Let by gones be by gones and move on!!!. I am hoping that old song come back today. These songs today is not cutting it for me!!!.
The problem is Tocha will not own her truth, and likes to put the blame on others. She is pretending she is an up-standing Christian woman who can not do no wrong. She needs to humble herself and admit to all the shit she has causes to everyone's in the group, or nothing will get resolved and no movie will be done. You know Tocha don't want everyone knowing that she's a shit-stirrer and trouble maker. Anyway the girls are doing better without them.
She's a TLC Pebbles clone and I would bet my last dollar, Mona has been talking to Tosha and her mom, going behind the backs of all these ladies to get this BIO off the ground..you take my word
Tocha got on that stage during that great Xscape tour cause she felt like she needed them and she felt like they all needed each other. She got that solo deal and exposure out of their resurgence and don’t feel like she need them anymore. History just repeating itself
Yup. They r getting alot of exposure. I been rocking Xcape on repeat since the show. I am interested in the all the drama but I'm not on tosha side. I like her with them but not alone her energy is off. But I don't like her sister either. Love tiny and kandi
Absolutely, with these ladies, a bandaid was needed....its not up to the group to heal families. They're here to sing, get a check and go home. Mona could give two craps about these leadies, she just want her cut and that's it.
I think the “bandaid over the bullet wound” completely went over Kandi’s head. Mona was right. Consistently sweeping things under the rug (i.e. no resolution) will keep them stagnant where they are.
Kandi is smart she said I'm filming all this LOL so the world can see I was not the problem like some thought before. Thank god for the internet cause we didn't have it in the 90s. I'm a fan of the group and so invested in this show. There should also be a season two ijs! Please please do the movie ugh...🥰😋
Kandi you better watch Mona things she saying is skeptical, and don't make since, sounds like she agrees with Tasha, don't trust her, go back and listen to this back Kandi you will learn alot
It’s Mona’s responsibility to present and preserve all sides of the story. That’s how you develop captivating content. Therefore she has to uphold the integrity of all the perspectives involved, including indignant-ass Tocha.
Mona is behind the movie and this show.... She Will use all of this to promote the movie with out them, because if She get a deal with xscape for the movie, it Will cost Her a lot.
Mona feels that since she put this show with Xscape & SWV together, that she should be able to get the Xscape movie going. Kandi is right…. Don’t let her throw a movie together that makes you look like you were doing all kinds of dirt to get to the top and let everyone make themselves look good. Tocha got in Mona ear and Mona just wants to make money and try to act neutral when she actually isn’t 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ Don’t trust Mona girl 🤔 And when dealing with anything, it starts with the truth!!! For everyone 😒 And it looks like Tocha got to Mona first 😉
Well said spot on mona ain't shit and she didn't make up this idea show I believe she copied another show that SWV and Salt n Pep they had issues with Spinderella which feels like Xscape group 🤔
Thank you, Mona is a hustler and out to make some money off these girls and thier lives and I'm glad Kandi ain't having it. New Edition, TLC all had involvment in their BIO's, why Mona thinks she has the right to go solo on this project, is a bunch of BS
Yes ma’am Toscha absolutely got to Mona first! I don’t always agree with Kandi on some things, but this woman is a hater and is probably jealous because Kandi don’t kiss her ass….for lack of a better phrase….like some of the other women. Kandi better have her attorneys go over anything with Mona with a fine tooth comb.
It is sad. However, Tamika is strong and lands on her feet. Latocha appears to be the more vulnerable person. Sometimes parents cleave to and favor the needy child. Ms. Gloria also has her own issues- 5th member?, still angry with dad about divorce, etc.
I so love Kandi. I love the energy she represents. I've learned to love Tomekia. I love Tiny. Tocha is jealous, envious, and contradicting herself. Tocha came into each scene with an attitude. Makes you want to just push get to the side. Sad part was I was a Tocha fan at one point. Her energy turnt me off. Phony church fokes.
Absolutely, tocha is so jealous of Kandi and it shows. Kandi, poor thing got it coming from the ladies of Atlanta last season, and now got it coming from the group, all just jealous that this beautiful successful mogul got her IT flowing like the Nile.
It's funny listening to Mona try to fast talk Kandi about the movie haha. It was so clear that this movie has nothing to do with the girls, and everything to do with the fact that Mona sees dollar signs. The group is Hot again. I'm glad Kandi stood her ground and kept it real!! Mona, RELAX!!
Exactly, Mona is just an opportunist troll, like Pebbles of TLC, wanting to exploit these ladies for some easy money. But truth be told, I don't mind seeing a movie about how these ladies came to be, but every single inner city musical group, all got a story to tell and if it wasn't for this show and the exposure, I could care less about these ladies and their upbringings.
@@reemcfall Thank you, nobody and I mean nobody knows when, how and what time it is.... when it come to making money, than Ms Kandi. Mona is clearly over her head, she just don't know it.
@@neichelestevenson5342 Mona needs to step back and read Kandi's financial money making resumes....Kandi knows how to make a dolla holla her name, just sayin
It was a lot of shade in this. Mona seemed to be downplaying everything Kandi was saying & you can tell Kandi was getting annoyed. Mona must be bestfriends with Tocha or something?
I feel like Mona’s distance from the conflict allows her to consider an alternative reading of the argument, but Kandi has the benefit of years of background knowledge that can fill in the full context. Kandi’s probably right about Tocha acting different every time she has a solo deal, but Mona’s probably right that Tameka sending the text in a group chat, and Kandi liking it, turned a minor situation into something deeper. Tocha may have viewed it as a sudden shift in the established group dynamic, where now her sister is willing to speak up against her, with one of her “enemies” co-signing. But she’s too immature to vocalize the deeper issue, so now it’s “you body shamed me”
Ooooop mona was getting on her last nerve ...because she messy as always..but Kandi knows how to change brain it and keep it moving...and then get her together off camera...classy girl.
All these women, all of them have pristine voices....but none seem to fair solo.....so stick with a formula that's has worked and keep it moving, ladies.
The David Ruffin, the Diana Ross, The Beyonce Knowels, the Lionel Richie, the Michael Jackson, the Smokey Robinson, the Teddy Pendegrass, the ...need more? LOLOL
I LOVE KANDI AND HOW SHE HANDLED THIS INTERVIEW, AND THE POINTS SHE MADE ABOUT TAMEKA AND THE SITUATION WITH THEIR MOM CALLING HER JEALOUS AND THE MOM CLEARLY TAKING SIDES WERE WRONG AND VERY HURTFUL TO TAMEKA...... IT'S OBVIOUS THEY STOLE HER MONEY!!!!!! CONTINUE TO SPEAK ON IT KANDI I'M ALWAYS HERE FOR IT🙌🏾👌🏾🤞🏾❣
Sadly, Kandi's mom at one point took advantage of her....I remember one reunion her accusing her mom of opening up Credit cards in her name. Massive wealth brings out the worst in people.
Tamika very clearly said/inferred that she’s had the conversation about the money with their mom. 🙄 She even stated what the mom said to her (made excuses for Tocha) when she talked to her about the situation. Whew Chile, this episode should be called “In Latocha’s Defense …” 😮😕😒🤦🏽♀️🙄
Mona is talking some real stuff. I see Kandis point as well. I’m walking though healing now and some wounds take longer to heal than others. But everyone in this group must be in a place where they are even wanting to be healed and to forgive and move forward or it will never happen. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 I absolutely love how Kandi and Mona are navigating this convo!
Mona repeatedly kept trying to take up for Tocha during this interview. Mona knows Tocha is dead wrong but was more worried about her own image, looking good and didnt wanna get on Tocha's bad side by agreeing with Kandi. Mona is concerned abt her coins ONLY and making that Escape movie so shes gonna KEEP taking up for WRONG ASS Tocha. Smh
I didn’t see it that way. I actually liked that Mona gave a different perspective of the situation having worked closely with the group, both in managing and via the two reality shows. We’ve just become so accustomed to hearing everyone else’s viewpoint that paints Tocha as the villain. It was refreshing to me to hear Mona’s “outside looking in” opinion, and it made me realize that things may not be as Tocha vs. Xscape as I’d previously thought. There’s *years* of hurt and issues with Xscape, I really hope they can resolve them and reach their highest potential. I want another album with all 4 ladies!
Mona just has a difference of opinions... we can't throw pple under the bus just bc they are not falling with the masses. People don't always think the same.. I have learned we become smarter if we listen to the difference of opinions vs. judging bc there is a message in it.. I love people whose opinions are different and who don't go with the masses or against the grain. She's no groupie.
I love Kandi and her team. Baby Kandi ain’t gone back down when the truth has to be told. Mona seems like she trying make it seem like Tamika sister is not in the wrong to me. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Call a spade a spade when their wrong.
i swear i said that too! either that or she’s playing politics to get the movie going…can’t be bashing her or calling her out cause she IS foul and ask her to consent to a movie
Mona is team successful show. This is the problem, the whole team thing. Everyone can be celebrated without a slight to another. These ladies are 40+ this catty ish is ridiculous.
@@bkjane so people can’t have favorites! I respect Mona frfr..I’m a reality tv junkie and she gives what’s supposed be givin..imo I just believe..she’s has a softer spot for Tocha it’s all good though!
🎶I ride hard for #Kandi & I’ve been celebrating her since I purchased the very first #Xscape album. I didn’t really feel the vibe until I purchased the 2nd #Xscape album and I’ve been on the #KandiTrain since then and Housewives added to my love of #Kandi & I actually like #Tiny & #Tamika as well. 🎶
Who really cares about the way the locked dressing room situation came about? The employees shouldn’t have left with Tocha no matter what. They are employed by the GROUP not just one person in the group. 🙄😕
In watching all the discourse on the episode, everyone has mostly been “Tocha is the problem”, which I don’t disagree with; however, I did appreciate someone taking the time to view things from Tocha’s perspective and analyze why she might have become the problem. Obviously their default level of behind the scenes dysfunction, but we’re good on stage, is not working. So how do you actually heal? If every time a situation gets brought up, you’re back to square one with the argument, then you haven’t healed, you just stopped talking about it. Tocha definitely needs to adjust her attitude when approaching things, but it’s clear that she’s also uncomfortable with the shift in dynamic with her sister. Right or wrong, if something has been one way for over 40 years, it’s going to be jarring when that changes. Especially when you don’t have the emotional maturity to work through the real issue. That’s when you start grasping at whatever you can, to be “right”. Tocha is upset her sister has found her voice and doesn’t know how to deal, so she focuses on petty ways she try to look correct, “you body shamed me”
@USER1236630 i don't think there is a hate train .. latocha is the main one not wanting to work together. Which is clear as day . Yes they all have catty ways which is why I said I see both sides but kandi made great points as well but Mona wasn't listening . Mona is about the business And making money. Everyone wants to work together but LATOCHA 🤷🏾♀️🤣
@@USER1236630 but Tocha BEGGGED Kandi ! Begged & beeeged Kandi to come back to the group so she could use her relevancy so get back on . Now people remember Tocha name because Tiny & Kandi agreed to go back to the group now she has a solo deal again & actaing funny .. same shit she did in 1998. Tocha is the negative energy in this group. She is bitter because her looks overshadowed her great talent but it’s also that nasty attitude is what holds her back.
@@USER1236630 Hey Tocha! Yes she did begged Kandi to get with the group. There's a literally a clip showing her beg Kandi to come back so they can get to the bag. Tocha is the TOXICITY in the group! It's because of her why the group has issues, she wanted to be a solo star and is jealous of Kandi for her success 😒
I see where Kandi is going,she is right. Look stop talking about Kandi she is not the only one with drama air everybody else laundry. Mona had some valid points.
“Tamika has been Tocha’s ally.” 😒 Yeah, an ally in her WRONGDOING for years. Might I add, to the detriment of Tamika anddd the group! It’s cool as long as she’s doing that, but as soon as Tamika takes accountability for the mistakes and bad decisions she has made now she’s the villain of the family. Chile please! 🙄
Kandi has the MOST contagious laugh!! And XSCAPE won that versus, hands down. But Tiny was right because I want to hear album cuts - like Work Me Slowly- at a show. 😊
@@toreydevon2751 nah. They said album cuts are songs on the album that aren’t singles. Tiny said songs on the album that everyone loves and she called them fan favorites. Honestly, besides the album that Kandi wasn’t on, I’ve never heard any songs of theirs that didn’t make the album
I like how Mona tried to glided over how Ms. Gloria may have been blindsided by Tamika’s accusations or how she felt! And how they type out what she said by saying “SHE JEALOUS” Mona has to continue to stay neutral but the reality is…It gave…That was not Ms. Gloria’s first time hearing anything that Tamika said out her mouth! She was just caught off guard that Tamika said it in front of the cameras, in front of guess and for us to see on national tv!!!…Kandi as well said a lot without really saying what it really is…Kandi made the commented more than once, that she was surprised that Tamika spoke up for herself because NORMALLY she just says nothing and brushes it off!!!…That says that it has happened more than once and Tamika never says anything!! I also feel like with Mona being on the show she has to stay neutral between Kandi and Tochia as being the “Boss” per say to not take a side…I get it!!!…But I wonder when Mona is saying it out of her mouth do she think to herself “This is some BS!!!” Because I’m not saying Kandi is always right but Tochia comes off as being on a power trip!!
They have definitely talked about the alleged incident. She said "You knew about it Mama." Tamika was so loyal that she didn't want 2 put it out there. & she was the least regarded in thier relationship as sister, mother & daughters because she's the younger sister!!! To Tamika... stay true 2 who's loyal 2 U! Love your family... However, set boundaries!!! I'm still learning the same!!! Much ❤ 2 all yall!!!
Ok Mona with what you're saying, It seems to me that you should be having this conversation with Tosha. If someone is the only one that can't go along to get along & your the only one that creates the problem, then obviously you are the problem. Period. I believe Mona is trying to create 1 side to a 2 side coin, she can make her coins..... Cause I don't know about anyone else but I am just to exhausted with Tosha & her shenanigans.
Mona talks to all of them that's why she says they ALL need to talk. She's not taking sides and she shouldn't. She worked as their manager and had relationships with all. She KNOWS them.
Don't mess this up for us Mona we want to see a biopic and we want it as good as New Edition's!!! Stop making excuses for Tocha's behavior and hear what Kandi is saying .
I agree with Mona, if you have truly forgiven a person you do not get agrivated or upset whenever what was done or said comes up. Because you have dealt with it and forgiven it. I also agree with Kandi that if each group member is not willing to speak their real truth then it makes no sense she do a movie telling all her truth.
The movie's narrative.....4 inner city chics get a record deal, two sisters plot against Kandi to become top dogs, and they plot to take over the group....next?
There is a level of responsibility that a mother should take, when always siding with one child!!!…The mother knew what it was and and it appears that per usual she dismisses Tamika’s feelings!!!
Mona is “great” producer I guess but… she is also an expert deflector and minimizer. She has a beautiful way of swerving around the truth or reality to project an alternate reality for entertainment purposes. I would not trust her with my life story of personal relationships AT ALL.
@Kandi … at this point I’m SICCUD!!! Sis start auditioning for a replacement for Tashonce’. We thee fans are tide (yes, tide) and just want the music we know and love from Xscape. 😩 Also, this was cute but we’re ready for you and THE DJ A-one to review this show hunni! 😂😂😂❤❤❤
They really do need to do a reunion tho. I think Mona was right when she said they sweep stuff under the rug a lot. Like how you resolve things and you dont talk about it? I think if there is a season two they need to go on a retreat to resolve issues. The sisters situation is sooo deep since its family, thats whole situation in itself. LaTocha got to let go of that ego.
The problem I have with Mona..is that..Yes.. it's good to confront each other about issues maybe even on a show...but what you don't take into consideration Mona..and you do this with all your shows... Most people who get into these confrontational situations might not yet be in a healed place/Done therapy and therefore does not have the TOOLs to handle the conversation in a constructive Way. So it ends up causing more pain and suffering for everyone involved.
Other than a money grab, I don't understand why even do a show with all this bagage following you? Just because opportunity knock$$, doesn't mean you have to answer the damn door ladies.
😂😂😂 tiny is tryin to keep that peace and be funny at the same time I can’t with tiny she makes you forget about the drama for a minute she’s too cute and 😂😂
Love Mona Scott Young. She’s sees the dysfunction in the group & wants them well. I think the group working w/ Iyanla Vanzant & a therapists could really help them start their healing energy. They are worthy of happiness & healing 💖
Loving the show and also hoping that tameka and tasha can work out there differences and move forward forgiveness is everything you all have grown to be successful women and are very talented so u please give us fan's what we want and that's more Xscape music kandi,tiny and le please help get these sisters together
For me, this whole conversation demonstrated the need to have hard conversations. A therapist would be the best place to mediate these issues because there is so much to uncover and so many feelings/perspectives involved that they would not be able to hear each other on their own.
Mona putting everything on tamika. the mama has accountability as well. Tamika shouldn’t have to tell her mother that it hurts her feelings that’s she is siding with the person who stole her money. Tf. That sounds ridiculous. 🤦🏾♂️
Mona needs to make them do this joint tour!!!! I loved seeing Xscape in concert when they got back together, but to see both groups together would be phenomenal!
I held off on watching this and I'm glad I did. This is a great interview. I think Kandi should think about the way the Frankie Lymon movie was told. I think this is what Mona was alluding to when she said everyone's story and perspective will be told.
Ok, kinda long rant but I had watched this video RIGHT before I seen the second episode and I had almost a visceral reaction about Mona Scott Young. When I initially watched this interview I appreciated Mona’s perspective with the context of being privy to a lot more information, then we as viewers have AND Kandi. I can see why Mona has been sucrssull and will probably continue to be successful, I think she is correct in a lot of the statements she made about interpersonal relationships. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was a Psych/sociology major, or been in intensive therapy herself for years. However she can sit back and say all the right things, when she has ALL the information, she has way more interest in the exposing of the issues rather than the resolution of the issues, if she can profit out of it. She’s ok with monetizing the exploitation of friends, family members, business partners, or any and all interpersonal relationships turmoil and the inability to form healthy boundaries and effective communication skills. It’s a formula. It works. I’m here for it, and her ability to sleep at night regardless of the of the real life ramifications that her productions bring about to MILLIONS of people who are able to share their opinions based on what she has produced, has and will continue to provide me countless hours of entertainment no matter how cringy I think the exploitation is, this is in NO WAY a judgement on her morals or ethics; mine are WAY too questionable to judge anyone. But just an observation that she has mastered the art of dealing and manioc the talent to produce profit and any collateral damage that may occur no matter how severe is irrelevant to her. Contrasting that with Kandi who is NO FOOL, and has been immersed in these type of productions for so long, compounded with the decades of working in show business period, someone else conducting this same interview with Mona could have easily been chewed up and spit out. ALL that to say I gave Mona, the benefit of the doubt that her seeming she was going above and beyond defending Toscha, and trying to get her point of view across and understood, basically standing in for Toscha to defend and challenge what Kandi was saying, and to provide more context, was her just trying to be neutral and not let it come off as she was on there allowing and condoning Toscha, to be talked about by someone with such a long, intimate, complicated relationship with. I saw a lot of comments about Mona doing a spring off with Toscha, which is why she going so hard for her and other comment to that effect, and thought that was also logical, but just couldn’t imagine like a solo reality show about Toscha that didn’t involve xscape really doing anything. But after tonight’s epidsode, my opinion is Mona knows Toscha is going to get an EXTREMLY FUCKED UP edit this year rather deserved or not. Mona knows Toscha is going to come off looking terrible, they are seeing the shows in real time like us. I think Mona is strategically going hard for Toscha, so that Toscha is validated in her views, thoughts, opinion, behavior when the public ultimately turns against her. This is manipulation at its finest and the only goal for Mona is to create a situation where she IS the only option, for Toscha, maybe not the only but eventually to only one that will make sense. She is creating this villain for reality tv through the final edit, and when said reality character sees her publicly going to bat for her against Kandi of all people and a few days later see the show and how terrible her and her husband are looking, she isn’t going to blame Mona. She’s going to beleive Mona is the ONLY person who understands her point of view, this is intentional grooming. I almost feel bad for Toscha, I think she is a troubled soul, a life time of insecurities, low self esteem, gaslighting, unresolved trauma is one a thing. But you compare all that with an ENORMOUS amount of talent, the likliehood of you being taken advantage is pretty strong. From her husband to Mona and I’m sure countless other people throughout her life have probably been able to inflict abuse on her, I think that also contributes to her overall negative, bitchy demeanor. Hurt people, hurt people and usually the ones who they are closest with ie: Tamika. Mona sees longevity in the Xscape gravy train, so grooming Toscha by publicly challenging Kandi, to make Toscha feel validated increases the likelihood that Toscha will continue to contribute to that gravy train. I have a strange feeling Toscha is going to look worse and worse every week, until she is nothing more than a your run of mill reality show villain. If fans blame her for Xscape not being together they are NOT going to support her solo endeavor. All she will have is whatever Mona has to offer, that will either attempt to redeem her or solidly her villain status but it will ONLY be attached to Xscape!
I LOVE how diplomatic Mona was with her responses. Clearly she’s able to explain everyone’s actions based on the situation’s emotions…that’s a therapist (Counselor) for you.
Kandi was getting frustrated with Mona's perspective because her main objective is to defend the show. Mona has no advice or money to contribute to the aftermath of life and BRAVO definitely should offer therapy for the group and family!!!!
Mona gets on so many of your nerves bc she doesn't take sides! She is a beast! She's not siding, she's not messy and wre need more of her in this world, period. Yall thought she was going to join the groupie stuff but she didn't play into it. She's smart and isn't the normal... pple hate that
Fun Fact: the first Verzuz stage performance with 2 ppl performing side by side who used their own DJ has to go to them Jamaican artists Beenie Man vs Bounty Killa cuz that was during COVID time in 2020. The national anthem was played, all that. Swizz + Timbo realized the benefits of doing it that way.
Mona acting like she’s on Tocha payroll. WE ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED! And TAMIKA TALKED TO HER MOM BACK WHEN SHE FOUND OUT AND HER MOM TOLD HER TO LET IT GO AND MAYBE HER SISTER NEEDED IT MORE THAN SHE DID! Tamika said this on her RU-vid channel. Her mom never held Tocha accountable AND IT SHOWS!
Nothing can top TLC and New Edition, sorry.....I like Xscape, but other than two sister's with killa pipes hating each other, I don't see a story that' isn't already being played out already!!
