Spec Ops: The Line - I: How to Restart a Franchise - Extra Credits 

Baraon Gallegos Wow, I had a similar thing with it :3 I used the game and the Book for my essay in graphic and web design. At first my teacher didn't get why I would choose a Shooter game for the topic I took. The topic was "Overlay Worlds" and I made a presentation with drawn graphics and a Web-Video overlaying Art Style Scenarios of the Book compared to the Video Game :3 A++ for the project and my Teacher took it as example for the Next Generation Classes :D

+Baraon “BaraonCat” Gallegos Thanks for sharing that! I wish I could put big flashing neon lights around your posts for critics who constantly drum on the theme of "the non-value of Video Games" Here's looking at you, too, LordBloodySoul.

Heart of Darkness is a short book...

Lol I wrote my thesis on a similar topic, comparing it to those 2 and with the old breed at peleliu and okinawa

Unfortunately this game didn't do too well commercially, so other studios may not be inspired to create a similar game.

+Nvhl34 In today's environment, the game would have done so well. Reviewers have changed what they look for in the past few years, and this game would definitely get awards.

I've heard it did sold well later on through word of mouth and eventually became a cult classic

+Justin Cage56 Then a sequel is still possible!

The General I rather that not make a second one. There is no real reason to, and it will undermine the game's endings

ZanderDogz oh,OH OHHHHHH

Too soon. :(

"Like Shit"?

Zelousmarineinspace No...just no.

Justin Stone Why? *I* felt like shit playing it.

Zelousmarineinspace Oh i'm sorry. I thought you met that the games was shit.

A masterpiece. I literally gifted GTA V because I felt terrible when killin a cop.

Except Red orchestra 2: heros of stalingrad. Try it before you reply. It is multiplayer focused though (just a warning)

Zelousmarineinspace Ohhh yeah...RO2 literally is one of the most immersive multiplayer games. It freaks me out when a bullet lands right next to me; I immediately dive down when that happens fearing for my characters life.

Pretty much it. It's already after Willie Pete scene where any sensible player should realise 33rd are the closest to beign the good guys here. But Walker refuses to admit it, and rationalize to push further, creates himself imaginary friend to guide him, even goes along with Riggs plan, despite knowing what he's up to, just to prove he's not the villian here. It's clear he's losing it, note how in late game he no longer mantains trigger discipline, during combat he curses, screams and even cheers killed enemies ("Heavy is fuckin' down!"). Not to mention devs clearly mess with player. Most notably one is when you get killed in late-game, there's chance instead of loading screen you see Walker where he was before combat started, just shaking his head and saying "what the fuck..." as it was all just hallucination.

It’s psychological horror

"Do you feel like a hero yet?"

+Nomang I will never look at a video game the same way because of this line...

+Jake Long I just bought it myself. I knew about the game and had read some reviews when it came out, but guess what... I thought it was just CoD clone and didn't bother. Oh well. at least I saved some money.

+Jake Long I feel like renting it (I have 2 family videos in my city so i should be able to get it) but I really don't want to wait until the weekend to go get it before watching the next video.Damn it I think i might have to get it spoiled.

I loved Madoka Magica, and I really liked this game's story.

Yeah, basically had to exist.

You know what? Never thought about that. Good job pointing that out, man.

CaitSeith Except he admitted himself he realized he wasn't actually sure what he was talking about and apologized.

Randy Williams He died of health complications at least a year ago.

+Joe Jacques For what it's worth, Roger Ebert was doing his thing when video games had all the emotive capacity of a wrist-watch, so that's probably how he continued to see them. Add to that, being the 'thumbs-down' guy was kindof his shtick, anyway, so we may never know if that's how he really felt, or not.

I know this was a year ago but a lot of this game's excellence is only apparent if you have an understanding of common modern military tropes in video games.

Out of curiosity how has your adventure gone?

did u like the game?

xXSwaglordXx Sadly, I haven't found a copy of it yet, nor have I found time to look.

+Lepidolite Mica I just finished the game . Man it was hell of an experience the story was soo good never expected this kind of story from this game if find some time play this game u will not regret it

Lepidolite Mica Since you say you haven't found a copy I am going to assume you are a console gamer. Why not buy it from the console's online marketplace?

That's kind of my view, I thought it was fun but then again, I can't really compare it to anything since the only game even close to a 3rd person shooter I've played is Kid Icarus Uprising. LOL.

That sounds cool and all....but it would be complete hell for a developer.

That could be good.... If the guys who were the heart behind the game hadn't left Telltale.

Lol Telltale fucking died.

Oof this didnt age well

TheBrazilRules money.

Developers wanted to make only single player mode, but publishers demanded multiplayer, so they had to put it.

***** Sounds about right of Modern Day Media

WolfiePro1 Yeah. Thats how it goes.

You would not be alone. Alot of people bought this game for a 4th of July special for their Let's Play channel, thinking it was an America-hoo rah kind of game. You can imagine that the game completely blind sided them.

That sounds very funny

They didn't say anything about white phosphorus, other than it is brought up in game.

Yes, but they still mentioned it, and if anyone was curious they would look it up, and if they already did, they'd know how it works.

You nailed it. It was the only way to get the point across. If the gameplay was as exciting as bioshock or something then it just wouldnt have worked. It seriously gets to the point where you dread combat. You dont want to fight anymore and thats the point

I agree with you- and I do tend to atleast play most shooters trying to stretch out of the norm. Spec Ops' story was very Silent Hill-esque but badly done, by that I do not mean it was bad. It was alright- the gameplay sucked very badly tho.

Ali Agreed about the gameplay part, though I guess that was how they wanted to force you to get out of the game. Then again, when Konrad says the most spoilerly line at the end, he kinda refers to the gameplay as well. "But on you marched, and for what?" I'm guessing this kinda refers to the gameplay. The clunky, bad-ish gameplay that makes it harder to play through the game, harder for most who aren't used to shooters and, maybe, even some people who play lots of shooters. "You're here because you wanted to feel like something you're not. A hero." As a player, you played the game wanting to become the hero, marching through the mechanical disadvantages and all that jazz, only to be rewarded with a kick to the stomach.

I see what you're saying, but I disagree completely. If I raise a comparison to a book for a second- a book is never badly written to make a point. Characters are sometimes given a first person line of dialogue which can include accents/their lack of english/etc to have a unique touch to that line of text- However, reading a line of dialogue written with a unique flare is completely different to the way in which a whole video game can feel like a pain to play. I'd argue the game would feel more immersive if it was smooth to play- heck I dont even think its about immersion to some degree, the level design and enemies were bland too. I know there are examples like Silent Hill in which the character is hard to control- and that adds tension to the game. But in Spec Ops' case- since its supposed to be a game of full murdering and the thoughtlessness behind it (till the end)- maybe a smooth gameplay design in which I can kill people and have more fun would have actually lent to the story too. Just my two paragraph cents, thanks for giving me a decent conversation on youtube ('tis a rare and beautiful thing)

Ali Indeed. Still, the whole bad gameplay point stands somewhat, but the book example knocks it flat. Maybe if the mechanics of the game were the 'clunky' GOW-style of fun then maybe they would have a solid point there too. Nevertheless, it's a nice breath of fresh air from all the other shooters that paint you as the hero and always the hero, never wrong in any decision with perfect gameplay to make you feel like a hero. Then again, they did it well in SH, maybe a sort of tweaking could have been done to improve Spec Ops? I dunno for sure but thank you too.

***** definitely agree on that- was a breath of fresh air as the story starts developing. I think the dev's should get a sequel or it'd be a crime!!! they could definitely do so much good man..... SOOOOO MUCHHHHHHHHHHH

If Patton cried over this game this is one fucked up game.