Special Ed Reaction: Was NWA Used To Poison The Black Community? 

Facts.

Good point

Can you tell me where I can find that article, fam?

Too Short Krazy Bone and other artist said that pale record exects will only sign or deal with you if you ONLY use the gang lifestyle narrative.

Exactly💯 and nobody wants to come at them only at each other.

But the music industry isnt anything without the artist to profit from & the artists are all too willing to take that money to rap how they do. Just the same as people who are willing to sell drugs to people in their own community to profit from. They don't care about the negative effects that has. Its just another hustle for self.

FBI destroyed the Black Panthers. Then after came pinning black people against each other. CIA followed by putting drugs in the black community.

100% truth.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx yeah if they had a secret meeting to only destroy rap music and sign rappers to rap negative but not white music, then yeah iits the industry's fault, wtf you on? You brainwashed mfs can't never see the true enemy. Lupe Fiasco said they came to him and told him they weren't putting his album out cause his lyrics weren't damaging enough, nows he's black balled and his fans had to protest for his album to come out, meanwhile Lil Durk, King Von, and FBG Duck was in full rotation. Learn the game then come holla at me.

TRUEEE

I'm glad Lord Jamar gave Ice Cube's solo records a shout out instead of claiming conscious rap with a message went extinct after NWA. Doggystyle was 1993? Blunted on Reality was 1994. 90s was filled with all styles of rap covering all topics, including conscious/political

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cxit was out by 93 he’s right. Cause everyone after that was trying sound more hard and go gangster. The term studio gangsta I’m sure came after NWA. Why would there be the need for studio gangster by record labels pressuring artist to go hard have a fake hood life story and all that just to sell records. Or fake beef? It was the NWA effect that happened and that conscious hard rap was out by 93. Even ice cube suffered from that with his albums after 92. He had to remain on gangsta music to sell after that.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cxit was out meaning it wasn’t cool to be a conscious rapper. And if you remember the movie menace to society. Pac was supposed to play the conscious character in the movie but he wanted Larenz Tate role as O-Dog. That’s why he got into the fight with the huges brothers the directors of the movie and beat them up because he felt the conscious character role was corny and would ruin his new gangster rap image. Remember Pac was rapping political and conscious before he went to death row. As time went on his style got more edgier and gangster. So that alone tells you being conscious was being played out by 93. 94 it was a wrap. It wasn’t the popular move to be that back then. Conscious rappers where now being considered underground and not mainstream or hip hop ppl wanted to hear.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx The influx of rappers trying be hard and record label’s trying push rappers to be hard to the point they even pushing rappers that’s not about that life to be hard studio gangster with fake made up background stories of them growing up in the hood when some was raised in hood homes or the suburbs never sold a drug in their life or bust a gun is the point. That’s the point. That’s the NWA/Death Row effect. That’s his exact point. It wasn’t a few rappers it was every rapper at that time. Even Wu Tang had to change their style. Ppl forget RZA ODB and GZA who are all cousins was Rhyming a different style like kid n play and Hawaiian Sofi style music before they formed Wu tang. Jay-Z wasn’t rhyming gangster ish in the 80’s. He was making Hawaiian Sofi. The shift in hip hop after NWA is the point. It’s all the point.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx the point the conscious and other hip hop sub genres got drowned out to where the younger audience at the time didn’t wanna hear anything positive or rap that wasn’t hardcore or gangster. Which that became the standard later on in years to come to enter in the rap game as a thug or gangster. You couldn’t enter in as any other type of hip hop artist until Kanye arrived. You couldn’t be a back pack rapper or party rapper and survive in the 90’s and early 00’s. You had to come hard or go home back then. Ppl don’t get how it was back then. That’s what you missing.

Public Enemy also had a song on their album called "Raise the Roof" where he openly says "...accepted as a communist / Claimin' fame to my name as a terrorist" P.E. was the start of the B.S. we now known as "BLM"

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As if gangster disciples wasn't started in the 70s... Stop looking for a quick answer for a long duration issue

@@legendfrom8141 Right. It was violent local gangs in EVERY major city. And the LA Gangs only migrated so that they could sell a lot more govt funded crack. It ain't have sh*t to do with music or movies. These surface level ass takes are ridiculous. Let's let Reagan off the hook and yell at Ice Cube for writing about what he grew up in.

@@legendfrom8141 Gangster Disciples wasn't rappers. The topic was promoting it in Hip Hop and Entertainment. Also gangs wasn't killing each other over colors back in the 70's, they was protecting the community

@@truthiscensored gangster culture was slowly brewing+ crack epidemic 80's+ the lady's are strong independent don't need no man + no man, no daddy at home= chaos... Wasn't no one thing that ruined the blk community.

Yup exactly

The Problem was around before NWA !!! Cube and Eazy was just telling the truth about the reality in our inner cities

Nwa gets criticized because they were the most popular. It’s almost like it’s some east coast hate. No one mentioned g rap, schooly d, steady b, bdp, etc. all had so called gangster rap but don’t get mentioned as helping destroy the black youth

​@jayman3915 that exactly what it is

Soooo.... Straight Outta Compton was just outta control too?

But we can when the powers that be is using your music as a conduit to glorify negativity nothing positive ever came out of gangster rap just as nothing positive comes out of hoe culture, it destruction at the end of the day. NWA didn’t use that lifestyle as a teachable moment to sway the youths away from it, they glorified it and promoted it. And I’m not saying that they are the only ones that pushed negative trash in the rap culture but they are definitely top 2 as far as impact.

I disagree fam. They were making it up. None of them were in the streets. Because of them, the average person wanted to be a gangster.

Everything wasn't about what they saw 💬

There is a difference between what you saw and lived thrue and glamorize it. They glamorize all the negativity in the black community

The message can be destructive if its not constructive.

Gansta rap was the infomercial for selling crack

I think had positive songs exposing system and putting people up on game. NWA also had detrimental music that glorified ignorance and disrespect black woman

​@@johnbarnesNnaptown86 through 89 In order to get Paid In Full you gotta be Criminal Minded, N's With Attitude, Dont disrespect the Colors I choose Now we got a crew We on the Road To The Riches. " There programs running around everywhere. The ones doing what they suppose to do, you don't even know they are there." The Oracle describing the Matrix.

@@hershelfowler6257 One and the same Everyone came in the same chains Caught with the same aim Brain games and names changed To protect the innocent by-stander Lies, slander and the master-planner Destroy the black male In packed jails and semi-automatic For static over crack sales.... Def Jef we're all in the same gang (1990)

Thank you.

Stop that’s not tru

​@@thenowwhatshow4142it is true clown, what rapper spoke on that before nwa???

@@jasonmoore2994 lol so we only know shit if a rapper speaks ok it ??? lol

And you listened to it

Yep! I'm 44 and remember da whole shit. Sun was 100% accurate and I'm actually FROM CaLi so I had a frontrow view of the paradigm shift out here. The music created a vicious cyclone of negative winds that hovered over the hoods like rainclouds, perpetually brewing toxic energy, toxic interactions, and toxic outcomes. Those of us that had the basic sense to see it were marginalized. And those that *didnt have the basic sense to see it got brainwashed by the veritable abnormal-normality of it, leaving them hypnotized in a stupor of non-self-awareness. Basically, the waters that the blind poured on NWA's seeds grew the Jungles of Chicago! Some of us saw Chicago comin back in 91....

@vandshome @Yes indeed and I couldn't understand why my father took it from.

Lol no

Dre and Cube were not Gs. I’ve Cube wrote those raps as a good kid. What was authentic about that?

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx authentic means to be genuine. You just confirmed neither Dre or Cube were authentic gangsters so what was authentic about them? Eazy’s clout?

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx when I mean by authentic is being something outside of the norm. Everyone had their own lane in 80s and 90s

Wth are you taking about

@@mgomez9736 you know what I'm talking about!!

@@june7gemini you don't know what you're talking!!

​@@june7geminiThat facts facts you have NYC in your name speaks volumes, another hating New Yorker.

true

Facts. There was no pill popping and synthetic drug use in lyrics prior to the introduction of Mr. Marshall Mathers aka Slim Shady!! Yet people will say that it's hate because Em raps better than you favorite "Black" rapper which is also another narrative pushed upon our people and culture.

Yeah but they won't say nothing against the white boy because they know they have to make some money....

Stop deflecting, nwa started the degeneateShit in rap

@@LemonySnikkettt True. A lot of things are marketed to the masses through music and television

KRS one's 1st album was called CRIMINAL MINDED (1987) I saw no NWA then😢

​@@AssistantToTheHNICfacts. They are just mad because someone other than them blew up with the gangster style

@@AssistantToTheHNIC 9mm Goes Bang.....while he is on the cover flashing a GUN with Scott La Rock, I guess there was no destruction then because KRS is for the youth SMH

@@jman1562001 look at who fires the shot. Special Ed is Indo Jamaican. A man who is basically the male version of Kamala Harris in lineage. Literally. One parent from India. One parent from Jamaica. No Black American/Freedmen/FBA/Black American lineage AT ALL NYC is ground zero for immigrants, especially from the Carribean. So when they say "NY business" it's a way to shut out the chattel slave/Freedman descendants that are the kin of those inside in NY they're wrestling from. Not accidental.

Cube's stance at the time of Straight Outta Compton was more like Huey P Newton hooking up with Tookie Williams. He was reporting LA living coupled of instituted racism handed down via Donald Gates & the infamous LAPD. NWA's rise in Hip Hop wasn't entirely coupled with misogynistic tendencies, gang references, 40oz drinking, and gun-toting. It was a mirror image of what went in South Central/Compton

Cube's 1st solo album was mixed with some gritt but it most definitely wasn't the same stuff they or he was kicking on NWA albums. "I DON'T BANG, I ROCK THE GOOD RHYMES!! THE WHOLE SCENERY REMINDED ME OF GOOD TIMES" And had his "political" sh!t on there. Far from NWA

But then everyone starting making the same type of music. Talking about selling drugs, shooting and hoes. There was no balance after nwa

Exactly NWA didn't even talk gang politics in their raps, and they didn't even wear the colors. The Gangs got Spreaded because different people from La was going to different cities and setting up shop.

@@georgehudson5019facts.

​@@georgehudson5019Exactly

It wasn’t Ice Ts movie. He was just on the soundtrack. Dennis Hopper made that movie with actors and some real gangbangers that was already banging before the song Colors came out.

@@melhardy5909 Niggaz didn't go to the theatre to see Dennis Hopper though. We all were eager to watch it because of Ice T.

One of the greatest albums of all time

​@@HARRIS2820yea but the negative of that second album

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xcyou call the Truth negative ? F the Police was Real

​@@NorthPhilly-zr7xcYall got a rapper named Beanie Sigel, every word that man rapped was negative man FOH😂😂. Eastcoast bias/hater

​@@NorthPhilly-zr7xcOH you quiet now clown

Ice T glorified sex trafficking aka pimping.Also selling Drugs.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx the point wasn’t missed but if whyte supremacy didn’t exist the gangsta music would have never existed.

@brucestill1248 The topic wasn't about "gangbanging". It's about the production of TOXIC MUSIC being used for PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE to undermine the Black community.

As a person that was born and raised on the West Coast I agree with you being a total idiot

Based on what?!?!? He wasn't specific AT ALL. NWAs 2nd single was "Express Yourself" .. GTFO .. freebase was around in the 70s .. New Yorkers can never look at themselves .. same cats said the South ruined hip hop

​@AssistantToTheHNIC Bruh get out your feelings and grow up. NWA is a great group however some of the things they did were wrong. Put your biasness and emotions to the side and think logically for a moment.

You probably smoke crack

Watch ice cube last breakfast club interview he actually agrees with special ed he said they didn't know they would be exploited by the industry they was just trying to make local underground music that would be in the comedy section with Richard Pryor they wasn't making music for mainstream

Greatest rap group of all time

amd crack kills. thank you for coming to my tedx talk

​@@kreativeforce532the same crack Jay-Z was selling and Nas. Wasn't they doing math calculations about how they were moving Cocaine?

@JaiAnthony-zg5cx LA was banging long before NWA. NWA didn't take bloodin and crippin to other cities, bloods and chips did.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx ask your mother!

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx You can count the number of Hip Hop Billionaires on one hand. I don't know where YOU are from but in America Black people under segregation had our own business Sector, Sports Leagues, Hospitals, Schools in short we had an economic base. Integration and the false belief that Whites would stop attacking us if we integrated led to our current condition. We basically destroyed our own economic base by following the leadership of Boule puppets off a cliff. Unity and Accountability just became our problem here since the 1970's we are unique from Black people from other places. Part of the problem is that we have allowed everyone to project upon us their failure and colonized mentality when they land in America. They separate their accomplishment under their national flag and their criminality, dysfunction and failure under the label "Black". We are putting an end to that. As you can see we are not perfect, we got bamboozled into Integration and fleeced but we are waking up. With our economic base restored we can reverse the destruction of the family that was done as a result and we can control our image. Our biggest problem is that we willingly participate in an anti Black system that cannot exist without our Willing participation economically and socially.

And RESPECTFULLY ... was WU TANG 4 da children 4real ... dey was sniffing ALL OVA' dem traxxx

All everyone saw was dollar signs, not saying it was right but think about how these guys (the artists and producers) were living either broke or just over broke so it was easy to entice them with extra digits on that paper. Again that's American capitalism really it's American "GREED" (the actual name for capitalism in this country) 🎤 Drop!

All everyone saw was dollar signs, not saying it was right but think about how these guys (the artists and producers) were living either broke or just over broke so it was easy to entice them with extra digits on that paper. Again that's American capitalism really it's American "GREED" (the actual name for capitalism in this country) 🎤 Drop!

People act like new york was so righteous them New York dudes was the first ones too sell out by letting the jews take control

Right and KRS 1

That part

OK BUT WHO WAS/IS MORE FAMOUS ? STUPID ASS EVEN SCHOOLY D WAS FIRST BUT THE POINT IS THE IMPACT N THE REWARDS SHOW SMART GUY

@@primitiveminds …damn…Im triggered…

@@enlightenme4875 U WERE GIVING 2 EARS N EYES FOR A REASON

Others may have tried But NWA succeeded in poisoning the Black Community

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Zulu Nation was formed by them along with several other gangs. NY cats are biased as hell lol!

THANK YOU!!!!

The government didn't care what coast we were on they wanted to destroy all of our communities and we really have to elevate our thinking and have mature conversations.

Cool Herc was not a Black Spade. Afrika Bambaataa started The Almighty Zulu Nation and they spread Hip Hop to Europe not the Black Spades. Hip Hop became a thing in NYC because the Gangs had a truce they made. I remember this. I have been a B Boy since the 1970's.

@@zxcccccc1Absolutely 💯

Jay Z was a 2nd tier MC back in the Day. Sold his soul to not be 2nd tier. He pretends to have been a Drug dealer when he was just a small time worker selling anothers product. Probably didn't even know who's product he was selling.

@@vnorm2907🧢🧢🧢 this just you hating on Jay

Plenty of 90s rap music about remorse

@@sc84_ I don't "Hate" on Jay Z, I just have NO RESPECT FOR HIM! I remember the beginnings of Hip Hop. I was their. I remember being in the Navy in San Diego in 1984 and Cali knew nothing of Hip Hop. I did a jam in Phily in 1980 and they knew noting of Hip Hop.

​@@vnorm2907Yeah ..you right about Jay Z though Nobody felt him when this culture was still alive.Dude was wearing Hawaiian shirts and getting dissed everywhere

We as youngsta never even knew what set most these rappers was in wasn't until the late 2000. Truthfully Boyz n hood taught us about gangs not rap. So he wrong.

There were no rapper claiming set in nwa unless they said it subliminal. Which young kids would caught. They actually other than easy was even in a true gang. Gangs been around since the 50. I say banging in little Rock taught me more about gangs than rap

FACTS!!! This is why NY is losing in Rap with this bias/hating B.S.

@@genetallen7130no it ain’t,you clowns just won’t accept the reality of the situation,gangsta rap didn’t do nothing positive for our people

@@osiawideman4851 There was "Gangsta Blaxploitation" movies before there was gangsta rap clown!!! We been f#@ed up as a people fella!!!

@@genetallen7130 I don’t know where the f@*k you’re from,but we didn’t do that bullshit where I’m from,”fighting over colors “,that’s some retarded shit

Lonzo steady cappin I'm from la and can say that's not true he been low-key hating on nwa for the longest and special ed is definitely wrong ,gang bangin was already gone be popular period cause that was the culture heck even cats from banging on wax was dissing cube and nwa

@@thelastdon9000 Smh… So called gangsta rap from LA, colors, menace etc…all contributed to the bs we’re seeing state to state. And I’m from the streets of LA.

NWA never talked about bloods and crips on the records. They weren't "gang banging". They were just talking about street stuff and what was going on in the neighborhoods in general.

I remember him saying that about N.W.A. and how they music influenced the Gang culture

Schooley D is the GOD father of gangster rap 😎

​@@roberts4587No he's not, so yall can stop lying.

@@roberts4587 Schooley D is not a gangster rapper, Ice T started gangster rap. Now you eastcoast clowns wanna claim yall started gangster rap now? 🤣🤣🤣 Goofy ass shit.

Exactly you had gangs in 70s before hip hop existed. Look at warrior the movie. That was in the 70s and ther playing rock music in the movie.

@@JaiAnthony-zg5cx I get the point and I have no reason to deflect. I'm stating my opinion. I'm not saying there is no correlation, that the music has no negative influence in the continuation of that situation, but I think the influence is not as strong as generally believed and it's being used as a scapegoat. Much of the gang activity stemmed from the drug game, as drugs spread across the nation, violence and crew and gang activity followed. This happened in the 1970s and 1980s before NWA was introduced, in spite of all the positive music we had (Roy Ayers, The Isley Brothers, Earth Wind & Fire, Motown, etc.). Gangs and violence continued to spread after that following the path of the drug trade. The chicken comes before the egg. Gangster rap is a product of the street game, not the other way around. Many rappers rap about it because that's what they lived or because that's what sells records, i.e. that is what we choose to spend our money on, more so than the positive music (Brand Nubian, Gangstarr, Jeru the Damaja, Intelligent Hoodlum, Public Enemy). The negative music doesn't help the situation, but it's not as much to blame for keeping people in that situation as people believe. I agree to disagree

Revelations is dope and one of my faves from that year, definitely underrated. I iked NWA as you said and Cube and Ren were highly skilled rappers, Cube left after an album or two and went off and did his thing and got more conscious after that (Political etc.).

@seancagney8897 Yea 95 was classic year in hip hop especially with only built 4 Cuban linx, infamous and Liquid swords releasing. Cube was better as a solo artist released some classics.

Thank you! You expressed my thoughts better than I could. I think people were so scared of their explicit and graphic depictions of reality and their gratuitous use of profanity that the underlying message was lost. And then there was the media…

Quit pushing that "they were just giving depictions" lie cuz it ain't helping. "Here's a little somethin' bout a nigga like me Never shoulda been let out the penitentiary Ice Cube would like ta say That I'm a crazy mothafucka from around the way Since I was a youth, I smoked weed out Now I'm the mutha fucka that ya read about Takin' a life or two that's what the hell I do You don't like how I'm livin well fuck you This is a gang, and I'm in it My man Dre'll fuck you up in a minute With a right left, right left you toothless And then you say goddamn they ruthless! Everywhere we go they say (damn) N W A's fuckin' up tha program And then you realize we don't care We don't just say no, we to busy sayin' yeah! About drinkin'' straight out the eight bottle Do I look like a mutha fuckin role model? To a kid lookin' up ta me Life ain't nothin' but bitches and money 'Cause I'm tha type o' nigga that's built ta last If ya fuck wit me I'll put a foot in ya ass See I don't give a fuck 'cause I keep bailin' Yo, what the fuck are they yellin'' Gangsta, Gangsta! That's what they're yellin' It's not about a salary, it's all about reality" Gangsta, Gangsta! That's what they're yellin' "Hopin you sophisticated motherfuckers hear what I have to say"" I can keep going. It was mostly teenagers and kids being influenced by that bullshit. The grown adults were telling us to turn that shit off.

more like an exaggeration and amplifier of PART of what was going on. It wasn't the whole picture nor a genuine reflection.

Church

Right. Ice Cube went to college and didn't dropout until they went on a countrywide tour.