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@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

Join our growing Community for additional help and support including 1 on 1 time if needed! www.patreon.com/DarkRangersInc? Promo Code!: DRI-2024-1

@mikelockwood2104 5 месяцев назад

Love APP ! I vote for Part II . This is an excellent video

@viewintospace 5 месяцев назад

So, finally you arrived here too! Good for you!!!! I use APP almost since I started this hobby and I would never go back to WBPP again!

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I’ve been using it for probably about six months now and I didn’t realize that so a few people that are newer to the hobby had never heard of it. I never made the video before because I just assumed most people knew about it. There’s always a new wave of people coming into the hobby!

@user-nd3sj1rr4l 5 месяцев назад

This is so helpful - -I think I'm going to buy it just for the stacking -thanks for the step by step guidance and YES now we need part 2!!!!! Thanks for the great content.

@SeaLintAstro 5 месяцев назад

Great overview, yes please do another video on processing!

@nikaxstrophotography 5 месяцев назад

APP is definitely the best for stacking and extracting the different channels even with OSC and a dual band filter. Even the light pollution tool is excellent as is the channel combinations. I'd still do the rest in Pixinsight and Photoshop. Excellent video mate you have a way of making things simple without all the excessive information others seem to leave in their videos.

@paulholdsworth2502 5 месяцев назад

I've been using APP for 3 years now and would say it's definitely the gold standard of stacking. I would also say it's by far the best software for creating mosaics and very straightforward. Personally I still use pixinsight for all my processing but there's no way I would stack in it.

@YneGrwr 5 месяцев назад

I whole heartedly agree with everything you said. I also have been using APP for the past 3 years and have spent some time comparing it to WBPP. For me it was no contest, APP all the way . Much better in speed (MAC silicone), simplicity, and especially in putting together mosaics. While I like APP's post processing, I still use PI and PS for most of that. Unfortunately PI is still not MAC silicone optimized yet. APP is my go to stacking program.

@ABCMO-bl5pi 5 месяцев назад

I only been using APP for several months, but really like it. And it did a great job for me on a 2 x 2 mosaic of the Veil Nebula.

@Jcastleinfo 5 месяцев назад

Excellent intro to this awesome tool. It does not get enough love in the RU-vid and tutorial space. There are a lot more great features in here too so I'd love to see more :)

@paolofat52 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for this overview. I have APP and would love an extensive processing tutorial.

@Brians_Astro-Adventures 5 месяцев назад

Yes please total processing video. I got app it would help the learning curve

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

Seems like there is some other interest as well thanks for commenting to let me know it’s of interest!

@VRzichtbaar 4 месяца назад

I love using app and Your video helped me to understand the different options. Although done very fast 😉 As you understand a video about the tools section will be appreciated. P.s. keep your videos coming as I like your approach and thoroughness

@tvanpeer 5 месяцев назад

I would love to see the processing stuff. I have been using APP for two years now and have started to use PI for processing, mainly because APP processing is not really well documented. There is no ‘Adam Block’ for APP unfortunately, but I would love to see you to become that person, since you can make complex stuff look so simple. No need to take up table tennis though 🙃

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

Well I certainly don’t want to be the “Adam Block” of anything I’ll let him keep that title lol, but I’m happy to keep making content on all things astrophotography and continue to help the community! Some channels make complicated stuff seem complicated my goal is to always simplify and make it more approachable. My specialty to date for processing tutorials has been Photoshop and Pixinsight but happy to add in some A.P.P. Fun fact grew up playing full size tennis even played in college 😉

@tvanpeer 5 месяцев назад

@@darkrangersinc I think you strike the right balance between a full explanation of all the theories behind a certain (PI) process and someone who just says ‘put that slider at 10’ without explaining why. That’s what I like about your videos, they are quite well balanced in depth of content.

@Far-Point-Station 5 месяцев назад

I would love to see more on APP

@AmatureAstronomer 5 месяцев назад

Interesting. I use SharpCap.

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

I’ve never used sharp cap. I’ve used ASI, which is also fast, but sacrifices quality. Deep sky stacker same thing. And of course WBPP which has great features but is pretty slow on big files especially with the big full frame sensor that this camera has each individual subframe is 118 MB.

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@Excessus1978 5 месяцев назад

Nice! you are saying stacking is fast.. Mine takes hours! Expecially when using LNC. The 5 first steps are the quickest. 6) Integration is where it kills my computer :(

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

What set up are you using? I’ve had a few people from the DRI community group s report that their speed improved dramatically after purchasing it none over about 15 or 20 minutes. If you have below 32 GB of RAM and aren’t using an SSD, I would consider upgrading some of those components, but either way, it will still be faster than PI

@Excessus1978 5 месяцев назад

@@darkrangersinc Oh I’ve done so many tests. I have 64GB RAM and 2TB fast M2 disk for APP to use when stacking. APP usually uses 300GB of HD space for stacking 120GB/file RAW files. The bottle neck in step6 is the harddrive speed. I use OSC så its 3 channels that needs to chew. Stacking one channel in OSC is much much faster than stacking all three. So doing Ha-Oiii Color is a waste of time regarding quality and time. Stacking Ha and Oiii separetely and combining later is faster and better IQ.

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@@Excessus1978 I have the same stats on an M2 MAX and even with QHY 600M full frame data I’m using now with huge 118mb files it’s still waaay faster than WBPP. My worst stack so far is roughly 20 hours for almost 20 hours of data with that camera but it would be the same as about 60h with a 268 or 2600 cam.

@josephluciani5531 5 месяцев назад

Another fantastic tutorial!!! I use APP for stacking, but haven’t been able to do an Image Solve (in Pixinsight) or SPCC. I recently found that SPCC doesn’t recognize the FITS header in an APP stacked image. Do you have any information on this?

@tvanpeer 5 месяцев назад

I typically take the FITS header from one of the Lights and drop it on the stacked image in PI.

@paolofat52 5 месяцев назад

How is this done?@@tvanpeer

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@@tvanpeer thank you for the answer!

@Mr77pro 5 месяцев назад

Or use the ImageSolve script😉

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@@Mr77pro that’s what I do even with WBPP because it’s faster than running asymmetric solution especially with 3 files.

@SteveHookEm 3 месяца назад

@darkrangersinc How do you use the tools shown? After you have stacked the files? What is the final output if I use one of the SHO tools?

@darkrangersinc 3 месяца назад

Check out the part 2 episode I made

@Chorge1972 4 месяца назад

Siril and APP are so fast! Why is WBPP so slow??????

@Mr77pro 5 месяцев назад

I moved over from DSS a couple years back and have used APP. I started using WBPP mainly because you can stack with different gain settings, different calibration frames and even different filters if needed. DSS just doesn't handle the multi-night/ calibration frames as elegantly as DSS. Not sure how flexible APP is in this regard

@Mr77pro 5 месяцев назад

And different exposure lengths...DSS hates that😅😅

@paashaas147 5 месяцев назад

APP will do full mutli-session and multi-channel/filter datasets on autopilot these days, simply load the lights and all calibration data for all filters and sessions and click on 6) integrate... all the masters will be matched properly with the correct light frames. APP will also process data from different setups automatically with different image scales as well, no problem to load data from 10 different telescopes and have APP combine it into 1 result.

@Mr77pro 5 месяцев назад

@@paashaas147Good to know!

@frankenstein77777 5 месяцев назад

APP was my stacking tool for a while until I moved to Pixinsight. I'll give it another go now, but for me there are two deficiencies that detract from it. Firstly, the lack of proper and thorough documentation. This has been promised for several years now but AFAIK still doesn't exist. You mentioned some features in your video that I didn't know existed; how are users supposed to get full functionality without a full manual? Secondly, it does not accept or Pixinsight's xisf file format. Not a massive deal breaker, but further processing in PI does become more awkward when the final stacked images are either fits or tiff.

@paashaas147 5 месяцев назад

First of all, please accept my apologies for having everyone wait for the promised manual. Just to let you know, APP 2.0 stable is almost ready which will be accompanied with a full printable manual in both PDF and HTML (online) formats... like we promised. The transfer to APP 2.0 on a new development platform just took so much work that it took a long time to get to this stage. One of the great benefits is that APP runs 100% natively on the new macs with Apple Silicon making it very fast. Some of the features in this video were only released recently as well as part of the work for APP 2.0. Another upside of the new development platform is that APP is much faster now in general (so also on Linux and Windows), especially on newer computers, so APP is ready for the future for sure.

@frankenstein77777 5 месяцев назад

@@paashaas147 Thanks for your reply. I'll certainly look forward to seeing and using the manual. I processed some data today in APP (over 1000 subs) that previously took Pixinsight WBPP about 10 hours to complete...APP took 2.5 hours! I was blown away by this difference. The resolution in the PI masters appeared to be slightly better than those from APP, but their noise was greater. I will tweak some of the settings to see if APP can improve.

@ABCMO-bl5pi 5 месяцев назад

Will us current APP subscribers received an email announcement when APP 2.0 is released?

@Jcastleinfo 5 месяцев назад

@@paashaas147 Thanks Mabula! Love the software! Giddy with excitement over V2 and thrilled to hear that it's right around the corner.

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@@ABCMO-bl5pi the creator is 👆 so I’ll let him answer or ask him for part two if he doesn’t see the ?

@grandmasteryoda9893 5 месяцев назад

have you fixed guide problem on am5? i think on buy it or hem27, but if i cant trust is the am5 realy worth it

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

After I made the video, they finally reached out in response to it and offered to send out a new mount head. It doesn’t appear to have spikes yet. My first one took six months for it to develop though, so hopefully this one is better. I would recommend looking at the Pegasus, NYX 101. It has a 50% higher capacity and I have one coming soon for a review!

@grandmasteryoda9893 5 месяцев назад

@@darkrangersinc i do want the nyx, but it is alos very expensive, over here in eu we pay 25% tax + shiping on all import. that make tghe am5 2700 buks, the nyx will be over 4k here. its just to much

@darkrangersinc 5 месяцев назад

@@grandmasteryoda9893in the U.S. it’s $2300 vs $3000 so pretty easy to make the choice given 50% more captivity and better quality/engineering. If you want my honest opinion, I would skip the AM5 and find a friend in the US to buy and ship you the NYX 😂😉. There are plenty of other options out there. If you don’t need lightweight then the EQ6-R is a workhorse. Losmandy is someone I’m talking to right now to try their G11G but they also make smaller mounts with 40 or 50lb capacity at a good price. Plenty of options out there!

@timothymaurer6720 4 месяца назад

Check out the Meow UMi17... fantastic harmonic mount. And you'll really like the price and the user community around it. Lots of users in the EU.

@astrodojo1 4 месяца назад

lil expensive

@darkrangersinc 4 месяца назад

Well I got us a code to make it a lil cheaper 🤷🏻‍♂️😉. In all honesty it saves me hours of time and I am glad I have it but I understand everyone has a different budget. But I do think it’s worth it