Madame Web is currently bombing as you read this so surely it means Sony don't still try and force their universe into the MCU right??? ...right?????????
I think a major reason why Spiderman and multiverse gets meshed together is because many writers let the meta-commentary into the character. Spiderman is Marvel's Mascot so of course, he will be featured in these massive cosmic events on his own. But yeah, I want to see Peter Parker and Black Cat get into a romantic fling because that is something we have not seen before in live action.
I think No Way Home set up the idea of Peter feeling like he hurts everyone around him, so having him be Spider-Man 24/7 to hide from being Peter is a great idea
It's incredible how Sony is simply incapable of doing a good blockbuster film on their own. What was the last good Sony Blockbuster other than the Marvel Spider-Man films?
Nothing. That's why they threatened to destroy the MCU's progress twice. First by trying to gatekeep Holland and now with trying to forcibly insert horrible movies into the other universe. To the point of LYING to actors and actresses to accomplish that.@@RuuyG
Btw I am skeptical of how Peter's gonna fight the kingpin because spiderman would one shot him blind folded. There has to be more powerful villains working for kingpin
@@bigmojo704yup spiderverse is a really good franchise they need to stick it and leave action live movies to mcu(even though they a little ass right now). And no Andrew Garfield’s spiderman movies were trash we don’t need a 3rd movie
@@angelmaldonado5657 Ehh, TASM 1 isn’t a bad movie, it has it’s problems but it’s pretty solid, TASM 2 is definitely bad on the other hand. I agree with everything else you said, though.
the mcu hasn't done anything but stress me out, bore me, and annoy me for about a decade now with the only exception being the guardians trilogy, they completely lost my patience regarding tom holland's character
@@shealupkes I think they’re starting to realize this but Sony isn’t if they ruin the spider man movies it’s rlly going to mess me up cause there is so much they can do with the movie.
@@Mr_super_Legend I find it very confusing how they boast how much stuff is in a film yet in reality put in very little beyond a massive cast and references
would love to see it be focused around Spider-Man's mafia villains with Kingpin reveal at the end for a tease for a teamup movie, the next Spider-Man shouldn't be a teamup movie
@@midgetydeath, does that also mean any records of Peter Parker being Spider-Man would also survive? I feel like Strange may have done something to expunge the records idk
@@ringedomnivore9491i think it would have to, because his friends would've still had pictures with him + all of the media about his identity would've revealed it again
Kevin Feige would be an idiot to work with Sony after Madame Web's failure. Doesn't Sony have enough? They already have the Spiderverse Duology and they should be working on the third Spiderverse movie to complete the trilogy. Sony is only good for animated spiderman multiverse movies
They still need to work toghter iven if you like or not because tom is bout mcu and sony. Iven if i see People saving tom spiderma is only mcu that is not true is still part off the spiderman multiverse or they couldet mention him inn across the spiderverse. But I heard they have Come to deal where 80 % Will be street and 20 mutliverse. 80 inn mcu and 20% multiverse. And that is also good deal for mcu
@@carinahatlevoll153fuck does 80% street level 20% multiverse mean? If the multiverse is in the movie it’s gonna be a multiverse movie. Like unless it’s a cameo or blink and you miss it, it won’t be street level with multiverse threats
@@cavemanbuddyolpal it means have the movie street but one off hhe spiderman tobey, Andrew or miles comes inn true the end and also have them inn thw Credits.
imo The Devil's Reign would work better if it was the center of the 3 films, with the first one ending with Fisk getting elected as mayor, the second one instauring the official anti-heroes police and the third one being the reunion of all the heroes, or even make a non-spiderman movie that is the ending of the Devil's Reign story, so that all the characters have more spotlight and not only spidey and dd
@@gh05tW hopefully, if they do it right it can be the best potrayal of Venom yet. Just hopefully not in the 4th one, I'm thinking the 5th he should appear and then lead into the sixth.
knowing Peter's going to be in a low emotional state, what better even to happen for the next trilogy, than the "Alien Costume?" seeing how Secret wars was how Peter first encountered the alien symbiote on battleworld, perhaps he could gain it during that time and return to wear it for one of the new movies, and hopefully not just get rid off immediately, he wore it for a long time!
That would take like until 2030. hope Tom will do it so long 😅 he even said after no way home that he doesn’t know if he will even continue. I think He continues, but with that in mind I don’t think he will do it for 6 more years. Let’s hope. I wish it.
Harry being a rich socialite dating a struggling model in MJ who is with him for status but love meeting Peter and seeing him as good person who reminds her of her lower middle class roots she's trying to escape from? Perfect
I dont want anymore "cameos" or other superheroes it feels like theyve finally built up to a solo spiderman film where he really will have to fend for himself, i really do not wanna see bloody ant man show up as another guide figure
Sadly that's not happening apparently part of the Sony-Marvel deal is that a Major MCU must appear in MCU Spider man movie everytime Tony in HC,Fury in FFH,and Dr Strange in NWH so ya no solo adventures for him
Keep Tobey, Andrew, Zendaya, Ned and anything Iron Man, Avengers and multiverse-related concepts away from Spider-Man 4. They should start fresh for Tom’s Peter. Have him meet his own Harry Osborn, Gwen Stacy, and even Miles. Dive more into Aaron Davies and introduced new villains that can keep him at a street level. Daredevil should be the only other hero that Spider-Man interacts with in NYC. Then later on for Secret Wars, bring Tobey and Andrew back to interact with Tom, also have Tobey interact with Wolverine there too.
I would like to see the Black suit at some point during the trilogy, so that it can show the darkness that Peter has inside and at the end of let's say the 5th film, he could get rid of it and starts to open up again to people
This sounds more like an outline for a trilogy rather than a single film. Having it spread throughout separate movies will allow the side characters room to actually make an impact without taking away from peters story. Giving tombstone and hammerhead their own movies makes it feel like they are bosses leading up to kingpin at the end where all of the side heroes can truly shine as you mentioned at the end.
Also, this is probably the perfect setup for this spider-man to turn comic accurate like the spider-man comics. Green goblin, Death of gwen stacy, harry osborn, maybe a new MJ, hobgoblin, etc.
I really want to see Spider-Man team-up with Daredevil, Punisher, Echo, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Colleen Wing, Misty Knight, and Kate Bishop to take down Kingpin.
Absolutely AMAZING video. I didn't know a lot of the points you made in it, so this was a good refresher for me on what Spider-Man's been up to. Also, you're right. Keep Sony away from here
I'm so surprised this only has 141 views this video is absolutely magnificent I agree with everything you said, Sony needs to shut up and let marvel do its thing. And again, amazing video.
this video KEEPS SHOWING UP ON MY FEED, i never played spiderman, i dont even play games, what stree-level even means? IT PISSES ME OFF AND MAKES ME INTERESTED IN CLICKING TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL STREET LEVEL MEANS
Just the thought of a Daredevil & Spidey movie makes me grin. Sony needs to get hacked by North Korea again to learn its place. Also Scorpion working for Kingpin is a great idea!!!
All of your ideas really are great but I think ned should definitely return in the fifth movie maybe as a villain something that will really mess with Spider-Man but I really agree with all of your ideas and yes street level is exactly what we need Sony is not it
Everything you said in this video is a GREAT idea. And from rumors I’ve heard, it almost sounds like it’s mostly what they are gonna do. Another thing with him feeling grief and anger and all that: I feel like that could perfectly set the stage for him getting the symbiote since a piece of it did get left in the MCU in the end credits scene of NWH.
@@Grant_Scarborolet's just leave him out for another trilogy. let peter shine and mature and we can have miles later down the road. and peter can be like tony stark to miles. and finally kill him off heroically or something. it'll work actually
I like the story. I would hold off on having multiple heroes in this one though. Like the home trilogy, you could have one bonus hero in each movie. In this one it's Daredevil, in the 5th it could be a reintroduced Luke Cage or another MCU hero. The 6th movie could end the Fist storyline by bringing in multiple heroes.
Ever since last year I freaking enjoy the awesome Netflix/MCU's Daredevil series with Charlie Cox after I was first introduced to the character in No Way Home, so I do hope that Marvel Studios and Sony would make a Spider-Man movie crossover with Daredevil. 🤞🏼
I think it should be as street level as Homecoming was in the sense that it's just peter being a college kid but also should contain that balance of a secret identity since he has no one now to cover up for him.
Symbiote trilogy would be good if they actually paced it out Also i want the chameleon, scorpion or even Smythe and his spider slayers There's so many cool characters they've got that we could go a while without even attempting ock or goblin
Scott Lang could be an interesting figure for Peter at this point. Scott hit absolute rock bottom before he became Ant Man so he knows what it takes to rebuild a life, and how to maintain both aspects of it when one is a superhero.
I just hope if marvel does get a hold, I hope with all my heart they don’t make Spider-Man a main avenger or the “face” of the mcu. I need them to be best of both world’s. Feige’s street level films, but still has sony’s moderation of Spidey. If you don’t know what I mean, in civil war,infinity war, and endgame Spider-Man obviously has a presence but it’s in moderation. He doesn’t need to be a full on avenger, just helps when he can but sticks to his own devices
I would actually love for Spider-Man to be a main avenger, sure it's not Spider-Man-like (cause it happens very rarely in the comics) but it's because of that we haven't seen it that I would love it, cause not only we get something new, but also more screentime for the most loved superhero
If Sony is so desperate to get Tobey and Andrew back on they payroll, how about making Amazing Spider-Man 3? You know...the movie fans have been wanting to see since NWH came out??
They could probably have SM4 be a street-level movie and do what the 90's cartoon did and have Madame Web make a brief cameo (albeit with GOOD writing), having her give cryptic warnings and whatnot of something greater on the horizon. Hell, maybe that could lead to another multiverse movie down the line similar to that of Spider-Geddon or something. I dunno, that makes sense in my head, but could also be pretty wishful thinking.
Spider-man 4 should be grounded Proceeds to list 5+ crossover and cameos in a huge Devil's Reign event. Bro 💀 I could get this being set up and ending as Spider-man 5. But we can take it a bit slower, doing some Neighbourhood Spider-man shit.
Homecoming is decent, Far From Home just felt meaningless and pointless, and NWH is really the only great movie from the trilogy. The best thing they can do with Tom is get him away from all the MCU crap and give Spidey his own story. However, I think tying him into the Daredevil side of Marvel would be perfect.
In my honest opinion I think the Sony Spider-Man universe should merge with the MCU in secret wars because of the destruction of the multiverse Keep the 4th film street level and have all the Sony Spider-Man universe characters stick around in the MCU after secret wars and then for Spider-Man 5 or 6 whatever comes next Tom holland goes against Sonys villains while training the MCU miles morales
hi would u like to listen to my approach as to how the multiverse saga shls hv unfolded? I think marvel shld establish 4 major pillars- Avengers, FF, X men and spiderman and then all the other characters kinda revolve around these. i personally believe that when we speak of the MCU now we specifically mean Earth - 1999999. I think that universe is a bit too crowded now. Let the FF be introduced to that universe and take leading role. And then at the same time make audiences invested into 2 other parallel universes in a serious manner. Now here is the catch, one would be spiderman and all the characters that are a part of his entire lore, and the other wld be X- men and all the other characters that are an important part of their lore. No avengers in these universes. U might have some overlap of the minor characters which might be common nd might share variants across these 3 universes. And these 3 universes down the line will in some way collide with each other(metaphorically or even literally). or lets say will become aware of each others existence and will realise that their collective fates are intertwined with each other. now I just have one question, can Sony use Miles Morales as a character and his version of spiderman as of now currently? Since u mentioned above that if they have currently liscenced the rights of Spiderman to marvel so they themselves cannot use it. Hope u find this comment interesting wld love to hear your feedback.
I feel like Devil’s Reign is too much for one Spider-Man movie. I feel like Fisk should be an overarching villain for a while for all street level heroes and then end that “saga” with a Devil’s Reign movie. Like Daredevil shouldn’t have him be the main villain but he should still be there. Then you can have all these street level heroes come together. Too many heroes for a Spider-Man movie is just too overwhelming
Yo I like this dude saying Spider-Man no way home is the best live action Spider-Man movie and that the final swing suit is the best live action Spider-Man suit
Agreed. Sony's the worst. They can't even make their own Smash Bros style game and they even have the same team who worked on Morbius and Madame Web work on a live action Legend of Zelda movie.
It’s funny how Peter is at his lowest point at the end of the last movie. But that’s just the average day for Peter Parker. His life sucks and always will be
Finally a brotha who understands Pete needs to stay away from the multiverse for now and get with best girl black car since he's not ready to go back to MJ as well as a daredevil and spidey team up against kingpin. This is what the fans want.
Honestly I dont like how the echo show did echo so I hope they change her just a tiny bit(alot), also we need some black cat love in live action, spideys best girl never gets enough appreciation
Exactly This the perfect idea couldn’t said it better myself . I can also see Liz from homecoming be black cat. And in the end credits when peter goes to his university or the feast center he somehow meets a young miles morales and realizes he also has spider powers. The Spider-Man 2 video game I think perfectly passed the torch to miles . Which I think will happen eventually and would be a perfect way to do it. I think they will because Tom holland contract almost over
I think the true power of kingpin in daredevil, was his cleverness and manipulation of the people. If kingpin becomes mayor and convinces the people of new york that Spider-man and all the other vigilantes are the source of the city´s problem, that would such a flavourful nuance to the movie. Like peter would already be unsure of his dedication to a spider-man prioratized life, But now also everyone hates his alter ego when he just tries to do the right thing?? That could be interesting
I basically agree with everything in the video. The one thing is that I have to point out, is this would be a lot for one singular movie (unless it's 3 hours). So I think it'd be best they split it into a subsequent one: Where this one is as you said, street-level, but more focused on creating a foundation for the villains and Fisk, and the next one to be about a possible version of the symbiote for the MCU with the inclusion of Black Cat just like in the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon series. (But then again, the cartoon managed in less than an hour of episodes, most of that).
spider man is the best character ever if done right and I think it is very simple to execute but needs to be proper, the only thing that keeps this character from its full potential is literally sony, sony is the definition of greed
I think if we just have one crime lord like Hammerhead to fill the void that’d work, unless Tombstone was a henchman having that many crime lord subplots would be conflicting to the main arc. one thing that I’ve been really tired of when it comes to MCU Spider-Man is him constantly having to have a mentor to “guide” him. Spidey should be on his lonesome by now with daredevil doing a tag team in bits of the film, no ant man, black cat as a subplot with the venom storyline. Peter needs to fight his own internal battles this time, especially with the symbiote taking over
The story you suggested should be a trilogy of movies. Daredevil should appear in Spider Man 5, and Hawkeye and Kate in SM 6. Kingpin is the main villian for 3 movies, with iconic spider man villians being standalone movie villians. Maybe have them recurring to eventually form the sinister six.
A few things that would be cool. 1. It would be nice if they explored the fact that he knows about the other two MJs fates and thats the reason why he's hesitant to be part of her life. 3. Everything you said. 2. He's literally lost everyone and has no support structure so it would be cool to see him fight whatever villain they choose while, battling not to lose his mercy/compassion.
Sony always care about money but the money they got is our money we put on the cinema to watch their movies We are the fans here...we need a respectful spider Man movie to enjoy... a movie we wanna see on the big screen not another massive despoitment
One way to show Sony that we are here for quality is to continue what we did for Madame Web. And since they still got Kraven and Venom 3 on the line, I say we don’t show our support to go see these movies, tho it’s an impossibility at this point for Venom 3. But we can do something about it and vote with our dollars. That way when Sony sees their movies failing this year they can get the idea to leave Spider Man 4 alone
Right because Sony did not make Spider-Verse and in-fact produced the shitty pulp serial movies that suck iron mans nuts. Oh wait no its the other way around.
Awesome video! As a massive Spider-Man fan myself, I've been dying to see a Daredevil and Spidey team up to take down Fisk and other villains he hires. Sony should be taking notes and realize that the Multiverse needs to take the back seat. Marvel Studios knows what they're doing.
Do you think Spider-Man should be rebooted especially when Sony hands over the rights to him and the other characters from his comics back to marvel? Tom Holland's Spider-Man was great during the Infinity Saga but after Spider-Man No Way Home, Sony is having him sidelined so that they can decide when he should appear in the MCU next since Spider-Man wasn't featured, mentioned or seen after his third movie with the exception of Multiverse of Madness due to obvious reasons also he stopped appearing in the Marvel Studios intro
I 100% Agree accept for Echo. And recommend the following Punisher and Torch brief cameos , And name drop Iceman and Firestar attending Peter's College or reference. To fix Sony's Multiverse Issue - Garfield and McGuire should get Secret Wars over Holland but the reveal is while Holland is sidelined most of Secret Wars he still gets the Symbiote late but McGuire doesn'twarn Holland in time about Venom setting up Spiderman 5 and 6.
tbh he should’ve been the main villain of Far from home and it should’ve took place before Infinity War like Black Widow because there’s two years between Homecoming and Infinity War two years where he was Spider-Man before the snap and we will never see that
Man what do I want less. Sony giving us a greedy cameo-fest or us getting daredevil the movie with Spider-Man in it too. Can’t we just get a normal regular Spider-Man movie
Like this is an unpopular opinion, but I DONT want other heroes in a Spider-Man movie because then it isn’t a Spider-Man movie it’s a Spider-Man and Daredevil movie. No daredevil, no kingpin, no other street level heroes
