Split Finger or Three Under, does it matter?

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Do you shoot three under or split finger? Does it matter in traditional archery? Is split finger better than three under? A look back, archery discussion and t-shirt give-away today. / catholichackstradition...
I’m coming up on my one year anniversary of this traditional archery channel, so, in addition to discussing whether or not split finger style of string grip is better than three under style, I thought we would also enjoy a few clips from the videos we have posted over this past year. Additionally, I’m giving away a t-shirt just to say THANK YOU for being apart of this community.
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Why discuss split finger vs three under? Well, I switched from split, Mediterranean style, to three under this year and I have received a few questions about that. I thought it might be good to chat about it since I know there are many in this community who have a preference for one or the other and will contribute to the conversation.
In this video I explain some basic differences between the three under and split finger style as well as why I made the switch, giving three points. As always, let me know your thoughts in the comment box!
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Here are some other great videos on split finger vs three under, check them out.
NUSensei - Archery Hook - Split Finger or Three Under? - • Archery Hook - Split F...
Greyarcher - Video Answer! Split fingers/Three under? - • Video Answer! Split fi...
Archery101 - Which is Louder Split Finger or Three Under - • Traditional Archery - ...
Grizzly Jim - shooting three fingers under barebow archery - • shooting three fingers...
S3 Archery - S3 Archery - Mediterranean vs 3-Finger Under - • S3 Archery - Mediterra...
Jeff Kavanagh - Traditional Archery - Deep Hook, Tab/Glove, 3Under/Split Fingers - • Traditional Archery - ...
Speed Archery Channel - Types of Archery draws - Thumb ring versus Mediterranean versus Apache draw - • Common Traditional Arc...
Clay Hayes - Traditional Archery Tips - • Traditional Archery Ti...
Clips used in this video are pulled from the following videos on this channel:
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@ronniedale8960 7 лет назад

I just switched to 3 fingers under after 25 years of shooting split finger. I wish I would have switched a long time ago. It has made me a better shot. I look forward to your videos each week!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you!

@stevec5922 7 лет назад

Congratulations on the first year Joe! it's always the first thing I watch on a Friday morning ( here in the UK). I shoot split, but as with most things in Traditional archery, there is no right or wrong it's what works for you. As long you are hitting your target and shooting consistently and safely, use which ever you are comfortable with.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Steve C I love what you said, "as long as you are hitting your target and shooting consistently and safely," so true!

@howardlaflamme1255 7 лет назад

I started off split finger but tried three under to see if I would like it. Haven't looked back since. Once I switched my grouping started getting better and I felt less fatigue in my wrist. Great video and Happy one year anniversary, love watching your videos.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Howard La Flamme thank you, I am very grateful!

@mandostudent 6 лет назад

shooting three under actually closes my gap quite a bit. thx for your vids!

@13BeatKing 5 лет назад

I've been shooting for almost a year now. I started with split finger and changed to 3 under as I worked on form. I shoot instinctive as well and 3 under puts the arrow more in line with my line of sight. It also keeps me from pinching the arrow and keeping a clean release.

@BanesBasement 7 лет назад

For the first few weeks I used three under, but after trying split finger for a couple of hours I found that kind of draw allowed me to get more power, I know you can draw powerfully with three under but I found it a lot easier to be accurate at full draw with split

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+SeerSmashChannel thank you!

@brianturner9323 7 лет назад

I've only been shooting since April, tried both split and 3 under in the beginning and have been shooting 3 under since then. In my mind i get better visual alignment this way. Keep up the good work, and the God work!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Brian Turner thank you!

@gonzoiguess7301 7 лет назад

I shoot split just because it always felt right to me. Self taught really and still learning (I get the feelin I'll be learning about archery till the day I die which I love!) but it feels right to me. The Mongolian release looks like something I'd wanna try some day. You should make a video on that!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Ryan Gonzalez thank you, I too want to try the Mongolian release, just want to wait till I get a proper Horse Bow.

@eddyg.7761 6 лет назад

i use 2 under , best of both worlds , linear pull and shaft very close to the eye , god bless you all , greetings from Belgium !

@catholichackstraditionalar305 6 лет назад

Thank you Eddy, I am grateful for your feedback!

@eddyg.7761 6 лет назад

you are most welcome sir , keep up the good work , like your vids vm !

@billehlers7674 7 лет назад

Joe congratulations on your anniversary, and thank you for your time. Well I did what you recommend. I played around with both all while having fun and settled in on split finger. My hunting partner did the same and he settled in on three under. You were right, it's what feels good to the individual and making it consistent. Thanks again!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Bill Ehlers thank you! Are you getting excited about the coming season? I am!

@billehlers7674 7 лет назад

Joe extremely! Glad you are as well. This year I'll enter the woods with more confidence and consistency. Thanks to you and your community here and the tips I've learned. Looking forward to harvesting my first deer with traditional gear. Wish you all the best for this upcoming season. Will be fun!!

@billehlers7674 7 лет назад

Joe yes I am! And will enter the wood with more consistency and confidence thanks to your tips and the community here. Hopefully this will be the year for my first Trad harvest. By the way do you use tree stands or hunt from the ground? Any shooting tips on either one? Or maybe someone from the community has some thoughts. All the best to you this season.

@pachild3 4 года назад

I Haven't held a bow since I was 14 and I'm 51 now. I remember how I loved everything about archery even though mine knowledge was very basic. So now I'm making a point to really understand archery. So I appreciate your channel, thank God you are here!

@cristiansandor4435 4 года назад

You can start it anytime. Check my age, I restarted about 10 years ago and not regret it at all.

@ryan52620 3 года назад

Just got into archery the past couple of weeks and have tried both. 3 under seems to feel better for me. So much to learn. Great vid.

@dshale10 6 лет назад

Thanks for the chance to win a shirt. I switched to 3 under this year as well. Seemed to help me improve my grouping, but I will definitely measure my draw how and see if it makes any difference. I suffer from T-REX arm syndrome and the struggle is real!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 6 лет назад

Hahaha... that's too funny, I say the same thing about me... I've got T-Rex arms. Thank you my friend!

@StickHippieOutdoors 7 лет назад

I shoot 3 under, I wanted to shoot split like Fred Bear but I experience a bunch of finger pinch on my index finger (fat hands) and it just wasn't comfortable. I'd like to say congratulations on your one year anniversary, you've progressed so much as an archer over that year, again congrats. More importantly than that though is your stand for Jesus Christ, I appreciate you using your platform to expose people to Jesus. Have a great day brother, shoot straight and God bless....looking forward to the next year

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+bill ward God is Good, thank you! I'm very grateful for you being apart of this community and for all you are doing to share both our love for trad archery and our love of Jesus! God Bless You!

@EltonBrooke 7 лет назад

Started with split finger and ended up with three under. I just found I was more consistent with 3 under. Enjoy watching your videos!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you, Elton!

@frankchurch3013 7 лет назад

I am 82 years of age and took up field archery two years ago. I am also left eye dominant which has created quite a problem and I am still trying to work out the best way to overcome this. Tried almost everything but eventually gone back to both eyes open. I use a Falco Spirit LOngbow at 37lb and a Hoyts Formula Recurve at 36 lb. With the Longbow I use split with a draw length of 26 inches. (Still working on my anchor point) and I use three under on the recurve but haven't measured the draw length yet, thinking it would be the same. I'll do it this week and see if I can get that important extra inch :-) Would love to win that shirt :-) but I live in South Australia :-) Regards Frank

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Frank Church thank you Frank! Wow!!! You inspire me, I hope I'm still shooting at 82. I'm grateful you are apart of this community.

@jmfa57 6 лет назад

Frank, you're awesome, Sir! I'm sixty and still a novice. Like Joe, I am inspired by you!!!

@vadimgolubov7317 5 лет назад

Frank God loves you let Jesus into your heart if you haven't. If you have god bless you sir

@johnvanboolen7820 5 лет назад

Hi Frank, I took up archery at 65 and fell in love with it. I have to admire your spirit at 82 !! fair play to you mate, all the best John v

@billybob-cd5oc 4 года назад

Hello to you, always wanted to travel to Australia and New Zealand. Been intrigued by both countries for decades. Now that the airlines think everyone's a terrorist and likes to demean people I will probably never make the trip. I will have to wait till we are resurrected by the good Lord. Enjoy your archery....

@NathanChisholm041 Год назад

I use both depending on what im doing! I use a horsemans bow most times and have been using three under with good results.

@Sonicguy95 7 лет назад

I learned split, that's what feels right. I can shoot 3 under just fine, but it doesn't feel right and I can feel off forearm tension for my ring finger. Probably just a weak muscle not strengthened because I don't shoot that way. Feel familiarity and control with split. Good job on the year of the channel. I was like "no way Joe's been making videos for a year" then remembered you separated your original channel's content. Wow, one year goes fast, you're definitely owning this channel as an archery channel. Can't believe this channel was just created a year ago...

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Sonicguy95 thank you! I'm glad your apart of this community, you have contributed a lot! I'm grateful.

@bsb7181 7 лет назад

AND CONGRATS ON A YEAR!!! This has been awesome to follow!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Brad Bourgeois i am grateful!

@ianmoz7313 6 лет назад

I shoot three under with a fixed crawl. Learned this style from The Push archery and helped me get alot bettet accuracy then purely instinctive with split finger. I do use the tip of my arrow though but somewhat split vision. Havent shot for quite some time and like your newest videos said I too am very busy and havent hunted at all this fall. Did some bear hunting in the late spring but that's about it for this year. Thanks for your good videos and may God bless you too!

@quackhead1975 7 лет назад

Joe, Daren here. I have shot split finger for 34yrs now, I have tried three under but seem to always go back to split finger. Being primarily a selfbow shooter split finger seems to work better for me. Great video as always Daren

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Kountry Aire thank you!

@JulioFRivera 7 лет назад

Congrats on your 1st year my friend, pray for many more,,,I shoot 3 under for 20 yds and below, anything over 20 yds, split fingers, it help with distance, God Bless my friend.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Julio F Rivera wow, that's cool, I think your the first to say you use a combo of both. Thank you!

@bolandjd 7 лет назад

I'm a split finger guy, even though I mainly gap shoot. I just get a much more consistent and smoother release than using three under. Don't know why. I suppose I could work with a coach and spend lots of time and/or money and work through the issue. But its just easier to shoot split finger and compensate for the bigger gap. As long as the rest of my shot cycle is good, I'll hit the target. Congrats on the one year anniversary! I really do love your channel. St. Sebastian, pray for us.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Amen! Thank you, John, I am very grateful.

@jeffjackson5331 7 лет назад

I shoot split finger only because that was how i was taught. I might try three under. I enjoy watching your videos and all the info you have. Thank you and GOD BLESS!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Jeff Jackson thank you! God Bless You!

@jeffjackson5331 7 лет назад

CatholicHack's Traditional Archery your welcome bud.

@cjames2256 2 года назад

Great video and channel. Im a split fingered shooter but only because that’s the way I was taught. Going to try three below though…

@rage1er743 7 лет назад

Just getting into Archery and hooked already and your videos been great help so thank you. I'm left handed with most things, I can shoot left handed but as Im right eye dominant I shoot right handed with split finger. Respect from UK

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you, Paul... so glad you are shooting and part of this community! Have you seen NUSensei's video on cross dominance? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T7OlptZdQ8o.html

@rage1er743 7 лет назад

CatholicHack's Traditional Archery I have now thanks for the link. After watching few your video's I had a try of three finger's under and found my accuracy improved lot with very tighter grouping

@michaelmarotta2022 7 лет назад

3 under for me. But I've used both. Thanks for the opportunity to win a shirt, and for putting out some great videos!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+michael marotta thank you for being apart of this community!

@RFVCXR200R 7 лет назад

I shoot split because I only had Olympic archers as an example when I started shooting barebow again for the first time since I was a kid. But I'm slowly finding more trad stuff. Which brings me to this point:n Thanks for your videos, and your hard work. Not only are you making thought provoking videos, but you're developing a viable traditional archery community. Your encouragement for discussion is one of the best thing your channel has brought forth. Kudos!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+RFVCXR200R thank you! I'm grateful for this feedback, I really am striving to build a positive community for archers to interact... especially for new shooters. You have contributed a lot, I appreciate that.

@knifethrower9372 7 лет назад

Hey Joe, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! I really enjoy your videos and thanks for acknowledgement. I am in agreement with you on consistency being the key. If you find something that works... keep doing it. p.s. had my gallbladder removed yesterday so i will not be shooting for a few weeks, will get a video out as soon as i get healed up. so i hope you get another vid posted so i have something to watch while i heal. ;)

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+ken tabor jr wow! Praying for your recovery. Thank you for being apart of this community.

@rich7036 7 лет назад

I switched from split to three under. It seems to work better for me. Better groups/accuracy for me. I really started three under after watching a fixed crawl video, your string walking video and never went back to split.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Tradbow awesome, thank you!

@BillyHilly123 6 лет назад

I'm 62 yrs old and took up traditional archery last month. I tried 3 fingers below with anchor at the corner of my mouth, and tried split finger without aiming with the arrow and I thought I was getting better with my groups,not.I went back with the 3 fingers below the the nock and the anchor point at the cheek.My groups are a lot better now,but I still have a occasional flyer but not as bad. I also have the Samack bow in the deluxe model at 40 lbs. Thanks for sharing your information.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 6 лет назад

I'm glad your shooting lee! Keep experimenting with your set up and form... do what works for you.

@missionman4539 7 лет назад

I switched from 3 under to split -just feels right as I'm total instinctive, no aim reference. Thanks for your videos!!

@kent9377 7 лет назад

I'm about to get into traditional archery. your videos are a great help

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

That's is awesome, I am glad you are apart of this community! Is there any particular information you would like me to make a video about, that would be helpful to you?

@ESPG 7 лет назад

I like 3 under for the same reason you said. brings the arrow closer to eye level. I like gap and instinctive for shooting.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+humberto gonzalez thank you!

@johnvanboolen7820 5 лет назад

Hi Joe, nice to see you you again, I prefer split finger, I Suppose it's feels more natural (to me) but I like to feel that the nock is on the string and hasn't dropped off! had this a couple off times shooting in cold weather with numb fingers, so it's the same as a 'dry fire ' shoot well mate

@lutzschneider6902 7 лет назад

I shoot split fingers / Mediterranean, mainly cause that's the way I got taught and started with. But I must admit until last year I didn't even know that there are other ways of shooting a bow, like thumb releasing etc. Thanks for your videos by the way, they're really helpful and entertaining. Keep on making them, shoot straight 😊👍🏻

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you, Lutz, I'm very grateful for the feedback. I appreciate you being apart of this community and glad you are enjoying the channel... means a lot to me.

@baxdens4221 7 лет назад

Joe, congrats at the anniversary. I shoot 3Ds and rules state that you must shoot split for my class. I find that I can anchor against side of nose with top two fingers and third finger on corner of my mouth, reckon two anchor points better than one (not sure what would happen if I got fat face though!). Agree that it doesn't really matter as long as you are consistent. Replacement Bear SK 64" finally arrived, really amazing looking bow, limbs and tips are narrower that old SK, feels faster. Keep up the good work, look forward to the next video.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you, great feedback!

@rtoguidver3651 6 лет назад

60 years ago arrows wouldn't stay on the string, so split was needed to keep it there. Now arrows snap on so we can use three under.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 6 лет назад

Thank you, I had not considered that.

@Voidlord1 3 года назад

i thought so too, but there is a thing. you could tie a knot (well, a thicker knocking point basically), so you could hold an arrow by pressing it between your finger and knocking point. but was it actually done so, i have no idea...

@rtoguidver3651 3 года назад

@@Voidlord1 That could work, but if you loose pressure against the knot the arrow will fall and the deer gets away.. One over two under keeps the arrow in place, but arrows now snap on so three under will work and have a nock on the string so the arrow is in the same place each time. I still use Old School, but only compete w/ myself now, that way I always win.. My nock is a black sharpie mark on the string..- Very Old School !

@Voidlord1 3 года назад

@@rtoguidver3651 yeah, i understand the appeal of shooting split finger, i wanted to shoot split finger (cos i dunno, it seemed cool, seems historical) but i couldn't deny that (as a begginer) i was much more accurate with three under

@danelliott4583 7 лет назад

Hi Joe - nice video again, and thanks. I too started off split finger, but morphed into 3 under. I can't really explain why, or what advantage there is but I shoot more consistently with 3 under. Maybe it's a mind thing? Maybe it's mechanics, I don't really know but hey, it works for me. I believe you're correct in what you said; find your style, stick to it, practice and you'll get there.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Dan Elliott thank you, I am grateful!

@mortenjacobsen5673 7 лет назад

Here are two cents to buy some food for thought:: split is the best otherwise Olympic archers would be using 3 under , but they dont .3under it puts uneven pressure on the hand and wris, and the string dont line up in the finger joints and if your not string walking it makes no sense using it unless your bow is tillered for the uneven use of force . the higher anchor of 3 under also means it better for shooting down on thing at closer ranges

@danielspofford3696 5 лет назад

Just started traditional archery after going compound for yrs..was hitting very high split finger so went with 3 under and am having much better accuracy but still don't want to rule out split..I love the idea of shooting instinctive and hope to develop that shooting style over time..

@edwardpockett4862 7 лет назад

I shoot 3 under and split v been shooting 5years now but stared with split finger and shot like that for 2years was pretty good but it felt a bit like shooting from the hip to me and was stuck and could not get any better, and I needed to practice so much was silly like 100 arrow every day ! so I tried 3 under And was amazed ! more consistent just could hit stuff I would never do before! instead of hopefully hitting the target to knowing I will !! love it saved my archery .

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

That is awesome! Feels good to hit stuff... builds confidence.

@stuartmccloud307 5 лет назад

3 under for me, started like that to go gap shooting and ended up instinctive. It works for me.

@alexanderson5140 7 лет назад

I am a split finger shooter and I have been using that method of draw for a while now. Ever since I have been watching Turkish bow trick shooting and horseback archery, I have adapted to the thumb draw but I only practice it using rubber bands.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Awesome! Thank you, Mayflower... I've only tried a thumb draw once, it felt "weird" to me. How was it for you?

@markstinsonvesselco.6617 7 лет назад

Great video, joe! I've always shot split finger, and I'm an instinctive shooter. Just last week I started playing around with three under. Immediately I was shooting tighter groups, I assume for two reasons, closer eye-hand coordination alignment but also I noticed with three under the cock feather touches my nose when I fully engage my back tension. I think this gives me a fourth reference point to my three point anchor which helps to lock the position and angle of my head in a more consistent and repeatable way. Unfortunately, as I continued to shoot three under the close proximity of the arrow to my eye began to distract my instinctive shooting and my groops began to unravel. Needless to say I've been going back and forth with up and down results. However, I've taken a lesson from three under and have been working on my head alignment with split finger to still achieve the cock feather reference to the tip of my nose. Still a work in progress!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Mark Stinson wow, how cool to see how you have been experimenting with these and how it has affected your process. Thank you for sharing that. Would love to hear how you are doing in a month or so... how it all comes out.

@guyinknapp 7 лет назад

I started with split it was more trad. then I grab the string three under shot a couple tired split after that felt all wrong. so the 3 under has been the way from now on. Awesome t shirt giveaway must say very exciting.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+guyinknapp thank you!

@JoshuaFritz 7 лет назад

3 Under, I feel more accurate on my release and the comfort level is much higher for me. Thanks for your videos, love watching them. My daughter and son are also using the 3 under. Keep up the good work. Genesis 27:3

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Praise God! So glad you are apart of this community, thank you for watching and contributing. God Bless you!

@hotchihuahua1546 5 лет назад

I have done both but to be consistent you really need to stick with one or the other ! Practice, Practice, Practice ! 😁

@bowman321123 7 лет назад

As usual, Joe I am looking forward to your latest video. I've always shot split finger, anchoring on my tooth. I have played with shooting 3 under but my draw seemed wrong and the bow seemed to pull unevenly. Maybe didn't give it enough time, maybe I wasn't happy with the results to bother pursuing it. My personal opinion is that as you were saying if it works, if you are hitting consistently, go with it. God Bless on your 'anniversary'. Tim

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+bowman321123 thank you, you have been a tremendous contribution on this channel. I am grateful! BTW - which tooth do you anchor on?

@bowman321123 7 лет назад

For awhile now I have been anchoring on my incisor tooth, a hard location because I realized that just at the corner of my mouth created too much variation. By the way, I wanted to mention how much I appreciate your dedicating your videos to Gods' word, there isn't enough of that going around.

@Lo-tf6qt 7 лет назад

I quite like the Split finger mainly because I feel like I have a better grip on the string and arrow , however releasing the arrow is a slight hassle with the finger above the arrow , so I might try the thumb release soon as I heard it was very effective.

@iamazlin1 7 лет назад

I was shooting split finger instinctively for years but recently switched to a 3 under fixed crawl that gives me a point on at 30yrds and its crazy consistent. I really upped my game with the switch. Point on is 30yrds and everything else is gap from there.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you!

@brianpost7801 2 года назад

I shot today for the first time ever . I bought a Sinoart recurve 58" 40 lb draw bow . 70 years old and just loved it . Shot low at 20 yards till I moved my knoking point down and now can hit a 14 by 16" target every time .it'll take awhile to buid up the left arm strengh to be able to hold the bow steady on the target . Happy being Mennonite !!!!!! Sorry , I like the three under with a tab . Tried the glove but seemed awkward to me .

@Billythebassist 7 лет назад

Split finger/split vision, just feels right for me .... I tried three under, but I would shoot accurately for a short time before losing it, and start shooting like crap. I found that when I switched back to split finger it was much easier to find my anchor point. Because, when I used three under, my anchor point ended up being my index at the corner of my mouth. And felt almost not existent compared to using split. When I shoot split finger, my anchor is middle finger to corner of my mouth and index finger to the crease of my cheek. So that's really two anchor points. Weird, pretty much opposite of your situation, and it's easier to "sight" down the arrow like you said. Thanks Joe!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Billythebassist awesome! I love how you tested it and worked out what worked for you. Thank you!

@allencreekoutdoors5896 5 лет назад

I just found your channel. I shoot split finger. My dad taught me how to shoot in the early 70’s. He was the only one around that had a bow (Bear Black Bear model). So I’ve always shot that way. I shoot instinctive and have never really tried gap shooting.

@chrisjensen1405 7 лет назад

split finger all the way! I started three under and man, split just seems to be more natural and keeps me shooting more of a instinctive style but hey, that's just me. do whatever comes natural!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Chris Jensen thank you!

@christophrogers7248 2 года назад

I switched from split to three under because of two reasons: pointer finger pinch on the nock and the physical reason that the middle of the string is 2 inches below the nock point... try bringing the bow upside down horizontal holding the bow on the string with your finger... where is the bow in level? Yes, 2 inches below the nock point...

@KrisperKenvue 7 лет назад

I shoot split fingers. Have tried three under, but it feels kind of wrong for me. I guess it's just personal preference. Congratulations for the first anniversary of your channel - may there be many more to come!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Sven Küper thank you!

@jmfa57 6 лет назад

To your point, I shoot split finger because I've ALWAYS done it that way. I'm sixty years old, and learned split finger shooting back in the 6th grade. I've been an EXTREMELY intermittent archer over the decades, buying my first decent recurve bow (45# Darton) in 1981 used at a gun show. I shot it intermittently over the years, especially when my son was in Webelos scouts years ago, but there have always been many year intervals when my bow collected dust. Last year, or maybe the year before, I got a 'wild hair" and started buying bows, some low draw weight recurves that I was hoping my wife would shoot (she hasn't) and then found an interest in longbows, especially after seeing your channel, and a channel by Mick Grewcock in England who is a novice bowyer and MASTER video smith! My current favorite is a 60# 68" OMP Sierra, which I can shoot straighter than any of my lighter weight bows including a 25# (or so) Browning. Seeing how your fingers press UP on the knock, causing downward pressure on the arrow shelf, I causing me to re-think my style, and to research 16 strand 68" AMO bowstrings... GREAT video, Joe, and if you haven't, please check Mick's page out. He maintains that he is a poor archer and only a novice bowyer; I sense traditional English understatement. In any event, God bless!

@tomneed368 5 лет назад

Split finger is how I have done it since 1968 but I have been thinking about going to 3 under for the reasons you said. GOD bless Tom

@zook4886 6 лет назад

Hi Joe, 36 years of bow hunting using split finger. Today I tried 3 under. It’s 2018 March. And I have found I have wasted 36 years using split. Three under is awesome. I used to see Americans using 3 under, and think they were stupid. I was wrong. Now I’m on fire. Regards Robert. Western Australia.

@stevenrichards9974 7 лет назад

3 under. I shot it for years compound barebow. Made the switch to trad. Tried split, three under it is!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Steven Richards wow, your the first to say you shot 3under with a compound. Very cool!

@stevenrichards9974 7 лет назад

CatholicHack's Traditional Archery my first bow was an old 1989 Pearson compound. I got it when I was 13 in 1996. Shot 3 under on that and my next 2 bows. Once I hit 18 I got rifles and stopped archery. Finally got back into bows after a decade. Never thought I'd get bored of guns, but as an Armourer my entire life is guns lol. Glad to be back into bows.

@gilstover590 7 лет назад

Great watching your videos. I have always shot three under but recently changed to split finger so I could shoot at greater distances. Thanks for all your work to make trad shooting more fun... Gil

@mnnaqs 2 года назад

Thumb release far superior thats where your modern triggers for compound bows came from

@larryreese6146 5 лет назад

I shoot 3 finger with my thumb pinched against the tip of my little finger. Middle finger locks in the corner of my mouth. Pointer finger at my cheek bone. Bend of thumb at point of my jaw. Have always shot instinctive like firing s shotgun. But consistently in anchor and length of draw, plus lots of practice has always been the key for me. Pull, anchor, pause, let everything come to s stop, release. Sometimes I even shut my eyes before the release. I get a lot more pleasure out of traditional archery than any other way. Pure hand eye coordination, simple, and the old bows, unlike modern compounds or cross bows, fit your hand like an extension of yourself.

@gerardwilliams2297 7 лет назад

I started with split finger but last year I tried 3 under and it felt so natural I will never go back.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Bill Jaglowski thank you

@jameshilliard7219 7 лет назад

I've been making bows for a few years and I use two styles ether pinch or two finger split and they work great and the for this is because that was the way I was shown to do it by a uncle who is half Cherokee he also showed me how to make the bows I shoot and Wa-do or thank you for making videos

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+James Hilliard awesome! Do you have a website? Can you post a link?

@jameshilliard7219 7 лет назад

CatholicHack's Traditional Archery no I sure don't I may have one soon tho

@RFVCXR200R 3 года назад

Hey Joe, we miss ya!

@repoman615 7 лет назад

I switched from 3 below to mediterranean release purely coz of competitions and many classes in there only allow you to shoot with split finger this is in UK.Changing release is hard and i personaly had a really hard time to do that . by the way i love the intro in this video.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you, I am grateful!

@TripleTapHK 4 года назад

I've recently gotten in to horseback archery and I've been using the Slovic draw over the thumb draw. It's a bit like the 3 finger but your index is placed along side the arrow to hold it in place where as the thumb draw the side of your index is pressing into the arrow when wrapping around your thumb. The key thing is you don't have to break your grip at all to wrap your thumb around the string when loading. My draw and release feels way better, though I'm shooting a 50# Kaya Windfighter so that probably affects my taste in draw styles.

@JaykeOW 7 лет назад

split, because well I don't really know its what i'm used to I guess. I didn't even know that three under was a thing until a year ago and I started archery in 2008!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you!

@shayden5289 7 лет назад

As much as I like 3-under, I have been forced to get properly comfortable with Split-Finger because I wear glasses. I have to have the string further from my glasses so that I don't mess with my vision, or worse break my glasses when I release. A big part of why I switched to split and even anchoring with my thumb, is because I destroyed a pair of glasses shooting 3-under when the string caught on release.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

That's interesting, I had never considered how glasses could affect the anchor. I'm grateful you shared this. Thank you.

@survivorwoodsman6017 6 лет назад

I shoot 3 finger below, because it's more easeyer for me and my arrow doesn't flip around when I pull the string. 😉 greetings from Belgium

@braikka 7 лет назад

I changed to 3 under this year, because i found that I'm more accurate with that style.

@Wingman115 7 лет назад

Great video Joe. I used to shoot split but switched to 3 under for the same reasons as you.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Wingman115 thank you, your a great shot too. I'm very grateful for what you are doing to share trad archery and for being apart of this community!

@Beeef_Supreme 7 лет назад

I'm a split finger shooter. I never had an archery lesson. At all! I'm the only person in my club who shoot trad. Split finger always felt natural to me.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Shawn Sims thank you Shawn! Would love to hear how about your club experience so far. With no lessons and shooting trad, you must stand out, no?

@Beeef_Supreme 7 лет назад

CatholicHack's Traditional Archery Well I stand out because I'm the only person there shooting a stick bow. That's for sure.

@kevinoutside1927 7 лет назад

Great vid! I prefer 3 under but I find that some bows prefer split because of their tiller. Not that the 3 under was bad on bows tillered for Mediterranean - it was just a little noisier.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you!

@chadboyer1385 7 лет назад

I switch to 3 under this year and I am a Instintive shooter and I found I can shoot more accurate because of the better sight pic.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+chad boyer thank you!

@Hercules1-v9m 5 лет назад

I have always shot split but it causes me pain on my index finger due to wider than normal nails. Even had surgery on my toes to correct them. I have recently switched to three under and can shoot pain free.

@dannysarchery8093 3 года назад

Just now getting into trad bow hunting. This vid def gave great insight on how to shoot

@jjconway8946 7 лет назад

just got into archery period. have been surfing through RU-vid trying to learn. I am using the 3 under currently and it seems to work. I need to find a new finger tab bc it's designed for 1 and 2 under and has a plastic tab to separate the fingers

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Glad you are shooting!

@carminecoppola8209 5 лет назад

Split finger for me, better for the long shot, opposite of string walking down for short hunting ranges, and I like the feel of the arrow,

@nathansmith5331 6 лет назад

Love your videos and your passion for god. I shoot instinctive and split but I do believe 3 under is more comfortable to me. I just can't get used to a different sight picture like that so I stay split.

@ilovematurewomen69 7 лет назад

I've shot split for a long time then tried under and the arrow flew straighter and more true shooting under. For more a lot more accurate shooting under.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Brian Schumacher thank you!

@nathanbuckner7410 7 лет назад

Three under brother. congrats on 1 year!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Nathan Buckner thank you!

@shaunsian4784 Год назад

I've always shot using three under it's just more comfortable to me with my compound bow

@toxophilite6804 5 лет назад

I'm 71 years young and began using archery equipment in 1960. By 1967 I was hunting pheasant on the wing and eating well. My lifelong passion have been longbow and recurve bows, and in 2019 I still shoot 2 to 4 times weekly. I use split fingers on stick bows. I have compound bows and a 150 lb. Ten Point crossbow with a scope, but if I could only choose one type, it would be a longbow or recurve bow🎯

7 лет назад

For close range the three under works better to me. I mean 20 yards or closer and this is more about aiming in the classic meaning with the body and tip of my arrow. But! For longer range 30/40/50 yards out or really long range, or for a way more instictive shooting I prefer the split finger. This is how it works better to me :) Bless ya Bro!

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you! God Bless you Too!

@robertconard6621 7 лет назад

I shot a split finger tab for 40 years until the internet exposed me to the multitude of great archers online. After experimenting..... I now shoot three under and ,for me , my accuracy has improved.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Robert Conard that's awesome, thank you!

@michaelc5386 6 лет назад

I just started shooting trad. For whatever reason my shoots like crap when I go 3 under. I started shooting split yesterday and was getting much better groupings

@MONKLJ 3 года назад

Thanks

@troy19100 3 года назад

I have been practicing all styles! I am best with split finger First time watching I like your videos thanks man

@mlynn9361 6 лет назад

ive been shooting split finger cuz thats how i was taught, didnt really know there was a different way. i've been struggling all season, i might try three under

@OBIOsim 7 лет назад

When I was originally into archery 27 years ago, I shot split finger because that's what I was taught to do. now that I'm getting back into archery, and the internet is there with a ton of archery info, I'm shooting 3 under and learning to use the string walking method.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+OBIOsim thank you!

@UACowboy 7 лет назад

I used a "primitive" style mech release I saw on the backyard bowyer. I have since switched to split finger.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+Kyle Gee thank you... I love that guy!

@UACowboy 7 лет назад

Me too. He is how i really got started in Archery

@nickeward1173 6 лет назад

I just started shooting 3 under tonight. Like the channel brother

@SN-kk1hd 6 лет назад

I usually use 3-under to give me better accuracy and consistency, but split finger allow me to stabilize my arrow so that it won't slip any direction I cant my bow

@campbellrousselle9752 7 лет назад

I shoot my compound bow split finger because of sighting issues shooting 3 under. However, I shot my longbow 3 under (an issue in competitions [ and why I won't ever compete in Longbow comps anymore]) and I shoot my recurve 3 under. The reason is this; shooting 3 under brings my 'point on' range closer (by around 7 yards) and you don't get any issues pinching your fingers on the nock and messing up your release. These two advantages and how much more relaxing it is to shoot 3 under are why I choose this style. Regards, Campbell :) Additionally I'm about to experiment with longer arrows, to bring my point on to around 30-35 yards (perfect for the competition ranges for 3D). Apparently this MAY also close up my gaps, which would mean my point would be on more targets more of the time, which should improve my accuracy a lot. However, I'll have to wait and see if this experiment pays off. Currently grouping pretty nicely with my standard length arrows.

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Great feedback, thank you, Campbell! I don't often hear from compound shooters who shoot with fingers... amazing!

@campbellrousselle9752 7 лет назад

Cheers mate :)

@jayman448 7 лет назад

i shoot three under just for the ability to barrel down the arrow better and keep gaps smaller. i also sort of shoot split vision. weather i shoot intuitive or what ever i like three under better. the downfall if three under is for long distance shooting. i believe split finger shooters remain more consistent at longer ranges

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

Thank you Jayman!

@gavinCZ 7 лет назад

it's split for me, the idea of changing scares the daylights out of me, I am just getting happy with my groups! did you change because of a consistent lack of consistency? or merely to experience another form and method of traditional shooting? Gavin

@catholichackstraditionalar305 7 лет назад

+gavinCZ hahaha... the way you worded that made me laugh, "a consistent lack of consistency." I like to switch things up, challenge myself to figure it out and find a way to make it work. I love that there isn't one way to do archery, it's part of the fun to me. On the other hand, if it's working for you, go with it!

@Stormcloakvictory 3 года назад

I started as split finger, then tried 3 under one day and immediately that felt more natural to me 😅 More comfortable on my fingers And aiming seemed easier. lining up my arrow with my eye. Been kinda practicing thumb draw a few times, I really like the release of that, but haven't figured out yet how to aim having the arrow on the right side. Mediterranean split finger looks the best tho